Since theres no other place to discuss this

I'm a Dxm junkie

>>34162423
>I'd like to take this stuff for the rest of my life
You can't, it'll fry your reward centers and become cardiotoxic in longer periods. Just stop taking them until you need them for work, there are much worse withdrawals than stimulants.

was addicted to opiates this time last year. I quit mostly in May, but I still take suboxone recreationally from time to time. my tolerance isn't nowhere near what it used to be, so $20 for a strip that gets me high 4 times is a sweet deal. I do miss the heavier opiates though, like dilaudid or heroin. those were some fun times but I can't go back, it damn near killed me.

aside from that I smoke weed pretty regularly, and will take the occasional benzo. Went through a coke phase last year but haven't touched it in months. the quality has gone way down where I'm at

>>34162618
It depends on the dose. There's no evidence that lower doses of amphetamines (under like 40mg/day) cause actual non-reversible brain damage.

>>34162618
>there are much worse withdrawals than stimulants
It isn't even the withdrawal that's the problem. If you stop taking Adderall you probably won't have any "actual" withdrawal, not counting the crash. It's just difficult to mentally stop yourself from taking it if you have some at hand, and that isn't really something that goes away.

>>34162618
I've tried both modafinil and Adderall over a period of two years while in college.
Here my consensus

Modafinil
effects are similar to Adderall but it is much weaker. Effects usually last 5 hours. There is no crash and burn unlike Adderall either. Threat of getting addicted is minimal. Can stop whenever you eant if it's not working for you.

Adderall
was away stronger. When people say this shit helps you get shit done, they aren't fucking around. Much more damaging than modafinil though. Can become addicted fast if you take it frequently. Burn and crash fucking sucks. You'll feel like shit when the effects wear off or until you get some more or get over it may

I'm an acid head. Unfortunately tolerance sucks and I can't do it a bunch. Probably have some 2 weekends from now and by then tolerance will be good cause I just ate some. I'm also partial to opiates.

>>34165696
what is the comedown from acid like ?

>>34166472
Slow and extremely smooth. You don't feel bad on acid comedowns and usually the next day you feel like a brand new person. Different poster but I've taken LSD about 15 times the last year. It's just usually hard to get a good nights sleep after taking acid since the duration is so long.

>>34166529
what if you smoked weed with lsd , would that make the trip really bad or much better ?

>>34166567
Weed intensifies and synergises with LSD, the visuals can completely fill your field of vision when you combine moderate doses of both.

>>34166586
so in a way , weed can intensify the trip , kinda like dmt even though dmt will always be more powerful

>>34166604
Yeah, LSD is so powerful you will never feel the weed, just a much stronger trip.

>>34166636
tell me more about lsd

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This winter break i had no job or school so i smoked weed everyday
Went on a trip(not acid trip)with friends, i was stoned all the time and made trip very fun
Tolerance went up quick since i used weed to waste time
I fill cigarettes with weed and public smoke. Theyre very fun
Im sure you can't built up physical dependency on weed but you cab still definitely addicted

>>34164663
sounds like dosage is a problem here too. i know people who take 5-10mgs of adder all a day when they need to and they're very healthy in all other respects of their life. taking 30-60mgs of it daily is what i did and it just made for a quicker burnout rate.

as much as people wanna believe medicine is evil i don't think adderall would be that bad if people would actually not try to take dosing into their own hands and instead talk to a psychiatrist about it

>>34166742
It's great for breaking bad habits and solving problems but the thing is it can be so overwhelming you don't want to do it again for a long time. It's hard to use recreationally since you think so much on it, it actually exhausts you by the end of the day. And there's always the chance that you get overhwhelmed and have a bad/anxious trip if you dose too high.

I've done doses high enough to just completely wipe me where I forgot who I was for 8 hours pretty much, thinking I was everyone who has ever lived. Those kind of trips always feel like weeks or months have passed because the time dilation can get very intense.

I'm thinking of picking up Alpha Brain if I can find some at a store near me.

Do you guys have experience with this? I'm just trying to clear up my brain fog which makes it hard to focus on boring things.

>>34166831
any advice for taking it ?

>>34162423
>who here /drugaddicted/? I used to work really hard and began taking modafinil and adderall every day to be the best wagecuck I could be.
What was your job? I use adderall 2-3x per week at work and it helps me a lot without being something I depend on.

>>34167043
what is adderall like anon ?

>>34167017
Dose around 75-200 ug for the first time. Take on a day where you have 12+ hours of no responsibilities, and also only if you are at the tip top of your mental state. The first couple of hours can be rough since some people experience intense come-up anxiety, but you have to remember to just go with it, nothing bad can happen to you as long as you keep a clear head. Don't expect to be able to pretend you aren't tripping on your first times if there are other people home.

Go into it with pre-planned goals and activities. Never take it if you are feeling bad or really depressed since you are probably going to have a bad trip. Though bad trips can be good since they can be so bad you will be extremely motivated after to fix your shit.

>>34166831
Hasn't it been shown empirically that while you believe on the trip you're solving problems and thinking creatively, subjects who were observed having these experiences didn't show increased ability or creativity?

Taking acid to get things done sounds like a really bad idea to me. And yes I've done acid a handful of times. The most striking thing to me is that it turned off my analytical brain and made me very tuned into my surroundings and sensation.

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These are the places to go, dear fellow wagecuck druggie:

https://boards.420chan.org/stim/
https://boards.420chan.org/qq/

Much love, good luck.

>>34167086
Don't listen to this guy. What the fuck are you smoking, man? Bad trips are not good motivators. That's like saying a man beating his wife should be encouraged because it motivates her to behave. It may be true but there's better ways to go about it.

>>34167163
No no I'm not talking about getting things done, more like clear things you want to go through during your trip. It can be rather boring if you have nothing to do during your trip.

I'm pretty sure LSD has therapeutical value since you can deal with emotions and connect to people easier while on it, at least that's how it goes for me. It's helped me get over my shitty past.

>>34167219
Just saying that even if you have a bad trip good can come off of it. Of course it's best to avoid one altogether, they can even be traumatic.

I get addicted to whatever I try. Prob because it calms for my severe depression/anxiety. Fucking love valium, never gives me problems/side-effects. Can't get my hands on much, so a lot of alcohol.

>>34167163
You're very right.

True for all kinds of /psy/ except DMT (but both positive and negative effects may manifest long after the trip).

With /stim/ like OP's taking you're HELLUVA lot more productive for the first 24h though, unless you have ADD/ADHD. I myself turn very effective but unimaginative on over-the-counter /stim/ so the increased activity just isn't worth the loss of humor and life quality.

>>34167086
what is it truly like , do you just see colors or is it more intense ?

>>34162423
I've been waiting for my modafinil to come in since I ordered on December 20, fucking 25 days so far. But I did choose 21 day shipping so I'm not really surprised it's taking so long. On modup you get a 33% discount for bitcoin so I was able to get 120 tabs + pay shipping and still have about $6 left over out of $100.

Should be coming in any day now and I can't wait to try it.

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>>34166742
Makes you appreciate life, do LSD if you wish to quit drugs for good with some addictions like tobacco mushrooms containing psilocybin will do the trick, best way would be to micro-dose it around .1 - .5g max. crushed to pow-pow in a gelatine pill for a month also micro-doses makes you very smart and thoughtful about everything with insane focus.

LSD works the same just around 100x stronger so you can get lost in trippin' and forget why you did took it in the first place. I would recommend a dose of 30 - 100 ug blotter pieces a shot, most I did was 140 ug of 280 ug limited Dalailamas Silk Road edtion blotters and it was fucking beautiful, 1/5th of blotter so around 55 ug was optimal mild experience and liked it better in my opinion.

Confirming that weed intensifies the trip, don't over do it tho you might get a bad trip & trust me you don't want to have a bad trip on shrooms not even mentioning LSD - it can wreck you for a year or more PTSD style.
Always try to minimize chances of getting one by being with good friends with positive attitudes and in beautiful outdoor places, don't stay inside it makes you feel trapped since lysergic acid and psilocybin opens your natural self so being close to nature is advised. that's about it ask about anything before I leave thread though you got 5 min. Godspeed

>>34167052
Some people say adderall is like really strong coffee and I have to disagree. I like using this analogy: Imagine you're in a moderately well-lit and spacious room. Drinking a couple coffees or energy drinks turns up the dimmer switch in the room so that the lights are brighter. Taking adderall does also turn up the lights to higher than usual but it also turns on a bunch of lights you didn't even know were there. It allows you to see the whole house lit up at once, even in nooks and crannies you didn't even realize you could get to.

More concretely, you get very engaged in what you're doing, your thoughts are quick and effortless, you don't get tired, you see connections you wouldn't otherwise realize, your working memory is significantly improved, it's very easy to switch back and forth between different contexts, you often get very emotional and talkative.

I get a prescription from my psychiatrist for adderall and it's done wonders for my mild ADD and depression - related cognitive impairments. Despite its abuse potential, taking moderate doses as prescribed is considered quite safe by
the psychiatry community.

>>34167219
I get what you're saying but I actually encourage bad LSD trips, based on my own subjective experience. More insightful and theraputic than years and years of many kinds of therpy for me.

@OP: LSD and Peyote can be harsh on the psysche but they're not as hard on the phyisical being as other /psy/s. Start with one blotter, paper, and roll with whatever happens. Do this in a secure and cozy environment - very important.

(Don't fuck around with psilocybibn, DMT, PCP or any kind of deliriant though, pretty please, for your 1st time!)

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>>34166760
It's like coffee - it controls you as much as you let it so if you decide to quit you won't smoke again but trying to drop something without proper assertive attitude almost always ends up doing it again. I quit smoking weed cold turkey year ago and smokes month ago haven't craved for it after week from the last smoke for both cases, dropping drinking is even easier - just don't and it doesn't affect you if you're not seriously addicted already *I was an alcoholic since 16 yo* so trust me, I know what I'm saying - also hint: weed helps quitting drinking .

>>34167337
So much more.

It is beyond mere words.

More like FEELING the entire spectrum while hearing and tasting and seeing it at once, layers upon layers upon layers of reality...

Friendly advice: You're not ready unless you're willing to die. No, you don't actually die... the body is fine... but the ego, "You", may die, so that only the self, the "I", remain (if even that).

>>34167637
>Friendly advice: You're not ready unless you're willing to die. No, you don't actually die... the body is fine... but the ego, "You", may die, so that only the self, the "I", remain (if even that).

One time I had an ego death so intense an hour into the come-up that I got diarrhea from anxiety. I was on 250ug, it wasn't fun until I was able to realize who I am.

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>>34166825
Gotta agree with you. I take 10mg at most, eat plenty while I'm on it, stay hydrated, and haven't had a shitty comedown since I used to take like 30mg for purely recreational purposes.

10mg is also enough that it's easier to stay focused, where a higher dose can end up getting you focused on porn, music downloads, etc. (in my experience)

>>34167494
Your subjective experiences are not good sources of advice to give to someone knowing basically nothing about their psyche and their general background.

Some people can smoke cigarettes a pack a day all thrir life and never get cancer, emphysema, or heart disease. If you asked a person in this situation whether they would recommend smoking cigarettes their personal experiences would support it, even though hundreds of thousands die every year from the habit.

A bad trip for many people could mean significant trauma, especially if you already have severe mental illess but not only in these situations.

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>>34167637

I had taken a shot of 80 ug LSD one night and after I was done trippin' in the morning around 7 am I walked out, it was somewhere around december and when I've noticed my home surroundings *especially steep mountains everywhere around as I live in gorge that lies in big mountain range* .

My eyes watered and I've almost lost it, I simply was overwhelmed by noticing it truly for the first time how beautiful world is around me and it's so close just stood there in awe with my dear friend looking for 30 min at glorious sunset above these majestic peaks. One of the most important moments of my life to this day.

>>34162423
Not addicted but I start every morning by chasing my prescribed 30mg Adderall with a red bull. I got a scrip for 2x a day but I only ever take the one in the morning.

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Don't mix alcohol with modafinil if you won't enjoy having heart palpitations for over 5h straight.

>>34162423
> 2017
> never heard of 420chan/stims

>>34167829
You are 100% correct in that; My experience does not equate to anyone's experience.

I do not recommend /psy/ at all to anyone "just because", but when they do show an interest I provide my own views on the subject. Therefore the recommended safety measures and most of all the word SUBJECTIVE.

Maybe I think higher of my fellow anons than you? You're 100% correct but what you just write is self-evident imho.

Not arguing with you, I whole-heartedly agree... just saying that you don't start asking the questions w/o being well on your way to turning psychonaut already and we are not the ppl to say "DON'T!!1", we can at most give advice on how. The wifebeater comparison ITT is just silly; Psychedelics don't cause physical harm to anyone.

It helped ME with MY severe mental illness and deep emotional problems during my late teens.

>>34162423
Some people get prescriptions of that and sell it for like 7-10 a pill

I'd say that money is better than the shitty buzz

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>>34167841
That made me very happy to read.
Have a (You), fellow psychonaut!
Hold onto DEM FEELS.
Much warmth from the icy cold North.

>>34167763
Shitty trip! XD

Sorry, had to... too easy to pass up.

Thnx for a good laugh, and know that you're not alone; A friend found me crylaughing nude in the bathroom the 1st time I "died". Still not sure if I wanted to pee/poo/shower or just felt more comfy nekkid but I chose to not wear close for the entirety of the remaining trip and wrapped myself in a comfy blanket toga and took a forest walk instead.

>>34166567
please do not do this, it can cause a bad trip. if you ever get anxious or paranoid on weed it can ruin it. not to mention that weed is mentally clouding while acid is mentally sharpening so that effect ruins it. i've done it. not worth.

what should i do while tripping on acid , draw ?

>>34162423
Seriously just give it a week between uses

>>34168573
Explore nature, listen to music, the like

>>34164663
I really dont get how people get addicted. I've regularly used meth as a recreational and practical stimulant. I've yet to experience any crashes or overwhelming desire to do it.

I find alcohol is a fantastic synergist with it and "flips the switch" from functional to recreational

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>>34168573
dance histericaly while listening to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6BmbyIxyA8

>>34168702
>>34168658
does lsd make you spiritual and hippy ish ?

>>34168769
Not necessarily. I get very analytical.

>>34168989
explain what you mean , im really confused ?

Should I try eth-lad or al-lad?

>>34169034
It makes me take a very detached and calculating view of the world.

>>34169067
AL-LAD

Supposed to be LSD's "funner" side, as in it's not mindfucky.

>>34169067
what are the effects like after an lsd trip , just tiredness ?

>>34168573
I like going for a walk then writing about my experiences and trying to draw what I saw
Rinse and repeat until I stop peaking and then I just chill and listen to music while watching patters on the ceiling

Are there stims you can buy online?

>>34169190
Can't post any links here, but I would suggest using the psychonautwiki.

Your best bet is using Research Chemicals unless you want the real thing. In that case, yolo it and browse the danknet.

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>>34169190
>live in a time when you can buy heroin off the internet
>wonder if you can buy stims online
>>34169121
Pretty much. Your brain is working in overdrive for over 12-16hrs and then you crash afterwards, at least in my experience
Sometimes I'll go through the next day seeing some after effects, nothing major though. Don't really know how to describe it, but I usually see things that just "look" trippy but actually don't look any different. I played new super mario with a friend the day after my first lsd trip and I kept getting sidetracked looking at different things in the game and would just run off the edge every once in a while

After that then you go back to normal and it's like nothing happened, except for any realizations you may have had or things like that.

>>34169298
so do you think it would be ok to go into work the day after

>>34169572
I always feel 100% the next day. You'll need to take the acid early in the day if you want to get enough sleep though.

>>34169572
Yeah you'd probably be fine, just maybe not 100%
Just speaking from my experience. And as >>34169595 said you'd have to take it extra early to get any sleep. I took it at 1 in the afternoon the first time an wasn't able to go to sleep til about 3 in the morning

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So.. which one to buy?

>>34167385
This sounds pretty nice

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I'm court ordered to take haloperidol injections for schizophrenia I don't have

It makes me feel terrible but I don't have a choice in the matter, I should have been refusing it.

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>>34162423
Ive been taking like 200-350mg of tramadol about 2 or more times a week. either that or 20-30mg of hydrocodone

ive been using it since october roughly but more regularly lately

How can i tell if im starting to get addicted what are the warning signs

right now im more tempted to do it consecutively even though i used it last night too. i usually buy it but my mom has a perscription for it and ive thought about grabbing a couple of hers out of the medicine cabinet. not because i need a fix but because theres nothing else to really do here


>>34170688
the mental health industry is shit
why do they make you take it or why do they think you are schizo

>>34171102
what is tramadol

>>34167385
so is there a comedown ?

>>34171102
People will tell you to stop now because you'll end up on the needle.

>>34171188
i wonder what heroin is really like

>>34171206
Releases so much dopamine that your brain will get rewired in a way that you are only motivated to get more heroin. That's how good it feels.

>>34170688
Huh, I take 20mg of abilify for Schizophrenia I also don't have. It's fucking dumb. I should stop.

It makes me really restless. It's curbed by me taking Vyvanse, but I wouldn't mind not taking those meds all together.

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>>34171148
Its a snnthetic opiate painkiller with SNRI /properties if you take like 6 or 7 of them its like being high on norco but with a more euphoric talkativeness about it.

>>34171188
naw i wont ever touch heroin although i want to once at least in my life. preferably when im really old and dont have much else to loose
im tempted to try it and be like eh just once and stick with willpower but i know several people that said that and ended up strung out

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So what is the BEST psychedelic drug , lsd ?

>>34171752
That really depends on the person. My personal favorite is LSD, but others prefer DMT or even weed because of shorter length or intensity. The 2C-x series is a strong competitor since they offer psychedelia + MDMA like lovey dovey feelings.

>>34170095
>modafinil on amazon
What a wonderful world. How good is it? It's not some Chinese bullshit fake pill is it?

>>34171795
why is lsd your favorite tho ?

>>34171795

... hello ?
are you there ?

IS this legit?

https://www.afinilexpress.com/buy-modafinil-online-modalert-200

>>34172764
idk bro , look for reviews

>>34172764
>>34172049
>>34172788
Is fake shit common?

>>34173560
yeah sadly , try them and find out for yourself or LOOK FOR REVIEWS