Do you believe in free will, or do you believe everything is

>>34423674
I think free will exists, but as a variable rather than a binary thing. In other words some people have more free will than others, for various reasons. I also believe that the more one person is able to impose their will upon the universe, the less able another person is to do so.

Your choices are affected by your personality, upbringing, genetics, and past. Your will is not your own.

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>>34423674

After studying some philosophy, I don't even know anymore.

>Are things predetermined?
Probably not? Quantum mechanics rules that out I believe. (Emphasis on believe. There are some deterministic spins on QM but that's beyond my expertise) Also classical mechanics can be non-deterministic, and so can General Relativity.

>>34423674
I feel like all of my thoughts and beliefs are just a product of what I look like as a person. If I had the same mind but in a different body the beliefs I have now wouldn't carry over, even though I'm still technically the same person, so it probably doesn't exist. I hope free will exists though I've just never been able to find a great argument for it existing.

>>34423674
Literally nothing anybody says on the topic means anything

https://www.k-state.edu/english/baker/english320/Maugham-AS.htm

who sherlock here

>>34423736
Cool. And so was your post, faggot. You contributed nothing to this thread.

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>tfw it was predetermined for you to be a loser

Reply to this post if your think free will is real.

>>34423674
If it was predetermined I would be a tranny loser life is pretty fucking cruel.

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>>34423758
Nothing is pre-determined. You're just weak and lazy.

That's what makes it hurt so bad. Your failures are your fault. So many times, you could have taken action, you could have been brave, but you never did.

Why not, anon?

>>34423674

There probably isn't. Since everything else seems deterministic, it's hard to think of a strong reason for human cognition to be different other than wishful thinking.

>>34423770
l had to post this

>>34423784
No, you dumb faggot. His personality, genetics, upbringing, and his past are entirely out of his control. All of those things factor into what choices he makes. He doesn't have much control, if any, over the decisions he makes. If he was a different person, things might've been different for him. Fuck off, Chad.

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>>34423757
so is this an angry philosophy/ liberal arts major, or an edgy teenage intellectual?

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>>34423674
i'm going to be a fence-sitter and just say it doesn't matter one way or another since it feels like we make decisions. this seems like one of those 'can't bite your own teeth' situations.

>>34423783
If it's the result of free will, it's no less cruel, but the blame can be directed somewhere more usefully specific than "life".

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I am a hardcore determinist. Either it was designed by the designer or designedby itself. Nothing can come from nothing. Things only occur based on occurrences that cannot be changed. Of course though, at least once did something come from nothing, so it may again or it may all the time in its ways. And I can't imagine the grand design that would form every brush stroke and verse and footstep in advance, but i do believe in it. My belief is that if nothing can come from nothing then it is possible that we may be nothing and so it should be that a great deal of things impossible are possible, but i assume they are only found in gaps and i have no idea how these gaps breath in on us and our action. Though i do think there is one road in all things and one destinination and everyone gets exactly what they deserve.

>>34423784
>You're just weak and lazy.
For reasons.

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I don't know much about science but from what I can tell human decision should be determined by set rules, forgetting about weird quantum stuff that probably shouldn't play a direct role.
I dont think it matters too much because at any personally appreciable level it seems like I can make choices.
I think it's kinda like how Newtonian physics are not technically correct but can still be used accurately in almost all everyday events.