I am surrounded...

>>34178797
Are you any different though? And why does it matter?

>>34178959
I'm just like them, I'm just more self-aware. But at the root of my mind I am just as instinctual as they are and it fills me with shame for being a slave to my whims.

>>34178797
keep sitting on the sidelines and thinking youre superior. youre not. i used to do that and now im so ashamed of myself i cant bring myself to live. youll learn. i pray for you that its not too late.

and just so you know the higher ups misinform and warp people to retard progress because the only rational outcome is a push for something tried and proven impossible.

telepathy is possible telepathy is soon
we will discover its secrets and all secrets thereafter
but it is dangerous the most dangerous of all to every human progress because it is a direct enemy of pride which destroys everything so easily
this is the stakes of omniscience vs. miserable secrets
now you know the endgame i hope you divest yourself of egoism immediately

>>34179014
I'm a spectator whether I participate or not. I could never understand things they way they do.

>>34179000
But what's so shameful about it? We as a species require emotion to drive us to do the things that result in our survival. The pursuit of pleasure is just a tool to get us do things. We're imperfect of course, but we can change, which is pretty incredible.

You seem like you just need a purpose, some sort of goal to give you meaning and a deeper satisfaction.

>>34178797
what is "everything we've stood for" that we are annihilating? if you look at the progression of society, the majority of people have always wanted stability, comfort and nothing more. most people never do anything to aid the supposed progress of mankind so why do you care if they are pawns when they don't seem to care themselves?

what is progress? what should the purpose of society or life be, in an ideal world? what is it that you think humanity should be working toward? what would make you feel less hollow?

>>34179147
toughen up. its a crime for me to say that but surely theres more hope for you than me.

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You aren't alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdAN0o3oqB8

>>34179152
Because these feelings, which derive from the consciousness we evolved to have, are just a survival mechanism to keep us perpetuating ourselves, and as consequence suffering, Suffering without end. Wast upon waste. And for what? So that some idiot can think he has a goal, a purpose in life? A person really that naive and uncritical who believes they have found a positive truth and meaning which was never really there in the first place has to have the whole endless cycle plays out in order for this person to indulge this collective fantasy? No, it's fucking selfish.

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I feel the same way OP, granted I choose not to be a slave to my desires. Sex? I won't have sex until I marry a woman and I'm 20 yrs old. Why? Because once I taste it once I will only crave more of it, and my mind will be preoccupied with sex so I'll stop doing the things I actually want to do and chase it. Also why I'm on day 125 of nofap.

Drugs? What a waste of time, we only get older and drugs make it happen quicker. Normies value their looks? Well they're throwing it out the window when they binge drink and puke the next morning.

Almost everything my peers do seems to be very hollow and chasing a life of instant gratification is not only expensive but utterly meaningless if done to the excess that they take it to. It's ok every once in a while if done properly and minimizing future regret.

Rise above them OP. Find a hobby that you can become passionate about , and do it better than anyone else. Read books, learn, become wealthy, become ridiculously smart. Do something with your life and your wisdom. My passion is electronics and electric skateboards. What's YOURS

>>34178797
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix,
angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night,
who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of cold-water flats floating across the tops of cities contemplating jazz,
who bared their brains to Heaven under the El and saw Mohammedan angels staggering on tenement roofs illuminated,
who passed through universities with radiant cool eyes hallucinating Arkansas and Blake-light tragedy among the scholars of war,
who were expelled from the academies for crazy & publishing obscene odes on the windows of the skull,
who cowered in unshaven rooms in underwear, burning their money in wastebaskets and listening to the Terror through the wall
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>>34178797

you sound like a pseudointellecutal edgelord tb100%h

>>34179324
Oh the sanctimony dripping off this post.

>>34179000

No you're not. You're just more obnoxious. There's far better people out there than you now. The majority of them in fact. But you dont see it because you want to feel like you're "better." Cops patrolling dangerous streets. Paramedics saving lives. Doctors researching cures for cancer.

And you think these people don't have existential crises? You think the security guard working two shitty jobs for 20 years to support his family, his kids in college, is a "dancing monkey" that only wants to fulfill his barest desires?

Get over yourself.
Your problem is poor self control and no discipline and your projecting that onto everyone else.

>>34179000
>claiming to be ashamed of your nature (which you're not responsible for being born with)
>being ashamed of anything desu
Please realize your viewpoint is not unique; it's a common illness among secretly arrogant, shy young men. Feeling alienated from your peers, you project your negative feelings onto "THE ORGANIZED MACHINE OF SLAUGHTER KNOWN AS THE FIRST WORLD". You probably "relate to" preachy, self-pitying whiners like Pink Floyd who decry the "MORAL DEPRAVITY" of this "UTTERLY MEANINGLESS" life.
Newsflash: The world is not as bad as you've convinced yourself it is. Your life is what's bad. Your life clearly sucks. Socially separated from "normies" you wish you could connect with, you rationalize the fact that you're missing out on the simple pleasures of life (e.g. sex, which you are obviously not having) by generalizing them all as "self-destructive", "suicidal".
Repeat: your life is what sucks. You Need a Lifestyle Change. ASAP. I don't know who you are so I don't know what you like. That's your job to find out. So what if there's no intrinsic fucking "Meaning of Life"? Instead of focusing your potentially great intellectual energies on browsing /r9k/ and decrying "The Plight of the Modern World" (which doesn't exist outside your bitter, pleasure-deprived mind), find something you'd love to do and work towards achieving it. Get in physical and mental shape. Your life will get better if you take these steps instead of wallowing in despair, I promise.

Btw, I know you won't do it, you're probably feeling angry and sensitive right now, but just think about what I've said. I know what it's like 'cause I've been in your place.

>>34179531
why don't you explain yourself instead of patting the surface of a little brain fart you just had

>>34179000
I've always felt the same as you, I wonder who shares my worldview whenever I meet eyes with the waves of strangers I pass in life. I'm apathetic to a lot.

>>34179526
This is fucking beautiful. You have been muted for 2 seconds, because your comment was not original.

>>34179324
>I won't have sex until I marry a woman and I'm 20 yrs old. Why? Because once I taste it once I will only crave more of it, and my mind will be preoccupied with sex so I'll stop

Kek whatever makes you sleep at night

>>34179300
>00
checkem
also
TLDR

>>34179706
Oooh now you're being defense. I'm saying your self righteousness is laughable.

>>34179658
Well put anon. You get my kudos.

>>34179734
it makes perfect sense if you think about it. how often do you think about sex? I'd imagine a lot given that you most likely fap, are a healthy male, and may have had sex or not in your life. My thoughts are almost never about sex, because I haven't had it and don't fap and after a while you stop feeling like a crazed monkey itching to get his fix. I still get morning wood so i's not a testosterone issue. Think of how much freer your mind would be if those thoughts didn't intrude every so often anon.

>>34178797
I hope you are saving that badly written drivel somewhere OP

Look back at in about 1 or 2 years and try not to cringe hard at yourself.

>>34179669
Have you ever considered that some people gain no pleasure from those things?

>>34179669
I've never seen so much projecting in one statement.

>>34179804
Testosterone has little to do with morning wood. That is all.

>>34179834
>Find something you'd love to do and work towards achieving it
That's what I said. I didn't specify anything. If you're trying to say there is literally nothing you'd like to do in this godforsaken universe, you're lying or have mental issues.

>>34179870

actually it has a WHOLE lot to do with morning wood. Also dihydrotestosterone. If these two are not at healthy levels you will not experience morning wood. get your facts straight homie

>>34179804
What are you doing with your life that is so important that you can't spare like 15 minutes a day to fap?

Also Sex and Intimacy with another human being is well worth the little time and effort you have to put into it, because it's a basic human need and helps you to form bonds and live a healthier happier life.

>>34179669
but its actually bad as he imagines.
you should just stop giving fuck instead of deluding yourself.

>>34179922

fapping creates complacency. it is a coping mechanism used to a fill a void of lonliness in one's life, the lack of intimacy created through sex.

I'm not saying be like me, you can have sex if you find a gf worth caring for and if she legit loves you. I'm waiting till marriage because I like self deprivation, it's a great motivator to achieve things in life. What I'm getting at is meaningless sex that people chase to fill their void and get rid of their craving. That's when it is not worth it.

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>>34179526
Another One for the Crowd

>>34179658
If a security guard actually had an existential crisis he would realize his family is meaningless so he wouldn't be working "two shitty jobs for 20 years to support his family"

Most people live for purely emotional reasons, such as altruism, hedonism and faith.

Anyone who looks at things from a purely rational perspective would not spend their lives slaving away at some job.

>>34179658
>And you think these people don't have existential crises? You think the security guard working two shitty jobs for 20 years to support his family, his kids in college, is a "dancing monkey" that only wants to fulfill his barest desires?
existential crises are interesting. if a person goes from questioning the significance of his own existence to working a couple of shitty jobs to support his children, then how is he not a dancing monkey, desperate to fulfill his most basic desire, which is to prove that his existence is meaningful? in one template of existence (his own and many other people's), he's an admirable man who works toward a goal that matters in the greater scheme. i can understand that perspective. in another template of existence, he's filling up the very limited time he has before death with a lot of stress and worry to give himself an illusion of purpose that doesn't actually exist. i can understand this perspective too.

>rot away
>humans are like trash now
>litter in the
>fate

spooked desu

i am isolated

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>>34178797
Taht fell when to inteligent to shed teenage nihilism and strat forging me own happiness and meaning

>>34179922
>happiness
>health
>important

Tell us more dancing monkey

>>34178797
Buddy I know you think your writing is elegant and profound but you come across as really pretentious and most of it doesn't flow well. Cramming together as many words and phrases as possible does not equal good writing.

>>34180181
I could tell you more you pretentious permavirgin, but you wouldn't get it anyway

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>>34180034
holy shit I was actually kinda listening before this post, now im laughing.

Actually bother reading Nietzsche n shit before you post "uuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh existencialisom" on a thai comic strip forum, you lazy ass.

>>34180179
how have you started creating your own happiness and meaning?

and stop with the "nihilism is for teenagers" thing because every adult outside of the internet knows it's not true. in fact, your statement that a man has to create a meaning of his own is a testament to the idea that nihilistic thinking is actually correct (with the added development that a person probably can't live without meaning and must use his own will to create it if he intends to survive).

instead of acting superior, with a snarky insult hit and run, you could explain what is meaningful to you and why. or not. maybe attempting to aidi your fellow man is not as meaningful to you as shitting on your fellow man.

Hahahahaha holy shit this is the worst pseudo-philosophical special snowflake autism post ive seen in a while

Youre not special.

>>34180034
>Anyone who looks at things from a purely rational perspective
why would you choose this perspective if pure rationality leads to your own demise? why choose to look at life in such a way that you lose all meaning and, consequently, all motivation to do anything but sit around feeling empty or depressed?

>>34180253
Dance monkey dance!

>>34179766
it's one paragraph you slob

>>34180535
Why would you choose a perspective where you wake up each day and lie to yourself?

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>>34178797
This might be the most fitting one

>>34179658
Go easy on him man. It's his first existential crisis.

>>34180671
because it results in being able to move on with your life and the majority of people can live their lies so thoroughly that they rarely question whatever lies they have committed to and are capable of feeling genuinely fulfilled by their chosen lifestyle.

you didn't answer my question though.

as an added question, i'll ask why you wouldn't kill yourself if you truly believe that life has no meaning or purpose (or that you, personally have no meaning or purpose)? this is not rhetorical. i want to hear your response. from a purely logical perspective, a person who has no use for life and no qualms about ending it should commit suicide.

>>34180751
>It's his first existential crisis.
how did you overcome your first existential crisis? what did you settle on?

Dude just watch annymay

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>>34178797
I could definitely see this on some macbook that has "bring me the horizon" and "my chemical romance" stickers on the back

>>34180692
Is that Pikabitch?

Man, that tripfag hasn't shit up the place sonce 2007. Good riddance.

>>34178797
I'm boiling potatoes only to chop and fry them at 7am after being hungover awake since 3.
What a wonderful life.
Beat that robot cunts.

>>34180548
You Probably think Fight Club is the "deepest movie" you ever saw

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last one I swear you guise

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>>34178797
>rot away at the very essence of their spirit

>clogging the pistons of the motor of the world

>whimpering lambs at the mercy of the shepherd

>separating the green paper from your wallet

>while you chase after the goose known as satisfaction

Thanks for the Keks OP. I honestly can't stop laughing this shit is comedy gold.

>>34180802
There is no difference between living and dying. Both states of existence have no purpose. Why should I bother killing myself when it will not add meaning nor remove meaning? I do question some days I should embrace death. But then it is coming for me. Why bother to pull the trigger when time will do it for me?

And to answer your question,
I choose to this path because when I listen to the lies and act like everyone else does, I feel a deep intense hatred for myself. I have become a liar. I would prefer to feel that life is utterly meaninglesss than to believe that I am lying to myself. Even if it leads to emptiness and depression. The despair I felt when has been alleviated since accepting that life and death have no purpose. Albeit I feel emptiness, but that itself is preferable to an intense self-loathing.

>>34181573
Get into Existentialism m8

>>34181573
so what you're saying is that your motivation in pursuing a logic based perspective is entirely motivated by how it makes you feel.

how does it make you feel to acknowledge that there is no rational reason to pursue pure rationality?

>>34181573
>There is no difference between living and dying. Both states of existence have no purpose. Why should I bother killing myself when it will not add meaning nor remove meaning? I do question some days I should embrace death. But then it is coming for me. Why bother to pull the trigger when time will do it for me?
assuming that your emptiness equates to some form of suffering or even unpleasantness, then suicide would serve a purpose. avoiding negative feelings is enough motivation to dictate your perspective on life, so i would think that it should also factor into your choice of whether to live at all. so why pull the trigger? same reason you choose to seek truth and logic- so you don't have to feel bad.

>>34181731
There is no reason to do anything nor feel anything. No intrinsic. I feel as though we are going in around in circles.

>>34181955
Is emptiness a suffering or unpleasantness? Unpleasantness seems a tad bit strong a word for what I go through on a normal day. It is more a detached toleration with spats of depression that comes and go.Though I have not felt that depression in some time. When I first became what I am, I felt a sadness. A loss. But now I have a daily nothingness. I sleep. I eat. I feel nothing. what can death do? It is nothing as well. And it will take me when it does.

>>34178797
I don't come here very often but is r9k always this euphoric?

>>34182459
>There is no reason to do anything nor feel anything.
you said the opposite in your earlier post. you said that you chose a particular path because it helps you avoid self-loathing and this is preferable to you despite the emptiness you feel. this means that you are averse to particular feelings and you are making your choices based on avoiding experience of those feelings. this implies that there is some meaning behind your choices.

>what can death do? It is nothing as well.
even if the lack of meaning itself does not cause you suffering, life is full of opportunities for suffering (emotional or, at the very least, physical pain) caused by other things. suicide would end the possibility of suffering completely and living ensures suffering at some point. if you are choosing not to kill yourself to avoid suffering, then it means you find some value in living, that will outweigh the inevitable suffering. it seems to me that you value something about conscious experience because you choose not to discard it even though you know you will suffer because of it.

i just don't buy it when people claim to be settled on the idea that there is no value in life but also say "death will take me when it does." if you truly felt that there was no value in conscious experience, then you would not put in the effort to work, study, speak to other people. you would stop eating and let death take you. living isn't something that just happens naturally. death is what naturally happens if you stop valuing life completely. how do you feel about that?

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>>34182617
It is now Newfag

>>34182742
Those were my reasons behind choosing this path. Irrational impulses to avoid pain that I have since given up and even forgotten. It was the push that sent me into this state. Rather like the branch that falls into the lake. A fall with cause, effect, but no meaning. So here I lay in a state of emptiness and nothingness. I understand the factors that led to my fall, and so too do I understand the purposelessness of it.

> life is full of opportunities for suffering >suicide would end the possibility of suffering completely and living ensures suffering at some point.
I do not feel a fear of the pain nor do I have a belief in the certainty of that suffering will come my way. I know this nothingness and it continues. If it were to change, perhaps my state of nothingness would change. But now this is what I know.

There have been many days where I have not eaten and some when I have eaten a lot all at once. My random actions have kept me in a state of conscious nothingness. But if I were to expire, it would be all the same.

My parents are the only people who interact with me. Some days I ignore them. Some I do not. Why? There is no reason nor purpose.

I harbor no preference towards the conscious or unconscious experience. I feel the same with my eyes open and closed. Why should I change? There is no reason to. I feel nothing either way.