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"No Uterus, No Opinion"

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/r9k/, I've seen and heard a lot of women saying "no uterus, no opinion" with regard to abortion recently...

...why are men required to pay child support if they have no say in whether or not they want to have a child and women do?

If men have no right to have any input on whether they are ready for a child, then shouldn't women be the only ones responsible for making the decision of whether or not she's able to provide for a child by herself? After all, men have no input and she's the only one with the decision whether or not to have a child.
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Dude, anti-abortion people are retarded, these fucking narcissistic women will get abortions anyways but it'll just be illegally, and the ones who don't will either fuck the kids up or put them through awful adoption rings.
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less abortions = more welfare, more criminal blacks, more mexicans

Are Republicans that retarded they want to further lose whatever chance they have at future elections?

Without some serious demographic shift America is going to go permanently Democrat very soon..
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>>34372510

Less abortions=More white babies
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>>34372510
Maybe the dumb cunts should try adoption.
Not perfect either but if you don't want/can't raise a kid, it works.

Also how about not being a fucking slag and having responsibility and taking care of a kid when you're ready.
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>>34372326
if men don't want kids they should keep it in their pants

[muffled "VIRGIN!" in the distance]
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>>34372510
do you have any experience of the real world? It's atheist white women who get abortions in 2016, not niggers they get welfare for it, not Mexicans because they're Catholic
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they say this but when the topic of circumcision comes up women like to express their shitty opinions
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>>34372326
Why would we ever fund international abortion groups? never knew it was even a thing
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>Trump reinstated the Mexico City policy, also known as the global gag rule, which was first put in place by President Ronald Reagan in 1984. It prohibits giving U.S. funding to international nongovernmental organizations that offer or advise on a wide range of family planning and reproductive health options if they include abortion - even if U.S. dollars are not specifically used for abortion-related services.

Can someone point out why I'm supposed to give a shit?

Why are you reading huffington post, OP?
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>>34372659
If feminists and shitty """news writers""" like Huff Post considered even for a second, that men get shit too, their entire rhetoric would fall apart, so they don't give a shit.
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>>34372326
Keep abortion illegal, women are retarded stupid animals that will abuse abortion instead of using it rationally.
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>>34372326
Typical HuffPo dreck. Abortions are guaranteed by the Supreme Court. Go ahead and have your abortions you stupid roastie cunts BUT DON'T MAKE THE REST OF US PAY FOR IT
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>>34372326
>No Uterus, No Opinion
No Say, No Wallet
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>>34372326
Why don't conservatives just reply with "not your body."

That's the whole argument from The Left. "IT'S NOT YOUR UTERUS! IT'S NOT YOUR BODY! YOU CAN'T LEGISLATE ON IT!"

Uhhhh, well you are lobbying for your right to destroy someone else's body and entire life, without recourse. "Not your body, so you can't legislate on it." Duh, you dumb bitch. Their own argument defeats them.
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>>34372326

Your input was when you decided to blow your load in her. You had a choice to avoid pregnancy and you decided to risk her getting knocked up and wanting to have a child. End of story.
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>tfw want to be a vet
>tfw human
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>>34372326
>My body
>My choice
>Your money
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>>34372736
>a few thousand cells is a body

Yeah it's conscious from day one too right bud.
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>>34372782
The federal government has never funded abortions, this just means that any organization that even mentions "abortion" in a report or some shit can't receive money.
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>>34372758
>Your input was when you decided to blow your load in her. You had a choice to avoid pregnancy and you decided to risk her getting knocked up and wanting to have a child. End of story.

Flawed argument-- the woman has the same choice to take the penis raw.
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>>34372589
>>34372541


Blacks comprise only 13% of the population of America but account for 37% of all abortions. Black women are five times more likely to abort than white women. 69% of pregnancies among Blacks are unintended, while that number is 54% among Hispanics and 40% of pregnancies among Whites.

You guys are fucking retarded. If you ever have kids I hope they have trisomy 21 so you have to take care of dead weight for the rest of your lives.
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>>34372854

Stop making excuses. Take responsibility for your actions and the potential consequences. Trying to blame your shit choices on other people is numale.
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Srsly. Can you fucking idiots even give a reason for abortions to NOT be illegal? I mean yeah /pol/ wants white babies but thats retarded.
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>>34372889
>Stop making excuses. Take responsibility for your actions and the potential consequences. Trying to blame your shit choices on other people is numale.

Same goes for the female. In fact, she could've been on the pill, taken plan B, worn a female condom, or made one of the DOZENS of responsible decisions she has to prevent conception that a male doesn't.
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>>34372326
Abortion is still legal they just have to pay for it now?
Why am I supposed to give money to some whore that uses abortion as a contraception?
Jesus you people are retarded.
Wouldn't you want your tax money to end up somewhere else?
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>>34372326
The solution is extremely simple, yet nobody gets it yet:

Trivial cases:

>If the woman and the man want the baby, they have the baby.
>If neither of the two want it, they abort it.
>After 3 months of pregnancy, all abortions prohibited.

Here's where it gets complicated, but there's a razonable trade-off for both men and women:

>A) If the man wants the baby but the woman doesn't, too bad for him, she can an probably will abort it.
>B) If the woman wants the baby but the man doesn't, too bad for her, she has to support it by herself.

The problem is that society wants to A) without B), which is awful on many levels.
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>>34372858
>If you ever have kids I hope they have trisomy 21 so you have to take care of dead weight for the rest of your lives.
You just know that only a virgin would come up with this kind of insult
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>>34372815
I see. So we're not allowed to have nuanced opinions about this, we're just only allowed to have binary black-white opinions that we aggressively shitpost about.

How about abortions legal in the first 7 weeks, but after that they are illegal because it clearly is not "a epic bundle of cells meme xD" anymore.
And also, if your male partner proposes his intention to abort the fetus within the first 7 weeks, the mother must receive paperwork requiring a signature that she understands her male partner's intention. If she refuses the intention, then she is fully allowed to carry the fetus to term and birth the child, however the father will sever all monetary and legal responsibility for the child. The mother will not be able to claim any child support from the man. The man can claim full severance from the child after making his intention known via legal documentation. A financial evaluation will be done and if all sources of income that the child will receive total below poverty level, then The State will possess the child and assign foster care to competent parents.

How's that for actual common sense, scientifically-based abortion policy that is fair for everyone involved?
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>>34372942

>continues to blame others like a textbook numale in response to being called out for being an irresponsible numale.

What a fucking complete and utter retard.

Go on, make another captain obvious post that fails to grasp the core point of the thread, numale
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>>34372841
*international organization
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>>34373013
So you would have a situation where a woman wants to keep her child and then has it taken away because shes poor? I see that playing over well.
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>>34372967
>Why am I supposed to give money to some whore that uses abortion as a contraception?

Contraception is a preventative. Abortion is when it's already too late. Stop posting if you can't comprehend basic English.
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>>34372971
>The problem is that society wants to A) without B), which is awful on many levels.
It's because in our society the child's rights supersede everyone else's rights. The man's rights are being violated but it is justified under law because our law heavily favors children. It is what it is but there's no easy solution. Without mandatory child support, the child gets fucked over, and the child is an innocent party that dindu nuffin, so there's really no reason he should be punished for his parents dumbfuckery.
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>>34373013
This makes so much sense; however, the feminists like the system right now too much to ever allow this. They like the idea of using their wombs as ATM machines and having the ability to cuck males into becoming their wage slaves.
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>>34372541
Which almostmeans more school shooters
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>>34373079
>Without mandatory child support, the child gets fucked over, and the child is an innocent party that dindu nuffin, so there's really no reason he should be punished for his parents dumbfuckery.

Solution: Don't have a kid if you're too poor to have a kid.
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>>34373043
>So you would have a situation where a woman wants to keep her child and then has it taken away because shes poor?
Ya. What's wrong with that?

Poor people should not breed. It should be illegal. If you choose to breed, your children will be taken from you.

Read a book called "$2.00 a day: Living on almost nothing in America." It's a book about dumb fuck single moms without GEDs who have 2+ kids. In the book, all of the families are struggling to eat and the kids go hungry most days. Still, the mother is allowed to keep those children. There isn't a single family whose problems wouldn't be resolved by relocating the children to foster care. The moms are so poor because they are irresponsible, have poor time management, and cannot take care of multiple kids while maintaining a job. The kids are starving, poor, and have 1 set of clothes, because their mom is a shit stain with no job because she has no time for a job. If you take the kids away, both the kids and the shit stain mom benefit.

There is no downside to this, only great benefits. If you don't want to deal with the sadness of putting kids in foster care then stop having kids when you are fucking poor and unable to provide for them, dumb shits.
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>>34372453
>treats you like a princess
this is the most disgusting phrase ever uttered by neckbeards
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Getting pregnant when you're a poor female is child abuse.
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>>34372685
It's so strange to me how American policies get turned on and off like light switches when the parties switch over.
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anything that punishes normie degeneracy is a-ok in my book

i dont care about unwanted children, i just hope abortions are made completely illegal so the unwanted children these scum have ruin their lives
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>>34372326

great. good job, Donald.
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>>34373206
Only the ideologically-driven, wasteful policies get turned 'on' and 'off'.
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>>34373146
Edgy as fuck anon
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WE MUST SECURE THE FUTURE OF THE WHITE RACE.
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>>34373335

Yeah but you old whores are going into the dumpster.
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>Roasties BTFO
>Roasties literally taking the streets by the millions
thanks donald. women BTFO
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>>34373335
>white
>america

lol
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>>34373274
Actually it's edgier to assert that a bunch of children and a middle age woman should be required to live a life of destitute poverty without access to medical care, dental care, basic supplies, a clean living environment, adequate nutrition, and a heated shelter to live in.

You epicly using the "edgy" meme against me in a sad attempt to ad hom. my argument and discredit me, forcing kids to suffer in extreme pain and agony for their entire lives, is ironically much edgier than what I proposed, which would simply save the children in a small amount of time and allow the mother to get ahead in life so that she may one day be able to have children she can financially support.

Keep epicly memeing though dude, I am sure someone will care about your gay shitposting one day xD
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>>34373382
>xD
Ye, how about we work on a system that doesn't force people to live in poverty. A non-idiot wouldn't be this invested in this argument, especially one that is obviously morally defective. Maybe if it was economically possible to support a child on your own this stupid argument wouldn't even be made. But damn that'd be the hard answer. Lets just send people to snatch kids. I'm also concerned by your use of the word epicly anon. You should see a doctor about that.
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>>34372971
you know this has nothing to do with what trump signed right
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>>34373507
>how about we work on a system that doesn't force people to live in poverty.
We already have one, fucking idiot faggot.
John Jay College published a well-researched study that concluded the only way to be poor your entire life in America is to have a kid before you're married, choose to not work any job and collect benefits instead, and not get a GED. If you can manage to do those 3 (T H R E E) easy fucking thing (graduate high school, don't knock up a bitch, and work ANY job literally ANY job), you will not be impoverished in America. We have that system, and still idiots can't get ahead. What system do you propose where a fat ass single mom with no GED who chooses to have 14 kids with a 16 year old drug dealer (REAL STORY IN THE "$2.00/DAY" BOOK BY SHAEFER & EDIN) can get ahead? What fucking system can do that, while not tanking immensely and breeding inefficiency, socialism, and societal collapse? What system can do that?

We live in one of the best systems in the world. Some people are still too stupid to succeed. That's just a fact. In those cases, we need to take those children away from their incompetent parents so that the children aren't forced to live a life of absolute destitution and suffering under a retarded drugged out whore of a parent. If you believe anything else then you are a fucking retard and an edgy teen.
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>>34373507
Throughout history it hasn't been financially viable for an individual to rise a child. Why should now be any different?
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>>34373081
>feminists like... the idea of using their wombs as ATM machines and having the ability to cuck males into becoming their wage slaves.

Underrated post
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>>34373649
>graduate high school
>work 40 hours at mcdonalds a week
>no kids
Guess what in my state you would make $15,800/yr. If you think anyone making that kind of money isn't poor you are fucking idiot who has never lived in the real world or without mom&dads funding.
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>>34373507
..Why do you get to decide arbitrarily the amount of wealth a person should or should not possess in our society? Who the fuck made you Supreme Dictator GodKing of The Nation?

Why would you settle for just "a single person should be able to raise kids"? That's a million-dollar investment?

Why don't we say instead that "a single person should be able to afford a yacht"? Yes? That's a society we all want to live in, right? So why don't we design THAT system?

The reason is practicality, you fucking Liberal. This is what all of you fucking retards on The Left don't understand. You're 100% idealism and 0% realism. The simple fact is that WE CAN'T DESIGN A SYSTEM WHERE DUMB FUCKING SINGLE MOMS WITH NO G.E.D. CAN RAISE 5 KIDS ON THEIR OWN. That's literally a fucking five-million-dollar investment we are trying to support with a person who can't even reliably hold a fucking MINIMUM WAGE JOB. It's not fucking possible to design that goddamn system you nincompoop; that system doesn't exist. Not in reality, not even in ideal magic dream world. The point is we have fucking kids with shitty parents who don't eat every day, and those kids need to be put in houses where they can eat every day. that's the simple fucking fact. your dumb liberal brain can twist things any way it wants, but at the end of the day there are starving fucking kids and what the fuck are you going to do about it?
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>>34373792
>DURR I ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE

>DURR WHAT IS CLIMBING THE LADDER, SURELY IT IS A FAIRY UNICORN CONCEPT THAT DOESN'T EXIST

HoLy FuCk, YoU aRE fUkciNg DumB, MyMaN

You work the mcdonalds job to get job experience, then you "climb the ladder." I'm told you shitty stupid Americunts aren't even taught this concept in high school, that you aren't even aware that this concept exists, because your shitty fucking high schools are more concerned with their "kids who graduated from here and went to college" statistic than they are concerned with teaching you any real life skills. But fuck, if I don't hold you to a basic standard of intelligence then where will we be? You're fucking dumb, man. You can only excuse your ignorance via high school brainwashing for so long.
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>>34373792
>in my state you would make $15,800/yr.
That's why you work a second job or start a side business. If you're not a lazy fuck/retard, then you're not going to be poor. End of story.
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>>34373801
Now youre exaggerating the initial situation presented beyond graduated and employed with enough money to be slightly economically impactful to being in the yacht club, don't goal post move me anon.

You end up stating I want kids to starve, yet you want them to only be able to afford basic nutrition at the best. The problem with your dumbass is that you can't conceive of a world where there is enough for all. Instead you want to relegate a portion of the population to "good enough". Instead you fucking dolts think that the U.S is scraping by because of welfare queens. No the problem is we waste money like idiots on frivolous things like MUH WALL.
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>>34372326

>"No Uterus, No Opinion"

Your body, your choice, your responsibility
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>>34373860
>>34373887
But anons he claimed that you could just have one job and literally any job. I'm simply making the argument as presented. So, nah.
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>>34372453
>They will get abortions anyway

Yes, and they should be put in prison for murder
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>>34373924
>welfare queens
I don't know how much you've read, but this is actually a serious problem with uneducated black females. They literally use their wombs as an ATM machine.
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I'm indifferent.

You have been muted for 2 seconds, because your comment was not original fuck you.
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>>34373977
lol stay mad cunt
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Feminazi got BTFO ITT
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>>34374001
>read
I have, and I've lived where this supposedly happens. You are drinking the conservative kool-aid nigger
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>>34373953
But that's true. Even if you keep just that one job, do you think your employer could get away with not promoting you after 5 years of quality service where you show up to work on time every day and do what you're supposed to without causing dumb problems? At mcdonalds especially you'll be promoted quickly because it's rare for young people to stay at that job seriously for a long time.
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Make women,women again

trump is trying to bring us back to the golden age
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>>34373953
WoW nIcE BaCkpEdAliNG
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>>34373924
>The problem with your dumbass is that you can't conceive of a world where there is enough for all.
Because I told you that's not possible. No matter what system you design, there is always going to be a dumb single mom with a drug habit and no GED who decides to have unsafe sex which results in 5 children.

you're still dumb enough to think you can "design a system" where all those 5 children and live so happily :) with their dumb mom and have no financial problems ever:) and they have a good chance to become successful :)

that's not realistic you dumb fucking fag. no system you design can do that. You're creeping ever-closer to socialism when you suggest that it's possible, and if you really think that then why don't you go live in fucking Venezuela where they are shooting stray dogs on the streets to feed their families because food shortages are so bad
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>>34374096
Yes I do, I worked in a grocery store from highschool until I graduated college. I saw many many people working there for 20 years only to be a fucking wage slave. And admittedly, these people were much better employees than me. You say that like the employees can do shit about not getting promoted. There are only so many management jobs anon
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>>34374043
I live in Detroit, and what anon described is true. There are women here that literally make their entire incomes off of multiple men paying them child support.
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>>34374188
>You say that like the employees can do shit about not getting promoted.
Most people are pretty dumb and don't advocate for themselves. You can directly threaten your employer in a number of real ways, but most people don't understand this.

If you're complacent and unambitious then there isn't a "system" that is going to behoove you apart from absolute Communism. It's best not to talk about the dredges of humanity because they simply don't matter; no matter what economic system you live under, they will always fail. Therefore, they shouldn't be used to prove or disprove the merits of said systems.
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>>34372453
Literally this

So women don't get abortions legally now, what changes? A lot of kids are born now into shitty circumstances because some people felt the need to appeal to retarded bible belt inbreds who have 4 children and live in trailers in poverty with them. Nice
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>>34374174
So you admit there is economic inequality but you won't at least engage in discussion about an economic system that could alleviate that? The problem is you just shout MUH SOCIALISM about any sort of compromise. The fact is we live in a society where we eat way more calories, consume more resources, and generally take up more space than almost every other society on the planet. You failed to realize excess is a real issue. Invoking venezuela is also dumb shit because that country was fucked from the start. They aren't the largest economy wasting billions of dollars on making sure the top earners keep the wealth in the country because somehow that creates jobs for everyone. Idiots like you will work and work until your jobs are replaced by a robot. Because guess what is realistic faggot? Automation doing most jobs for cheaper in the near future.
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>the right of a woman to her reproductive autonomy must come at the expense of someone else's right to live
>somehow even if that other person is a woman
>come on it's [current year]
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>>34374341
What's your epic system that can Save Us All (tm) and how do we realistically implement it?
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>>34374342
this is pretty much how all real life shitposting of abortion rights activists should be responded to
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>>34374220
Again, I have lived in the ghetto and taught at one of the worst schools. Your anecdotal evidence is about as factual as mine honestly.

>>34374299
I would love for you to tell me what you can do. Try working a wage job in your life. When you don't get promoted what can you do? Complain to the boss? Yeah that seems like a good strategy.
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>"no uterus, no opinion"

Textbook ad hominem fallacy.
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>>34372510
This. after rowe v wade the crime rate dropped. about 17- 18 years later in fact.
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>>34374378
I never claimed to know, I only claim to know what hasn't worked. Reagonomics failed you. The excess of the 20s didn't starve off the depression. The highs of the early 00s sure made 08 fun. But you know what worked? The New Deal sure did. I think bailing out the auto industry might have been a good move too, but we'll see on that one.
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>>34374446
>When you don't get promoted what can you do? Complain to the boss?
Pose the real threat that you are now experienced in your job, have people skills and communication skills as well as time management skills and work experience, and that you can find many other jobs with this type of resume. If he doesn't give you a raise, you will consider other employment options.

It really isn't hard, and it is the truth.
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Women should have their tongues cut out and they should be whipped when they fail to follow a man's commands.
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>>34374499
>The New Deal sure did
Is this a fucking literal joke?
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>>34372326
Men do have input. They make the decision to go IN a woman's pussy to PUT his penis and semen. Men don't want no baby, they don't need to PUT IN their penis. PUT IN. PUTIN. Trump is a Putin puppet I just figured it out
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>>34374549
So in my town we had three grocery stores. You bust your ass at one for ten years and don't get a promotion so you bounce. Guess what, you'll be hired at one of those other two. The problem is they have had the same managers for ten plus years and you have to work another five to even be considered for a promotion there. What power do you have now?
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>bans lobbying of abortion / birth control activists in foreign countries
>aka third world islamic shitholes where abortion isn't legal and there are no white people
>promoting blacks, hispanics, mudslimes to breed and have children
>letting abortion slide in the USA and Europe

he's literally killing the white race
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>>34374578
Quality argument anon
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>>34372326
>"no uterus, no opinion"
>tfw trannies don't get to have an opinion
fuck cissies
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>>34374602
>YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO STAY IN YOUR HOME TOWN FOR YOUR ENTIRE LIFE!!! IT'S A REQUIREMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok kid.
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>>34374641
OK so it is a joke. Thanks for letting me know.
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>>34374674
You can afford to move when you are working that kind of job? Okay. Thats reasonable I guess.
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>>34374585
>men have condoms
>women have: the pill, the shot, the implant, the morning after pill, abortions
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Men who want to duck out of paying child support are avoiding the responsibility of getting a girl pregnant. Don't want a kid? Wrap it before you tap it, even if the woman uses birth control, or just abstain from having sex.

It takes two people to make a child. If you unintentionally knock a girl up, it's both of your faults. Plain and simple.
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>>34374746
see: >>34374741
Women have far more options than men do. Women have all these options, and still stick men with the bill.
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>>34374746
>It takes two people to make a child
and only the man has to pay for it
and he still can't have more than 50% custody on the kid
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>>34374727
Yeah you really can. They made these cool inventions called apartments.

Look man we all know you're just mad that you can't work 36 hours a week at your local grocer while smoking a pack a day and stopping at the bar after every day of work while affording a nice car and high quality health insurance, but the rest of us who make good life decisions aren't in financial pain.
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>>34374824
If the father gets full custody, the woman absolutely has to pay child support. Believe it or not, it's possible for a man to get full custody.

>>34374799
Men also have the choice of abstinence. They can get vasectomies too, and different types of male birth control are currently in the testing phase. Accidents happen, but that was the chance you took when you decided to have sex. That is what sex is designed for: procreating.
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if i was a woman and i wasn't allowed to get an abortion i would probably just drink A LOT and generally just be a slob and do shit that doctors say i shouldn't. if baby actually makes it out put it up for adoption and be done with it. have fun taking care of a retarded baby. if its rip, oh well i get my desired outcome albeit a bit late. also if by some reason i am not allowed to put it up for adoption i'd just neet it up and have the govn. or the dad fork over cash (assuming he wanted it). i wouldn't even bother looking for an orbiter to support me.

this probably isnt a good idea for the general population but i am really fucking petty.
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>>34372510
Get rid of the welfare state and there will be more incentive to have children when you are capable of doing so.

No welfare state = less abortions
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>>34372326
I wholly support the woman's right to choose, but you also make a good point, and perhaps men shouldn't have to pay child support when they didn't want to keep the child.
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>>34375024
>If the father gets full custody, the woman absolutely has to pay child support. Believe it or not, it's possible for a man to get full custody.
and thats my point. court favors women for a minimum 50% custody so they can have the father pay child support. the only women who would give up complete custody of a child would be the ones that have a record to cause some sort of endangerment to the kid, otherwise good luck getting a woman to pass up on giving up the kid AND paying child support
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men do not have to pay child support if they give up all parental rights
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>>34373063
That was his point. Women that use abortion instead of using contraceptives.
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>>34372326
Abortion is the tool of the Illuminati
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>>34372326
if men and women are equal they each get half of the choice
if they are not, checkmate feminism
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>>34372326
end sex culture
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>>34372510
Protip: conservatards are just as hypocritical and inconsistent as libshits, just on different issues.
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Isn't he Huffington Post editorial staff like all women?
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>>34377869
They're all white women, iirc.
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>>34376672
This. Get sex out of politics, TV, movies, everything. There's too much of it all the time.
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>>34373079
>It's because in our society the child's rights supersede everyone else's rights.
Except of course when he's in the womb
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>This report just in, from HuffingPaint!

Bullshit. Show me what it is he signed and the details. I might give a minuscule fuck then but until we get the whole story HuffPaint is just another fake news site.
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>my body!
>my choice!
Fair enough
>your tax dollars!
No
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>>34372326
you guys are fucking retarded

he signed a bill to stop finding pro-abortion propaganda campaigns outside the US. He didn't ban abortion
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>>34372326
>"no uterus, no opinion"
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>>34372510
agreed, but alll non white babies should be automatically aborted anyway
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>>34374746
But muh mangibs
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>>34378165
>I don't want to pay taxes, but I want to pay more taxes
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>>34375081
This is exactly what I did but yeah, I will die soon
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>>34378287

Compromise - eliminate single mother government handouts and use that money on abortions instead
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>>34378346
That's the point but you can't force abortions on people below a certain poverty level.

You can't sterilize people either. You can try doing it secretly, but they'll catch on, and you won't get your good goy points.
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not that it has to do with the article, but it should be simple

If the woman wants to keep it, but the man doesn't, he signs something that frees him from paying child support

If man wants it and woman doesn't, too bad
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>>34378403

It would be a great idea to offer poor people a one-time payment of $10K to get sterilized. Decrease the payout if they have already had kids.
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>>34372510
wow from what you say it sounds like maybe it's almost as if the republicans are not against welfare, but the democrats are. Even if it means murdering children which the republicans are against but not the democrats.
omg it's almost like the democrats are greedy and murderous but the republicans are not. HOW CAN THIS MAKE ANY SENSE?
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>>34378427
>If man wants it and woman doesn't, too bad

Ree Trump will strap my state issued waifu to the birthing sarcophagus and there's nothing you can do about it, cry more liberals
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>>34378441
>more taxes
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>>34372326
honestly they should remove both abortions and child support. maybe women will think twice before cheating on us. also child support has destroyed the black community because women would rather depend on the government then on the father. their whole community is full of fucking single mothers who are creating more criminals. they have no good father figure and they go and shit all over society.
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>>34378476

Yeah but in the long run less poor people is better for all of us, especially since the world needs less and less unskilled labor as time passes.
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>>34372782
women are fucking hypocrites they say they are strong and independent but still want child support.
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>>34378504
The israeli economists seem to think importing litters of immigrants will pay off in the long run, hmm.
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>>34378533
abortion is the opposite of child support?
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>>34378542

(((Economists)))
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>>34378450
Republicans aren't pro welfare, they are pro embezzling.
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>>34374495
Congratulations on reading Freakonomics for your 8th grade reading assignment. Come back when you actually learn that the author admitted he fucked up that portion of the book.
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Arguing about abortion looks bad on you, R9K. Like 8th-graders-doing-a-debate bad. Stick to frogposting.
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