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>>396779
>QM Question
I prepare a new character's basic idea in my head a while before running the quest session.

>Player Question
There's two reasons for QMs to pose as players: to vote, to try to covertly railroad the players, which is shit; or to expose information because the players can't solve their shittily-written over-complex riddles, which is still shit but at least it isn't railroading.

>Bonus Question
A moral MC doing something immoral for no good reason, even if the players vote for it. Or the quest suddenly turning massively edgy with no warning.

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>>396779
>Player Question
Cheeky

I'm gonna ask the same thing as always when the mood for fantasy quest strikes me; Anyone seen the QM of Badge and Bullet? He promised a sequel

>>396779
Arc Trooper quest when?

Also what ever happened to Eagle Rising quest?

Daily reminder that the weebs who played with a railroading QM deserve to burn

>>396779
>Player Question
Don't care for it, takes away player agency.

>Bonus Question
Yes to both.

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>>392101
>>392101
>>392101
HGQ Continues!

Daily reminder that if you want money you should just make anons so thirst for your written cock that they'll offer to give money to a paetron for you so that you don't start engaging in denial play.

>>397033
> insulting a QM by saying he has fans

Really makes you think

>>397041
Less an insult and trying to get over the idea that that was something someone actually proposed to get their railroading hack of a QM to not drop their shit.

I mean, good on them that they can get fans that dedicated, I just find the very idea baffling and need to joke about it for everything to make sense again.

Spill the drama details fellas, I'm blind to all these references.

Is there any way to implement maids actively in a non-retarded way in regards to the Naruto-universe? Just a random question, of course.

>>397064

Pop on over to the You Awake in Westeros Quest and watch a pretty popular quest with some well written work go down in flames. Hard. And for good reason

>>397064
> QM ran quest based on Game of Thrones
> Shit caught fire really fast, it's been one of the top three threads probably consistently for the last week or so
> QM offered advice in a really railroady way, he didn't vote but offered advice as an anon multiple times and accidentally left the trip on the last time
> People fucking tore him up and he quit

>>397064
QM got caught playing his own quest try to force his opinions on people.

>>397069
Dude you can include maids anywhere. They aren't a crazy concept. Rich ninja family has maids. Boom done.

>>397077
Yeah, this quest burned down. Quick.

>>397077

He was definitely voting, follow the ID tags

>>397082
I understand that. But how does one make it interesting enough for a quest?

>>397100
No idea.

I am thinking about running a quest and I am not sure if my idea for combat is good or not

>>397100

Ninja Maid bodyguards? Maybe a handmaiden sort of character, you were raised with the daughter of a noble house as her constant companion and when she decided to go Shinobi you had to go too now you're her handmaiden/bodyguard

>>397121
Damn.

>>397132
Go ahead and tell us your plan, anon. >>397136
This is honestly a really good idea. I'll put it down in my future quest ideas.

>>397132
I'll hang around for ideas. Throw 'em out here.

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>>396714
Live!

>>397150
>>397159
Entering combat you roll twice with bonuses from your agility stat. First Roll is to attack and second is to dodge your enemies attack. You're enemy rolls the same and if their dodge is lower than your attack it hits and vice versa. IF you hit, you do your Strength stat in damage and get hit you take your enemies strength stat in damage.

>>397202
>opposed rolls
No. Bad. Stop.
Don't do that shit, ever.

>>397202
That's complicated for a quest on here. That seems more like a DnD type combat system.

>>397202
i think it could work better for tabletop, not so much on /qst/ because formatting issues among other things.

>>397209
>>397220
>>397224
What would work better? Any quest that have a good combat system that I should look at?

>>397234
I like roll under/roll over systems, kind of like Only War, but i may be partial since i've run a few 40k games lately. (Ignore if bad game/advice)

>>397234
Fight happens

Players roll for success

You can either take an average, or limit the number of rolls being taken into account and use the highest. For example,
>Roll 1d100, best of three

It's basic, but it works.

>>397234

Roll under or roll over both work, just make sure it's clear in your origin post. There's also the Roll three dice versus a set DC and the number of success/failures is based on how many of the rolls pass/fail the DC. I don't know the numbers behind it but it seems to be pretty balanced. Also know whether or not you want crit fails/successes but make sure the rules there are clear as well

>>397245
Yeah I think this is better than d20 because things are harder to achieve, yet it still not impossible.
Not to mention crits are more satisfying.

>>397077
Just checked it out.

Honestly while I've never run a quest before I could even kinda understand samefagging your own quest if it was really slow. Like voting once or twice for different things so that it looks like you have 4 players instead of 2 and encourage more readers. Hell, a few times a couple years I even samefagged a really slow quest myself (as player only) to encourage the QM a bit since it was getting like 1 voter during slow periods. Just to make it look active. That doesn't seem to be why the QM did it here since his quest seemed decently popular really.

Which is what really bothers me...why on earth did he want to railroad his players so badly to the point of making huge effortposts as anon trying to lead anons a certain direction? That's what I really find weird about it. What's the point of running a quest if you just want anons to follow what you tell them (anonymously) anyway?

>>397100
>>397140
Make 'em members of an intergalactic empire whose inside influence upon the palace royalty and their characters, alongside other maids and butlers, affect the wide-reaching cosmos? Maybe even Foundation style, or full on behind the scenes conspiracy style, the maids being the true rulers of the empire.

Actually, I'll store this idea for later, might I ever get to it.

>>397262
But read the thread, he was shilling for an idea that was already the path the collective was pretty much going for last night, but then this morning the namefags got on before everyone else to force their view on it

From what I interpret the posts it looks like a shitty attempt to get rid of them that backfired and killed it

>>397275
How ironic.

>>397240
>>397245
>>397255
>>397259
Thanks for all the advice. I think I will go for the roll 3d100 for successes or failures

>>397294
>3d100
Go for 1d100, best of 3 rolls or first 3. That way you have more players rolling. It makes the players work for it.

>>396779
So...that westeros quest just exposed in on itself.

>>397360
imploded? yup, sure did.

>>397364
Fuck auto correct. Which is a damn shame, I was rather enjoying reading it. That being said I kinda got an urge to try something like that but more based around some pre generated characters from that cyoa of Westeros. Maybe something like a doth raki ready to assume leadership of his khal, a wilding girl scavenging north of the wall and getting past it. Maybe a few Westeros characters as well, though I don't know if I am super good at making my settings come alive.

>>397390
Shit it is a damned shame, i liked it too. (and fuck autocorrect also). CYOA can be cool, i bet they almost write themselves. Maybe just use what the players put forth as part of the descriptions, some anons are damn good writers when they suggest stuff.

>>397390
as for settings coming alive, im sure it just takes a bit of practice writing descriptive language. I know it's one of my shortcomings when it comes to this sort of thing.

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Thanks for playing! See you in the next session at 17:00 CET tomorrow (Saturday)! Cheers.

>>397398
>>397390
Eh, after talking with a few people in the discord for the quest I'm feeling a lot better about the whole thing. Just gonna let Trick rehash my quest and play that, eventually run something else.

>>397390

When you say CYOA are you referring to a jpg image set up or having a thread where everyone chooses their characters and interact with each other. The first one is cool, I personally have never understood the second seems like a mess

>>397445
Velo. You uh, you wanna check your ID there?>>397275

>>397445
Velo why do you hate yourself so much?

>>397209
I think simple opposed rolls are the best mechanism for combat.

>>397445
>>397275
>>397077
>>397041
>>396951
Velo what the actual fuck.

You did it again. Pretending to be 'Another one of the anons™' and then revealing yourself.

>>397398
>>397423
>>397451
Like one of those .jogs with making your choice of adventure only it be limited to one player character or ones I created before hand to jump into things.

I've never understood how anything gets done in a timely manner when you have 16 different players going off at once.

That being said I feel like I could get away with describing things, I just need to work on setting a time and place to do it all in.

>>397529
Fuck, again? this guy is a piece of shit. Something about lost faith in the asshole.

I just rolled three consecutive rolls in a single quest of 99, 1, and 1.

>>396951
>>397445
>Insulting your own players, even the ones that wanted to stick with you after the shitstorm.

Wew lad.

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>>397445
PLEASE STOP

>>397584
haha fuck I'm so grateful we have IDs now

>>397445

Holy Jesus man, stop. Just stop. Step away from the keyboard and figure out how to stop pretending to be someone else to make yourself feel better.

>>397445
Just be yourself man. love yourself.

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Reminder that there I am doing a quest based off Shindol's Emergence and that today is your last chance to turn it from a pilot into a regular thing.

>>383215

>>397757
>Shindol's Emergence
I'll pass famalam.

>>397584

Someone needs to save these, and to go back and screencap the mess of the GoT thread

>>397812
Oh, my, yes. This must be saved for posterity. Other anons must see this and learn from it.

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>>389306
>>389306
Don't get the wrong idea, it's a quest about stickmen, not sticks
To make sure no one is late to the party, we're still on char creation. So far, we are a green stickman named Mr Gander Onzer
Anyone interested?

>>397904
>>397904
>>397904

I'm starting a new project called Relic Quest because I wanted to play with all the tags /qst/ has. Come join us if you're interested in fighting the forces of hell and becoming a hero of legend.

>QM Question

I start off with a general description, a rough idea of their personality and their general role in the story, then I make small adjustments to depending on the players' choices and preferences.

Starting a new project.

It's about waking up in Westeros.

>>396067

Come check out my thread 0.

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>Long as fuck quest
>No pdf/word

>>397445
Surely it must have been on purpose this time around, right? Repeating the same mistake right after, revealing yourself in the same damn post as saying you're 'feeling better about it', there's no way something so perfect isn't staged.

>>398059

Yep, totally staged, why that's such a perfect excuse it could only have come from ... VELO

>>398077
It was him, VELO!...?

>>398084

YES VELO the Many Tagged. Current estimates show that he comprises 50% of all /qst/ players and that number is quickly rising. He could be in your town, he could be your neighbor, why he could even be you. Get yourself screened for Velo-itis today!

>>398130
Fuck, I've never checked if I am VELO...but I never even read his quest, anon! Surely I can't be VELO?!

I won't be able to run Nerv Bridge Simulator next Tuesday- I'll try to run it in the weekend instead.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience, I know it's kinda anticlimactic to cut a combat right in the middle for two weeks.

>>398171

Hohoho a common question anon. While many thought the menace of Velo was contained when brave anons took it upon themselves to burn down the very quest they were enjoying even that drastic action could not stamp out the disease. It quickly jumped threads, infecting this very general for access to as many threads as possible. Now begins the long arduous process of verifying every. single. anon.

Starting with you! Prove you're not Velo

>>396779
>QM
Anything that contributes to the dynamism to the story goes. Saints, jerks, background characters - everything and everyone has their own story; their own tale to tell. In my opinion, the MC for any story quest just happens to be the focus.

>Player
What would the point be?

>Bonus
Lack of Questers, I suppose. I don't think I can ever stop typing up a good yarn, a Quest or otherwise - I love it too much.

>>398220
Proving you're not Velo is easy! For instance, I understand the ID system! I'm obviously not that Anon you were originally replying to!

>>398415
ID system is exploitable. For some reason my ID morphs with almost every post on the hour.

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>>396779
> QM Question
Character writing is my absolute favorite part of writing. When I write characters in my Quest I tend to take inspiration from basically everywhere. Sometimes I even transplant characters I really like and just rip their names off and give them new ones.

However, the best part of it is just fleshing them out as the story goes on. You get to know them a little bit, their strengths, weaknesses, hopes and dreams, the lot.

It serves as an effective replacement to having actual friends.

Do any other QMs see what happens based on dice rolls, rather than have preset DCs?

I don't a whole lot, but on occasion.

What's the best way to come up with more plot for quests? Trying to come up with more ideas for future threads, and nothing is working.

>>398931
Make sure you check for all relevant Velo's

I hear he's everywhere these days

>>396779
Jedi Lord Quest is continuing once more!
>>399042

>QM Question

It's a bit of both. I'l try to have a clear idea of what the characters are supposed to be like when I make them, but I'll often end up altering their personalities at least slightly over the course of the story.

I also gave my players the choice of fleshing out 2 of the NPC's entirely on their own. I really had little idea for what these two were going to be like, so I took some input from my players to see what would be interesting characters to see.

>Player Question
People do that?

>>396779
>>QM Question
>How do you come up with your characters? And when you do, do you flesh them out as much as possible before their introduction or do you start small and flesh them out as the story progresses?

Honestly, I just start with a basic concept. Usually how they relate to the character, and I... write. My subconscious or whatever does the hard part, giving them a voice, and then I ride that wave until I've got a good mental image of how they work.

I start them out with very little flesh, at first. Very nascent, with very little but a trait. Like, for example, a certain character will just be 'dependable', and then next thing you know he's also the quiet, analytical type who's working behind the scenes to make things easier for the MC.

Or someone with just a 'bubbly' trait, who is initially playful and excitable, but then that twists into someone who's willing to stab their friends in the back for fame and power.

>>398931
What I tend to do is just throw out a bunch of plot 'seeds', most of which don't tend to go anywhere, and the ones that players pursue is the one that I water into a real idea. Like if they notice that a friend is consistently upset, I brainstorm about things that would make someone upset in the setting. Not enough money, their family is sick, their past as a bandit is catching up to them... And that character didn't even have a bandit past until the players asked!

>>399074
>plot seeds
Good concept. I'll borrow it for my quest.

>>399074
I love the Plot Seed concept as a name, it fits my style quite a bit. I may have to steal that.

>>399061
You aren't fooling anyone, Velo

>>399206
>>399061

What if Velo is actually EGO

>>399206
Be quiet Velo

>>399214
All hail the hive-velo

>>398931
Just add "stuff". Add narration and background info. Then let your players forget about it. Later when you need plot stuff for quests, look back and use that "stuff". Not only will it look like it was planned all along, it will still surprise your players. And really, the thing that keeps people hooked is surprise.

>>399230
VELO VELO VELO VELO

>>399243
Thanks for the advice.

If y'all wanna take a sec from Velo-posting, we're picking between doggos in my quest.

Wanna pick a doggo?

>>393590

>>QM Question
>How do you come up with your characters? And when you do, do you flesh them out as much as possible before their introduction or do you start small and flesh them out as the story progresses?

My characters are always some combination of influences or people in my life. And usually they are a basic idea, but they form through interactions.

>>Bonus Question
>What would make you drop or stop running a quest?
Getting freaking exposed.

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>Bump my own thread
>Still on page 3

>>396779
>How do you come up with your characters?
I find an image that I like, turn on some music, and the character writes themselves.

>{;ayer
>egatpve;y

>B[,os
The revelation that the QM was samfagging, railroading, or otherwise being a faggot.

>>399426
>{;ayer
>egatpve;y
>B[,os
Wow I fucked that right up. This is what I get for drinking, falling asleep, and immediately posting once I wake up.
>Player
>Negatively
>Bonus

>>397069
>maids
>Naruto
>not retarded
Pick one

>>396779
>QM Question
Most of the time, a character starts out as a name with a couple of basic notes. I then insert them into the quest and see what I can build onto them. It's worked a lot
>Bonus Question
A lack of an audience

New personal rules if I ever QM after playing on this board.

1): I shall always have an idea for the direction the quest goes in. I will not have the players type in every minor details and will not leave the road so vague as it appears to be nothing but a sandbox.

2) if a player has a third suggestion. Give them an idea if what could happen in response and it makes sense, it is an option. In other words. All player interactive moments no matter how insignificant can be write in.

3) I will let my players know if I cant continue or if I need a break as well as an estimate of how long whenever possible. As it is basic courtesy.

4) if the players want to turn something like a war story into a romance, fine. But the cost will be steep. Same applys for the vice versa.

5)Sudden shifts in a characters normal behavior will not be addressed unless possible without breaking emersion .

6)evil may be a tool but it is not a toy. As such, consequences for poor use will exist, but creative and careful use can get off scoot free.

7) I will never masquerade as a player if I am a QM. As nobody has any love or fear for velo. Machiavelli has nothing for distain for this poster.

>>399717
>2
could you reword that more coherently?

>4
that's.....not how it works.

>5
what the hell are you talking about? Do you mean when someone is purposely OOC because an event the MC is not aware of happened?

>1,3,6(ish)
good points. More of these, and we could actually stick them in a pastebin somewhere. Congratulations on learning things you could have learned doing a bit of research on tg.

ahh not this cancer thread again :^)

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Running a super hero wizard quest based on a superhero RPG setting /tg/ brainstormed. Not a lot of action right now, mostly character and world building. But I'm hoping to change that soon.

I'd love for any feedback/criticisms. It's my first quest on /qst/.

>>399811
And I of course forgot to link.
>>385055

What might people think of a WW1 boatslut quest where the ships of the Grand Fleet and High Seas Fleet come back to refight Jutland, this time to a decisive victory

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Hitmaid Quest is alive; there will be maids, guns, and possible action of a violent nature.

>>400057

>>396779
>>Bonus Question
>What would make you drop or stop running a quest?
Running consistently for two years straight.

>>400052
What is a boatslut?

Quick QM question; is it advisable to post a picture with every update, even if we don't have anything appropriate in our folders?

>>400226
Nah you don't need to. Plenty of people don't and are fine.

>>399781
Go back to sucking Velo's cock, Velo.

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Well then. We are off!
>>400239
>>400239
>>400239

>>400246
fucking damnit someone call the exterminator Velo is back

>>400254
Hey, that's a holy proffession these days, can't get rid of the skittering little shit

>>400254
>>400265

I can't tell if that's actually Velo fucking up again or someone being ironic

but this is a cancer thread on qst

>>400281
Haven't quests always been cancer?

>>400285
Can confirm remove quests forever

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>>400179
Think Kancolle or Arpeggio of Blue Steel

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Evil always finds a way

Soon start a Dragon Knight one shot

http://anonkun.com/stories/dragon-knight/mPYqEEHduCvPakJN8

>>400347
how original

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>>400355
I never claimed to be original

>tfw been wanting to run a quest since the inception of this board
>tfw been writing subplots and thinking out in my head
>go on /qst/ yesteryday, see the fiasco caused by some literally who
well guess its time to dash out those subplots and let it be organic

>>400395
>go on /qst/ yesteryday, see the fiasco caused by some literally who
What I missed?

>>400404
the guy running the game of thrones quest was caught posing as a player to railroad for his personal power fantasy subplot or something

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>>400426

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>>400426
How did the players react when they found out he was jewing them?

>>400426
>>400454
And then did it again. In this thread.

>>397529

>>400454
And after that QM quit and ran off another QM jumped in and rebooted the quest, making his 'thread #1' in the corpse of the old QM's thread.

>>400456
You should see for yourself.

>>396352

>>400426
he was just advising
he added comments not turn actions

Then faggots just blew it out of proportion because they were autistic

>>400469
>>400474
Millenium Jesus Christ. Everyone already knows you are Velo's #1 dicksucker. Hell you made a discord so that Velo could have a hugbox.

And even that got taken over.

>>400481
>And even that got taken over.

Hey i couldn't care less mate
I just wanted him to continue because I enjoyed his writing

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>>400468
>That fucking trainwreck of QM dick suckers and pissed of players
>There even one in this thread right now saying he was in the right
Could anyone fuck up any worse as a QM than this guy?

>>400509
>Could anyone fuck up any worse as a QM than this guy?

Well He could have gotten no replies and his quest died at the first thread....

This happens everyday here

Are there any tips of making a great Quest focused on a lot of debates and politics?

>>400514
In fact it's happening RIGHT NOW

Oh the tragedy.

>>400522
>great Quest focused on a lot of debates and politics

I think you have the wrong site

>>400490
>>400514
I mean like doing it once was shitty enough. Doing it again, RIGHT AFTER, is just a clear sign he hasn't even learned.

>>396951
Like, c'mon.

>>400514
It better to die peacefully than betray the trust of your entire playerbase and outright say what you were planning to do in advance. I can tell you're an apologist for the guy so I doubt you will even care about this.

>>400524
what? where? show me!

>>400522
Try providing tangible resources, goals and benefits. It'll keep things more focused.

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>>400529
>I can tell you're an apologist for the guy so I doubt you will even care about this.

>>400522
just add waifus
waifus are debate
waifus are politics
it's all you need, really

>>400539

>>390870
>>396088

heres two real quick

>>400575
Those quests are shit, though. They died cause they're shit. The QM's ended their updates with just about nothing for the player to do. Fallout guy's updates were about as big as the player's suggestions.

But at least they aren't samefagging in their own quest.

>>400575
For one, neither gives choices and expects players to come to a conclusion on their own.

For two, both got replies, whom are probably waiting for replies in turn.

>>400593
You guys accusing Op of samefagging like its murder..
This is a niche board on a chinese laundromat site

>>400595
Velo's Quest was entire write ins

Just let that sink in
This board loves power gaming qsts like that.. Then add game of thrones and good writing and you got a fanbase.

>>400608
and how did that work? Everybody made the same write in-or all of them voted the first one?
Plus would it have really worked if the QM doesn't whispers the best solutions for the problems he constructed?

>>400646
It worked pretty well
You were saying the fact that the other quest failed was because of write ins only...

His threads were a success... since they were above 750 posts each

>>400658
I've also said that those quest did not fail, the players are waiting for answers.

and now I am asking how the 100% write ins worked in practice.

Were they really 100% write-ins, or just updates with one choice, that seemingly came from another anon?

>>400682
100% write ins
Then we argued for an hour or two
And came to a consensus since I got really fucking impatient

>>400783
>i
>as in (You)

VEEEELOOOOOO

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>>400792
Caught out again
Fml

>>399753
Yeah, I was on a few meds when I wrote that out.

2) if a write in answer makes sense and is reasonable for the situation, it's an option for the players, regardless if write in were previously stated to be allowed.

That's because part of what makes qst fun is when the players go off script. At least that's how it is from my perspective.

5) I'm talking about when the MCs actions and choices from the characters get unrealistic because they have, say, previously established the MC as a very non conflict oriented person, and suddenly the players have him running at someone with a sword. Things can go wrong because of the break of character, but I won't address how out of character it was for the MC to do that without good reason, like making it a plot point or a slight shift in personality.

4) no, you can't change the type of story without dire consequences for the MC. That's the basic idea.

I should only type this stuff out while I'm coherent. Lol.

>>400849
Ah you cheeky wanker...
It doesn't really matter whether you really are Velo at this point, you've lost all credibility with this simple typo.
Don't worry, you just have to stop beyond a moron and everything will fix itself.

>>401150
Whoops, intended for >>400807
I mean, come on dude. Put some effort in your shitposting, we have a standard to hold.

>>401176
>>401176
>>401176

I felt guilty about running something else yesterday, so here's another thread of Beleaguered Prince Quest. Spies! Political assassinations! Waifus! It's got everything!

I honestly have no idea who is Velo now

>>401273
Fucking go away you arent relevant

>>401273
>>401315
>it's fine if I do it ironically!!!

>>401315
>>401273
This really is just getting sad

>>401273
>>401315
Famalam...you gotta stop. This isn't good for you.

did we just get our first board meme?

>>401548
>First meme
I thought that was the mod who didn't listen

>civ quest
>civ quest
>risk quest
>waifu quest
>imouto quest
>yet another civ quest
>low effort draw quest
>another fucking civ quest
/qst/ was a mistake

Rolled 1, 1 = 2 (2d12)

Test

Rolled 4, 4 = 8 (2d12)

>>401690
um. . . was that normal?

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>>401677

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>Work for half an hour making a single picture
>Work for another 10 minutes writing a single post
>I have no audience
>Hiro fucked shit up
>Can't bump my own thread, no matter what I do, it's still on page 5
>Other quests get an audience and the OP simply dies from a heart attack
>I literally have no mouth and I must scream
>Send help

>>401701
As another anon so put it all the real quests are on /tg/. Like, all six of them.

Also you forgot to mention the board mostly being filled with dedthreds and skirmish shit.

>>401698
What do you mean?

>>401420
>>401361

>>401721
Quest?

>>401732
it looks like were rolling doubles. I just found it odd you rolled two ones.

>>401742
This is my first time on this board, i was testig the rolling feature ;-;

>>401749
>;-;
>july
>nothing to be suprised at move along

>>401749
welcome to /qst/ where the dice are as sadistic as a bad /d/m

So, how is everyone's Quests going today?

>>400849
>2
ah. ....well, yes.

>5
that makes more sense. You really are fucked when players are purposely doing something OOC.

>4
no, see, this is a standard problem in tg games as well. IT SHOULDN'T GET TO THAT POINT. Communicate with your players, make it clear what kind of story it's going to be. If you don't WANT it to turn into a different type, say so. If you DO, make sure everyone is on-board for it.

Don't turn a quest into player vs QM just because you couldn't talk things out like adults.

>>401769
Eh, almost done with the first post and a good amount of background writing done so I'm excited.

Not so excited seeing the drama going on and all but yeah

>>401677
I'm sorry, Anon. I should never have brought civ quest to /tg/.

>>401863
fresh bread when?

What makes a good quest? For future reference, of course.
>inb4 Don't pull a Velo

>>401898
gonna need to be more specific, notyetfam

i want to start a new quest.

So far, I got a planned semi donut steel card-based quest with all of it rules/cards planned out
there is also:

A 'Dungeon' crawler with a group of 3-5 terminator squad and a Librarian inside a space hulk

A peculiar quest of a psychologist how deals with various persons of different mental illnesses

A not-so -mundane of a nobody in a hive city

soo pick you poison

>>401926
How does one gain attention of others and make a quest interesting?

>>401941
A not-so -mundane of a nobody in a hive city

sounds cool to me

>>401941
the terminator squad sounds awesome if you can get the players.

the not so mundane nobody could be fun in its own right.

the psychologist I would say a lot of us need to do our research first.

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After not keeping up with this place and /tg/ for awhile I only want to know about one thing.

How are the players questing here vs the players questing on /tg/?

>>401973
The same.

More new QMs here that don't know the ropes as well as the people on /tg/ though.

>>401941
>mundane life

god i need some cawfeee
>>401958
problem is there is little fluff about hive cities to begin with, so that might be a bit hard to pull off correctly.
>>401967
>players

yeah that's the issue right there

I could simplify the whole psychologist quest for the player but i don't know.

>QM Question
>How do you come up with your characters? And when you do, do you flesh them out as much as possible before their introduction or do you start small and flesh them out as the story progresses?
I tried to flesh them out mostly before I started running the quest, including all of their stats. Turned out to not be a good idea, and I had to keep adjusting the stats when we first encountered them to make it a reasonable fight.

>Bonus Question
>What would make you drop or stop running a quest?
If all my players get bored and leave... ;_;

>>402075
>If all my players get bored and leave... ;_;
I feel like I'm making great progress towards this by not running at all!

>>402108
The key to success lies in copying a much more famous authors work and fanficcing the living hell out of it my child

>>402168
That's exactly what I've been doing! I just haven't ran in a while.

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>>402168
Only if you're a fucking talentless hack, faggot.

>>402222
>Only if you're a fucking QM that actually wants players, nigger.
Fix'd.

>>402243
Accurate

>>401956

Not that anon but

>an evocative OP image that conveys the general setting of the quest
>first thread opens up with the premise of the quest in a clear way with a presentation that shows effort on the writer's end (usually because players can tell that the OP has prepared a setting for the quest and has an idea of its direction)
>writing is grammatically correct, serviceable in terms of showing players their options, and doesn't indulge in verbose descriptions and manages to keep a steady pace (gets to the point), without confusing players
>players are shown to have real influence on things in the setting, and in general have a sense of freedom and have things to do and problems to solve. When there are rails, there are multiple paths and the decision of path should be made evident to players when it exists by the QM. Also there should be some significance or sacrifice in choosing one path over the other, even if it leads to the same place.
>the quest has a setting that has stuff going on without the players necessarily participating in it. The QM might give hints about ways in which they can interact with it.
>The QM is distinctly unlike other notable shitty QMs, does something unique, has personality etc


I ended up writing a lot, but I think pretty much any sign of writing quality and preparation will attract players initially.

>>402261
Update speed, bruh. Never forget update speed.

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Stick Man Quest is back up!
>>402257
>>402257
Now with 20% more editing in the title screen!
And a shitty GIF file I made in 5 minutes

>>402290

Yes, update speed.

But you know, that's kind of a thing that only happens on this site. Other questing sites are comfortable with 1 or 2 updates a day, because its an actual forum and not a chatroom-ish forum like 4chan.

I kind of mentioned that in the whole "steady pace" thing, but I guess it was ambiguous.

>>401956
Assuming you want to stand out from shitty quests and look like you actually know what you're doing....read the OP pastebin. Read other quests. Know why certain quests structure the OP in a certain way, and compare it to the "unorthodox" OPs of newer quests that fall flat almost immediately. This is the realm of "rookie QM mistakes", and if you can show through your work not to fall for most of the initial traps, that will already get you some attention.

Although using a fanfic title technically speeds up the process as well, just look at Atelier Quest and see how it can still fail if you don't back it up in how you structure choices.

Interesting, on the other hand, is pretty damn vague. You can have mechanics that are surprisingly well-suited to quests and make choices fun, or it could be interesting in how the lore is setup and drip-fed. Some people will like one and not the other. What do YOU find "interesting"?

>>402290
update speed is pretty important, yeah. But contrary to how it may seem, average post speed is not the priority. CONSISTENCY is the key here. If you post every hour, everyone knows when to check in. If you post every 4 hours, people can tab out and know largely what time to show up. Missing a vote can very quickly sap a player's interest in the quest, and it feels bad when you demand players to watch their tabs like a hawk.

you're on qst, take advantage of how there is no need to bump and pace yourself.

Hey, I have a question. Why aren't quests done sometimes by professional writers?

Or, if you prefer

What if Stephen King ran a quest?

>>402376
>>>
Vox is a professional writer.

Although his quest is on /tg/

>>402376
Because they are a massive time sink that offers no money. If you're a professional writer your writing time is infinitely better spent actually writing a book.

Plus, questing requires additional skills other than writing. Just because you're a good author doesn't mean you'd be a good QM.

>>402390
>Vox is a professional writer.
Haha

>>402407
I'm a professional writer too, anon.

I get paid to write.

Ain't gonna expand on what I write or how much I get paid, but hey, I'm a professional.

>>402376
being a good writer does not necessarily mean you are a good QM. The time and skill investment for something that reaches very small demographics is....not often considered financially wise.

>>402390
im a professional shiposter

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>>402398

Do you think someone could ever make money running a quest legitimately? I mean, I know about Patreon but that's kind of skeezy.

Like, I don't know how the service could be facilitated or anything, but personally I kind of feel like quests are a more powerful method of storytelling, in the same way that some videogames are, except you can take it even deeper and have this sort of moral dialogue with a group of players through the story and etc, I'm going to assume you know what I mean, and have some fond memories of some powerful experience you had with a quest you were in.

I mean, I think that's a new thing. And I think it should be a thing, and not just another way to wank off to fan fics.

are there any civs that are run in a first person perspective.

if there arent how does the idea of an aged commander running a desolate fort filled with criminals and runaways (think nights watch) sound? other races like dwarves and skaven and dark elves and other would make appearances.

i already wrote some of this if you couldnt tell

>>402485
I've gotten gifts from players. Books, vidya, one dude took me out to dinner, some other stuff. Never money though. Just from my perspective, I don't know if I'd want to monetize quest. I feel like that would lead to either a shit tone of moneygrubbing faggots who can't write trying to break into the questing scene, or it would lead to some sort of pay-to-play bullshit where people who donated got perks that other people didn't.

>>402530
>Books, vidya, one dude took me out to dinner
Wait what?

>>402535
Some dude who followed my quest lived in my area and heard I was looking for a job. We arranged to meet at a restaurant to talk about a position he had open.

>>402535
He also goes on dates with his sister. Pretty it's an under the table sort of thing, but to each their own I guess.

>>402485
we're not at the stage where QMs are both skilled enough writers AND choicemakers to make payments a regular thing.

There's nothing INHERENTLY wrong with things like Patreon. I think Decu used it solely for artstuff.

But if you Require it, people will just go to the next best quest that's free. If you give exclusive content to payers, you are dividing an already small playerbase and fucking up the choice segments further when anons try to convince people with sidestories that other people haven't read. If it's completely voluntary....how do you convince people to pay? How do you convince QMs to set it up, when running the quest itself is already a humongous amount of work?


This is just what I think is necessary, but:
>There needs to be a larger quality gap between "professional" QMs and others. Yes, larger than we already have right now.
>These QMs need to, or have someone who can, act as essentially a Community Manager. Someone who can keep the atmosphere civil and nip buds that would kill the quest and waste people's invested cash. This requires a bullshit number of skills in working around people.
>Someone else in charge of the details of the monetizing and what "special" content to release. QMs don't have time to hash out rules. This means that a QM is entrusting someone else with their source of income.

>>402485
>Do you think someone could ever make money running a quest legitimately?

As a QM whose players have actually mentioned patreon, no, I don't think so. At least, not in a way that I would personally feel acceptable enough to use for income. I'm not going to rule it out the possibility, but more enterprising individuals than me will need to discover it.

>>402517
>are there any civs that are run in a first person perspective.
Yup. They are actually among the most popular of the civ threads, since they have more detailed character interactions that let players get more invested into the quest more easily.

>>402577

So, are you saying that QMs and Quests in general might have a future if it evolves to the point those sorts of things become easier to facilitate?

I'm really more interested in that, rather than money.

>>402577
>''For 5 dollars, i'll run a spin off story!''
>''And for 10 dollars, I'll make the MC a cute little girl''
>''For 15 dollars, I make the girl use a katana that can slice anything!''
>''For 20 dollars, I make her wear a robotic suit''
>''Donate 50 dollars, and I make the final boss Senator Armstrong! DONATE NOW!''
Imagine how horribly bad would that be

>>402577
Why not just use patreon as a flat donation thing? Like, pledge a max 5 bucks a month or something to help the QM keep going, no special deals or exclusive prizes for higher payers

>>402618
>"if we give you 100 dollars will you be fucking original?"

>>402485
Quests don't have large enough player bases for that.
If you wall things off for paying players only, you'll just lose players. If you don't, you'll have to be good enough that people *want* to give you money, and event the best probably couldn't coax more than a few bucks a month from a small part of their player base.
Youtubers can do it because that money volunteering fraction of a percent of their viewers is still hundreds or thousands of people throwing about $5 each on average.

>>402641
AHAHAHAHAAHAA YES

TAKE MY MONEY

>>402618
>Roll 1d5 to fight the enemy. You need a 7 to succeed
>For $1, roll 1d10 instead
>For $3, roll 1d20 instead
>For $10, you automatically win, and I'll write a lewd post about you masturbating after the battle

>>402625
to pioneer this sort of thing, that would probably be the best way to go about it.

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>>402618
>>402641
>>402662

>>402617
hey, we can dream.

But for it to happen, you need QMs actively pushing in that direction, and players who actually want quality and are ready to put money with the sentiment.

>>402625
My personal issue with that is that while on the surface it's fine, you can give your money to whoever you want, that's fine, but as the recipient, in order to turn that money into more questing I would need at least enough to quit my job and just work on questing full time. Not only do I think it would be impossible, or at least unrealistic for me to bring in that kind of money, but I'd also not feel very comfortable getting that much money from running a quest, and I feel like the stress alone would be too much, since I'd essentially always be one shitstorm away from being homeless.

>>402785
see, that's why the Community Manager thing is important.

even then, it would probably be wiser to split to 2-3 quests, run at different days of the week to spread risk.

>>396779
I'm a fairly new QM. I've done DMing in the past, but that was a long time ago. I'm having fun writing "Ruleless" campaigns. As far as how I come up with characters, there are many ways. Usually they just appear in my head fully formed, with backstories, motivations, personalities, etc. Sometimes I build a character around a specific trait, or an idea. Sometimes I take a person from my life and insert them. Mostly they are just there, with no active input from me. I sometimes feel like posting in my own threads but I haven't yet because I already control all the other characters. If I was trying to railroad I might, but I always have 10 or 20 ideas on how things might go, and even if you decide to do something off-the-wall but acceptable to the quest I can usually run with it. I've certainly had it happen many times that something is suggested that changes everything I had planned, but my plans are so nebulous that I don't really care. When I first set out I feel like a prophet, but as my quests go on I feel like a character in a real world, with no idea of what might really happen. If I got overloaded with trolls I would put a quest on hold. I've done it a couple of times, although I've seen other QMs do it way more quickly than I. I usually just allow the real players to make their responses and completely ignore the trolls. Bad ends can be fun too.

>>402785
>>402817

Only speculating into the future here, but there's also the possibility of the QM being sponsored by a third party that you subscribe to that also sponsors other QMs or something. Crowd funding isn't the only way to go, and like many things that are crowd funded if the content shows any promise, they are likely to be picked up by an actual business entity.

And, you know, we're talking about QMs that players would actively want to run with instead of casually play while they half-heartedly do their schoolwork.

>>402853
So like those writer's groups that hire people to write eight dollar short stories about whatever, but instead continuously for maintained stories, like some satanistic spawn between tier-zed novel publishers, internet fagpile fanfiction forums, and youtube's at-content discretionary monetary system.

Yeah. Sounds great pal. Let's jump on this train and ride 'til we die.

What's the best way to introduce mutants into an ordinary quest without pissing off players?

>>403134
Can't really figure out why mutants would piss off players unless you're specifically thinking x-men or something like. Actually, I recall a fairly successful x-men quest, the QM died.

Any fucking way, If it's a fantasy setting say they're ancient magical experiments.

If it's a sci-fi setting second verse same as the first with science.

If it's a mundane real world thing utilize the government, ancient conspiracies, secret labs and some escapes, etc. Experiments on prisoners of war is a another common one.

Easier to gen answers if I know the setting, tho.

>>403172
I've already decided how to implement it in my quest. I already established there was a mad scientist who had managed to reverse aging and create superhumans. He dispersed a cheap drug on the market that served to enhance human performance and gave an extreme high. When he died, the drugs stopped coming. And all of the addicts were left without their happiness, with nigh-superhuman abilities and rage for whatever had stolen it from them. Its going to be the next arc of my Quest, as my main cast does their best to defend against this new threat.

>>402609
any of those first person civs running right now?

>>403248
Alright Meido.

>>403297
Like, at this exact moment, or are currently not dead?

There's Death Among the Stars, for one, Ghoul Civ by the same guy, both are great, and HQQ are still running, and the others I'm fairly certain are dead or mostly dead, but include Spore Quest, AI Quest, Cyclops Civ, I think Mushroom Civ, Aspiring Emperor Quest, and I think there was a Dragon Quest with some heavy civ aspects, but those all either died or finished, but are still good examples if you're looking for past examples of it being done with success.

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>>403396
Irk...you got me, comrade.

>>401677
>>401863
My quest isn't waifu or civ based if it makes you feel any better Although I have done waifu quests. And worse .

>>401863
I remember when civ threads were touted as the elite of quest threads. They were supposed to stand apart from the common rabble of waifu quests.

What happened?

>>401769
Slow, but that's to be expected. I don't have a set time to update. I wanted it to go at a slower pace than my /tg/ quests but now I think I might have to schedule in a day to really update and speed things up. I might even have to move the quest to /tg/.

>>403398
i meant at this moment but you covered all the bases, im gonna check them out

STAY TUNED FOR YET ANOTHER FIRST PERSON CIV QUEST

>>403434
I don't think you'll have a hard time swinging the whole mutant thing by your players. As long as you give them more chances for lewd times wit the master. And Karin.

also do you guys advertise your quest on tg then run it here or vice versa

>>403446
Well, I run one myself, so if you're getting into it just let me give you some quick warnings.

Do not go in blind. Make a system to manage resources, units, orders, abilities. Even if you hide these behind a layer of fluff, you need them yourself to keep track of things. I'm not sure if you've run a quest before, or a civ before, but it involves a lot of effort and preparation, and over time it can become one hell of a time sink. That's probably why so many have died in the past. I don't recall one that died of a lack of players, only death by QM abandonment, and my guess is the QM got overwhelmed by the crunch.

Making sure you build a frame for everything to fit into really helps compartmentalize the crunch and lets you manage it bit by bit, but going in blind just means you'll need to juggle it nonstop every thread, which quickly becomes overwhelming and can burn you out damn quick if you're not careful.

Also, what's it gonna be about, so I can keep my eye out, and where are you running it, /qst/ or /tg/?

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>>403453
I didn't think I'd have major issues doing it after the whole 'Akira' escapade. Just posted here to further cement the decision in my mind. Maids are for being cute; lewd w/ master is the end-goal.

>>403478
well now i have to rethink some things.

well the "story" of the civ would revolve around a fort much like castle black in got but only in the fact that its very separate from the main empire and not filled with professional soldiers but a hodge podge of people.

when i was writing it i was more concerned with options concerning the mc not things like resources and units but i think that would make it more interesting since the mc would be a commander of sorts.

also whats the name of your quest i want to check it out

>>403477
yes

>>403509
HQQ. You play a telepathic hive queen of an Ender's Game style insectoid race. I went in with very little thought to how to handle the crunch, and as a result the first few dozen threads were a kind of crucible trying to build a game system from the ground up as the dice were being rolled. I would highly recommend you spare yourself a lot of headache and think over the resource management system ahead of time. I ran a short cyberpunk detective quest here to test out the new board and it demanded far less time and attention to prepare for, and was far less stressful.

That said, despite all the effort and time it can demand, I feel like it's far more rewarding in the end, at least in my opinion.

>>403535
I think i read that cyberpunk detective quest, the name is slipping but from what i can remember it was pretty cool.

do you have any tips for the resources system, at least something in the way of a beginner.

>>403547
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=Cyberpunk+Detective+Quest

It was just just called "Cyberpunk Detective Quest" and was only 3 threads long, although each thread lasted almost a week each. I certainly enjoyed it, and it didn't take nearly as much prepwork.

What you need for yours depends on what you want to do. First thing would be how you plan on measuring and using resources, and how many different resources you want to include. For example, you could count every single chicken in the keep, or just say "there's a chicken farm just outside the walls, and it feeds x number of men" or even just say "the keep has chicken farmers living nearby, food is handled." and be done with it. Different levels of detail will result in different kinds of things becoming potentially important to the players in different ways.

For instance, if your players decide they want to add on to the walls and make some nice big stone walls along the keep's outer perimeter, how would you have them do that? How would you determine where the stone came from, how much is needed, how it was moved, ect. Does the wall cost x number of stone units, or does it tie up the local quarry for x number of days? Where does the labor come from? Do the players assign engineers like builder units, or is there just a team of workers that just do these things so long as there's resources?

In the end, it depends on what you want the players to worry over and how.

>>402421
>Being a good writer does not mean you are a good QM/DM

You damn right it doesn't. One requires a lot more interactivity and on-the-fly thinking than the other. It's like theatre vs camera.

>>403509
Friends of the Faun (if you can fund the threads because I don't think they were archived?) guy ran them a few months ago and that was a good civ with a first person viewpoint

Lots of nsfw though

>>400253
We are continuing the adventure of our NOT!commissar, currently musing between lying or confessing a murder he did on a fellow officer.

How fast do things usually move here, and what are high-population times?

>>404274
Tortoise sex and almost never, respectively.

>>404289
Am I better off just sticking with /tg/?

I'd hoped this place might have some life because it's a dedicated board.

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You know I wouldn't mind getting a bit of cash every time I run. Enough to buy beer or something. That's kind of the unwritten arrangement I have with my IRL players; they provide the consummations while I provide the DMing. It's a friendly trade.

I don't know if I'd actually do it for my quest though. Nerv Bridge Simulator is still in fan-fiction territory, being Evangelion and all, it would feel somewhat wrong to monetize that.

About QMing as a full-time job- I don't see it happening soon, or ever, but we'd surely see some wild stuff if it did. We built a nice community around on-the-side imageboard questing and we already saw some really cool things happen. Imagine the sort of quests we'd get if a QM could spend 40hrs/week on it.

Anyway it's all speculation since we don't have enough of a big community to support this kind of thing. Especially since the /qst/ split.

>>404299
That's exactly what I was thinking, but I am starting to thing qst was a mistake. The idea might have worked but there is something wrong with the execution

>>404321
Certain quests get the same amount of players that /tg/ might. There's just too many quests and a ton of them fail because they're mostly by new qms who have no idea what they're doing.

>>404299
Wish I could say otherwise, but if you want to sink or swim in the span of one thread quickly over a single evening instead of four to five days as it is here, yes. You'll want to run there.

Though admittedly /tg/ prime times are weekends and after work/school times for americans, usually. I don't remember the best run times for quests there, but I do remember something weird about universally low traffic on a specific day, but I don't remember which day that was. It's been a while.

>>404302
>spoilers
Just as foretold.

>>404369
>four to five days
For a single thread? Fug, I can't commit that kind of time.

>>404378
You can run a thread for however long you want. The only question is whether the first thread is attention-grabbing enough to get enough players.

>>404360
This, too. The game of thrones one was doing extremely well, while some other threads by QM's that had run on /tg/ are also doing very well. Exabutt's and moloch's stuff in particular.

I guess the civs/skirmish count if someones looking specifically for player responses but I think there's only two that aren't fucking shite and one of them is dead and the other runs on /tg/ so take my opinion with some salt.

>>404378
You don't have to, it's just that the threads stick around that long. At the moment the oldest thread is some butterfly thing started six days ago.

Some QM's start a new thread when they hit the bump limit or go over the limit for some time, some just link from their twitter when they're running in the same thread, so there's some certain alternatives.

On that thought I haven't seen anyone run four to five days straight. Might be interesting. I remember azure earth doing a whole weekend for HQR, but that was a while ago.

>>404360
Of those that have high post counts (i.e "succeed), it seems to me that they are all either:
>Civ Quests
>Animu/waifu/fanfic stuff
>Written video-games

Few things are original and succeed here, alas.

>>404302
Yeah that's a fair trade.

>>404360
My biggest beef that I can't tell which quests are being played at the moment and which are just laying dormant in the catalog.

On /tg/ that wasn't an issue because threads that didn't recieve replies for 30 mins or so, went down the drain.

how do we save qst lads

>>404477
Same way you save a horse with two gangrenous legs.

Amputation or bullet.

>>404439
>My biggest beef that I can't tell which quests are being played at the moment and which are just laying dormant in the catalog.

It's not perfect but hover your cursor over the pictures in the catalog. It'll tell you when the thread was created and when the last reply was. So it might give you a sense of whether the quest is active or dead in the water.

>>404477
New QMs need to lurk more and read archives of successful quests before starting. And players should give more quests a chance.

>>404502
Hey, thanks. It's not perfect, but it helps.

>>404489
hey now take it easy

>>404439
>>404502
Just view threads by last reply in the catalog.

>>404591
That's...actually a good idea.

>>404591
I have to apologize; it seems I am a moron.

>>404604
Except Shipgirl Commander updates sporadically every six hours or so, except when the QM has the time to write 1 post per hour or so. And stops updating once the thread hits the 3 day autosage.

Not sure if other quests do something similar, but it's not perfect.

Have any quest's successfully migrated from /qst/ to /tg/?

>>404668
I don't think so. At least I haven't seen one.

The opposite has happened though as you probably already know.

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Got my hands full with a couple of quest right now, but I was thinking how popular civ threads have gotten and how people seem to really want a good one and now I'm thinking about throwing my hat in the ring.

Would anyone be interested in a civ thread based on 1980's action figure properties? It'll be in the same universe as Cape World, but you won't have to know anything about Cape World in order to play and enjoy it.

It takes place on one of those world with ancient magic and ancient technology. Think Eternia from MOTU or Third Earth from Thundercats or how Earth is like in Thundarr the Barbarian.

The world is composed on factions, some good and some bad, but even the good ones will have reasons to fight one another. It's currently experiencing a bit of peace. The Golden Empire has all but wiped out the Kingdom of Shadows. They maintain a truce with the Confederacy of Beast People and the United Dreamscape (telepathically linked robot faction).

This peace is threatened by the arrival of a crashed hyper-dimensional ship of Earth humans. The crash causes old spells to activate and old technology to come to life again. Ancient races preserved in stone come to life. An empire of ghosts and skeletons wishes to reclaim what it once had. The ancestors of the United Dreamscape robots come alive and threaten to cause a schism.

The once toothless Kingdom of Shadows is slowly regaining power as its ancient king and ruler rises from his tomb. If the players want to save the day their chosen faction must unite the other factions through diplomacy and/or war. Only a united planet can save itself.

That is unless they want to play as the Skeletor faction...

So, is this the kind of civ /qst/ would like to see? In terms of mechanics it'll be divided between resource management (such as mining not-Energon cubes, working on creating vehicles and accessories for the troops, and building up base defenses) and combat (just like in the cartoons it's less army vs army and more squad vs squad. There is of course a big focus on storming and defending bases).

Sound good so far?

>>404302
I wonder if you will take compensation for quest asset commissions in the future? (especially if you're fed animator's style/ref sheets)

This is going to sound real slutty, but if any based anons are interested I got the dark souls west running again. I'll be qming the entire day pretty much, it basically just started so you can jump on at any time

>>404420
Which is basically what happened on /tg/. Funny, that.

>>404723
>west
Don't worry it's just autocorrect. Gonna be a bit of a stretch running on my shitty Apple platform though.

>>404684
Do you think it would be an awful idea for a QM of a small quest here to move to /tg/?

>>404751
I don't think it would be awful. You just need to make sure your current players come with you to /tg/ and also be ready to deal with /tg/'s speed.

You will need to start running active sessions, 1 thread a session, instead of having a thread up for a whole week.

>>404751
I see nothing wrong with it. Just have a twitter or some thing where you announce it.
Or at the end of the last thread here.

>>404289
>>404321
>>404489
Yeah, fuck it, I'll see what I can scrape up here. Probably just a oneshot for the rest of the day, but we'll see where it goes.

It's not my first rodeo, so hopefully I won't fall for the newbie mistakes.

>>404733
Well given the nature of 4chan itself (an anime imageboard) its not surprising. But it is heartrending on otherwise interesting and original quests are lost in the periphery to harem-anime-waifu-fanfic-videogame quests. Either you appease to these tastes or you look elsewhere. So it goes.

>>404897
I don't know man. I've seen plenty of original quests get around 15 + IPs. They do fine.

What original quests have you seen dry up on the vine?

>>404897
Like I know the DBZ or Naruto fanfics stand out cause they get so many replies but OC quests still do well enough.

Alot of the times OC quests don't make is because the QM just isn't that good. It takes a lot more effort to make your OC setting come to life.

>>404897
Basically mediocre but accessible material gets favored over mediocre stuff nobody's ever heard of. And even if an "original" quest stands out as having been well-done, it may do well even if it's not to everyone's tastes. Each appeals to different people, and that's fine.

So write it off as "appeasing" or "pandering" if you want to. It doesn't change the fact that any quest that doesn't immediately and continually appeal to potential players won't succeed, regardless of the premise.

>>404420
I'm ashamed, but don't regret that my Quest is practically the last two. Although to call it fanfic is a stretch.

I'm not sure if it's waifu either, to be honest. I just took a lot of inspiration from the novel series more than I did the game.

Also, X-COM.

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>>405226
unDead Quest is live again!

>>405041
>lot of inspiration from the novel series more than I did the game
You mean XCOM or KanColle?

>>404897
That notion is sort of countered by the fact that the most popular quest on the board is also entirely original.

>>405341
What's that?

Why are there still quest threads on /tg/

I'm not opposed to quests, It's just that this board is better for them, and on /tg/ they compete with other threads.

>>405490
>It's just that this board is better for them
That's not an objective fact. It depends on the QM and what kind of quest he or she wants to run.

People like the 1 session = 1 thread = 1 day of /tg/ as opposed to multiple sessions in one thread that can last a week.

>>405490
>They compete with other threads
Less than 10 out of 150 is not competing. They were never large enough to be a concern over there, which is why they were never removed.
Some people will claim that anyone who isn't an active quester actually hates quests, the fact is that quests started on /tg/ and have been on /tg/ for almost a decade. Most of /tg/ does not actively dislike quests, and the only people who actually wanted /qst/ were the haters who wanted it to be a containment board.
/tg/ can have quests.

>>404935
>>404958

Really? Like what?

>>405041
Nothing to be ashamed of m8. Reading it back it seems like I was admonishing such quests, but really I'm not (unless you're doing it without enjoying it, i.e only for the attention, then yes, be ashamed). I'm just bitter that OC quests are almost never as popular as the ones I mentioned.

>>405638
>Really? Like what?

What kinda quests you want senpai?
Currently running OC /tg/ Quests?
Currently running OC /qst/ Quests?
/tg/ OC Quests that moved to /qst/ Quests?
Completed OC quests?

What preference you got famalam? Or should I just start listing everything I know of?

>>405659
The kind which exhibit no signs of:

>civ
>harem
>waifus
>animu
>fan-fic
>videogame

and on qst, since that is the board in question and that are currently running and popular (in terms of post count).

>>405678
>>waifus
Now you're going to have to specify.

If by waifus you mean 'Uguu~ sempai let me stroke your cock' I get that.

But if you mean you things with absolutely no potential for a romantic subplot you might be SoL.

Does anyone have tips on exposition in an OC setting? I'm afraid of accidentally novelizing my posts with huge descriptions and I'm not sure of an effective way to stop that

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>>405678
...does my quest fall under 'waifu' and 'animu', senpai?

>>405678
>>405721
You are also going to have to define 'animu' for me.

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>>405729
I don't know, that's why I'm asking judge-anon for clarification. Over-the-top ridiculous stereotypes, maybe?

>>405740
I know I am also asking judge-anon so I know what quests to not list for him.

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>>404897
Or those quest were just uninspired shit? As far as I see it. The only reason the anime quests fare well, is because they are anime - in other words their only saving feature is pandering to weeaboos. But when you remove that feature, you got nothing at all anymore. So, stuff needs to be actually original.

I remember the Modern Nation RP a few weeks back, which had a pretty original premise. First 500 replyes were spent merely on setting the game up.

>>405678
>waifus
Uh, you mean like there's multiple waifus? Or that female characters are designed along regular anime romantic cliches? Or do you mean no romantic plots whatsoever? Because waifuing is something the players do, even in quests using western art, themes or tropes.

.>animu
You mean animu in plot, based on an anime, just using regular anime storytelling and cliches, or just using anime pics as reference but still have a story with western tropes?

>videogame
You mean based on a videogame, or played like a videogame? And what kind of videogames do you mean, considering the various video game genres out there.

>>405718
The most important way to do exposition is to simply act like the world is completely normal. Use a strange term now and then without much of a description about what they do, make the players curious.

>The Xivlim was extremely friendly, feelers twitching as it drank the nectar out of your hands. Most caretakers never got this close, but you've got a special gift.
>The gears inside the Heweng sputtered, so you slapped it around a bit. Percussive maintenance is best maintenance. Eventually it spat out the slush, while you did the quick work of replacing bags when each got full. You're getting a lot of silicon from this sample, but nothing abnormal.

The most important thing isn't to exposit, but to get the players interested. When they're interested, they'll ask questions, they'll explore the setting, they'll look for more than the tidbits you've shown them.

When you've got that, you've won.

Xivlim are cute little mammalian ant critters. They're fuzzy.

>>405754
Yes.
But seriously

>waifus
Romantic plots are fine, even when it's the main theme, just not filled with anime cliches

>animu
Pretty much yes to all of those, but pics, I suppose are fine.

>videogame
Played like one mostly, but based on one would fall under fan-fic so that's a no-no as well

Non-questfag here. I'm curious because I don't play, and don't really give a fuck either way whether you're here or on /tg/

>What's the general feeling towards /qst/ existing?
>What's you on this board's feelings about the people who still run quests on /tg/
>Will this board get dumped and you guys returned to /tg/? Do you want that?
etc.

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Is it just me or is the amount of lewd quests/lewds in quests surprisingly small?
I can count the number of quests that have a good number of lewds on one hand and there is only one that is alive right now (granted they fused together). I thought for sure there would be more.
Not complaining about how there should be more or less, just pointing it out.

>>405796
Alright then lets see

/qst/
>Banished
>Hellborn
>Northern Beasts
>Samsara
>Hero Guardian (probably trips animu)
>Contractor
>Dark Spirit
>Lost Island
>Beyond the Gate
>Exalted (probably trips waifu and animu a tad)
>Melancholic
>A Safe Haven
>FINAL ROUND
>European Dragon

Note that I haven't played most of these, but they seem to be OC quests at a small glance.

>>405829
A quest that was 100% lewd would get boring. There are sometimes oneshots that are all lewd, but for longer running quests, there needs to be some plot. Which is why it's more common to have a mostly-non-lewd quest that sometimes has lewd scenes.

>>405829

/qst/ is a work-safe board, so lewd quests usually get the BanHammer. Also, all of this fanfic hate makes me regret being a QM.

>>405843

Exalted is full-blown animu at this point and only Final Round, European Dragon and A Safe Haven are /qst/-original quests.

>>405886
What does /qst/-original mean?

>>405886
>only Final Round, European Dragon and A Safe Haven are /qst/-original quests.

That's like completely false. Do you need your eyes checked? Or are you just assuming?

Melancholic for instance was one of the first quests on the board.

>>405863
Of course, but unless its mostly smut I haven't seen any hand drawn quests with a lot of lewds.
>>405873
...And I understand that they wouldn't be advertising it bluntly or posting NSFW on work safe (or should), but there ARE loopholes.
The quest I have in mind has PLENTY of lewds, they just use imgur to post it.

The only quests that have lewds I can remember are Java's (which disappeared a while ago, so I might have gotten the name wrong) and the duo save the princess magic quest

>>405886
And also, so what if some quests came from /tg/? The dude was asking for OC quests on /qst/, not specifically ones that originated here.

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Remember when I said I was running dark souls quest? Hah! Now I'm running a second board! Check out dark age Britannia quest.

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For those interested, an update on the Paladin of Avalon is up.
http://anonkun.com/stories/the-paladin-of-avalon/-JRvxJl3loGBg9Bo64XE/26-rise-of-chaos/EgKvFY9PoHMsTcw4J

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Any of you guys happen to have the pastebin of the Late ReviewAnon's reviews?

Thanks in advance.

>>405826
I won't talk about other peoples feelings so I'll give you mind instead.

>first question
It's a mistake that only whiners asked for and it would be better with five pages less and no ID's. There are more new QMs. But over the past several weeks there's been less and less new threads and content. That was expected to happen when the new board shine wore off, I did not think it would actually wear off that quickly.

>second question
QM's still running on /tg/ have the right idea. The one's who moved haven't actually increased the audience of /qst/ by a significant margin, their playerbases remain in their own threads and as new QMs fail just as often as they did on /tg/ there's not a tremendous different from before in terms of actually persistent content.

>third question
Nothing of value will have been lost and only the whiners will have themselves to blame if /tg/ gets "flooded" by a return of quests.