Yet Another Cultural Evolution 2.0 III

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Sky nation opens many institutions in Winter's Refuge, among which are the headquarters of the newly established Bounty Hunter's guild, a bank that can transfer between flint currency and chunks of gold, and a Trader's guild independent of the Sky Nation. Since the sky nation doesn't have a form of currency, these buildings are very slowly run and accept all matter of acceptable barter material, such as people's valuable weapons, livestock, clothing, and food.

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Lake Nation gifts raft technology to the sky nation, and goes to work constructing large walls around Megara and Arcadia out of wood, since thats all the material they can build it out of. Bears are also allowed as citizens in the nation, doing manual labor and allowed in the armed forces, although they are not very good at holding weapons. More farmland is also built.

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Island nation builds a colony across the river bordering Arcanum. A wall is erected around Aquila, and farms are raised in Alesia.

>>181145
farmland wasn't their turn, dammit, they domesticate elk as ridable things

Awesome thread is back

>>181127
So, we need to mine more shit
Action: Build quarries and harvest stone/limestone from the mines
Action: Reinforce said walls with stone, making it so that it can't catch on fire
Tech: Printing, with consecutive stamping machines we can make books at a much faster rate, also increasing our literacy

>>181170
I don't recall you guys having mines, but if not, you can always roll to scout if theres any near your colonies!

>>181174
If we didn't have any mines then how were we able to get iron and then steel?

>>181177
You have the tech, not the resources.

>>181137
Tech: Steel Cuirasses
Tech: Loom
Tech : Spider Silk armor With all of the bulletproof and shrapnel proof goodness !

>>181187
>spider silk armor
That's downright impossible

Rolled 17 (1d100)

>>181181
Ok then
Action: Find Iron and a good location for a quarry
Action: After finding all of that, reinforce the walls and turn them into stone walls
Tech: printing

>>181189
Op gave us the silk, so weaving it shouldn't be impossible

>>181192
Oh fuck me...
Just reinforce it with mud then

>>181193
Wouldn't you need a loom for that, nevermind the fact that really thin spider silk is really fragile and a full armor is going to be really hard and really expensive to make

>>181194
We are researching the loom this turn and when op introduced it to us he said that we could use it so he kinda fucked up but still going to try to take advantage of it

>>181199
Ok then
I can't object to OP's fuckups

Alright.. Wheres dumb and dumber... Then we can start

So op must i post war turn?

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Arcanum: 25 (wall bonus +50)
Aquila: 50 (wall bonus +50)
Rome: 65
Pompeii: 55
Winterfell: 25
Alesia: 15

Ulan Bator: 20
Dafuq Owtovit: 15
Karakorum: 60
Erdenet: 20
Kobdo: 20
Bandits: 50
Abydos: 15

Island Units:
> Legions
> Bowmen
> Grenadier Monks

Plains Units:
> Horse archers
> Horse spearmen
> Swordsmen

Add more specialized units if I'm missing, let me know where you are pulling your units from first.

>>181478
What about Storms End..

>>181550
Storm's End; 15

>>181563
Cool, Also while we wait Go Do your turn CooN ;)

Ahh where these guys

>>181563
So you want ostriches hey...

Looks like they pussy'd out

>>181199
We should establish fulgurite currency.

>>181926
Herp derp name

>>181926
That's kinda genius since nobody could counterfeit it... We totally should

OP. How can I get winterfells population up

>>181946
Only near genius, as a matter of fact.

Plains has to go first since they are attacking

Heres My troops though
1st Legion: Rome, Alesia, Pompeii (65% Legion 25% Archers 10% Monk Grenadiers
2nd Legion: Winterfell, Storms End
(50% Legion 50% Bowmen)

Forts: Aquila ( 40% Bowmen 60% Legion)
Arcanum (40% Bowmen 60% Legion)

So no one of the plains nation ended up showing up today...

Well, it was fun while it lasted folks.

>>183662
Gods damm you, you lazy ass plainsfags. Just another reason I'm glad I'm no longer considered one of you.

>>183662
dude im here what do you want me to do?

shit dude some of us have semi lives and are busy

>>184118
im confused on how the war is working in this thread...

thread isnt rip yet...

>>184173
Put your non war turn first

>>184381
op do we have the last sheet? All other tribes have but us.

Also sorry for not showing up on time

Last thread said we was at 16 so this is 17:

Action: bring bandits and together at our settlment closesed to the east.
Action: have scouts and war planners bring everyone up to speed, the scouts telling us about the land around, the enemies, etc
Culture: stop burning land for chief when dead(honestly i think this trait went away when we become sedentary but if we havent then get rid of it now)

If the scouts DONT know the territory, even though they are nomads, then spend one action on searching the territory for the year, and THEN at the end of the year/turn have meeting to increase soldier morale/inform EVERYONE on what plan is. I have plan from last thread too if any plains read this later

Yo islanders. Make fucking spears or halberds or pikes. They are good against cavalry and were mainly used for the protection of infantry against horse back.

>>184874
Why have dragoon toothed and normal

>>185109
Triarii carry the long spears

Each legionaries Equipment
-Steel sword
-Steel Helmet
-Ironbark plate
-Scutum (steel lined shield)
-2 pila (atlatls)
-Triarii carry Spears as well.

Triarii are the veterans normally

>>185158
If we being real
They also carry daggers and Wood cutting axes and Spades

>>184417
do this.

>>185158
m8 acording to your resources. you have no steel only iron. and no forge to create weapons or armor

Well that was weird

>>185409
Steel is a tech. Water tribe and Sky also have steel

>>185638
IT'S CALLED LAKE TRIBE YOU ABLEIST CISGENDERED ROMAN-KIN RACIST

>>185652
oh yeah(we really need a tech list)
what about the forges and specialized building for production.

>>185658
OP never asked for these and I've got me steel atlatls
Any complaints, direct them to him

>>185652
Sorry waterjew

>>185664
>island romans
more like pretend-carthaginians

>>185662
plains nation built them, so it is kinda unfair if other tribes don't need them

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>>185672
>>185662

>>185672
>>185676
Good for them
But you don't need a forge to make steel, just to massproduce it

>>185681
you need a way to smelt it

>>185683
Fire + Ore = smelted ore

>>185676
You could have just skipped the forges... just say tech: smithing

>>185683
Do you have a war turn ready..
Since you is attacking

>>185685
>>185691
i guess we could
but since op let us build it, it is kinda unfair to let it be a useless building.
so i suggest that plains can produce higher quality and faster. then nations without the buildings

>>185699
No, just build more
Higher quality can only be produced with better kilns and a higher understanding in chemistry

>>185699
your primitive way of forging causes the products to be less pure and consistent
also a dedicated forge allows faster smelting

>>185676
just lurking
you have full leather armors, crossbows and iron swords, axes, spears, bolts,arrows etc.

>>185734
You could join a tribe you know.. if you want

Join Lake Tribe if you want to build the Third Temple of Solomon and make the goyim pay for their sins

>>185743
Don't you mean beg for magic

>>185747
>beg for magic
Negotiate =/= beg

>>185734
we created building to have the finest! of armor and weapons
so our iron is better quallity then others

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>>185754
Yet you still don't have steel
Get with the times swarthy barbars

>>185751
How many negotiations have you done...
How many of them were shit jew deals...

>>185758
If they agreed to them that means they liked them

>>185757
good luck upgrading your regular weps to steal.
the forge was to upgrade and produce

just cause you know how to make it does not mean that you can
a regular fire is not hot enough ;^)

>>184417
change the culture. to tech
tech: steel
our buildings should let us auto upgrade

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>>185754
You don't even have heavy armour...

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>>185779
Nice edit
I'll give you an old bear as a gift

>>185775
the island needs to waste a action

you can continue being lake jews

>>185787
No action in Lake
Is an action wasted my friend

>>185792
your words not mine

>>185794
What words?

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>>185792
>>185775
4chanx saves deleted shit

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>>185804
>4chanx

>>185804
lol new trip time

>>185811
>Drumpf

>>185816
>bernvictim

>>185821
I'm a #CruzMissile thank you very much

>>185787
Now you're just being plain retarded because you built a forge because you thought you were so cool

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Plains Nation gathers their strength for war. The time allowed to gather everyone also allows Island nation to gather their strength after scouts report some hostilities at the borders. They also learn to develop steel weapons in their forge and are able to use some in their upcoming battle.

At Dafuq Owtovit, the easternmost city, the armies gathered numbers:
50 bandits
50 horse archers (w/ backup knives)
50 horse spearmen (w/ backup sword)
50 infantry swordsmen
(feel free to rearrange the troops how you see fit)

>>185844
OP
what advantages do our forge and proffesion buildings give us?

>>185850
Gives you mass production, more soldiers have forged weapons

>>185854
what would the current ratio be of our soldies with forged weapons versus island?

Hey Island, you should build some catapults

>>185873
Already have
You gave us the tech

>>185875
How many do you have?

>>185876
Like 10 or something

>>185881
Good luck defending, need anything btw?
I can't bring my troops for I am a man of my word, but I didn't say anything about supplies

>>185888
Jewish Bears

>>185888
Maybe some Prototype mortars?

>>185900
Unfortunately the bears have not FULLY integrated into my society yet, but I will send you Olkin Behrsson, the ex governmental representative of the Bears, and currently the wisest bear we have, he'll be an official consultant for your tribe
>>185905
You don't have any gunpowder plus there's a huge risk of it exploding

>>185908
I have gunpowder. I have been trading with Sky for years

>>185908
Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn

Also Op be sure to include one jewish bear ( called Olkin) in my forces

>>185910
You have catapults already, and I don't have many mortars available
But if you teach me Spirit Link, only Spirit Link, I don't care for any other spells
I shall give you the tech and 3 of my best ones so far
Next turn
I'm a spell-starved Jew, I gotta do what I gotta do

>>185915
I can only give him to you next turn
And he's old, fighting will most likely get him killed

>>185916
Damnit shekel stein, SNAP OUT OF IT

>>185863
You guys have swords, spears, and arrows with steel tips. Islanders have steel swords as far as I know, they never specified their steel in other weapons.

Islanders steel production occurs in Winterfell, and due to structured military outside of the civilian life every legionary has one steel gladius. Their armor is iron from the ironbark tree.

Their armor is grown from the Ironbark trees, which is a unique resource on their island.

Yeah, everyone on your side and all the legions have forged weapons. Island monks and bowmen do not.

>>185920
Dude, seriously I just want a fucking minor spell, is that too much to ask?

>>185923
Guess what muh nigga.. Me and plains have the same bows :DDDDD

Ty for the trade when we wuz tribes

>>185923
Also steel helmets

I think in the future, I'll be more strict about military statistics, I didn't think anyone would actually fight this early. For now, we'll go with the numbers established, now I gotta come back with combat info.

>>185923
AYOOO HOL UP

How can they have steel everything when we islanders have to spend a turn to make steel swords and helmets. Surely all our shit would be steel then.

Just something to think about

>>185939
Gimme Spirit Link or I'll call up Mugabe's boys and tell him that a Rhodesian got loose

>>185923
we got special production buildings that we spent a 2 turns making

so basically we get a tech and we auto upgrade

>>185939
>>185946

>>185946
>>185939
True, Island spent tech turns producing armor and weapons, but not action turns mass producing it. So Plains has multiple weapons that citizens can equip in war.

But the structure of Island military demands all career soldiers to have weapons.

Okay can i post war turn now

>>185945
He wants his white farmers back. Also he's gonna die anyday now. Also I'll go be a refugee in germany...

>>185983
You're not attacking
>>185844
>>185949
Is this formation final? Who do you want to send where?

Roll 3d10, add soldiers fighting with bonuses where appropriate. I'll assign death count every turn.

Offensive:
> Horse x2
> Grenades: x2

Defensive:
> Iron armor + Shields: x2.5
> Leather: x1.5

I still have no idea what I'm doing

>>186003
>I'll go be a refugee in germany
Well, you do have the skin color for it
___:^)____

>>186006
horses should gave a way better buff then primitive grenades

also copy pasta from last thread

Action: Give bandits looting rights and pay them gold to help us in takeover Aquilla and Arcanum cities.

Action: Attack and Arcanum and Aquila cities. Mobilise more army (mostly horse archers) attack and burn islander farms and mines to destroy their food and ore supplies. Conquer this two cities. Use horse archers to harass legion army. Use our new tactic.
Use swarm and fire magic.

New tactic: Cantabrian circle
A group of horse archers or mounted javelin throwers would form a single-file rotating circle. As the archers came around to face the enemy formation they would let their missile fly. The effect was a continual stream of arrows or javelins onto an enemy formation.
The tactic was usually employed against infantry and bowmen. The constant movement of the horsemen gave them an advantage against the less mobile infantry and made them harder to target by the enemy's missile troops. The maneuver was designed to harass and taunt the enemy forces, disrupt close formations and often draw part, or all, of the enemy forces into a disorganized or premature charge. This was commonly used against enemy infantry, especially heavily armed and armored slow moving forces such as the legions of the late Roman Republic and early Roman Empire.

>>186012
>horses
>giving a buff during a siege
boi u cray

>>186012
You should roll

>>186020
we are gonna stay outside the walls and starve them
if they fight we will rekt them with arrow spam

>>186026
>starve them
>without a sea blockade
>arrow spam
>horse archers
>limited arrows
You haven't thought this through, have you?

Rolled 2, 1, 7 = 10 (3d10)

>>186033
swarm harassment. they will need the other city's to build additional farms. and the arrows we can mass produce.
horse archers will just run around circles of their troops

>>186046
>run around circles in a walled city
>giving away your strategy so easily
>not realising that Rome by itself can feed the walled cities with boats
>not realising you'll have to give up troops in order to get more arrows
>not realising that bandits are pillagers and not siegers meaning they will probably give up on the moment they realise the siege has failed and there's no payout
You REALLY haven't thought this through

>>186033
Alright, a siege will be different then. The war will only be fought if the walled citizens choose to fight them outside. Otherwise, every turn the population count will lower by 5. You will also need to set up logistics to feed your own, but being the beseigers in your own land and having horses, it shouldn't be too hard for you so I'll ignore it for now.

>>186003
Do you choose to meet them in battle? In each town you have:
> Aquila: 50
> Arcanum: 25
The remaining legions are within walking distance outside Aquila.

no they will run out and fight us

swarm will fuck their supplys up, as a form of city bombardment. as far as i remember after eating dat meat it became genetic


30 horse archers 30 lancers and 70 land (35 bandit 35 normal) troops to aquila

make ulan bator set up some supply tents and sheeit for our troops

rest is going to arcanum

>>186077
You need to factor in the fact that even if the cities are blockaded by land, their port is perfectly open and not blockaded, meaning they can get supplies from other towns and thus, not starved

>>186008
>implying Im a kaffir

Niggers here don't go on 4chan they too busy in prison or dying of aids

maybe before continuing we should set up a system of how this is going to work.
how long is a war turn compared to a regular turn.
do tactics give bonuses
how powerful is our swarm magic

>>186077
No. The legionaries and bowmen man the walls.
The shields of the legionaries will give extra cover to bowmen.
Which town is they attack?

>>186099
we are blockading both towns.

arcanum has no water acces
aquila has a lake port i guess

and we are using our swarms to fuck up food supply

>>186096

In the past, it was a roll system, and I reward good tactics.

You roll for success after telling what you want to do with which troops, and the enemy does the same. I then explain the outcome. The war will end when either one team forfeits or until the very end. Each turn will have losses according to how devastating the attack is.

They attacking two towns in one turn.. so they split their army?

Well then I have to wait this turn out until i can move my 1st and 2nd legions?

>>186113
So this turn you can move your legions to fight in the next turn, and use your walled people to fight this turn.

>>186112
i mean
while we are blockading. can we continue to do regular stuff until they decide to meet us in battle?

>>186118
their other citys are fucking far away, and they need to travel the sea.
should take more then a turn to let them catch up

>>186118
Okay Ill put my first legion on ready in cannon Ships, also onboard the ships is my catapults. and the second Legion on cannon Ships

They both wait at arcadia

>>186127
Wait They wait at Megara

g2g

will be back in 2 hours

>>186046
>>186130
So the swarms destroyed your crops, you are now at no population growth in Aquila! It has now affect in the war short-term, but will be devastating afterwards.

>>186176
Oh well. We were only growing at 3 in aquila.
Which is shit.

Must i roll now?

Rolled 9, 10, 2 = 21 (3d10)

My archers launch arrows at the horsefags
The legionaries hold shields over their heads while the walls give 3/4 cover. We rain arrows on their Horse archers mainly

Gimme that sweet sweet horse archer blood

>>186342
Aim their horses, they only have specialized cavalry, they can't fend off against your superior heavy infantry

>>186345
Thats what Im doing. Our infantry will smash right through them

Plains:
> Attack: (10) + (2 x 30) = 70
> Defense: (30 x 1.5) = 45
> Total Numbers: 130
Island:
> Attack: (21) + (20) = 41
> Defense: 50 + (2.5x20) = 100
> Total Numbers: 50

The defense does not budge on either side. The destruction of crops and starvation among the troops raises concerns in the camp, and a starvation modifier lowers morale and strength in the legions, adding a -10 defense for every turn starved for the walled legions!

Also, if the other neutral nations want to step in and tip the advantage one way of another, feel free.

>>186462
The numbers mason

>>186462
Sky Priestess, might we step in to quell this assault? Or would you prefer to remain neutral, or perhaps assist in a less direct way?

>>186479
Two things, one mouse you're a whiny cunt whose mad at plains for being the only one with a different opinion, don't go acting so high and mighty now (get it cos sky tribe) that you're gone

Also the sky tribe and plains have been friends. Why would you attack us? They wish to remain neutral, and so we won't force them to attack with us

Rolled 3, 1, 7 = 11 (3d10)

>>186462
The 1st Legion sails down the river by Aquila. They land out of sight of the town. We crawl into the forests. Its green land so i assume theres trees everywhere. We laugh arrows at the horses. The legions sit in the front shrubbery and the arrow men behind. The monks put ruins on the trees to the flanks. We keep the catapults on board the ships. The hastarii put up spears. They can't see our numbers.

First legion is made up of Rome, Pompeii, Alesia.

The second Legion boards cannon ships and heads for Dafuq Ovoit ( fucking weird name)

The trees are key OP. they is rough terrain

>>186510
I never said I would attack you. I am, however, convinced that you attacking the island nation is no reason for us to halt trade with them.

>>186511
Guys were only going for the city on OUR side of the river, we have the terrain boost, there's no water, and we know the turf, the other city is in their biome, don't mess with it.

>>186468
Attack is roll plus number of attackers times offense bonus.

Defense is number of attackers times defense bonus.

>>186533
You already attacked nigguh. You gonna die.

Also you don't know my legions have arrived until there are arrows in your horses

>>186538
Do we get a stealth bonus?

>>186511

>>186080
These are where I'm getting the numbers from. I assume Khan'd roll for attacking Aquila, since the rest can't reach Arcanum until next turn.

>>186479
I would prefer to stay neutral we don't get much by participating in the war

>>186564
You'll get gold.. if you Teach my peeps elk Cavalry shieet

>>186550
Sky nation remains out of the conflict, and continues trade as we would in times of peace (plains nation, as our allies, do not get excluded from trade due to aggression against another nation but we do not cut off the islanders)
Action: search for oil
Tech: research aerodynamics
Culture: being clean and healthy is very important.
>>186564
Done.

>>186564
in case the lake nation decides to embargo the plains nations. will you counter embargo?

Rolled 2, 9, 1 = 12 (3d10)

>>186633
is any other plains nation member up?

gf is bugging me for attention, and it is 22.48 in my timezone currently

>>186633
Yes

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>>186642
greatest ally

Plains Horsemen:
> Attack: (12) + (2 x 30 archers) = 72
> Defense: (30 x 1.5) = 45
> Total: 130

Island 1st Legion:
> Attack: Attack: (11) + (33 archers x 2) + (5 stealth bonus) = 82
> Defense: (33 x 2) = 66

Aquila:
> Defense: (20 x 2.5) + 50 - 10 = 90

The damage is incredible. The horse archers are entirely surprised by the volley of arrows in the forest, and scores of horse archers die! 20 archers, specifically. But now, the lancers and infantrymen are alarmed, and the defensive bonus of the walled citizens are still getting lower.

Plains at Aquila: 10 horse archers, 30 lancers, 70 infantrymen
Island at Aquila: 50
1st Legion: 135

Rolled 7, 1, 4 = 12 (3d10)

>>186710
spell it out for me

G E N O C I D E

We aint moving. We stay in the forrest. The legionaries put up tested formation. The spears at the front. The archers at the back. The monks put Offensive zonal runes in the shrubbery at the entrance to forrest. Shields are up.

We launch another volley of arrows aimed at the lance cavalry and remaining archer cavalry

>>186765
whats with the shitty rolls

Anyone still here?

Guys we gotta hang back, just use swarm to starve 1 city.

Stuff like hanging back, using arrows from far away, remember last thread strategy??? Flanking the enemy while staying far away??? Only go for the non water city. That's the only one we need.

>>186710
Hahahaha! I just realized that these waring nations are still trading.

>>186930
Not with eachother, they never started trading with eachother. There is no trade to embargo, so this >>186633 is pointless agreement. Hahahaha.

>>186930
Plains Not with island

I'm back, what did i miss?

We actually traded way back

>>186961
War, you missed war.

>>186948
Do your roll

>>186961
We under attack

>>186948
gonna be my last post for tonight
you want us to retreat. and only fight in open plains. go for arcanum.
i think the dead crops should be enough to fuck their city over a little.
maybe use our wildfire to start a fuckhuge fire to cover our retreat and fuck up the area. creating a flat place

>>186976
What if, for extra offensive power, we put explosive runes in the arrows? With better acuracy than the grenades

>>187010
That would require a normal turn probably.

Rolled 7, 5, 10 = 22 (3d10)

if not better idea comes from dreamer

DONT USE INSTANTLY. let him have a chance to refine

evacuate ulan bator. use our wildfire to start a huge fire on the entire way back to the plains. the fire caused by this should be big enough to make sure it cant be put out by simply pouring buckets of water. maybe have a few brave horsemen ride around their defensive positions in a yuge ark to start fires around the city, so the city will 100% be in hell on earth

>>186988
Roll

Some plains guy roll damnit

>>187017
I will wait for Dreamer, otherwise I'll update.

>>186976
>>187010
And even if we fail to shoot a horseman, we would explode him

>>187017
and by city i meant aquila. making sure our own city burns is retarded

>>187017
wild Fire can't melt stone beams

Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>186976
Only go for arcaeum, the plains is an advantage. We stay far enough from city to seize it. Two years with no supplies is more than long enough to starve them without freezing tech. Let's also burn the fields around and keep it in a blaze so that other troops can't help. If the Legion comes by start to retreat and use the arrows while running technique. Range is one of our advantages. We also know the terrain of the plains. When the Legion gets deep into the plains we gallop full speed into them in a circle and destroy them from the back, the phalanx doesn't work when attacked from all sides. Arrows/spears may get a few, but the overwhelming suprise will stop them.

>>187034
so what about aquila

??

>>187045
You have troops there

>>187049
>>187017
use mine. i ordered a retreat

>>187032
Nice reference bruh.

>>187017
>>186765
Plains Firemen:
> Attack: (22) + (2 x 10 x 3 fire bonus) = 82
> Defense: (10 x 1.5) = 15
> Total: 10

Island 1st Legion:
> Attack: Attack: (12) + (33 archers x 2) = 78
> Defense: (33 x 2) = 66

Shit is getting real.

The chief orders all the plains horsemen save 10 brave volunteers to move onto the town of Arcanum to join there camped force there. The ten stay behind to get slaughtered by the oncoming assault of arrows from the forested legions, but not before circling around the city and forest and putting everything ablaze. The legions, meanwhile, suffer tragic losses, many rushing to the river, but still many being cooked in their own metal armor. The fire burns at the wooden foundation of the walls as well, and some spread to the already barren croplands and houses. The fire encircles the legions and the city, but it grows weaker at the river and if they lay some path to get across, perhaps they can save the citizens and the soldiers. Every turn will cause -5 to Aqula's population (including the wallmen) and - 2 to the 1st legion until everyone escapes the fire across the river. There may be some defensive runes that islanders can quickly draw to prevent fire's spread...

Current numbers:

Plains total: 170
Aquila: 57 (-5 per turn)
Island 1st Legion: 115 (-2 per turn)
Island Legions outside Aquila Theatre: 65

>>187159
We also put defensive runes behind the 1st legion so they can just back out
The monks from the first put defensive runes in a path to the boats.
We help the soldiers and civilians out of the city.

>>187159
her op, can you like add on the map like a representation of soldiers? I was under the impression they were all to the east, can you add like the fire? and the soldiers?

>>187159
How can 10 men Set a whole forest on fire.. and a city and the surrounds Fuck me. They killed 20 of the 1st Legion..

Also surely we would have hit the retreating more

>>187209
a. We have horses
b. We have fire magic
c. I was always in favor of not splitting our troops: literlally a moral of the romans was: "divide and conquer". I mean i know some of our plains people were smart, but we were spreading ourselves too thin.

Like always, we are willing to surrender if you get rid of that 1 colony. No more losses on either side. Maybe well even trade resources with you

>>187159
Did you take into account the Defensive runes at the flank.. It would stop fire and allow retreat
>>186511
>>186511
>>186511

>>187225
my roll rekt ur rool m8

>>187217
You have a fuck ton of flesh targets on foot. They are retreating and have 0 defence. What will happen....

>>187228
your offence was 4 higher. Not fucking 20

>>187235
Its your offense vs their defense, and vice versa

>>187237
well they had 15 defence

>>187245
True, and you killed all 10 attackers. The rest fled.

>>187235
get fucked lake nigger :^)
our superior scorched earth tactic wins

Rolled 2, 8, 5 = 15 (3d10)

>>187247
>>187203
Heres my turn
Also
2nd Legion uses cannon boats and Blows up Dafuq Owoit from nice barrage distance

>>187249
Your losses
30 Cavalry
Ours
20 Infantry

>>187235
we have a range advantage, OP you remember my post comparing ranges that our armies could go? They DONT HAVE ENOUGH POWER to hit us with arrows.

Now they do have SHIELDS, so that stops them, but fire burns them in their armor.

So logically in this range we SHOULDNT have taken damage if we retreated that far away. The fire will also prevent the romans from crossing by the time we siege the city. When we do, we can destroy them by flanking them on all sides when they're deep out of their forests. Calvary has a big advantage this way.

>>187249
they're islanders, not lakes. Also dont be a dick like Mouse.

"shall we quell the assult?"

You turned your back on us so quick. And now you're trying to manipulate a tribe that is peacefull into fighting US. The sky tribe and the plains have had alliances for a long time. OP even put in a culture thing.

Btw lets leave the northern cities by the water. Thats not really our turf anyway. Plus its too close to the water, if we keep dividing our resources were gonna lose.

>>187258
remember the city is rekt

>>187271
You don't have boats

>>187277
we are leaving the costal citys we have

>>187277
yeah i think we should let you take them. I never really wanted to expand so far north. Its also too close to lake which isnt our turf.

>>187280
>>187279
Thats pretty meta since i just chose to attack them

Also too late i spent the last turn getting the second legion into place
Dafuq is gonna burn

Op do you have turns

Its like 1 AM here. But I'll try stay awake

>>187017
>>186765
Everyone except 10 horsemen retreated, and the ten only stayed back to set ablaze everything. The range on the wildfire spells is small, so it requires up close and personal contact. Think Flames spell in Skyrim.

When Khan'd said 'a few brave men', I just put a number on it.

>>186080
This is what I'm using as troop arrangement.

>>187280
should we do a scorched earth policy, fuck up the Forrest a little.

>>187287
brah your fleet is in megara, to far away to be effective

>>187291
>>187292
>>187280
lets pause til tomorrow.
stayed up to see the retreat outcome. i need to sleep now

>>187299
SEE>>186511

In the meantime, I can run non-war turns from lake and sky, I think Lake made one already.

>>187303
Fuck that

>>187287
. So do you want us to come over there and defend the cities you want? It wasnt specefic on where our soldiers were so i was clarifying with op that all of our soldiers should be going to the ONE city.

Also op please come up with forces for ships, it cant be infitite. Do they have cannon boats? Or just boats, that have cannons on it? Because boats that were recently created wouldn't be able to carry the heavy loads that cannons need to fire?

Another reason why a map of where soldiers are would be useful. Khan is talking about a different city further west(which actually has a river) and Legate is talking about the one directly on the water.

>>187303
>>187308
ill keep it going dont worry khan. I'll do my best to keep it together.

>>187319
Just post turn

>>181187
Culture:Fulgurite currency
Tech: Steel Cuirasses
Tech: Loom

>>187346
>>187306

>>187319
When you gathered all forces, that included forces from Dafuq. No forces are in Dafuq at the moment.

There were 40 in the second legion heading for Dafuq. Only two cannons were built by the Islanders to be on boats, both on two boats. To summarize:

> Two boats with cannons
> Four boats with 10 man capacity
> 40 soldiers: 20 archers and 20 legionaries.

>>186511
Using this, which was two turns ago. Given the distance to Dafuq, I'd say the fleet needs one more turn to arrive, so the next best thing the Islanders can do is defend Arcanum and evacuate Aquila. Plains cannot stop the assault on Dafuq, that would be meta.

Rolled 5 + 1 (1d10 + 1)

>>187331

>action: use swarm insects to transfer our special necromancer's curse(disease) to infect romans.

>action: use horse scouts to set fire ENCIRCLING roman troops [then hide inside the flames while getting closer to the troops we do this fast so that they cant set up runes]
>action: bandits rush the city from the inside with guns. With the roman infantry inside the city walls, they cant effectively use a phalanx or throw spears/fire arrows with great accuracy. The bandits will suffer MASSIVE causulties, but with guns, horses, and steel, they can win.

Additionally the people of the cities have never seen horses. Think about city riots... Why do they use horses in the city? the answer is when horses are in front of you neighing and screaming and you've never seen one before(inner city people are ignorant of this, they may have seen horses, but never one in a frenzy) you PANIC. This was how pizzaro beat the incans. Thousands of soldiers versus a few hundred. There were MANY other factors, but our numbers are closer together, and this is in a city, not land. Also guns vs these kind of weapons GUNS WIN.

>>186572
>>187346
My mistake, I don't have lake and have two sky! which one do you agree on?

Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>187365
screwed up 2nd roll, wrong format.
>>187354
agreed about meta

>>187354
Retreat from Aquila. The monks put defensive runes to get out the forrest and city safely

also get some civilians to make a landable bay by the river waterfall

Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>187366
sky pristess was from thread 1 and has been playing as sky for much longer. So i would believe it goes to her.

also final roll

>>187378
as always peace offer stands.

>>187374
Roll 3d10. Also, all of your troops are immune to the disease, so I don't know how you could transfer it. The origin was never stated to come from insects.

Is the city you're attacking Aquila?

>>187365
You guys retreated. I don't think you know what retreats mean.

>>187388
Pretty sure they on way to Arcanum

>>187388
so disease either transfered by air, insects, water, or blood. So we take mosquitoes armed with blood from plague people(immune people still carry traces of disease in them). Since our disease was created by the necromancer the islanders should have little immunity.

thx for advice about roll

>>187391
we sent some scouts back to survey troops to remove cloud of war.

>>187366
I don't know if mouse is still here so I'm going to mix our turns:
Culture:Fulgurite currency
Tech: Steel Cuirasses
Culture: being clean and healthy is very important.

Rolled 9, 8, 3 = 20 (3d10)

Arrows and the defence runes will keep us safe. They can't even cross the runes so yea
We shoot the horsemen and also throw grenades


To the boats

>>187422
And since he didn't mention scouts coming from the people going to Arcanum in the last turn. Im assuming theres like 1 or 2

>>187406
That sound good

>>187422
what horsemen? If youre refering to the fire scouts thats meta and you cannot do that. You have n clue that the horsemen are anywhere near you.

>>187437
we can see them coming towards us for christ sake you burnt down the forrest You can't hide

>>187445
youre in the middle of a fire

>>187437
The bandits are attacking inside Aquila, correct?

>>187445
also its a defence turn

>>187454
arcaneum. Again im extremely confused on where people think our troops are, if you cant draw it, can you explain where our troops are and our knowledge on where the enemies troops are

>>187468
When did the bandits enter arcanum?

>>187473
they were supposed to be following our troops remember when we asked them?

Op can you just play our retreat from Aquila
Then we head west down the river in our boats

>>187484
I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO DO THAT THATS WHY I HAD THE FIRE.

>>187479
Arcanum has walls and guards...

>>187489
on a river?

>>187491
The bandits have horses, they simply rush the doors, you guys have to open the doors to attack us, then they rush in with guns and horses, suprising the citizens with mind boggling loud noises. >>187494
circling you guys on land, your army isnt in the water correct?

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Well, this is ugly, but here ya go.

Plains Horde: 100
Plains at Arcanum: 70
1st Legion: 115
2nd Legion: 40
Aquila Garrison: 50
Arcanum Garrison: 25

>>187503
WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE OPEN DOORS AT ARCANUM

>>187505
I just love how hilariously far from the battle the sky tribe is, it's like, this shit is all the way over there, why do I give a fuck.

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Here is sky's turn during the war. The developments will be completed once the war is over, since, this war is not going to take 5 years.

They are developing steel cuirasses and have cultural norms surrounding hygiene. They also make unique, awesome currency by shooting lightning in rocks. Branches of one Fulgurite are the basic unit of the currency.

>>187422
This is our turn
We take the boats down the river to Ulan.

>>187508
how else could you attack the bandits?
>>187505
ok so op, this is the plan, bandits rush the door, if they dont open, theyll work on the latches, or start chopping through

the horse archers will stay far back. FAAR back. We have the suprior range, so well set volleys of arrows on the city. The romans can hold shields, but they cant be open from all front and top. so keep firing and keep up the pressure.

The first legion is surrounded by fire. They have defensive runes, but its biological. (eg lakers couldnt go on land but water sweeps the shores so logically fire works too. additionally the islanders never specified what kind of protection. Since they were burning in their armor earlier i will asume that they dont have fire protection.)

also again with the swarm. Since op didnt specify the kind of transmission, im going for the "works for everything" solution. Blood. We can use monsquitoes to bite then. Even if the disease doesnt work that way, insects from a new land will transmit some disease at least

>>187521
ikr lol

lake is so close too but its like they dont exist

>>187531
i believe we have brick walls in that city correct?

also im aware aqilla has walls, but what about arcadium? when were those built?

>>187526
Fulgurite is sand, glass technically. It's production necessitates a priest traveling to the desert to strike the sand with his magic. It is difficult to make and impossible to counterfeit.

Alright rolling for defence at Arcanum

The same tactic that Aquila had. Legionaries hold shields above archer and himself. The wall gives archers 3/4 cover.

We launch volleys at bandits and horse archers.

Also op the walls are full stone since this town had a quarry and Theres no wood for hundreds of miles.

Heres what first Legion does>>187531

>>187558
like i said u ARE surrounded by fire

>>187547
check arcanum >>181478
Also stop going full retard with the insects. We all had the disease and we are all immune.

>>187562
DEFENSIVE RUNES YOU RETARD
We lay them infront and the fire dies. Jebus

>>187570
>>187542
they dont protect against fire. They're physical stuff. So youre saying on the island all fires you lit just died out? Or the water and air just dissapears?

let op decide

>>187578
Otherwise we just lay down our shields on it make a bridge

>>187587
there is still a masive amount of heat against the flames. It doesnt work that way

>>187578
Also ask about scorching air and smoke.

>>187594
I meant to take credit for that comment.

>>187594
thank you mouse, the smoke would choke you out before and you cant see or do pretty much anything
we would be able to flame up everything so fast because of previous magic practice and with horses.

>>187608
So I'm only an asshole when I argue against you? Fucking interesting that!

>>187608
Fine we throw some rune grenades on them. The explosion will fuck the fire .

>>187422
You arrange a bridge with your metal shields to spread the fire thin. You direct women and children out of the city first, followed by the soldiers. Unfortunately, there were some civilians trapped inside burning homes, and though brave legionaries saved a few, others burned with the fire.

1st Legion: 113
Aquila garrison + civilians: 52

>>187578
Defensive runes protect foreign people from entering the city, so bandits cannot enter but all other things such as fire, smoke, insects, and animals can. If runes are destroyed from within the barrier, an opening can be made.

Going to wait a little while in case either one of y'all wants to change your attack strategy in Arcanum.

g2g folks, will update your turn in a couple!

>>187628
but thats meta as shit because you were planning to try runes first before i told you that wouldn't work.

Anyway explosions would provide fuel and just spread the fire further AND closer towards you. Also maybe you could throw a grenade but how could you do it while being choked by smoke and ash.

>>187625
i was thanking you for making a point i didnt notice.

>>187631
see ya op

>>187631
1st Legion goes on the boats to Karakorum. We have siege engines (catapults).

Aquila Forces Go to Ulan Bator and burn that down since no walls or troops. Kill all men and take women as slaves.

Arcanum keeps gates shut. The archers man the walls and the Legionaries throwing Javelins (atlatls) at any enemy who comes close to gates.
The archers target Archer Cavalry

2nd Legion Fires cannons from our cannon ships and blows up dafuq Owtovit

>>187669
"All men" are trained archer calvary. It's not as easy as you make it sound.

>>187669
YOU CANT MOVE YOUR FIRST LEGION WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND???

Aquilla forces? whatre those? The guard? We have city guard in all cities, its a social thing, not a building.

Arcanum, the archers cant hit calvary because they dont have the right kind of bows.(too far) and the atlatls wont works so great because the horses are moving the bandits fast.) (although you will get minor causaulties)

>>187707
FUCKING RETARD >>187631
>>187631
>>187631
>>187631
Aquila had legionaries and bowmen

We have the same bows. We have longbows. we traded with you guys. Get your fucking head out your ass

>>187704
How on earth did you deal with this retard

>>187729
alright, well we can fire arrows while on horseback. So we it is MUCH harder to hit a moving target. Especially with spears and arrows. On the other hand, we have practice with this.>>187631

Op how the fuck do metal shields stop a fire? its BURNING A FOREST. The trees are on fire. THERE IS SMOKE.

>>187734
It used to be easy. back when he agreed with expansion and technology. but now all he cares about is blood and skulls, I feel as if I know what people feel like when there friends become Khornate berserkers.

>>187744
My archers have 3/4 cover with shields overhead. Its Basically impossible to land a hit

>>187744
Citys near a river m8. Fires weak enough to damp out. Also high rollr.

>>187757
Oh and fire doednt stop. The shields create a path to the river. No, Aquila is in ruins.

>>187744
anyway op is kill so lets chill till he comes back.

>>187746
>offered peace tons of times.
>have peace treaty with just 1 colony conceded.
>willing to trade resources.
>we cant expand anywhere else.
>plains is useless if everyone has horses( what do we do with no other special resources?)
>want war to end.
>Not enslaveing woman and children, allowing them to escape city.

I dont really like war as much as expanding and exploring culture and tech, but i wont stand this guy spitting in our faces. We offer reasonable trades and he wants too much. Once we get this city thats all we want. Were not power hungry maniacs.

>>187753
>>187374
>>187365
>>187422
we both had 9's. That 5 was for swarm plague. 9 for fire. and 9 for bandits rushing. He rolled a 9 for defending, an 8 and a 3. Im going to assume its the 9, so at the very least they take moderate casulties because they are also in heavy armor and have no fire resistance. Also they would be slow moving from breathing in smoke

>>187766
why did you make us destroy aquilla???

new peace offer: trade dafuq owtovit and/or ulan bator in exchange for arcanum. We can also help you rebuilt aquilla, or give resouces as war repartaions.

>>187776

That treaty is what I Initially Offered and you said no..
So why are you reconsidering it??

>>187776
I TOLD YOU ONCE I'VE TOLD YOU A THOUSAND TIMES. THAT CITY ISN'T WORTH GOING TO WAR OVER.

>>187802
your buddy denied the deal. I was willing for that because there was only ONE thing i wanted. Arcanum. If you're willing to deal, i am as well.

desu: i dont remember that deal so well so i could be i wasnt there, and skimmed over it when i read it.

>>187812
How about I burn your capital to the ground and then accept deal..

You burnt down Aquila.. you sick bastard.

>>187824
may i remind you the population simply returned to another city. the buildings were destroyed but not people. I prefer war with purpose beyond destruciton of human life. Anyway, we dont burn down our own buildings after the chiefs death. So you can burn down one of the cities we trade you??? But we wont accept the death of our citizens

>>187812
IF YOU WERE THIS REASONABLE BEFORE THIS USELESS WAR I WOULD STILL BE PART OF THE PLANES TRIBE, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 2 TO 1 *FOR* PEACE INSTEAD OF AGAINST IT!

>>187840
*sigh* Just sign the peace agreement before kahn wakes up.

>>187840
the deal wasnt like this if i remember right. Also horses were in the previous deal. Now they promised not to trade them so im cool with the deal the way it is now.

Im not horribly unreasonable, maybe youre confusing me with others. I was trying to keep the tribe from splitting, but you were going insane. You cant let people walk over you or else they will keep doing it. If they got horses that would lead to calvary etc etc which would lead to us being destroyed. They were going to go for us next because of gold. Also were had the easiest territory because not mountains or lake in the way.

>>187853
yes lets.

I agree to these terms, do you island?

>>187866
They weren't walking over us! They had one city! They were receiving resources and you and kahn spazzed out because "herp derp, those are our resources" what part of that was me going insane or them walking over us?

>>187890
we practically begged them not to put a city in that spot and said we would trade, but they put it there anyway. Anyway then they disprespected us by saying we could never win in war.

Now that may sound childish, but i will not sit down and take it up the ass like britain and france with germany before world war 2. (also wasnt khan, that was winged sun)

anyway lets put this behind us and work towards peace. We can teach you how to horse. We can give you gold, help you set up a gold mine in the desert, all kinds of stuff.

>>187903
Is this because you realise how futile it is to fight me?? I can burn down your capital, Ulan, Your mines near sky and dafuq Owtovit and then just head back to my home....

>>187890
What do you want me to do?

>>187916
ulan isnt my capitol... also with what army? Apparently first legion headed to lake.

If you are refering to you city guard, our cities have guards too all practicied in bows, and have horses.

>>187922
accept the peace deal. if you dont like the terms, offer a new one.

>>187925
Honestly Im realizing how much other people think im a warmonger. I dont really like war, I like city building and stuff. I play games like banished, not total war. I want peace. I want as many people playing the civ thread to stay happy. If we "trade cities" then I think everyone gets what they want. Plus I think wed rather save resources than continue fighting.

>>187925
Really >>187669
How about a fully trained army with siege weapons versus like 0 town guard since you took all warriors. what is in the city is the old young and women

>>187940
i checked the last like 2 threads and searched "catapults" and i saw sky trying to trade with us but i see no mention of you guys building them. I see trading for the tech, but no building of them. OP can you confirm? Anyway, if you guys still have city guard, We still have them. I only said warriors, not city guards. They werent on my mind when I chose to move troops

anway, deal?

its mutually beneficial, and you wont be seen as warmongers. If you burn down our cities when we want peace, youll be seen just as evil as us.

>>187956
Siege engines can also be cannons mate

Either way you're fucked I will kill civilians

>>187986
Nope. You are the warmongers

You started the war over a city
Now we gonna end it

>>187998
cannons are trash against horses. They move too fast and cannons arent easily aimed Since we have no walls, its useless. Your siege engines would be wiped out. Mouse, can you see how im being reasonable? This is my last warning before we take more cities.

Don't test me.

>>187998
Dammit! Where's legate when we need him!

>>188013
do you want them to win?

I want peace. The legate ran off because of raging after losing a city. Im done with war. Island, youre legion is at sea, you dont have any cannons because they're with the legion, not the city guard. We have a city guard as well, much more trained equipped with horses. Just accept the deal.

>>188024
Legate would've allowed peace.

>>188041
Jesus fuck! Island is legate. The fucker quit at peace!

>>188315
Maybe he just went to sleep, op is gone, so well do this tomorrow.

Anyway mouse do you want to make a pact that in any wars we are in we wont hurt civilian life?

that separates us from the baddies.

>>188370
Like the Geneva convention in real world? That sounds like a brilliant idea, we will have to include temples, libraries, hospitals and possibly guild centers.

>>188398
woah, we are in meidival times dude. Im just saying no harming people who arent in the war. Maybe in the future you can help the plains tribe achieve a kind of literacy and create those buildings, with guild centers, maybe the sky tribe can collect taxes off these buildings and we can give resouces.

>>188444
I know how I'm going to play this.

>>188460
if you have a different idea im all ears.

>>188463
No, I'm going with your idea, I just know how I'm going to word giving you words and guilds.

So heres what I'm gonna do

We go to you capital and burn your farms and only take 15 horses.

Then we trade Arcanum for Ulan and Dafuq Owtovit.
Then I sign an agreement where i can't share horses.
Also we get 20 wimmin from your capital and 10 from ulan . PHAT ASS WIMMIN. Note they won't be killed.

Also an agreement will be struck and I'll never colonise a piece of the plains.

And finally YOU WILL KILL YOUR BANDIT VASSALS IF I GET RAIDED BY BANDITS. So you better get those rogue Bandits in line. Ask your bandits to kill other bandits.

Otherwise say bye to the capital, ulan, Your mines, Dafuq and your monopoly on horses as I'll take all the horses and share them with lake.

Im not talking capturing your cities... The population of males will be genocided, The women in chains, The babies drowned in the river.
We will salt the earth and burn everything you love.

thats my offer.

>>188953
Did-did you make a proxy so that you can do this without looking like the instigator, because if so, you sir, are a god among villains, if not, then you are clearly overreacting.

>>188953
There's no way they'll accept burned farms
Instead ask them to repair your farms for you
The women, c'mon are you serious? There's no need for that
Just ask for horses and protection from banditry
In exchange for what you said

>>189000
No, the ID is same, do you even know what a proxy is?

>>189002
I was asking whether one of the plains nation instigators was one of his proxies. Would've been very clever.

>>189014
Evil yes, but clever.

>>189015
Nah, more like pathetic
>using a proxy to win an imaginary game on a Taiwanese Surfing Championship board
Yep, pretty pathetic

>>189018
>being jewish to get spells on an imaginary game on a Taiwanese Surfing Championship board

>>189002
Yeah that could work. They rebuild aquila while they at it

>>189037
Jewish is a state of mind, something that I cannot reverse
I am cursed by my Hebrewness, oy gevalt.

>>188953
1st legion is still stuck in the fires of aquila.
the boats are headed for dafuq and it will take atleast 6 turns if you decide to turn them around without attacking daduq
meanwhile ulan bator works as a outpost. it will see your army and alart us of its movement

also arcanum jas had the starvation for like 4 turns now. so it has a -40 defensive penalty

>>189083
1st Legion isnt stuck in the fires. Read Op's last post
We on boats toward your capital
We have cannon ships at Dafuq

I have two armies
1st and 2nd Legions
Ulan Bator will burn
Arcanum stronk

>>189085
Watch, watch
He'll now try to turn the whole argument around by saying that you need x turns to do that, and he'll invent game mechanics that OP didn't approve so that he can have an edge in the battle

>>189085
where did you got all of them on boats?
also fire must have dome some dmg to your ships. and even if not you will be sailing in thick smog. so you cant see for shit

>>189018
Not to win, if he simply wanted to win he would've overwritten any action that could in any way assist his enemies against him. No, he wants war, that is, if he is responsible.

>>187766
OP
This is my turn
Tech: Plumbing
We need water in our houses cause we're lazy fucks, and the fact that we're close to a river and we've got pipes oughta help with that
Action: Build a hue forge to mass produce glass and metallic items
Action: Teach the bears to stand with their hind legs and give them an alphabet so that they can become regular pop in our villages

>>187526
We have iron, we have wood, and gold is just a luxury item. We pull back from the lowlanders
Tech: aerodynamics
Tech: loom
Action (if there is room) search for oil.
All this, of course, only if the priestess approves.

>>189104
mouse is the no hurt civilians pact include plague swarms going for crops to force a surrender?

>>189109
Probably would, also to note, it hasn't been signed yet, also also, don't get mad, but I don't approve of giving away guns, powder and lime for trivial goods as we have been receiving in turn.

>>189114
we could use our forge and production buildings to mass produce for you. would require we had the tech for what you want

>>189104
What do you mean by pulling back? Also instead of tech loom we should create a new institution: The Guild of Smiths (So we can have trained blacksmiths and gunsmiths and also an implied forge)

>>189119
I don't like how thoroughly fucked you've gotten on these trade agreements is all, and that sounds like a splendid idea, but I do so like the idea of getting cloth going for early flight technology.

>>189114
>>189119
What's our next trade going to be guys?

>>189123
Glass would be worth some lime, and we may consider giving you something for the hawks. But cannon is too heavy. What, exactly, would you ask for food stuff?

>>189119
for you to start a guild like that you need a pop that is already trained.
we can provide that pop

>>189125
You won't have a pop soon if you don't take my deal. Also we won't burn your farms if you accept

>>189124
For food stuff, I'd take some goats and potatoes
And for glass, some limestone would be nice
For the Hawks, I'd take some of that spidersilk armor


What would you want in exchange for some minor spell?
C'mon guys I'm the only one without magic here, and my Island "friend" isn't giving me even the means of getting magic

>>189126
your deal is shit and your army slow. our horde will be back to rek you

we will send swarms to all your citys and destroy your crops. starve you

give us arcanum and it will stop.
we will help you rebuild aquila.
but no horses

>>189133
Wow, you are WAY too sure of yourself

>>189122
We aren't getting fucked by the trade deals we literally are fucking everyone else because we have all the interesting techs the other tribes have developped and many other superior ones, the materials we trade are only there to allow us to have a surplus and plus we need gold for our Bank and for our Bounty Hunter's Guild, not all tribes have currency. Also maybe replace our search for oil for the guild I can see why you want oil but there's many other stuff we should do first (Research Chemistry, Create a university and also create a Mercenary company) and The Guild of smiths is a good first step towards those some of those institutions.

>>189132
The Hawks as a one time thing, sure. You receive some armor for your generals, I would have to clear the loom by the priestess of course, but it sounds like a good deal. As for spells. I'm not sure. That would take something major. Perhaps as a down payment on cheap food? And not the lightning spell, that shut is integral to our economy.
>>189135
I can deal with that replacement, but I stand by the fact that we are asking too little for our guns.

>>189135
You're not fucking me my friend, we have mutual benefit in this whole ordeal
You might be fucking over everyone else, but at least all my interesting tech isn't being given up so easily

>>189133
Now that is shit

Also your plan meta
Your entire army is on the way to arcanum.
Our army using a river will arrive at your capital in less than one hour or something.

Also I doubt an insect swarm could fly to my cities which are fucking far away