Physician Career Discussion Thread

>It's a lot of hard work
>robots
>hard work
kek

>>34119746
hate the site of blood, don't want to deal with the existential horror of fiddling with someone's life etc

>>34119759
You're not even a robot, how the fuck you you know what we're like? Some tumblreddit ebin screenshots and reblogged "omg yas THIS" posts?

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>becoming a physician through the army
>1/3rd the work of doing it civilian side
>get paid to go to school
>no bills

>>34119746
>300k
and still not enough to buy a house where I fucking live

sigh.

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>>34119759
It's possible to turn yourself around and gain work ethic. I nearly flunked out of school my first semester of freshman year out of laziness., took a medical leave, came back and made a 4.0 this semester. It's definitely doable for any robot I think.

>>34119746
Because I am not a homosexual.

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>>34119763
There's lots of specialties that don't involve much gore anon. Psychiatry, radiology, radiation oncology to name a few. Just steer clear of surgery and you'll be fine.

>>34119746
I have a phobia of hospitals and sick people

>>34119746
As a robot, I wouldn't be able to handle bedside manner stuff, or dealing with all sorts of people, including those who for any number of reasons are very hard to communicate with, be it mental barriers, physical barriers, or language barriers.

Plus, I'm poor and old, so I can't really afford to go to medical school. It would be an extremely risky investment.

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>>34119837
That's engineers that are homosexuals, at least according to /sci/ memes.

>>34119806
Where do you live? Vancouver? Just move somewhere not infested with Chinese.

>>34120083
San Francisco
organsoregano

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>>34120126
Well, salaries for doctors I'm sure are better in the Bay Area in proportion to the higher living costs. Though it would probably be a good idea to move to a lower cost of living area if you want to maximize income. In the southeast, midwest, and rural areas especially doctors can make a killing because of low cost of living and high demand.

>>34119746
Im too stupid to finish any kind of study like that and bear a responsibility. I barely passed my useless degree which is a social science. There is no way I would be able to even get into it and no way I would like doing it.

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>>34120382
Intelligence isn't as important to becoming a doctor as it is to something like physics or mathematics; it's mostly hard work. Med school is mostly rote memorization, which anybody can do.

There's a saying: "There are smart doctors and stupid doctors, but no lazy doctors."

I'm sure you're more than smart enough to do it, you just need to work harder.

>>34120490
It doesnt matter now anon. In this slavic post communistic shithole I wont get enough money to go back to study it anyway. Its not achievable even if I wanted it to be.

>>34119746
> slaving away countless hours a week getting no sleep helping stupid normies too retarded to take care of their health
> making a lot of money that you won't be able to enjoy only spending it on extravagant bullshit that will never make you happy.
> Or giving it all away to your stacy slut wife while she fucks chads because you don't have the time energy or health to have sex.
> working for jews
No thank you, maybe if the job hours were reasonable (40 hours a week not almost twice as much) and women made for kind, caring, loving wives. Plus the hospitals weren't filled with retards raping societies resources due to their bullshit. Then it would be worth it. However the way society is today; decaying like a corpse, I'll pass and I don't give a rat's ass about anyone's opinion.
-someone who was forced to work in the medical field due to their selfish bitch single mother.

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robots are not responsible
a doctor is a job with the most responsibility needed in the entire world you deal with real peoples lives you cant be fooling around

>>34119746
Everyone on this board is stupid they'd be lucky to get a job mopping floors in a hospital

>>34120546
I'm in the same boat, but in another shithole.

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>>34120546
Where do you live? I really want to study abroad in Eastern Europe for some reason. I know it's got problems but I think I'd like it a lot.

>>34119746
4 years of undergrad + 4 years of med school + 2 years of grueling residency working 80 hours a week + 2-4 years of further residency

all so you can start making 150-250k a year when you're 30 years old

or you can do pharmacy and optometry and make 100 k when you're 25/26, work less hours and live a stress free life

the true red pill

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>>34120792
Yea, for work-life balance while still making a decent income pharmacy or nursing is a much better deal. But do you really want to be a glorified retailcuck working at walgreens over a doctor? Don't you care about your ego?

Also how much you work is very much dependent on your chosen specialty. If you go neurosurgery then yea of course you're going to spend a lot of your early working life in the hospital. But dermatology, for instance, has the same schedule as pretty much any 9-5 job while still making the big bux.

>>34120896
not sacrificing the prime of my youth dedicated to getting a job where I have to save niggers and trash

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>>34120700
That's why you have malpractice insurance. Something like 40% of doctors have been sued for malpractice, but it's rarely career ending unless you really screw up big.

>>34120764
You wouldnt. its depressing. The only good thing for you would be that its a lot cheaper but most people are basically slaves and poor struggling to survive. And dont study here. We have very poor education because the good material that we built during socialist era was all destroyed and now we are very far away from the norms of other western universities.

I live in Slovakia. No point in going here if you dont want cheap stuff, cheap land or hire slaves for your cheap management. Maybe if yo uwant a slav girlfriend or whatever otherwise if you are born here you are pretty much fucked if you are not exceptional or know someone important.

>>34119790
>being deported to some shit skins country to tend the wounded after medical school

Don't forget that part

>>34120986
You volunteer for humanitarian missions, and can really only do it out of Hawaii, DC, and I believe Maryland.

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>>34120918
It's all about perspective. I don't really see it as sacrificing my youth, what would I be doing anyway if I just graduated from undergrad and went to work straight away? I'd just be another disenchanted college grad working in a soulless 9-5 cubicle job making 50k a year. Might as well spend my 20's working toward a brighter future so that I can fully enjoy my 30's, 40's and beyond.

Because I'm becoming an engineer, it's easier and faster.
IMO it has bigger possibilities, but the average is obviously a lot lower than the avg doctor.
I have photographic memory so I get high grades with minimal work. This is very useful for medical studies.
I always thought I would somehow distinguish myself (cuz im so special).. I guess we'll see that once I graduate?

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>>34119790
You forgot to mention:
>Not as much choice in terms of residency, the only options you have are what the military needs at the time, so you may end up having to work for the rest of your career in a specialty that you don't even like
>Greatly reduced pay unless your an internist or family med
>Less freedom, may be stuck in a fort in the middle of Oklahoma

Other than that there's a lot of good benefits to being a physician in the military, but unless you're in a lower paid specialty you will end up losing out on a lot of money despite the free tuition.

>>34120764
>>34120979
I study medicine in Slovakia and there's a good number of foreign students. The reason for studying here for most, if not all of them, is that they couldn't get into their local medical universities - it's always hard for the locals to get in - but the slovak English language programs only have like 150% as many applicants as there are spaces, it's very easy to get in.

Medicine is pretty fucking awful though and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Unless you have autismo levels of interest in medicine, vast majority of the shit you must learn won't be interesting in the slightest, and indeed there's a large amount of shit that you must learn, and it takes a huge amount of time and effort. Being a doctor will make women wet when you actually are one, nobody's going to give a shit that you're attending medicine, so you get all kinds of bonuses like
>the first vagina you've seen was on a corpse
>the first living vagina was on a living corpse
>chatting up old ladies in the hospital all day erryday
>said old ladies being the only women to hit on you

>>34119746
>300k starting salary
lol you're dreaming. Nobody makes 300k as a starting salary.

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>>34121154
I thought a lot about becoming an engineer before deciding on pursuing medicine. What turned me off of it is that, while you start off with a pretty high salary, it caps out at low six-figures pretty quickly, so there's less room to grow than there is with some sort of business job like finance. The problem with the business route though is obviously that you're competing with a million other frat chads and staceys who have connections from their ivy league school and daddy = very difficult for a robot or even normie to break into. Getting into medicine at least is a meritocracy based on your grades and MCAT scores, not as much nepotism.

You can definitely get into business and management with an engineering background though and do really well; I just don't want to deal with networking bullshit.

>>34119788
Shut the fuck up redhit

>>34119746
Or you could just become a plumber and make roughly the same salary over lifetime.

>>34121287
Because in STEM, outside of medicine, you're not just supposed to simply stay working for a company if you want big bux. You need to either pursue your business or use your skills in innovation to create something worthwhile.

Jobs cap out, opportunities do not. The whole deal with engineering is the ability to create and design. If you just work for a company your whole life you will never achieve high salary.

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>>34121269
It's highly dependent on specialty, but they absolutely do. Bear in mind that doctors have to go through four years of undergrad, four years of med school, and four years of residency. The reward for all that time studying is a hefty salary, else nobody would do it.

>>34119746
200k, not 300k salary. And doctors fall under the worst possible tax bracket, so you're giving 30% of that to Uncle Sam. Takes years to work salary up to 300k but it feels good when you do it.

Also, going into business gets more money and bitches. Med school is insanely hard to get into these days and doctors aren't always confident people. Many kill themselves from stess compared to other professions. Doctor doesn't even guarantee a woman. There are chad doctors that you must compete with who will dominate the workplace. Don't fucking forget that.

From the looks of it, you're still in undergrad.

>>34119746
Because if you had the intelligence and motivation to become a doctor, you wouldn't be here in the first place.

>>34121290
>she thinks the reddit word is wordfiltered

Classic tumblrina

>>34121353
>intelligence
topkek. You just need a very good memory, not intelligence.

>>34119746
>hardworking robot

Does not compute

>>34121398
Get a load of this dumb fuck. He thinks a good memory and intelligence don't go hand in hand.

https://www.ncnp.org/journal-of-medicine/1601-unfortunately-doctors-are-pretty-good-at-suicide.html

at least youll learn how to kill yourself without fucking it up. this career is right up robot's alley tbqh

>>34119811
Maybe if you're neurotypical it is
Otherwise you're fucked by more than laziness

>>34121287
I'm taking many finance cources along with programming. ATM I'm in france but will probably try to find a job in the USA or other more prosperous country.
Salary u get is pretty much what you can sell yourself for.
I'm planning on getting enough salary to open my own whatever. Who knows.

>>34121445
Going by the sort of people that attend medicine, apparently not.

Yeah I bet it's great being a doctor. Being underpaid, thinking you wasted your early adulthood with biology books instead of getting fucking wasted with sluts.

And then of course, having to live through day to day life. Take public transport to the hospital, come on in and begin your day by reassembling little Jimmy because he got run over by a truck this morning on the way to school. After you're elbow deep in kid juice his good parents call you a retard for not making their kid walk after being run over, however thanking God for keeping him alive.

Then you go on with your day, have a coffee, eat your sandwich. Go elbow deep again, but instead in a man who thought it was a good idea to bathe in gasoline and have a smoke. Guy is crispy and yet you have to bind him back together.

After bandaging good ol' Joe for his wounds you come home, kiss your wife goodnight and go to sleep, because you been at the hospital all day long. Your wife is not happy about it and has been fucking the hippie next door neighbor behind you. Unbeknownst to both of them, she is pregnant with a retard child that she will hide from you long enough for abortion to no longer be moral.

And you people say that wagecucking is slavery. Slavery is when you dedicate your life to your masters but isn't it slavery when you dedicate you life to save the lives of others?

At least slaves felt good about themselves.

>>34121531
I'm sure none of them are a match to your superior intellect but trust me, none of them are dumb

>>34119746
I got a 7mil inheritance so I'm Gucci.

>>34121346
See >>34121345

Also, depends what kind of business. Don't think accountants are drowning in bitches, that's mostly finance chads and execs that got to where they are because of nepotism and connections. If you don't have those things, it's an uphill battle to get to that sort of place.

Brazilian med student here. Feel free to ask me anything.

>>34121716
How close is Brazil from collapsing ?

>>34121716
Federal?

>>34121716
do you poo in loo like the indians?

>>34121716
When a favela thug gets shot, what are the techniques to pretend you are trying to help him live when in facts you just hope he dies ?

>>34121776
Toilets exist everywhere else in the world but India

>>34121726
It's slowly getting better.

>>34121760
Yes. But I'm not going to tell you which.

>>34121776
No, I don't live in a favela.

>>34121805
You can't actually do that, but I've heard that some cops intentionally take their sweet time to bring thugs to the hospital.

>>34119746
Best joke.

Graduating here in 5 months and hell no. No way that's what you're going to experience. Let me tell you a closer to Earth experience.

You will have to give up most of your private life. Most workers, their job done, can simply go home and not give a shit. You won't. The studying never ends. Those used to suffering will not ask for assistance unless their life is in threat, and normies will treat you as their slave, their minds sometimes even faking real disease symptoms or magnifying them (Anxiety is a first world disease and get ready to see lots of it)

You have no choice about your patient. The worst and the best, those whom you hate and those you love you will have to treat as long as you're wearing a white coat. Hell, the law states that in accidents, you have to assist.

Respected? HAHAHAHAHAHA

People will judge you for your clothing, your gf, your lack of one, people who'll not trust you if you lack a beard, if you don't believe in god or if you do...

Also, this job is about the most beautiful and disgusting things of mankind. You will see the worst, see people at their weakest, see children diseased and miserable, blood, urine and faeces even have a couple patients throw up on you or have to stick a finger up their ass.

You will be alone. Alone in your studies, alone in your responsibilities, burdened with knowledge and experiences the average normie would not even comprehend.

Think about it while you still can. But if, regardless of ungrateful assholes, knowing you'll be alone among idiots, you have a stoic enough soul to take pride in a job well done, a face with a smile because they are no longer suffering, a mother's joy. If you wish to truly understand the humans, become a doctor.

>>34121716
Luc is that you?

>>34121867
Can you send me 5 dollars and 48 cents for a frozen pizza?

4th year medfag here. most of your stuff is true but chicks don't worship you (they just use you to get betabux) and neither do any nurses or most patients.

>>34121921
If I had the spare money i would but im poor lmao

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Yes, yes

Let me just give up 8 years of my fucking life for a piece of paper that says I have experience in this field and no others.

All that crippling debt too.

While I'm here making triple K figures off Day Trading and Apartment Locating, all this at such a young age.

Looks like you fell for the college meme.

>>34119746
OP I don't know what you're on but it has to be some heavy shit if you think robots/cyborgs/whatever have a snowballs chance in hell of achieving that.


Besides, life as a doctor can be extremely stressful and definitely consuming. If you don't have a passion for it you'll be in for a rough ride.

>>34121955
Fuuuuck that's right you don't make 300k yet. I'm really hungry that's why

>>34121867
Hmm, would you say being a pharmacist is the next best thing?

>>34121894
How did you know? Don't disclosure my identity like that

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>tfw attended medical school
>badly wanted to become a doctor
>smart, good grades
>couldn't cope with the stress
>started eating like 7000 calories a day
>gained like 80lbs, became 300lbs
>can't cope with the work and the expectation
>one day have a mental breakdown
>went to the library of the school
>took dozens of journal articles about obesity
>filmed myself eating them and rubbing my belly
>sent CD's to every hospital in the area
>information leaked down, people found out and made fun of me
>I quit

I still fear going to hospital for my weight

>>34121716
How many hundreds of people did you have to beat in the entrance exam to get in?


>>34122008
*Disclose
Disgraceful English for a federal med student

>>34122037
>took dozens of journal articles about obesity
>>filmed myself eating them and rubbing my belly
>>sent CD's to every hospital in the area
u wat mate?

>>34122000
>Trips checked
are people actually this poor on here ?

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>>34119746
I'm graduating next year

Ask me anything.

>>34121716
>Brazil
I know one Brazil med student on steam holy shit he is such a faggot

>>34122087
You thought your studies were stressful ?
Wait till you work in a hospital.
Enjoy your nolife

>>34122104
Is he mildly autistic and full of himself? They all seem to be

>>34122122
>>Wait till you work in a hospital.
I already give shifts after classes m8. I don't get paid tho.

>Enjoy your nolife
I already am

>>34122131
Yeah, thinks he is pure and has a goat fetish

Who the hell found out who I am?
>>34122056
I'm not sure, but I'd say the number is in the hundreds,even though most students that choose medicine aren't really competing with the best.
And that was the autocorrect fault, I swear.

>>34122104
It's probably me, hey!

>>34122008
Ayyyy

I know because I've known you from somewhere where we shared common interests some time ago. Send a throwaway email or something and I'll let you know who, although odds are you know who.

>>34120126
SF is where all the Asians and WASPs lives, basically your competition as a doctor. Move to like rural texas

>>34122008
>>34122173
remember the donkey?

>>34122172
You know you can just look at how many people took the vestibular the year you got in and report it back to me don't you
Give me a proper answer

My cousin wants to try med at UNB but there seems to be literally thousands of people trying to get in there every semester so I'm not hopeful

>>34121936
>and neither do any nurses
Nope, nurses are all over my dick, lad

>>34120036
As an engineer that hit too close to home -- I'm even worse off than that pic ;_;
>wizard
>anime is life
>$50k
>60hr work week

>>34119746
Is it too late to be a doctor at 32? I have a bachelor's

>>34122173
[email protected]

>>34122220
No desu

>>34122238
I'm not going to check since I'm too lazy for that. The PAS program is the best option if your cousin wants to enter UnB. That's what I did at least.

>>34122299
No, but it's just sad when you see people over 35 graduating

>>34122269
>$50k
>60hr work week

You joking? Or entry level

>>34122308
>I'm not going to check since I'm too lazy for that.


NICE WORK ETHIC HERE PAL
How old are you? I think my cousin is 17

>>34122318
Why? I like the older students
I feel like they're taking life where they want to take it instead of just winging it

>>34119746
>wanting to help normafags
no

In between my 4th and 5th exam for this winter lads. only 4 more to go

>>34122372
Because they'll be so helpless when they start work. It literally takes YEARS after graduating to become a fully functional doctor.
How old will they be when they become independent physicians? 40? 45? What about their families? Can they support a wife and kids with internship salary?

>>34122356
>tfw lazy and underachiever
I'm 21. I could help your cousin with their studies, wink wink.

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>>34119746
Doctor is literally reserved for chad and chad only. Do you really think a robot has the ambition, intelligence, charisma, and social skill required to be a doctor? Hell no.

I am 3 years into residency (I live in TX, not some foreign student like earlier in the thread).

Would NOT do this again, I wish every day of my life that I never applied to medical school. I'd give anything to jump timelines and go to grad school or just start working after college.

My life is better now than it was during med school, or as an intern, but fuck me medicine is AWFUL.

People ask me to give advice to their friends or college-age kids about going to med school, I tell them to not go. If you think I'm just salty, polls of doctors show over 92% would tell their own family members to -not- go into medicine altogether.

>>34119746
how does on get into and afford med school

>>34122459
Did I say my cousin is a girl somewhere? Because yeah it's a girl

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>>34122463
>charisma
>social skill
>intelligence

>>34122426
>. It literally takes YEARS after graduating to become a fully functional doctor.

Then you're a shitty doctor, you should be ready after residential

>>34122426
When people go to school when they're older I think they go with more of a plan so I doubt most of them don't have their supporting themselves bit figured out
Maybe I'm optimistic

>>34122463
>Do you really think a robot has the ambition, intelligence, charisma, and social skill required to be a doctor?
Living proof right here, buddy.

>>34122514
Residency happens after graduation. And it takes years. That's what I mean when I say you'll be 40 by the time you finish it.

>>34122463
i have the unbridled charisma of a chipotle enema, still in

>>34122463
All you need are grades, you can become a radiologist or pathologist.

>>34122500
O-oh, I had no idea, but I guess I could genuinely help her. It would be incredibly awkward though.

>>34122308
sent in a very original way

>>34120036
>lawyers
>180k starting
maybe if you like working at least 10 hours a day every day including weekends and holidays, doing nothing but reading mindless documents about corporate mergers and tax laws. Then in 3 years you either quit, get laid off, or commit suicide, after which you either get a job working as an in-house lawyer for 120k or become a real estate agent or something. and all of that is if you get into Yale, Harvard, or Stanford. Otherwise enjoy poverty-tier PD work or never getting a job, even if you graduate from other T14 schools.

MS3 here on surgery rotation.

DO NOT GO TO MED SCHOOL.

That is all you need to know.

I wish I became a cop. Then I could boss niggers around all day rather than the other way around.

>>34122553

40 is still 25-30 years away from retirement, you really expect people to wageslave if they're capable of something more?

5th semster here
Planning on becoming an anesthesist so I can still be a useless piece of shit

>>34122037
>"mental breakdown"
>calmy set up a camera, uploaded it to computer, and sent it to a dozen hospitals

Am I the only one to find this fishy? I'm no shrink, but I'll always thought that mental breakdowns involve a person being overcome with pathos and being unable think logical complexs thoughts. Your video preporation and the content of it being sorta conventional enough to be ironically funny.

>>34122681
>an anesthesist so I can still be a useless piece of shit
How so? It's literally the hardest thing out there. 5th year here, giving shifts at intensive care and giving anesthesia

>>34122681
>Planning on becoming an anesthesist

Lol, have fun with CRNAs taking all your $$$ and jobs.

>becoming a doctor for money and status instead of a desire to help others and relieve suffering

Biggest mistake you could ever make.

>>34122730
>nurses taking doctors' jobs
Yeah that's not how it works, buddeh

>>34122779

Got some bad news for you bud.

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/how-bad-is-the-crna-problem-will-mds-always-have-a-job.1033991/

There is no "ROAD to happiness" anymore. It's just O and D. Radiology programs blew up over the last 15 years and now you can get a telerad job sitting in your basement reading CXRs for $1 a pop trying to compete with every doc in the country working for some MD mill contractor company. And A is fucked.

My best mate from childhood's a doctor. Biggest cunt I've ever met.

>>34122838
Once people start dying as a result of mistakes, everything will come to it's rightful place. A doctor will always have a job.

>>34122948

Go ask attendings in the department at your school about CRNAs affecting the job market. Your salary would have been around $300k a few years ago, if you're in med school now you can expect to make as much as IM (not hospitalist) or FM after residency and work almost as many hours.

>Once people start dying as a result of mistakes

Are you retarded, do you know how many americans die each year from medical mistakes in the hospital? The CDC says it is the #3 cause of overall death int he USA.

>>34123078
>assuming I'm american
There's your mistake.

>The CDC says it is the #3 cause of overall death int he USA.
Then your doctors are beyond shit.

>>34123110

Oh, you're not in the US? I thought you were studying to be an actual doctor, lmao. Never mind. Foreign medical education is a joke.

>>34123119
>Foreign medical education is a joke.
>WAAAAAAAAAH NURSES ARE TAKING MY JOB
really made me think there

>>34119746
If your life was good enough that you aren't so depressed that you managed education you are a normie and should get off of this board

>>34122490
good grades, MCAT, student loans...

You can somewhat circumvent the good grades and MCAT part if you're a minority due to affirmative action

>Want to become a doctor for 300K starting
>Ace medical school
>Internship and residency
>Decide to specialize as an open heart surgeon
>New technology makes open heart surgery nearly obsolete right when I'm about to start practicing

Happened to a friend of a friend

>>34119746
>just become a doctor guys lol :))

>>34121861
>You can't actually do that
Sure you can!
t. plantonista do P.A.

>>34119746
>want to become a forensic pathologist more than anything
>last time I was in college I dropped out because of crippling mental illness
>excelled in school as a kid, excelled in college before breaking down
>after nearly a decade of therapy, excel at my job
>still terrified that it will happen again
what chance do I fucking have

>>34123632
>take oath
>don't follow it

That's pretty bad.

>>34119746
but anon i am.
im off to uni next year and looking to chase my dream of being a pioneer surgeon

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>>34123851
What kind of surgeon?
Also
>uni
I wish we had other country's systems of med school admission here in the States. It's insane and truly sadistic the amount of bullshit they put you through here just to get in. Would be very nice to skip all the extraneous undergrad stuff and go into it straight from high school, or whatever your equivalent of high school is.

If you're in the US or Canada there's no point going into medicine over something like pharmacy or optometry imo.

The extra stress and work isn't worth it, plus you have to be a super normie to get into med school.

>>34119746

I'm a doctor and I'm a KV. Girls don't care. Still can't get a single response in online dating.

Otherwise it's good work, with good pay, and I've seen more tits and vaginas than I care to so there's that.

>>34124683
What are the advantages of pharmacy over med school?

>>34124907
100k-120k salary working 35-40h, good tax bracket, not as much debt, nowhere near as much stress in school, stress free job, immediate can start working at 25-26 years of age rather than having to do residencies until you're 30 like in medicine.

To be a doctor, you really have to be a hardcore normie who likes helping people out, you also basically have to be a drone who follows basic protocol in treating diseases. Some fields like dermatology are chill af and pay a LOT but those are near impossible to get into.

>>34124958
Thank you, I really appreciate the insight pharmabro

>>34124958
>drone who follows basic protocol

That's not really accurate. 90% of my job as a GP isn't following any kind of protocol. It's trying to figure out what's wrong with people, explain to them what's wrong, tell them what the treatment is, and then convince them I'm correct.

It's a pain in the ass a lot of the time since people don't actually want to take care of their health or do the right thing. They just want to sit around eating chips all day on the couch and then complain when their backs start hurting from degeneration because now they think they need MRI's and percocets or whatever nonsense.

I enjoy my job overall. But it's a very people-oriented job which feels like a constant combination of sales, marketing, and detective work.

>>34125068
>explain to them what's wrong, tell them what the treatment is, and then convince them I'm correct.
aka following the textbook

>>34125159

Not really. What you're talking about with "following the textbook" is maybe 10-20% of what I do. eg. Diabetes/hypertension/cardiac drugs. The rest is interpersonal interaction, rapport building, motivational interviewing, and trying to convince people to do certain things.

>>34125242
i.e. things you're taught from a textbook

there's a reason why mindless drones with no innovation like the chinese or indians love becoming doctors, it's because they like/are forced to work hard since really it just takes dedication to become a doctor rather than actual intelligence

that's why there are tons of roastie whores who are otherwise dumbasses that also become doctors

>>34125373
>interpersonal interaction, rapport building, motivational interviewing, and trying to convince people to do certain things

Those weren't in any of the textbooks I studied in med school. That's the social part of medicine that some of us are good at and some of us are bad at. Depends mostly on your innate people skills.

Don't really care if being a doctor takes intelligence or not. Not important. It's an okay job if you like people and are good with people.

If you're bad with people you'll struggle constantly.

Also love your /pol/ schtick. I'm sure you're a super genius with an IQ of 150 who is just too smart to go to school and actually get a job.

What's a good job in your mind? What are you going to do when you grow up?

>>34125474
good work hours, stress free, 6 figures

in the healthcare fields these would be optometry and pharmacy

finance and engineering at the best if you can beat 60% of your class

also, to be a doctor you have to be a tremendous normie, so leave

>>34119746
>literal 300k starting salary once you're an attending
After 4 years of university & 4 years of residency, it's about helping people the money is just compensation
>get to be the top dog in the hospital
Not even close unless you're a department head or your hospital is a rural piece of shit and you're the only doctor in 100 miles

>>34125530

Yeah optometry is better of the two since you can set your hours.

Problem with finance and engineering is both will leave you with very long hours and no flexibility.

I can work as few as 30 hours a week and get paid >200K. It's very stressful though.

I'm not a normie. I'm a wizard.

>>34119746
Totally useless if you're ugly. The handsome Chad doctors will be banging all the hot Stacy doctors and nurses. Robots always lose.

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>>34119746

Im 26 years old with no degree or anything. I live with my mom. How would I be able to move away from my mom and pursue becoming a doctor? (I live in US) I would like to be one but I am kind of bad at school and don't know how to pass Calculus which is a prerequisite.

>>34125614

Doctor here.

Can verify.

The guys in med school and residency who were 6'+ and/or handsome got ridiculously hot girls constantly.

It made no difference for me.

It's a multiplier effect. Being a doctor maybe adds 20-30% to your total attractiveness. If you're already a 7/10 total package, you can go up to a 9/10 total rating.

If you're a 3/10, you go up to a 4/10 and still get nothing.

>>34125555
>it's about helping people the money is just compensation
hahahahahahahhaahaha

>>34125645
I think this is the most depressing thing I've ever read on this board. Fuck.

>>34125715

I still can't get a single reply in online dating. But I haven't posted a picture of me in my scrubs yet which I've heard can help.

The one benefit of being a doctor is you make a lot of money, so you can buy sugar babies. Personally I don't like that idea though so I haven't done it.

I just spend my weekends and free time on 4chan like I have for the past 9 years whining and complaining.

Maybe you'll do better. Women SAY they like doctors. But I think that only applies if you've already met their physcial requirements which I can't do.

>>34125657
But it is.
You're going to be doing huge hours and lots of study for ok money hoping you get into the specialty you want which requires another 4 or so years of specializing in before you can become a consultant.

If you just cared about money you'd be in business.

>>34125783

how did you study being so sexually frustrated? I think its a reason why I can't study properly and still in community college at 26

>>34125657
it is about helping people, the amount of money you can make if you go into something like finance but put in the effort as if you're in medicine is a lot more

>>34124683

Pharmacy will become obsolete once they perfect medicine dispensing machinery

Because I'm insane and would be a hazard to patients.

>>34125865
Be a doctor in a pyche ward

>>34125885
Psychiatry is a pseudo-science.

>>34121061
Disenchanted college grad working a soulless 9-5 cubicle job making 45k a year here, it's pretty awful

>>34125843

Studying keeps you mentally busy and is a distraction from sexual frustration. Just fap and get back to work.

I'm most depressed when i"m not busy.

>>34121061
>Might as well spend my 20's working toward a brighter future

And then reality and life sets in

>>34120792
>pharmacy
>stress free
pick one

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>>34126064
Would would you differently if you could go back in time do you think?

>>34126249
relative to medicine it's a walk in the park

>>34126064

I'm looking for a job like that now and can't even find one, fuck everything

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>>34125636
Well, if you have money, then
4 years of undergrad
>get perfect grades (above 3.7), especially in your science classes, those are the most important
>one year of bio, one year of gen chem, one year of orgo chem, one year of physics, and one year of calculus are the prereqs, your major doesn't matter.
>Make above a 500 on the MCAT
>Do extracurricular and volunteer shit
>Apply to an MD or DO school and get accepted

As far as calculus goes, the key is practice problems. Don't just read over your notes, calculus is literally do practice problems to get an A: the class.

>>34125068
rph here, at least you bother to talk to your patients
the masses of poo in loo doctors in my area don't give a shit and send pts to me that literally don't even know what they're being treated for or what drugs they're picking up

>>34126270
Smoke less weed.

>>34126370
It's definitely better than retail or whatever but it's still wage cuck tier.

>>34126334
the stress in medicine is a result of improving people's health and sometimes literally saving their lives. at least that can be interpreted as rewarding if you're into that kinda shit. in pharmacy, its just a result of normie and nigger customers chimping out about being poor and not getting all their shit for free.

>>34126463

Well I'm Indian. I don't see what that has to do with it.

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You guys should be dentists instead
There are A LOT of good looking women in Dentistry school
Plus you make bank and you have more free time than a doctor

>>34121867

My main goal in life is to be able to comprehend the simple human brain. My plans to do that are to become a doctor and silently observe, and to travel and question the natives. I know that last part sounds weird, but my curiosity knows no bounds

>>34121716

How many botched butt surgeries do you see a week?