Mass hysteria?

Just look at his supporters, THEY THEMSELVES profess that Trump has an anti non white agenda and celebrate that. Like in >>34290440 , why would racists be so excited if Trump wasn't blowing a dog whistle for his entire campaign?

How is he not a fascist for wanting to put a muzzle on the media by expanding libel laws? How is he not a fascist for openly complementing Putin?

Back to your playpen

>>>/pol/

keep this shit out of r9k. go away faggot

>>34296627

Communists supported Obama. Doesn't mean he is a communist. I am a conservative Cuban whose family came here as refugees but I am still capable of acknowledging that Castro did good things. Nobody would mistake me for liking him, let alone endorsing communism, for complementing some of his actions.

The media is absolutely out of control. Many democrats have attempted to indirectly silence conservative media as well; they proposed a law that would ban media companies with an arbitrary % of foreign ownership from covering politics. Fox and the WSJ just happen to be over the arbitrary threshhold.

Admit it: you people only like democracy when you win.

>>34296627

Define 'fascism' without using google.

Hint: its not 'ideas I dont like'

Wow. You sure showed those hypothetical protestors what for, OP! I mean, you literally left them speechless!

Thanks for helping to Make America Great Again!

>>34296955
A totalitarian right wing government. Which is what Putin controls and what Trump admires in Putin.

>>34296480
Everyone I've met who was protesting trump did so because he gets mad when people criticize him. He thinks he's supposed to be immune to criticism because he has a position in the government, but people are trying to show him that that isn't the case, and he better get used to it, because he's in for four more years of this shit.

>>34296934
You stated your nationality, not your race. Most Cubans in the US are white. Are you trying to flaunt that for idpol points?

Anyways, nobody said I supported the Democratic establishment, or that bill (that apparently wasn't passed).

And Trump's dog whistle racism is pretty obvious, just look at his appointees like Jeff Sessions or Steve Bannon.

He's an extreme nationalist and a populist, that makes him close to fascists and racists.

It's ok to be nationalist but you can't base all your policies on that, and a looking at his speech today that's all he seems to care about...

>>34296627
Because shitskins overwhelmingly vote Democrat

Freedom of press is not freedom to spread lies and propoganda. MsM is Fake News

>>34297002

Completely wrong. Study your history and global politics.

>>34297002
And what about the totalitarian left? Are they also fascist?

>>34297053
>I'm protesting Trump because it makes him mad that I'm protesting him

What the fuck is this logic?

I'd reckon majority of the """protesters""" have daddy issues

>>34296934
>I am a conservative Cuban

How does it feel knowing that your family cant come here legally anymore for simply touching american ground?

>>34297156
Hillcunt was an extreme globalist, and wanted to flood our country with rapefugees.

>>34297218
No, they are communist. Just as horrible, but on the other side of the spectrum.

>>34297200
Are you trying to prove my point? You say Trump isn't racist, then attack his critics as "shitskins". And how am I supposed to believe he isn't an authoritarian when you're defending his remarks on freedom of the press?

>>34296480
>I'm too much of a pussy to leave my safe spaces and WAY too much of one to debate people IRL, but here's what /pol/ tells me people who disagree with me believe

>>34297265

I'm totally ok with keep immigrants out, but when you want to force me to use my money how you want, paying more for things because of muh jobs, telling me where should I invest MY money, that I'm not ok with, thats what commies do.

>>34297280
My statements have nothing to do with what Trump thinks. But when majority of shitskins vote Demokkkrat, it's understandable they'll take some heat. Just like FUCK WHITEY means fuck Republicans

>how am I supposed to believe he isn't an authoritarian when you're defending his remarks on freedom of the press?

How am I supposed to believe you're not a retard if you think Freedom of Press equates lies, slander, libel, and spreading of propaganda?

>>34297356
>force me to use my money how you want, paying more for things because of muh jobs, telling me where should I invest MY money

What the fuck are you talking about?

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>>34296480
>this thread
When did /r9k/ become tumblr?

>>34297067

No, I was mentioning it to point out how ridiculous your statement is. As a Cuban in America I obviously hate Castro. But I won't blindly condemn everything he does. For the record though, in jail I had to eat with the Mexicans because I am 'not white', and if I was killed by a white cop I am sure you'd be calling me a 'minority', but in this case, like George Zimmerman, I am white because that is what your narrative demands.

I am not denying that there are racist conservatives. But when you keep claiming that every conservative who gets elected is a secret fascist nazi racist (you people did this with Bush too, and his dad, and Reagan...) it becomes 1. tiring 2. increasingly transparent and 3. meaningless. The average vocal liberal has become are 'the non-gender-conforming person who cried bigot'.

Can't you see that all this stuff is what cost you this election?

>>34297366
>everything I disagree with is lies/slander/libel/propaganda
t. Stalin

>>34297434
>Trump is a rapist and hillary has a 98% chance of winning because duh man duh tv said so

t. Clueless retard

I wish Trump was a racist authoritarian, because commies like you and the feral shitskins deserve to taste boot heel

>>34297387

>foreigners are takin our jobs
>you have to buy american
>I'm gonna make companies come back to america

Did you even listen to his speech you retard??

>>34297263

Why would I care? I am an individual human being, not a list of demographic categories. Also I am American first and I understand that when the economy is not growing fast enough we can not take unlimited immigrants. Besides which, in terms of realpolitik, wet foot dry foot was a relic of the cold war. But mainly I am not an identity-politics drone.

>>34297472
>implying this isn't true
>implying you shouldn't
>implying he won't and NAFTA wasn't a scam to weaken the middle class

If you don't like it then move to Mexico, unless you're a racist

>>34297391
4.chan has been raided since around 2015 man, this isnt our site anymore.
I moved to 8.chan.

>>34297366
>How am I supposed to believe you're not a retard if you think Freedom of Press equates lies, slander, libel, and spreading of propaganda?
Who is in charge of defining what is propaganda and lies? The people in power? Would they ever abuse that power to only define lies as things that go against them? This is why I'm afraid of Trump supporters, this type of shit is all over your forums.

>>34297401
>I am white because that is what your narrative demands.
I simply accused you of being white because you brought up your background and it seemed like you were trying to pull some sleight of hand, like you believed I would take you more seriously if you weren't white, so you put out some facts to make me assume you weren't white. Forgive me if I was wrong about that, I've encountered that several times IRL.

>But when you keep claiming that every conservative who gets elected is a secret fascist nazi racist
I didn't say that, I said that only TRUMP was, and I said that because of his actions, not his words.

>But when you keep claiming that every conservative who gets elected is a secret fascist nazi racis
Can you give a me a source that isn't /pol/? I've seen polls that show most democrats agree with you, that political correctness is a problem.

>>34297470
If Trump was an authoritarian, your NEET ass would be drawing flies in a ditch by now, dead from just a few hours of forced labor. Such a weak little worm. Sad!

All I want is some God damned high speed rail in America

If Trump does that for America (which I doubt), I'd consider voting for him in 2020

>>34297434
See why I don't want to give Trump that power?

>>34297486
>I am an individual human being, not a list of demographic categories.
Yet you criticize people according to what group they belong to here >>34297401

>>34297517
>Who is in charge of defining what is propaganda and lies?

Truth is not subjective

>Would they ever abuse that power to only define lies as things that go against them?

Clearly, as the media has shown the past year and a half. They purposely misinterpreted things Trump said, took them out of context, and refused to report his actual policies.

>This is why I'm afraid of Trump supporters, this type of shit is all over your forums.

It's actually all over leftard forums, you eat up every piece of warm dog shit the Lugenpresse puts out, only because it confirms the bias the same media built for you.

>>34297512

>Implying I need daddy trump to bring me back my blue collar redneck factory job

No I'm actually good at what I do and I can do business with anyone I want I don't need daddy trump to protect me because I'm not a useless piece of shit that can only do business if daddy trump keep the foreign products away because they're taking er jerbs

>>34297531
Nice projection faggot. I doubt you've ever done a days work of physical labor in your life. Libtards are so soft and coddled. Next 4 years is going to be a blast

>>34297576
>Truth is not subjective
It's not, that doesn't mean that governments are the best way to determine what truth is.

> They purposely misinterpreted things Trump said, took them out of context, and refused to report his actual policies.
Such as?

>It's actually all over leftard forums, you eat up every piece of warm dog shit the Lugenpresse puts out, only because it confirms the bias the same media built for you.
I'm not a leftist.

>>34296480

Trump is a swindler whose only skills are spin and moral flexibility. In short, I don't like hi because he is a standard politician. He is less polished and reactionary than most, but those are hardly desirable traits in a president.

>>34297590
Hey great retard, but the millions of unemployed who need the manufacturing jobs that NAFTA ripped from this country think other wise.

Daily reminder that you lost, socialism lost, Trump won, America won, Trump is your President, and you are on the wrong side of history. Does it sting? I bet it does

>>34297668
>socialism lost, Trump won
Trump is more socialist than most American politicians.

>>34297659

That should have been 'more reactionary than most'

>>34297622
>It's not, that doesn't mean that governments are the best way to determine what truth is.

Neither should the media. The fact they coined the term Fake News and tried to apply it to anyone that wasn't shilling for hill should alarm you

>Such as?

Too many to count really. The Mexican rapist comment, the disabled reporter, Trump University...

>I'm not a leftist.

Sure you're not. Your cuckold numale ass was FEELIN DUH BERN

>>34297391
4chan is contrarian at the core. Conservatives are the establishment again.

>>34297686
National Socialist, sure.

>>34297668
Lol Hillary Clinton a socialist. Just lol.

>>34297732
No they're not. All the media is still ANTI TRUMP HAHA ARE WE COOL YET?

Normalfags hate Trump hence Trump is great

>>34297724
>Neither should the media.
The media is not a homogenous entity. All opinions are represented in the media, because there's plenty of media on every side of the political spectrum.

>The Mexican rapist comment
He literally said "they're rapists"

>the disabled reporter
How did he NOT mock him? It's literally on video.

>Trump University
Which explains why Trump settled for $25 million.,....

>>34297512
>he believes NAFTA is part of a grand conspiracy to destroy American prosperity
Holy kek. You probably won't be able to comprehend any of this, but I'll bite anyway in case someone with functioning brain cells is reading this thread. Sweatshops and call centers moving elsewhere is not a bad thing. Those jobs are menial and inefficient. The "le buy made in USA" meme is similarly retarded; just because something wasn't "made" in the USA doesn't mean American jobs weren't involved in creating it, and likewise, something labelled as "made" in the USA wasn't necessarily produced exclusively with American labor. NAFTA and free trade in general are necessary because the USA no longer has the resources to be fully self-sufficient. Really, it never did, but free trade is more important now than ever because of how depleted our raw materials are. I sincerely hope you grow out of your edgy far-right phase, our at least get educated enough that you don't fall for populist lies.

>>34297761
How many hours a day do you watch CNN? How do you know what "the media" is saying? Or are you just going based off of what YOUR media tells you the OTHER media says?

And yes, I do watch Fox news to understand conservatives better.

>>34297067
>Jeff Sessions
You mean the guy who was responsible for the suit that caused the collapse of the KKK in Alabama? Yeah what a racist prick

>>34297801
>he did one good thing so he's never done anything racist ever

>>34297724
>Sure you're not. Your cuckold numale ass was FEELIN DUH BERN
Actually I'm further right than Hillary.

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>>34297561
How did you read that in my post? I honestly have 0 idea what you are talking about, unless you are suggesting that political party is the same kind of group as race.


>>34297517
I dont know what you meant to quote in your third paragraph towards me. No I dont have some poll that proves that racebaiting, fearmongering, and argumentum ad hitlerum are why you lost, but it is my theory (along with Clinton's massive corruption), and one that is held by vast swathes of the population and many commentators on both sides, and backed up by anecdotal evidence all over the place. Dont mention /pol/ to me, they are the conservative equivalent of SJWs (useful retards).

Yes, YOU PERSONALLY only said trump is a 'fascist' but people like you have been saying it about e ry single republican cabdidaye for half a century, always with absolutely zero evidence. Are you honestly deranged enough to think that Trump is some kind of KKK racist (I wont bother going into the fascist charge because you do not know what that word means)? That is absoluetly ridiculous. Absolutely.

>>34297828

Does doing one racist thing mean one is condemned to being branded a racist for the rest of one's existence?

>>34297881
>Yes, YOU PERSONALLY only said trump is a 'fascist' but people like you have been saying it about e ry single republican cabdidaye for half a century
How do you know what people like me even are? I haven't given you any information as to my party affiliation or anything.

>Are you honestly deranged enough to think that Trump is some kind of KKK racist
He appointed Steve Bannon, how can you defend that?

>>34297912
If you stand by your actions as Jeff does, yes.

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>>34297748
Saul Alinsky was her mentor

>>34297771
>The media is not a homogenous entity.

For the most part it is. 6 companies own the majority of the media outlets and they all have the same agenda.

>He literally said "they're rapists"

He said "Their rapists," as in Mexicans convicted of rape they sent across the border because they don't want to deal with them

>How did he NOT mock him? It's literally on video.

The reporter has a gimpy arm and Trump was flailing around in a patronizing manner, much like when he mocked Cruz, Kasich, or Jeb. The gimpy reporter can't flail like that with his creepy t-rex arm

>Which explains why Trump settled for $25 million

Some cases it's easier to settle than to deal with the bullshit. He is President, would look trivial to be dragged through the courts.

The plaintiff was on video recording and written record saying she enjoyed Trump U. Only reason the case wasn't thrown out was because the judge had ties to La Raza.

>>34297780
>he believes NAFTA hasn't made America less prosperous

Didn't even read the rest of your inane bullshit

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>>34297800
>search Trump on google
>first page is overflowing with major news site highlighting some anti-trump propaganda or """"news""""

>>34297800
I do not watch CNN at all. It's hard to describe, but I kind of get physically sick watching CNN. Probably because I know it's propaganda. Look up Project Mockingbird

I'm not defending FoX, but I at least like some FoX hosts like Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs. I can't think of anyone I like on CNN...

>>34296627

white-supremacists don't think trump is a white-supremacist; trump is basically a fucking jew. skinheads and stormfronters like him because he supports nationalism and meritocracy, and doesn't give a fuck about social justice and special minority priviledges.

>>34297780
>I sincerely hope you grow out of your edgy far-right phase, our at least get educated enough that you don't fall for populist lies.

S-SHUT UP YOU SNOWFLAKE C.UCK

>>34297847
You still felt the bern

>>34297668

>say your going to intervene in the economy to bring back er jerbs

But no you are the socialist!!

How can some people be so stupid??

>>34297951
>back to Tumblr

Ironic.

How about you go back to /pol/ with this shit thread. You literally have your own political board.

>>34297951
The first result for me is that he removed climate change and LGBT rights from the white house. The rest is just reporting in the innaguration. Maybe my Google results are different than yours because Google personalizes results.

>>34298014
Nope. Can you defend your position without attaching me to some strawman?

>>34298002
Would a jew ever say America First? He does have clear ties to jews, yes, but he is also widely hated by jews and Israeli PM shilled for hill. Really makes me think...

>>34297937

That's not from. Alinsky, retard. Don't believe everything you meme. Seriously, go find the Saul Alinsky original on that one. You won't find it in anything but your memes.

>>34298027
>bringing back manufacturing = socialism

Uhhh

>>34298046
>MUH CLIMATE CHANGE MUH FAGGOTRY

This shit has masqueraded as politics for long enough. And the fact you take the Global Warming Conspiracy seriously and you don't think LGBT should be thrown into a giant burning pit means you're a left wing libtard, hope you didn't donate to Hernie LMAO

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>>34298091
Yeah, actually it is, retard. Alinsky was a hardcore socialist and hillary sucked his dick

>>34298105
The fact that you simply believe reporting on what Trump did, remove climate change and LGBT rights from the white house website, is attacking him, says a lot.

>>34298127


Again, you got it quoted. Show me the original. This is some retarded memesters like you writing about some shit he heard from some guy at a urinal.

Trump says mean words that hurt people's little feelings. And Clinton is literally a criminal.
The way I see it, at least Trump is honest. People always say politicians are liars, but when an honest guy comes along, they try to boycott him.
Either way, as long as America only has two parties, they don't have a real democracy. People who don't agree with either party practically have no vote, because any vote except Democrat or Republican gets ignored and thrown out by the electoral college.

>>34298199
I misread your post, but my point stays the same.

>>34298204
It's not a secret fucktard

lmgtfy.com/?q=Saul+Alinsky+How+to+Create+a+Socialist+State

>>34298237

>Trump
>Honest

He's far too inconsistent to able to even attempt to claim honesty. Look at his changing his mind on women being punished for abortion 17 times in one day.

Not to mention the net worth thing and the Trump- U thing which are outright lies.

>>34298322
He's honest to anyone who isn't a libatard who is used to being fed warm dog shit and told its the truth

You look at interviews of him from the 80s and the core is still the same of which he campaigned on

>>34297937
>For the most part it is. 6 companies own the majority of the media outlets and they all have the same agenda.
The internet has drastically reduced their power. The most shared story on facebook during the election cycle was about the pope endorsing Trump (never happened), it's safe to say that the alternative media is dominant now.

>He said "Their rapists," as in Mexicans convicted of rape they sent across the border because they don't want to deal with them
He didn't specify, and there's no proof Mexico actually does that.

>The reporter has a gimpy arm and Trump was flailing around in a patronizing manner, much like when he mocked Cruz, Kasich, or Jeb. The gimpy reporter can't flail like that with his creepy t-rex arm
Trump mimicked the t-rex arm by folding his arm like he was disabled too. It was also way more extreme than when he mocked Jeb or Kasich.


>Some cases it's easier to settle than to deal with the bullshit. He is President, would look trivial to be dragged through the courts.
Trump's ego is to big to lose if he knows he can win.

>>34298127
I don't get it, how do Drumpftards actually complain that Hillary was a socialist and a neoliberal at the same time?

>>34298376
>The internet has drastically reduced their power.

Which is a big part of why Trump won and why the MSM is so desperate to crack down on (((Fake News)))

>He didn't specify, and there's no proof Mexico actually does that.

It's common sense. And if you think Mexico doesn't allow criminals to go across the border haha that's cute

>Trump mimicked the t-rex arm by folding his arm like he was disabled too. It was also way more extreme than when he mocked Jeb or Kasich.

Trump explained he didn't mock him, and I think I will take his word over the Lugenpresse

>Trump's ego is to big to lose if he knows he can win.

He probably could have won. Do you even know what the case was about?

On top of that, the MSM completely ignored the Clintons actual University scandal, Laureate U, which they've used to launder money for decades

>>34298449
> a socialist and a neoliberal at the same time?

You think there is a difference? Hahahahaha

And
>Drumpf

Your reddit is showing

>>34298275

Did you look at the results?

>Some guys blog quotes it like you
>Wiki page, doesn't mention it
>Snopes, conclusion, not Alinsky.

These are the first three. The next couple are more memesters who once again quote without any more information than you gave.

>>34298491
>Which is a big part of why Trump won and why the MSM is so desperate to crack down on (((Fake News)))
The pope literally never endorsed Trump, it's by definition fake news.

>It's common sense. And if you think Mexico doesn't allow criminals to go across the border haha that's cute
You're conflating "Mexico deliberately selects criminals to go to America" to "Mexico lets people freely move out of their borders, some of whom are criminals".

>Trump explained he didn't mock him, and I think I will take his word over the Lugenpresse
So your only defense is that you blindly believe Trump? Glad you're finally honest.

>He probably could have won.
His ego is so big that if he could have won, he would have, because he knows that settling would lead people to label him as guilty. Therefore he didn't think he could win.

>On top of that, the MSM completely ignored the Clintons actual University scandal, Laureate U, which they've used to launder money for decades
I actually did hear about that on CNN

>>34298523
>You think there is a difference?
There is quite the difference between the late USSR (socialist) and the USA (neoliberal).

>>34298569
>snopes
>credible

The fact Jewgle put it at the top of the results should make it blatantly obvious. Yes Saul Alinsly wrote that, have you read Rules for Radicals?

>>34298105

>intervening in the economy
>not socialist

How can you all be so stupid??

>>34298358

>He was consistent on things I will call the core so I can pretend he's not an opportunistic self-aggrandizing swindler

>>34298581
>The pope literally never endorsed Trump, it's by definition fake news.

So is saying shartlary had a 98% chance at winning

>You're conflating "Mexico deliberately selects criminals to go to America" to "Mexico lets people freely move out of their borders, some of whom are criminals".

I'm going to say both likely happens, but it depends on the circumstances.

>So your only defense is that you blindly believe Trump? Glad you're finally honest.

As opposed to blindly believing the Lugenpresse who said Trump had no chance at winning? Yes.

>His ego is so big that if he could have won, he would have, because he knows that settling would lead people to label him as guilty. Therefore he didn't think he could win.

Or he didn't want his legacy sullied with a trivial case

>I actually did hear about that on CNN

Sure you did, I bet Clinton News Network did a great job reporting it

>>34298600
Socialist = USSR
Neo socialist = USSA

No difference.

>>34298603

I have read rules for radicals. It wasn't in there and in none of the quotes was it claimed that it was from that book.

Snopes isn't entirely reliable, but it's at least as reliable as so.e guy's blog, which is what you have.

>>34298607

Every government intervenes in the market in some form or another. By your standard every non-ancap society is socialist.

>>34298607
>dismantling a trade agreement that is harming the country and it's cirizens
>socialist

I know you're still salty Hernie Panders cucked out and your dreams of free college were shattered, but how can you be so stupid????


>>34298623
>I don't know what I'm talking about: The post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI

>>34298698
Explains why you're sucking Alisnky the socialist charlatans dick, and lying about what he wrote about.

>>34298739
By his logic the very creation of NAFTA is socialism

>>34298690
>So is saying shartlary had a 98% chance at winning
Except the Trump campaigns internal polls showed the same thing. The polls were skewed because Trump voters were ashamed to admit they were voting for Trump.

>I'm going to say both likely happens, but it depends on the circumstances.
Proofs.

>As opposed to blindly believing the Lugenpresse who said Trump had no chance at winning? Yes.
There's a difference between believing one man and taking opinions from a non homogeneous group that has debate and dialogue.

>Or he didn't want his legacy sullied with a trivial case
How would winning a case sully his legacy? He literally bragged about how many cases he won on the campaign trail.

>Sure you did, I bet Clinton News Network did a great job reporting it
As I said, I watch Fox too, and other sources of media. I don't just blindly agree with everything CNN says, I simply use them as a single source of information out of many.

>Socialist = USSR
>Neo socialist = USSA

>No difference.

Private companies dominate the economy of the USA. The state owned everything in the USSR. Homosexuals were sent to the gulag in the USSR. They're allowed to get married in the US. People are allowed free speech in the USA, the USSR jailed people for disagreeing with the state. You could freely leave the US, you needed special authorization to leave the USSR. I could go on for days about how they're not the same. I honestly have no idea how you cam to the conclusion that they're exactly the same.

>>34298763

Give me a page number, Give me chapter, give me anything. You've bought into this meme way too hard.

>>34298037
why are you people allowed here?
shouldn't you be crying on the streets over nothing?

>>34298827
>Except the Trump campaigns internal polls showed the same thing. The polls were skewed because Trump voters were ashamed to admit they were voting for Trump

The MSM played a big role in warping public opinion and I doubt any of Trumps internal polls gave him 2% chance at victory

>Proofs

Common sense. Mexico is a corrupt shit hole. The less criminals they have to deal with, the better.

>There's a difference between believing one man and taking opinions from a non homogeneous group that has debate and dialogue.

Non homogenous group that consists of 6 hyper-conglomerate owners of the media that all had the same agenda, make Trump look bad and shill for Hill

>How would winning a case sully his legacy? He literally bragged about how many cases he won on the campaign trail.

Gives libtards and Lugenpresse more ammo
>omg did you hear about the case?!?!?! Fucking Drumpf >;(

>As I said, I watch Fox too, and other sources of media. I don't just blindly agree with everything CNN says, I simply use them as a single source of information out of many.

K dude

>I honestly have no idea how you cam to the conclusion that they're exactly the same..

Socialism never changes

>>34298859
You read the book faggot, you look it up. What's next, you want me to wipe your ass and fuck your non-existent gf?

>>34298971
>The MSM played a big role in warping public opinion and I doubt any of Trumps internal polls gave him 2% chance at victory
He said himself he was shocked when he won, because he didn't believe it was going to happen.

>Common sense. Mexico is a corrupt shit hole. The less criminals they have to deal with, the better.
This is not an argument. I could say it's "common sense" that Mexico would want to keep those criminals in Mexico so that they could use them in labor camps to manufacture cheap exports to steal American jobs.

>Non homogenous group that consists of 6 hyper-conglomerate owners of the media that all had the same agenda, make Trump look bad and shill for Hill
Except that's no longer the case, now thousands of independent websites are "the media" thanks to the internet.

>Gives libtards and Lugenpresse more ammo
>omg did you hear about the case?!?!?! Fucking Drumpf >;(
You need to explain how this works without saying "because libtards" (I'm not even a liberal, I'm a centrist)

>Socialism never changes
So if it never changes, and the USSR was socialist, and the USA is different from the USSR, the USA can't be socialist by your own logic. Please explain, what is your definition of socialism?

>>34298971

Here's the deal. You find that quote for me in rules for radicals and I will PayPal you $1000.

>>34297211
From my recollection, the fascist symbol is a bundle of wood surrounding an axe. The idea being that unity in purpose and principles imparts strength. The state takes control of the means of production while imposing strict control over the culture in an effort to promote traditionalism and nationalism. Capitalism still exists, but only in so far as it does not undermine cultural unity. The state also employs strong arm justice, where even small infractions result in severe punishment. As freedom of expression results in cultural disunity, it is almost nonexistent in a fascist state.

>>34298971
Here is a PDF of the book if it helps.

https://www.google.ch/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://archive.org/stream/RulesForRadicals/RulesForRadicals_djvu.txt&ved=0ahUKEwjrpNWCidLRAhUBDsAKHXzbBZgQFggoMAE&usg=AFQjCNFwS-7KcjDa_xzD7yKdA3bxmhzPvA&sig2=VJRr8GWa5aYho5jdFYXyNw

I have No Respect for Trump until he finally solves our Nigger Problem.

>>34299120

What is the final solution to that particular problem?

>>34299047
>He said himself he was shocked when he won, because he didn't believe it was going to happen

A lot of people were shocked. I bet Hitlary would have said the same if she won.

>This is not an argument.

Yeah well it's the only one you're going to get. How do you explain illegal Mexican criminals who have been deported multiple times, and somehow continually find their way into the States?

>Except that's no longer the case, now thousands of independent websites are "the media" thanks to the internet.

Yeah, but that's clearly not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to the Mainstream and if you think the Mainstream is a non-homogenous element instead of a conglomerate with a common agenda

>You need to explain how this works without saying

My point is, if the plaintiff is on record saying good things about Trump U, why would the case not be thrown out unless the judge had a grudge?

>So if it never changes, and the USSR was socialist, and the USA is different from the USSR, the USA can't be socialist by your own logic. Please explain, what is your definition of socialism?

The neosocialist Hillary drones lost, thank God, but if they won they would turn USA into USSA hence
>>34297937

>>34299064
Will you pay me $1000 to wipe your ass as well?

>>34298763

Free market capitalism:
>goods and services prices, production and distribution are decided in a free market

Socialism:
>the government intervenes to modify the prices, production and distribution of goods

Guess in which category Trump protectionism falls?

>>34299120
He put Ben Carson in control of revitalizing the inner cities. Lets hope Sleepy Black Brain Surgeon man can do it

>>34299186
>>goods and services prices, production and distribution are decided in a free market

NAFTA =/= Free Market

>the government intervenes to modify the prices, production and distribution of goods

Explain how Trump is intervening to modify prices, production, or distribution of goods.

>>34296627
>a handful of edgy 4chan autists are representative of all Trump supporters

And all niggers are criminals, right?

>>34299179

You know what, I wouldn't give you $1000 to wipe my arse. But how about we start with me not having to give you $1000 because your quote doesn't exist outside of your memetic fantasies.

Here's the link to the PDF again:

https://www.google.ch/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://archive.org/stream/RulesForRadicals/RulesForRadicals_djvu.txt&ved=0ahUKEwjrpNWCidLRAhUBDsAKHXzbBZgQFggoMAE&usg=AFQjCNFwS-7KcjDa_xzD7yKdA3bxmhzPvA&sig2=VJRr8GWa5aYho5jdFYXyNw

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>>34297732
>republicans in office suddenly makes american society conservative

>>34299179
>A lot of people were shocked. I bet Hitlary would have said the same if she won.
Way to completely avoid the point. So again, if the Trump campaign's internal polls did not show that it was unlikely for Trump to win, then why did he on video admit to being shocked and in disbelief when the results came in?

>Yeah well it's the only one you're going to get.
So you admit you have no actual documentation to back this up.

>How do you explain illegal Mexican criminals who have been deported multiple times, and somehow continually find their way into the States?
Because when they get deported, they come back to the US without the consent of either government. And why is it Mexico's duty to contain their citizens? Only totalitarian countries like North Korea forbid people from leaving. Not trapping people inside a country =/= deliberately sending criminals.

>Yeah, but that's clearly not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to the Mainstream and if you think the Mainstream is a non-homogenous element instead of a conglomerate with a common agenda
But the alternative media IS mainstream now. The fucking editor in chief of Breitbart is now the chief strategist at the whitehouse. You can't keep dismissing the influence of the alternative media.

>My point is, if the plaintiff is on record saying good things about Trump U, why would the case not be thrown out unless the judge had a grudge?
Because that's not how the law works. It's not based on public opinion. Some domestic abuse victims say nice things about their abusers, doesn't mean the abuser is innocent.

>The neosocialist Hillary drones lost, thank God, but if they won they would turn USA into USSA hence
Answer this fucking question or else I'm done here. What is your definition of socialism?

>>34299281
Just because it's not in the particular book, doesn't mean he didn't write How to Establish a Socialist State. Have you read his other books? All of the articles he wrote?

If not, where did it come from?

>>34299278
>>a handful of edgy 4chan autists
It's not just a handful of edgy autists. I live in a red state. I've had discussions with Trump supporters who support an outright genocide of Afghans as a way to end the war. These are regular middle aged people.

>>34299323
Contrarians don't have to rebel against "society", they also rebel against "the establishment". "The establishment" is conservative now. All branches of the American government are controlled by conservatives.

>>34299259

>Explain how Trump is intervening to modify prices, production, or distribution of goods.

Using tariffs to make products you might want more expensive = Price distorsion

Forcing companies to produce in a certain place = intervening with production

Giving subsidies to companies that do what he wants = interfering with distribution a.k.a. crony capitalism

>>34297737
You're either baiting or you haven't read one bit of his policies and just absorbed every clickbait MSM headline you saw. Muh wall, muh racist, muh fascist. Stop spouting this garbage. If you're going to enter a discussion about these things then you should not do it ignorantly.

>>34297732
4chan is going to swing left again in a few months. You heard it here first.

>>34299422
''Establishment'' is too broad a concept. Liberals still control aspects of the establishment like media and academia.

>>34299345
>Way to completely avoid the point. So again, if the Trump campaign's internal polls did not show that it was unlikely for Trump to win, then why did he on video admit to being shocked and in disbelief when the results came in?

If you saw the pictures of him on Election Night, he doesn't look in shock or disbelief. I doubt he would do what he did if wasn't confident he was going to win.

>So you admit you have no actual documentation to back this up.

Wait, let me just get official documentation from the Mexican Government confirming they let loose their criminals across our border

>And why is it Mexico's duty to contain their citizens?

It isn't, but is their duty to punish their criminals. Let's see them trt to come back after being deported when the Wall is built.

>But the alternative media IS mainstream now.

The Alternative media might be mainstream, in a sense, but it is not part of the major conglomerate, which is why the MSM tried to brand them as Fake News

>Because that's not how the law works. It's not based on public opinion.

Moron, it's like if a girl accuses you of sexual assault yet you have her on video saying I was not assaulted, you think the judge would not throw the case out unless he had something personally vested?

>What is your definition of socialism?

My definition of a Socialist State is
>>34297937

>>34299358

You just have no idea how the burden of proof works do you?

>>34299369
Libshits have no room to talk. Your prophet Obama has been dropping bombs for the past 4 years

>>34299422
Good luck with that

>>34299429
Only good kind of socialism is National Socialism

>>34299432
I know more about his policies than you do

>>34297391
just because im a loser doesn't mean I cant think or be bought off to vote against my own intrests through memes.

>>34299481
Prove he didn't write that

>>34299532
Voting Bernie wasn't in your interest, fool

>>34299558

Prove you're not a serial child rapist.

>>34299369
as a christian the more I talk to these people the more I'm convinced they are evil personified.

>>34299464
That is continuing to change, brother. People are finally beginning to wake up to the bullshit that the Jewi$h media has been feeding them. Thank God we have the Internet. Trump being elected is evidence that people are questioning the liberal narrative. No matter how much they vilify him, people are realizing the truth.

Liberalism in the US is finally dying, and it's going to usher in a new era. The days of little white children being taught to be ashamed of what they are and to feel guilty just for being white are going to come to an end. When that day comes, the disgusting amount of race mixing that's taking place now will decrease down to nothing. People will look back and laugh at the fact that good white women are getting pregnant and giving birth to black babies just because the Jewi$h media is telling them to do just that.

>>34299478
>If you saw the pictures of him on Election Night, he doesn't look in shock or disbelief. I doubt he would do what he did if wasn't confident he was going to win.
Oh for fucks sake, he LITERALLY FUCKING SAID HE WAS IN DISBELIEF.

>Wait, let me just get official documentation from the Mexican Government confirming they let loose their criminals across our border
Or documentation from US border patrol that would see evidence of it happening. Or data from investigative reporters who decided to see if it was actually happening by going to Mexico and investigating.

>Let's see them trt to come back after being deported when the Wall is built.
Most illegals come by plane so I'm not sure a wall is going to be the thing that stops them.

>Moron, it's like if a girl accuses you of sexual assault yet you have her on video saying I was not assaulted, you think the judge would not throw the case out unless he had something personally vested?
Except victims of domestic abuse sometimes do lie to protect their abuser.


That's not a definition of socialism either, it's instructions on how to establish a socialist state. It doesn't say what the end goal of socialism is or how you can know you've arrived at it. So this is your last change before I close the tab, what is socialism? What is the end goal? How do you know to recognize it? All the definitions I can find are either state ownership of the economy, or workers owning the means of production, neither of which describe the USA.


>>34299505
I hate Obama and am glad he's gone. I'm not a liberal, I'm a centrist. The ACA was a disaster. I hate his position on gun control. He's too friendly to wall street. He's a war mongerer. I have plenty of criticisms of Obama.

>>34299587
Prove your daddy never raped your ass

>>34299611
You're not a Christian, you're a Cucktian. All those innocents died because Israel wanted them to.

>>34299627
Another victim of the liberal media brainwashing. Sad!

>>34299652
>give plenty of criticisms of liberals
>hurr you're so brainwashed by liberals

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>>34299452
Keep dreaming, cuck. We're just drifting further to the right.

>again
4chan was never liberal. If it ever had any ideology, it was ''fuck off and leave us alone'' Libertarianism.

>>34299629

Well this has been fun. Have fun pedalling your unsubstantiated meme quotes.

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>>34299674
Are you disagreeing with Fox's assessment of old 4chan?

>>34299627
>Oh for fucks sake, he LITERALLY FUCKING SAID HE WAS IN DISBELIEF.

That's called being humble

>Or documentation from US border patrol that would see evidence of it happening. Or data from investigative reporters who decided to see if it was actually happening by going to Mexico and investigating.

Neither of that has happened. And if border patrol was worth a damn they wouldn't be able to get back into our country multiple times.

>Most illegals come by plane so I'm not sure a wall is going to be the thing that stops them.

This shitty meme has gone on long enough

>Except victims of domestic abuse sometimes do lie to protect their abuser.

I don't see your logic. If you were the judge in question, and the plaintiff on was on record saying she loved Trump U, you wouldn't immediately throw out the case?

>>34299672
>defend all the liberal lies pushed by the MSM
>throw in a couple low effort points about Obama's gun control
>"I'm a Free Thinker! I'm just like you, guys!"
Check out this cuck. Keep drinking that Kool Aid.

>>34299683
Guess what, I will. Saul Alinsky was a charlatan and a socialist and he wrote that. No amount of your salty tears will change that

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>>34299689
it seems he's taking this quote to heart

>>34299689
>FOX calling something left wing means it's so

Don't I recall 4chan raiding Club Penguin and making swastikas? So left wing

>>34299726

Ok, brah. G'Nite.

>>34299704
>That's called being humble
>Trump
>humble
hm........
Also, you can be humble without lying.

>Neither of that has happened. And if border patrol was worth a damn they wouldn't be able to get back into our country multiple times.
But they get deported multiple times. Border patrol is made up of imperfect humans, they don't have a magic wand they can wave to make illegals stop coming over. They do their best to deport people who come over illegally, and Obama has deported 3 million illegals.

>This shitty meme has gone on long enough
>calling it a meme makes it a meme

>I don't see your logic. If you were the judge in question, and the plaintiff on was on record saying she loved Trump U, you wouldn't immediately throw out the case?
If I was the judge, and the plaintiff suddenly changed their story, I'd be suspicious that someone was being paid off and would do the opposite of throwing out the case.

But bye, you never defined socialism so this is my last comment.

>>34297156
Nationalist? Nah.
Populist? Nah.

I don't think he has any true core, and his defining question is: "How can I open my mouth without saying anything of value."

If he thought he could have taken the Dem primary, I think it's equally likely he would have run on their ticket.

>>34299757
I was making a joke you sperg.

>>34299716
Now you're just doing mental gymnastics to label anyone who disagrees with you as a leftist, because you want people who disagree with you to be as far away from you as possible on the political spectrum...

>>34299790
>Trump
>not humble

The MSM got you good

My point is, you real think it's impossible, given the nature of Mexicos corruption and the ineptitude of it's government, that sending their criminals, some rapist, across the border, is impossible?

>calling it a meme makes it a meme
>implying MUH PLANES isn't a meme

You really think the majority of illegals have visas and passports?

>If I was the judge, and the plaintiff suddenly changed their story, I'd be suspicious that someone was being paid off and would do the opposite of throwing out the case.

Except the whole case is founded on her changing the story. She is previously on video saying she loved Trump U. Much like the woman that was an ex-Apprentice contestant that said Trump assaulted her

C ya bitch, had fun whoopin on that ass

>>34299846
>Now you're just doing mental gymnastics to label anyone who disagrees with you as a leftist
I got called a leftist for saying don king was a scumbag

>>34299811
4 U

>>34299846
No, he's just calling you out on actually buying the warm dog shit the Liberal media was peddling while claiming you're a Centrist

>>34299880
of course hes not fucking humble, are you really that retarded?

>>34299906
seems more like you lack the mental capacity to think in terms not in black andwhite.

>>34299916
Is stopping your limousine to stop an assault humble? Is saving an elderly womans ranch, after her husband suicided to save it, and the bank was still going to take it, humble? Was fighting for Florida country clubs to be more inclusive, humble? Is raising $6 million for Veteran charities in one night, humble? Is painting a big red target on yourself and fighting for the long forgotten everyman, humble?

I think so.

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>>34297780
>have sweatshops in Mexico
or
>have semi-automated factories in the US that employ people to run the factory, market, sell, and distribute the goods. Not to mention the Americans who build the facility.

How does the US not have enough resources to be self sufficient?

>>34299880
>The MSM got you good
I don't have to listen to the MSM, I just have to listen to Trump himself to come to that conclusion.

>My point is, you real think it's impossible, given the nature of Mexicos corruption and the ineptitude of it's government, that sending their criminals, some rapist, across the border, is impossible?
It's not impossible that there's a teapot in the asteroid belt, it's just not proven or disprove. Should I believe there is a teapot in the asteroid belt?

Of course Mexico is corrupt, but I haven't been presented with evidence that the government of Mexico is deliberately deporting criminals to the USA as opposed to criminals coming to the USA of their own volition.

>You really think the majority of illegals have visas and passports?
You can literally get like day long visas just to go shopping in the US, how is that unlikely?

>Except the whole case is founded on her changing the story. She is previously on video saying she loved Trump U.
So then if things are so clear cut, Trump should be able to win the court case easily and clear his name. The fact that he isn't is proof of his guilt IMO.

>C ya bitch, had fun whoopin on that ass
I can't let you have the last word. I take that back.

>>34299929
Says the tard that eats warm dog shit from liberal media on a daily basis. Fuck off back to ribbit

>>34299906
>No, he's just calling you out on actually buying the warm dog shit the Liberal media was peddling while claiming you're a Centrist
I came to my conclusions about Trump by watching videos of himself and reading his tweets, I didn't need any help from the MSM. Do you really think it's impossible for centrists to hate far rightists?

>>34299994
He's not me, the guy you originally responded to.

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>>34296480
I'm just upset he hasn't delivered on this promise yet.

>>34299960
none of that stuff has anything to do with humility.
holy shit its like arguing with those people who kept calling Trayvon Martin a "martyr"
you are no different from those people.

>>34299988
If you listened to Trump you would not question his ability to humble himself.

The point is, thay is what Trump was referring to, whether it's accurate or not. He was referring to Mexico in monotheistic terms, ie "their rapist" not "they're rapist." I understand the miscommunication and the shitstorm that followed

>You can literally get like day long visas just to go shopping in the US, how is that unlikely?

If it was so easy, then why are there smugglers at all? They charge more than a plane ticket.

>So then if things are so clear cut, Trump should be able to win the court case easily and clear his name. The fact that he isn't is proof of his guilt IMO.

The fact the judge has ties to La Raza is proof the case fucked from the start IMO

>I can't let you have the last word. I take that back.

K bitch, knew you couldn't resist another whoopin on that ass

>>34296480
I am a Trump supporter and I dont think he as a anti non-white agenda

>>34300058
Your inability to recognize humility shows you have none.

>>34300107
you dont give a shit what the word means anon, that much is clear.

>>34300123
You're mad that I can point out instances in which Trump, a multi-billionaire, has humbled himself. Vs you dog whistling "durrrrrrrr Trump ain't humble hurr durrr"

>>34300086
>If you listened to Trump you would not question his ability to humble himself.
So you're saying it's literally impossible to come to different conclusions than you if they used the same sources of information you do?

>The point is, thay is what Trump was referring to, whether it's accurate or not. He was referring to Mexico in monotheistic terms, ie "their rapist" not "they're rapist." I understand the miscommunication and the shitstorm that followed
I guess we'll have to end that point there.

>If it was so easy, then why are there smugglers at all? They charge more than a plane ticket.
Because border security is there when you try to come in legally, people who pay for smugglers are mostly intentionally avoiding coming in legally because they have illegal intentions and don't want to get caught by border security.

>The fact the judge has ties to La Raza is proof the case fucked from the start IMO
So then Trump should have appealed to have a different judge, that is possible. Again, there's literally no excuse for him to settle unless he was guilty.

>K bitch, knew you couldn't resist another whoopin on that ass
You're the one that's backpeddling. Ie: going from "the media is lying" to "I understand the confusion and shitstorm that followed".

>>34300155
you havn't, you dont care what the word means, you are exactly as those who called travyn martin a martyr.

>>34300181
>So you're saying it's literally impossible to come to different conclusions than you if they used the same sources of information you do?

There is a level of subjectivity given any information, but if you're saying Trump has never once been humble in his life, you might as well call him literally Hitler

>I guess we'll have to end that point there

Just remember in the future, difference between their and they're

>Because border security is there when you try to come in legally, people who pay for smugglers are mostly intentionally avoiding coming in legally because they have illegal intentions and don't want to get caught by border security.

So you're saying the majority of illegals are over staying their visas? That sounds ludicrous

>So then Trump should have appealed to have a different judge, that is possible.

Is it?

>You're the one that's backpeddling. Ie: going from "the media is lying" to "I understand the confusion and shitstorm that followed".

The media lied, taking advantage of and twisting what he actually said, causing a shit storm. Your willingness to believe the media at all costs is rather pathetic

>>34300201
What is humble, to you then, fuckwad?

>>34300285
>having or showing a modest or low estimate of one's own importance.

HOLY SHIT TRUMP GOT CALLED A RACIST

IS HE GOING TO BE OKAY

>>34300304
How is having your driver stop your limo and confront an assaulter not "having or showing a modest or low estimate of one's own importance." If he didn't know humility he woukd have kept on driving

Some more Trump being humble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPOvePioFF0&list=LLq0sqfranDphblg25AkuDvw&index=5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5qTk5MVRTI

>>34300274
>There is a level of subjectivity given any information, but if you're saying Trump has never once been humble in his life, you might as well call him literally Hitler
I said he's not humble in general, not that there was never ever a single instance of him being humble.

>So you're saying the majority of illegals are over staying their visas? That sounds ludicrous
Yes. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/424879/visa-overstays-todays-immigration-crisis-mark-krikorian
Fuck, it says non ASCII text isn't allowed so I can't paste the relevant quote.

>Is it?
It is, and I want a credible source that this judge is La Raza. I googled it, and the websites that reported it are mostly blogs.

>The media lied, taking advantage of and twisting what he actually said, causing a shit storm. Your willingness to believe the media at all costs is rather pathetic
In the context of everything else Trump has said and done, I believe it's simply the most likely explanation that Trump doesn't like Mexicans, and that comment was him accidentally failing to hide it.

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>>34300354
>first 40 seconds of the video and Trump is already tooting his own horn

>>34300362
>I said he's not humble in general, not that there was never ever a single instance of him being humble.

How well do you know the man that you can make such a grand assumption?

>>34300385
>recognizing your strengths means you can't be humble

O I am laffin. You know it's projection on your part, right? You're saying you can't be humble

>>34300450
>How well do you know the man that you can make such a grand assumption?
He broadcasts his life on Twitter. It's not hard to know what he's like by listening to what he says all the fucking time.

>>recognizing your strengths means you can't be humble
He didn't recognize his strengths in a humble way.

>O I am laffin. You know it's projection on your part, right? You're saying you can't be humble
No, I'm saying that promoting yourself when it's not necessary isn't something humble people do.

>>34300489
I can grand assumptions can be made from your posts on 4chan then lmao

>He didn't recognize his strengths in a humble way.

That's like your opinion, man.

>No, I'm saying that promoting yourself when it's not necessary isn't something humble people do.

It is when you're making a video and you've successfully branded yourself as well as being a billionaire and people want to know how you did it.

But you know what, I don't give a fuck. Humble people don't do what Trump has done.

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>>34300539
>I can grand assumptions can be made from your posts on 4chan then lmao
You don't even know for sure who I am in this thread, you could be arguing with like 20 different people. The point of being anonymous is that we have no way of having making assumptions based on peoples personalities.

>That's like your opinion, man.
Shit cop out.

>It is when you're making a video and you've successfully branded yourself as well as being a billionaire and people want to know how you did it.
There's a difference between, "I said in my book" and "I said in my book, which sold quite well by the way". One of them is humble, the other is not. You're clearly drunk off of Trump's semen.

>But you know what, I don't give a fuck. Humble people don't do what Trump has done.
It's like we've reached the final stage of this comic. "I don't care if he's not humble, humble people don't do what Trump did"

what the FUCK are you dumb niggers talking about

>>34300539
>Humble people don't do what Trump has done
Trick the poor and uneducated into thinking he's their lord and savoir when he's simply another puppet of rampant capitalism that has destroyed the American middle class?

>>34299617
You are a really, really sad person. That's all.