is it morally wrong for a 22 year old to have sex with a 17 year old?

Only if you have no morals.

>>34348069
>is it morally wrong for a 22 year old to have sex with a 17 year old?
Only if you're a bitter used up roastie.

No. Literally nothing, despite what normies might try to tell you

>>34348069
No, not one bit. Do it and enjoy it.

In all honesty, it's a stupid thing to do because you're putting your entire life in the hands of a 17 year old girl.

If she gets bored/pissed/whatever emotion that chemical cocktail is cooking in her brain enough at you and she tells one person who cares it's off to PoundTown for 10 years for you and a life where everybody will know you're a pedofile by googling your name

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>>34348069
Yes because you are destroying something pure with your jaded soul.

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Hell no. Don't fall for the normie memes it's extremely right and proper for men in their 20's to lust after teenage girls.

>>34348069
>Having morals
That's YOUR problem, besides the legal age of consent is 16, and go watch any teen porn hub video and theirs literally preteens fucking old dudes and it's not consider child porn besides they're "teens" not children, so stop giving a fuck.

>>34348069
noper

comento nonoriginalio

>>34348069
>Thousands of year of civilization men are having sex with mid to late een girls.
>Less than 100 years it suddenly outright banned and becomes immoral.
Someone explain.

>>34348136
the age of consent is 16 in my country

>>34348136
>In all honesty, it's a stupid thing to do because you're putting your entire life in the hands of a 17 year old girl.

16 years is the age of consent in my country with "close-in-age exception", which is how it should be desu.

I used the close-in-age clause when I was 18 with a 15 year old after she consented and it was glorious because I wasn't techincally breaking the law unless she changed her mind after and said I raped her. She was a total sloot though and kept texting me after but I stopped talking to her because I got spooked lol.

>>34348069
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent
Is she's legal, consenting and you're not a rapist then no

>>34348087
>>34348146
Found the bitter roasties.

You hypocritical cunts were getting steady dick from older men when you were 17 "because boys my age are too duuuuuuuuuumb" now shut the fuck up

Half your age plus 7

22/2=11
11+7=18

yes
its wrong

>>34348069
morally wrong? no (assuming both parties consent and aren't being taken advantage of)

legally wrong? yes
bear in mind the ramifications of the law and what happens to people who break it when thinking about this entirely hypothetical scenario

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>>34348695

>he doesnt live in Europe where you can have sex with 16yo girls

>>34348069
don't do that, robotos. she has so much at her side to fuck you greatly. you can expect rape charges.

>>34348652
Naw that's dumb, so a 50 year old can't morally have sex with a 31 year old? FOH, that only applies before a certain age.

Wait a year you faggot

Better safe than statutory

>>34348734

sure a 50 year old can. its the half + 7 rule, thats it

>>34348760
Half 50 = 25+7 = 32
Therefore by your logic a 50 year old having sex with a 31 year old is immoral....

>>34348709

in germany it's 14 iirc

>>34348652
This is the dumbest shit

>12 yo
>12/2=6
>6+7=13
>12 year olds can only fuck 13 year olds and older

No. Next question blox

>>34348069
absolutely nothing is wrong with it why the fuck would you even ask lol

>>34348729
>>34348753
see >>34348179

bix nood nigga

>>34348146
could be said for a girl at any age and I was pretty jaded at 17

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>>34348828

this allows 12 yo boys to fuck girls starting to have nice tittitititititiies

>>34348069
no unless it's illegal

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>>34348087
in what world are 17 year olds too psychologically immature to give consent? stop applying your dumb American logic, it isn't welcome here.

>>34348171
>the legal age of consent is 16
where?

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If the prophet Muhamad fucked Aisha (8yo), then why couldn't OP? Aren't we supposed to follow his hadits? Salam.

is it morally wrong for a 16 year old to have sex with a 14 year old?

>>34349110
only if the girl is a virgin

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>>34348652
>40 year old men having sex with 26 year old is same thing as 22 year old sexing 17 year old

who the fuck came up with this retarded ass rule?

>>34348647
??
My husband is younger than me.

>>34349110
16/2=8
8+7=15

Yes, it is wrong

>>34348136
>>34348179
>>34348572

I fucking hate living in America. our consent laws are garbage tier.

>>34349024

You can only follow the hadiths if you do jihad like muhamad.

Then yes, fucking women young is a necessity for forming tribal alliances.

>>34349167
>im a little faggot who gets told whats right and whats wrong

>>34349024
This, 8 year old should be the minimum.

Salaam Alaikum, my brother!

>>34348709
>He doesn't live in America where he is actually free

I pity you, you poor Eurocuck bastard

I was in your boat op. I decided it was probably a bad idea to pursue any sort of anything with her. Its a legally grey area and everyone will also think you are creepy.

Im not saying its morally wrong it just probably isnt worth it in the long run.

>>34349308
/thread

you don't want to have to put up with teenage girls anon. I just got out of highschool, and I can tell you they are annoying as all hell.

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Not necessarily, but people will ridicule and think poorly of you if you can only score a minor, and rightly so. If you've ever tried holding a conversation with a teenager you'll find that they're pretty much still mentally children. If you're comfortable with pillow-talk about high school drama, YA novels and boy bands, be my guest.

Also, almost all teenagers are sex addicts. If you can't hook up with someone in your age group so you have to seek out underage girls for an easy lay, I feel sorry for you. They won't understand that you're a beta because they still assume that adults have authority, and they'll be satisfied knowing that they're sleeping with an "older guy" whether you're a loser or not. Are you satisfied with someone "respecting you" because they don't know any better?

Think of all the weird guys who have graduated high school but still screw around with high schoolers. That's what you look like. Plus, her parents will eventually find out and press charges.

>>34348177
Christianity is a cancer.

>>34349191
Does playing Civ count?

>>34349525
Christians used to marry young girls all the time. they only stopped very recently.

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>Morally
no

But people will still look down on you for it.

>>34348146

You might be breaking consent law, other than that it's fine. Moralfags kys.

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>>34349487
this. fucking high schoolers is too easy. it's the sexual equivalent of going back to the first level in an RPG after you've gained all sorts of OP abilities, and 1 hit KOing all the weak level 1 enemies; or like challenging a bunch of middle schoolers to a boxing match. it's poor sportsmanship.

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>>34348614

>legality being necessary for something to be moral

>>34349487
p much this. high school girls will automatically think you're cool just because you can grow facial hair. a real challenge would be dating a 30+ woman.

>thinking people looking up or down on you matters

Kill yourself you lemming.

>>34348069
In my state it is legal for 14 yo olds to fuck 18 yo's so I'd imagine it is alright

>>34349862
>wanting pussy so bad that you're willing to damage your reputation to get it
>thinking this won't drive women worth having relationships with further away from you

>>34349487
op never mentioned dating, just fucking
nobody has to know
normie opinions are poorly informed and often parroted from their retarded normal friends
tripfaggots are cancer and need to die

>>34349003
The usa of course.

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>>34350128
>nobody has to know

If you think a 17 year old girl isn't going to run off and brag to all of her normie classmates about getting laid I've got bad news for you. High school girls have no inhibitions and will freely and unashamedly talk about every aspect of their lives to their friends.

Word will get around and people in her high school will tell her how creepy it is. They will spread rumors about her being a slut for opening her legs to an adult, and you'll have to hear her cry about how mean everyone is and how everyone hates her now because she'll value what her peers think of her. She might think that she's been a victim of statutory rape, and either way she'll feel so guilty and misguided that she'll go to her parents or guidance counselors about it. If you're lucky, Daddy won't show up to your house with a baseball bat or press charges.

Is this really what you want?

>"Don't tell anyone, though."

This is the number one way to ensure she tells literally everyone.

>>34348069 It's fine if it's legal and consensual. It's not that big of a gap.

>>34348179
Then, literally, who cares?

What the fuck is this shit?

OP, don't listen to all this faggots.
17 is still prime pussy. Women peak at 16

Just go for it. None of this legal bullshit matters. We are all gonna fucking die in the end anyways.

>>34350588
always dip your dick in another city, never shit where you eat, obviously. if your heart is set on fucking a 17 year old, meet one at a club somewhere far away from where you live

>>34349269
>Can't fuck 16 year olds
>free

>>34350823
>women peak at 16

Alright, I get that I'm posting incessantly at this point, but seriously? Most sixteen year olds girls are dumpy and flat-chested, and a few of them haven't even started puberty proper yet. At least lie more reasonably and shoot for eighteen.

Does anyone actually believe this? Or are they just interested in the idea of trying to mold a young girl into a semen demon? That's creepy, guy.

>>34350966

Why would you bother jumping through all of these hoops to make this happen in the first place? For fuck's sake, be reasonable and grow up. It's not about morality. It's about being sensible. The baseball bat will still find you.

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>>34350823
>We are all gonna fucking die in the end anyways.

Damn... that's so deep...

You are mentally a child, pretty much what >>34349487 was getting at.

>>34351025
>he has never seen a 13 year old with Double D's

They're everywhere

>>34348069
I don't think so, OP

>tfw 21 and hitting on the legal 16 year olds at my job
>they actually """like""" me because I can theoretically purchase them alcohol
>also adult BWC attracts these whores

>>34348652
Fucking normalfag moron, the rule is half + 3 but only if that figure is greater than 13, if lower it means all pussy is game

>>34348069
My first ever gf was 22 and i was 17 when i moved in with her.

So....i dont know what to tell you, we manipulated each other pretty heavily.

>>34351025
>>34351123

LEL. You're a fucking normie who lives in burgerland is what you are.

You will never know the feeling of giving a 16 year old multiple orgasms.

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>>34351319
>LEL

You are mentally a child [2]

Seeing as how I had sex with my boyfriend when we were 18 and 23, I could hardly criticize a 17 and 22 year old.

>>34348177
The short answer is feminism. See>>34348647

Age of consent laws work in women's favor since most of them age like milk.

They spend their early-mid twenties fucking older men and rejecting men their own age and then when they're in their late twenties or early thirties they shame men in their age group for dating younger women.

>>34351433
shut up, fucking whore. if only you had sex with a LOADED GUN instead.

>>34351187
I've seen them. I'd just have a hard time getting a stiffy knowing that the girl was that young. Even if I could get past my personal qualms with having sex with underage girls, God forgive me for even implying I could, I'd still go soft as soon as she opened her mouth.

She's a child. I'm almost 21 now and I could never sleep with someone under 18. They're children. It's not to say that they're not "sexually mature," but they're children and they think like children and they like children stuff like Zayn Malik and the Hunger Games. Can you imagine doing a teenager and having her insist on playing Justin Bieber or Joe Jonas like that's legitimate booty music? Or hear her go on and on about how this or that celebrity is her dream man?

Plus, she'll likely fall in love with you the way that only teenagers can, and get all obsessed with you or some nonsense. God forbid you take her virginity. She'll glue herself onto you like a parasite. She probably won't have a job so she'll want to go on dates and have you blow all of your money on her.

>>34351319

No, I won't, and I never will, because I don't fuck children. They're impressionable and they deserve better than a greasy manlet wage-slave. They deserve to be kids and have their teenage romance and have awkward teenage sex with their classmates and get their heart broken by someone their own age. I would never rob them of that, because I never got to have it. At least an adult will have some idea of what kind of disappointment she's getting into.

It's manipulative and nasty. I'm inherently smarter than a teenager. I know how to take advantage of one because I was one once and I know exactly what they want. It would make me sick to my stomach to play one just to have sex with her. Getting with a girl my own age would give me the real mating-dance hunt that I crave, and the sex would be so, so much more satisfying because it's not an easy win.

Besides, I don't have sex outside of committed relationships.

>>34351460
clear virgin is clear

>>34351473
a virgin? on r9k? what a fucking surprise you DUMB FUCKING CUNT

>>34351501
>DUMB FUCKING CUNT
>is a virgin

self-awareness is a virtue

>>34351460
sounds like a fun time for everyone involved!

>>34351536
what are you even trying to imply here? did you read your post before you submitted it ?

>>34351468
>They're impressionable and they deserve better than a greasy manlet wage-slave.

So, you couldn't attract a teenager to begin with? There's your problem.

>>34351572
how the fuck did you get that from his point

>>34349186
31 out of 50 states have 16 year age of consent. Move out of your cuck state, my friend. Not like it would matter to you either way.

>>34351564
i see reading comprehension isn't your forte either

You people have never been around thirsty teenagers before?

Ever hear of casual sex?
Never ask for age. Never tell your age. Really it's that easy.

>>34351683
whatever point you were trying to make is too convoluted for me to see, are you trying to imply being a virgin = being a dumb cunt? you've really lost me

>>34348069

hmmmmmmmmmm

i think you're really pushing it but it can work if you're clearly a good match for each other

>>34348069
That's iffy, if you're in a country where the law allows it go for it, if not then you're immoral by default for not following the law
if both parties consent with it i don't see any problem with that, your age gap isn't that big

I found the love of my life on IRC when he was 15. We've known eachother for 3 years but have only dated for 2, after he turned 16. He's 18 now but I used to get shit for dating but I would have gotten shit anyways because gays aren't tolerated well here. Jokes on them, he wants to be a girl (and still keep his 8" dick working to use on me).

If it's legal, carry on with the sex. If not, be careful not to get caught. Always wrap your dick. I made my partner wrap his for the first few dates where he fucked me.

>>34351572

No, dumbshit, I'd have every chance of attracting a teenager. That's the point. It's literally that easy. All I'd have to do is set up a Tinder profile and scope out the "eighteen year olds" until I get one to break and own up to being underage. That's fine, I understand. You're very mature for your age. You can talk to me about anything. Tell me about your classes. Tell me about your friends. Are you looking into college? What college do you want to go to?

I'd brag about my job, promise her everything she ever wanted, buy her weed and alcohol. I'd groom her with this and that. Oh, you want to go on a date? Let me take you to Starbucks after school, I'll pick you up. Let me take you to a movie. I can pay for everything. Oh, do you want to go out to eat tonight? I know this cute indie coffee shop, good food and better coffee. You like this show? I've never seen it before, let's watch it together. Let's Netflix and chill and I'll order a pizza. I like this kind of music too! We have so much in common!

Then I drop my tragic backstory. Teenagers LOVE the reserved, sensitive man who talks about getting his heart broken. They love lovey-dovey guys. They want to fix you and be your everything. They want to be different. You're not like other girls. You're so pretty. I like your make up. You don't have to dress up for me.

Given time it would veer into sex, and I'd drop all the dirty talk that they eat up. I want to make sure I do it with someone I really, really like. I'd lie about my dick size and all of the sexual experiences I've had. We can do those kinds of things whenever you're ready.

I get to her house. Boom, we're cuddling a little. She's nervous and I call her adorable. I tell her we'll take it slow and it can be all about her. Are you sure? I go down on her and make her cum. Then I pound her until she sees stars. Then I tell her I love her, but really I'm lying.

Because I'm scum. Because people who do this are scum.

Fuck off, pedophile.

It's WRONG and sick! Only a fucking pedophile creeper would do such a thing. All sick toddler-fuckers should be castrated and then killed by torture, but even that is a better fate than those disgusting pedophile sub-humans deserve.

>>34351828

Wow, you are one creepy dude, to be honest.
Your sociopathic tendencies are showing.
Sucks to be an ugly, huh? You'd have to do all that just to get prime pussy.

>be 19 who is dating teenagers
>get called a pedo
Jokes on you.

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>>34351978
Ad-homo-nym
You attempted to sound like your opposition and ended up looking like a complete tool
stop being a faggit

>>34351278
kek

14 88

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>>34348069
If you go into it doing what >>34351828 describes, it's absolutely wrong no matter what the age.

Now if you're honest and up front about what you want and make it clear its just sex or fooling around and she agrees I don't see the problem. She may be a teenager but surely she can understand such conversations and make her own decisions.

Of course you'll have to make your own judgements as to if she's the kind of person you can do that with in the first place. Be careful though as some girls will feign ignorance of what you meant to appear innocent later and rush to a white knight orbiter in your friend group to defend her in the event things go south. You've been warned.

>>34351828
>I'd have every chance of attracting a teenager
>That's the point. It's literally that easy
>proceeds to write a pedo modus operandi

Bro, I don't even know what to say.

>>34351995

This is clearly bait given that you know virtually nothing about me outside of what I've posted on a Chinese cartoon imageboard, but be sure to follow up a few years from now when you're 25 and still fucking teenagers because it's the only pussy you can pull yourself together to get. I'll certainly be here.

do whatever your heart desires, you cuck

>>34348069
22yo female and 17yo male, it's fine no one would care

22yo male and 17yo female, you're a pedophile rapist who should burn in hell so you better prepare for the fbi to come kicking your door down in 3, 2, 1...

>>34352148
Believe it or not, this is the first time I've ever had the displeasure of even considering what it would take. If it counts, I'm genuinely disgusted that it's so simple that it took me nearly under a minute to map it out.

But hey, congrats, you successfully triggered my autism. Have fun with the easy, empty lays and the fact that you're likely going to permanently fuck up a future adult. Hope it's worth it. Jail doesn't take well to child molestors.

>>34352176
>implying I don't plan to get married at 22 or 21.

Reason why I'm doing my best to enjoy what's left of my teenage years.

>>34352357
>19
>plan to marry at 21
>deciding who you're going to spend the rest of your life with in less than two years

God, this is why I hate teenagers.

one of my friends is currently doing this and i didnt see a problem with it at all, but my ultra liberal friends were absolutely disgusted by it which was confusing to me. then when I asked them what was so wrong with it, all they could come up with was that "it was bad for their image as friends to be seen with a 'pedophile'"

so basically, they're narcissists, and I still don't think there's anything wrong with it.

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>>34352357
>he thinks he's going to get married

How naive are you?

>>34351278
Gary p is that you?

Gjckf k

>>34352406
Worked well for many generations before us. Now that people are waiting more and more, divorce rates grow. The hardship and strong love of youth is what binds couples for life.

>>34352498
>hardship and strong love of youth is what binds couples for life

This must be a joke

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>>34352498
You really think someone would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?

How the hell is this unoriginal?

>>34352316
I think there's a bit of projecting going on here. 17 and 22 aren't that far apart. They're still in almost comparable life stages for one, and OP might be a good guy for all you know.(Probably not if he's posting here though.) As young as the girl might seem to be she's still capable of thinking for herself. To remove all agency from what you perceive as a would be victim is telling in itself. Have you considered the fact that even though you preach the opposite on here that you might actually be worse than OP given the opportunity? I mean you immediately jump to manipulation and deception as the outcome. Maybe that's just societal conditioning though.

your definition of pedophile is also a little off friend. That age range is between 11-14. What OP would be doing is statutory rape at best depending where he lives or she's from.

>>34352406
>2 years is not enough to know a person well

You sound like the kind of guy who will die a miserable old man. Don't be that guy.

>>34352478
I maybe naive but I know it's gonna happen. I don't live in the same backwards society as you. I swear to god, Americans are becoming more and more pessimistic.

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>>34351782
>you're immoral by default for not following the law
>implying

>>34352638
Sure, I guess I can agree with some of the things you've mentioned here (beyond the 5 year age gap, which is certainly unhealthy), but for reference, this is how painful talking to a 19 year-old is:

>>34352498
>>34352357
>>34352685

I'm not even that much older than him.

It's morally wrong in some states
It's not morally wrong in others

>>34348828
>>34349127
The rule doesn't include underages. You can't compare it like that.

>31 y.o manager at McJob has been flirting with me recently
>I'm only 20
What's her endgame exactly?

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>>34352685

Not sure where you live but I can just imagine your so called wife fucking your neighbor while you work with all the other slaves

>>34352316
>you're likely going to permanently fuck up a future adult
bruh do you have any idea how many teenagers get fucked by dudes in their early 20s? like if you think it's morally wrong i can understand that, but no one is getting severely hurt by this

>>34349269

>he thinks his 3rd world, military-industrial prison complex dictatorship with its patriot act is free

It's honestly shameful that an entire nation of adults think like you.

>>34352638
i obviously am a good guy, if i wasnt a good guy i would have already fucked the girl without considering the morality of the situation

considering just waiting 3 months till she's 18 desu and then any moral issues are nullified

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>>34352725
I don't think the age gap is really the issue in itself and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think what you're trying to say is the mentality/maturity of the two people in question is whats really on the table here.

Telling OP it's wrong because he's going to rape her and destroy her life without knowing either of them really isn't a fair judgement. The best we can do is give advice, outline what can go wrong and hope OP makes an informed decision with her feels in question and not his dick.

I mean if he's going to do it then he's going to do it regardless of how guilty or bad we make him feel about it. There's a reason he's asking in the first place.

>>34352725

>muh moral and intellectual ascendancy

not his lawyer, but where the hell do you think you are, nigger? you're no better than him

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>>34352862
You would've gotten more reasonable advice on /adv/ friendo but it's ok.

>waiting 3 months
are you just going to stay friends with her during that time and hope she wants to fug? or are you going to date/dump her afterwards?

I'd honestly look for another girl in the meantime or something instead of waiting around like a harborshark. Seems a little dishonest but you could always just talk to her.

>>34348572
canada fuck yeah bloxbot

>>34352938
that's true, i always forget /adv/ exists

she goes to boarding school in another city and by the time she has her next holiday she'll be 18. it wouldn't be like i was just waiting around for the date

>>34351828
>I go down on her and make her cum. Then I pound her until she sees stars.

Jesus Christ, the cringe. Only a virgin would type this kind of shit, tb h.

>>34353017
Sounds like fair game to me. Have fun with it lucky anon.

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how about 22 x 12?

>>34352823
I wouldn't think it's immoral if it didn't hurt people. It doesn't have to, but it often does.

Not everyone who is 20+ that is interested in younger girls is inherently dangerous, but a lot of people are attracted to the power dynamic. That is what is dangerous.

>>34352868

>I think what you're trying to say is the mentality/maturity of the two people in question is whats really on the table here.

You're exactly right. I don't think liking younger girls is inherently evil, especially if you have the best of intentions. I just think for the safety of both parties it's better to keep it to yourself. I've seen this happen so many times and it almost always ended poorly.

My concern is primarily for the young girl, because young girls think they're smarter than they really are and make bad decisions. It's what they do. I think capitalizing off of that inherent immaturity is gross, and most "fuck a teenager lol" posters aren't really concerned with much else other than easy sex.

I hope the best for OP and I'd like to believe that anyone in this situation is thoughtful and makes the decision they believe is right and is most beneficial for both parties. Knowing the demographic of this board, however, I'm unlikely to assume they will.

Thank you for being reasonable, though. There is too much underage b& in this thread for my tired grandpa ass.

>>34353019
>suggesting that you'd go down on a girl makes you a virgin

Please don't tell me you believe this.

>>34353062
yeah, i just have to resist the urge until she goes back to school, which is in about a week

i've hung out with her a few times in the last couple of weeks but nothing has happened

Is that legal where you are? If yes, then no, it's not wrong.

You should just go ahead and post more of this chick

>>34353091
>I'd like to believe that anyone in this situation is thoughtful and makes the decision they believe is right and is most beneficial for both parties.

i can confirm that i genuinely am doing this

i'm legit not a creep or anything that is just looking for a younger girl to root, i've known this girl for like 10 years and have no intention of just fucking her over

>>34353163
Then Godspeed, Anon. I hope the best for you and that things work out. Your concern and consideration of is key. Just don't forget how young she is. Not to guilt you, but that power imbalance will always be present, and she's going to like teenage girl stuff and that will probably throw you off from time to time.

Be good to her. You kinda have my blessing.

>>34348069
I banged a 17yo for a few months when I was 25. Young girls will do just about anything to please you while they like you. Don't be dumb and fall in love and it'll be the best sex of your life

>>34348069
Not at all. Age doesn't matter. Have fun.