So, with how popular this is, I take it women are really into

literally every girl I've ever fucked likes being choked and spanked

i read the whole series to see what all these middle aged chicks were raging about and it's actually pretty vanilla. most of the girls i know who claim to like kinky shit seem to only like the idea because when they do get put into that situation they tap out

I think by default 'sexual submission' is something everyone likes, including guys - the idea of being slapped around or tied up is hot and easy to relate to because of various experiences of physical stimulation we've had throughout our lives, so it's easy to play with mentally.

I think this book is popular because the type of women who read it are easily swayed by the fact that other women seem to be (reportedly) reading it. It's 'edgy' for women, without being actually edgy.

>>34301134

Fantasy and reality are not the same. For how much I've fapped to tranny porn, if a transsexual put a dick in front of me, I would not suck it.

I liked rough sex but I think I have vaginismus now, it really hurts. Game over I guess

>>34300665

Star wars made billions , you really think everyone likes robots and hairy bears

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>>34300665
I read the first book and absolutely hated it desu, I still can't see the hype
>t. roastie

this book is not particularly popular anymore, for one

but to your question: part of the reason why it became popular in the first place was because it pretends to a pretty popular kind of female fantasy.

"i want a rich, attractive, powerful man to select me as his sexual partner and dominate me"

this is why the actual sexplay in the book/movie is on the more vanilla side of things.

also, for what it's worth, most women i know who had any kind of opinion about this book thought it was really poorly written and/or glamorized an abusive relationship (not because he hits her or whatever but because he basically manipulates her into becoming his sub). at the same time i am aware that plenty of normie women (many of them older) picked up this book and genuinely enjoyed it.

>Do most girls at least enjoy getting spanked/choked?

in my experience most do, but not all of them. everybody but the hardcore fetlife crowd will tap out past that point, though.

most straight girls want the dude to be dominant in bed. choking/spanking/etc. is basically showing her "i'm in charge, i can be rough with you without seriously endangering you because i have the power to do that"

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>>34301389
>most straight girls want the dude to be dominant in bed. choking/spanking/etc. is basically showing her "i'm in charge, i can be rough with you without seriously endangering you because i have the power to do that"

Even that is overthinking it.

t. wymyn

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>>34300665
A lot of them claim to be """kinky""" and into """bondage""" but for 95% it begins and ends with spanking and light choking and MAYBE having their wrists tied, anything else they aren't interested in and think is weird
Pic related, vast majority of """kinky""" girls likely say even bondage as entry-tier as this is too "hardcore" for them and won't try it

>>34301545
It's happening on a subconscious level. They're not actively, rationally following that train of thought.

>>34301202
>so do guys
Stop projecting nigger.

anybody else into rough sex but think bondage is too gimmicky

or is it just me?

>>34300725
Literally word for word what I came here to post

2spoopy 4 me

>>34301798
i think the point where you have to start using props/toys is where i become uninterested

>>34301825
yeah it just seems to be too much

but then again we haven't trained our bodies sexually to crave that

like i can't fap to porn without at least one ass cheek spread, i guess it's the same concept with people into bondage

>>34301798
For some people bondage isn't about the rough sex necessarily, for some it's the aesthetics or the mind games
I started developing a fascination with damsel-in-distress type characters when I was younger so now a girl roped up, squirming, and pretending to whine for help gets me rock hard even if there's no nudity involved

>>34301134
the fun part is trying to escape while he does
but he ignores you and fucks you harder

don't be retarded

t. girl

if she's a whore, she'll submit and scream in pleasure. if she's a good little girl, she'll try to tap out but still submit to you.

>>34301688
this is my dream pretty much

>>34302038
>it's an "anon tries to get people accused of rape" episode

>>34302061
I'm sad The Underground shut down, a lot of their photosets were the perfect combination of playful and sexy

>>34301714
Well the great majority of people including other women sure as shit act like it...

>>34301825
Yeah once it starts to be obvious that it's fetish stuff I switch off. I don't like fetlife, fetish culture, I'm not at all against sexual exploration but do it at your own pace. Don't force it like a child who has unlimited access to the cookie jar.

>>34302220
she's not wrong.

t. other girl

>>34301688
bondage is really hit or miss imo, you have to have a really high trust level with the guy and he has to know what he's doing so it hurts just right. Get tied up wrong and left for too long and you'll ache for days.

also choking sucks and is dangerous. i prefer pillow asphyxiation.

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>>34302395
fuck pillows, nothing compares to the strength of his hands.

>>34301202
>being slapped around or tied up is hot and easy to relate to
Speak for yourself, faggot

>>34301688
>>34302061
>tfw no qt sweetheart gf who secretly loves it when you tie her up and gag her
>tfw no gf who likes to dress up and pretend to be your cute little damsel
>tfw your will never listen to your gf's muffled squeals as you tickle her helpless feet
>tfw you will never look at your gf's blushing face as she mutters how much she loves you through her gag

I would love to try bondage, what should I start with?

Wouldn't it be weird to pause action with your partner to get all the ties and shit set up?

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>>34302685
if only you didn't have a feet or tickle fetish

Most women read this out of curiosity. If you look at the plot closely, it is just a modern beauty and the beast. The girl does not like his fetish at first and tries to change his beastly ways.

Man, I'm too frail and short at this point. Even if I wanted to engage in rough sex it'd probably break me, and despite that being a "sexual" phrase I really dislike pain. I don't have the energy for it either, haven't had much in a long fucking while so the most I could manage is soft, lazy, casual sex on the couch in a theoretical scenario.

I mean sure, I fantasize about gentle dom but that's just firm hands holding me down and being possessively kissed and being called a good girl. I couldn't handle being called worthless and roughed up. I'm KHV NEET anyway so maybe it's just something fit for fantasy.

>>34302606
*until he accidentally collapses your windpipe

>>34302830
>a girl calling herself a NEET
Stop appropriating our culture.

>>34302296

Act like what? You lost me bub.

>>34302761
Now see, THIS I just can't get into. It all just seems like too much
Doesn't feel natural enough or something I guess

>>34300665
Women love the idea of rape, chocking, and general domination. (rape only if it's "willing" rape, whatever that means)

t. gay person who women share their most intimate thoughts with

>>34302730
You have to make the tying the foreplay, anon.