communism thread

What were these stats like before capitalism? Were people healthier and longer lived?

>>34077554
the new right likes nationalism
we don't like capitalism either

>>34077554
Ok I'm a leftist but you CRINGY autists make us look bad.
Fuck off.

>>34077554
get off /r9k/
>>>/pol/

>>34077721
National Socialism is pretty much Capitalism senpai.
Hitler had a huge boner for the free market.

>>34077554
>letting the government do the same thing

You realize we can just regulate business without screeching autistically about "muh capitalism," right?

>>34077770

If it's all capitalism then why do they even have the word socialism in there, just call it National Capitalism

>>34077991
Socialism isn't about big gubbament or regulating business, it's about giving workers control of their workplaces.

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>>34077554
On what basis are you using to claim "porky" never worked hard, sacrificed anything or exuded an adequate knowledge of production to be in the position they're in?

>>34077554
I literally don't know a single person being pursued by debt collectors. Calling bullshit.

>>34077770
>Hitler had a huge boner for the free market

He did?

>>34077770
Why didn't he implement it then?

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>tfw the only system where a population of proletariat do not suffer daily is primitive tribalism
>tfw communism and capitalism are both spooks that will crush your average peasant (IE: Me, you, and everyone you know).
>tfw if you can't afford to not sell your labor or time, you're a peasant

When did you grow up and realize you're slave?

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>>34077610
not so much. pic related

>>34077721
both of these are reasons why the new right is retarded

>>34077770
yeah thats why he nationalized so many businesses and instituted state control over as much as he could, right?

>>34078071
Socialism can't exist without government repression, because it denies the right of people to enter into contracts on terms they choose (voluntary employment) and for people to have control of their own property (ownership of the means of production)

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>>34078071
In practice, all the soviet system does is create guilds. Ugly, bureaucratic guilds that restrict competition and drive up prices to secure their livelihoods above that of the community.

Nothing prevents these guilds from hiking the price on medicine, chopping down forests, polluting the atmosphere. Nothing entices these guilds to give food or housing equitably.

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>>34077721
The "new right" is supporting a mandate that will eventually increase the cost of products both foreign and domestic. Add on top of that the inflation that will come as a result of adding even more to the deficit than your Democratic opponent would have without compensating for it through adequate cuts, growth or economic reform and we sure do have us a GREAT nation on the horizon.

I don't care too much about radical political ideologies anymore. My /pol/ phase burnt me out. Though, critically looking at it, overtime I realized, what has the white race done for me? All the Chad's and Stacie's will still be Chad's and Stacie's in a white ethnostate, I will still be a robot. Also, leftism makes sense from a logical perspective. Things are fucked, somebody is screwing us over. The people screwing us over can either be Jews, reptiles, freemasons, etc. Or, the people screwing us over can just be the richfags who have been screwing people over for years. I think the last one is a safer bet. Worker owned means of production sounds great, and things like labour unions have drastically improved the quality of living. So, if a commie revolution were taking place, I would fight on the side of the proletariat. Also /pol/ is full of twitter Normies now and that made me see how bad it really is.

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Pick related should be mandatory reading for any would be Communists. Don't forget what they'll do in the name of "workers rights"

>>34077610
Of course it was worse before capitalism. Each mode of production is better than the one before it but that doesn't mean you can't criticize them. Feudalism was better than slave society, but it was still shit. And capitalism is better than feudalism. I'm not criticizing it, but it's open to criticism.

>>34077554
Daily reminder that there is literally nothing wrong with capitalism

>>34077554
what makes you think communism works im sure it worked all those other times.

>>34078258
Leftism makes sense until you realize that its a means to an end for people hellbent on absolute power.

>>34077554
you cant be a neet under communism.
you yourself don't want communism.

saged, kys.

>>34078336
It's the party for the wagecuck

>>34077770
I dont think Hitler cared much for free market was he was pro capitalism. He claimed to believe in private property and "ruthless competitiom". Of course it doesn't matter. Hitler drank water but I don't hate water.

>>34077554
Are we talking about communism or capitalism? It's hard to tell if 'porky' is referring to an avaricious capitalist, or an obese SJW.

>>34078304
That sounds counter-revolutionary you sick Kulak, 25 years Gulag.

>>34078258
The people screwing us over are us. The constituency, the citizen body, the general population that can't be assed to learn basic economic principles or pay attention to the cause-and-effect relationship of past policy decisions, yet have to power to vote and use that fundamental process of a representative democracy to enact policies that "sound good" and elect people that "say things that sound good."

>>34077770
>huge emphasis on social programs as well as maximum government influence in schools
Just because you don't get your precious free shit doesn't mean it was capitalism. Authoritarianism and Capitalism aren't the same thing.

>>34078367
>avaricious capitalist
>Obese SJW
Both will be weeded out through an authoritarian socialist state

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>>34077554

>PORKY LOL

Are you 14 or something? Is that why you don't understand basic concepts like "incentive to work hard" and "not being a thief"?

Communism has killed 90 Million people worldwide

>dude its easy to run the logistics of a business and I could totally do it even though I can barely stack some boxes!

very glad all you commie leaches are going to get your wageslave jobs stolen by a robot and then get gunned down in the street by robot police when you get uppity

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>>34078442
Yes, every nation that's enacted an authoritarian socialist state at some juncture now have no SJWs and no capitalists.

>implying the inability to feed and house people even though there's enough of both isn't because of logistics problems

>>34077770
>National Socialism is pretty much Capitalism

Except it isn't.