BIRTH OF A CIVILIZATION PART 4

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>>161675
>tfw your suggestion pulled a springtime for hitler

We are going to Make the Empire Great Again.

Our new colonies shall be named, from south to north, Melakam, Daro, Ellu, Harappa, and Fort Durai - in honor of Durai, our great Hinnunaki Sarerimha.

Our glorious Enki's name shall be Parash.

The Hinnunaki people shall know pride in their hearts and riches in their coffers - if the nobles and generals share, that is. Don't want a peasant rebellion on our hands, now. Have you seen the way they live in Kariyadanagar? Dreadful. I'd toss them an ingot for a bath.

The Annunoans will likely send an emissary requesting gifts for some public works project or another. Maybe they'll get uppity and attack the Myceneans for ancestral revenge! Hot-blooded lot, those Annunoans.

Boy thread is going slow today.

Ahh its back
>>161698

I think the inky should be called Pelops
Parash is too indian

The rest i am happy with

Everything is a bit slow today

>>161961
well if you wanna be nitpicky about names, Pelops sounds too greek.

We're more Sumerian than anything else.

>>161698
Sounds good

>>161698
>peasant rebellion
Important that we keep our generals and nobles happy then.

Also: When our armies can destroy Indian tribes in month, we shall rule over all India now! To arms! Do a draft, send our troops over there, smash everything that stands in our way. Employ local generals and zerg rush everything in sight!

>>162002
that was just 1 tribe tho
there are proper Kingdoms in India that we have contact with.

Okay lets call him Zalin

We need to start expanding east into Pakistan. The sooner we can join up with the colony, the better.

>>162014
>proper Kingdoms
The Empire will rule them all. Barbarians, the lot of them!

They can bend the knee and swear undying allegiance - or they can watch their cities burn, their sons killed and their daughters enslaved.

To Victory!

>>162089
>expanding
posts with the keyword "expanding" have my vote!

What if like, we actually had challenges and we weren't conquering the East in large chunks with such ease

>>162650
Because we're way ahead of everyone technologically
Besides, we mostly deal with tribal barbarians in the colonies.

>>162655
Which is why we need a civil war so everybody else can take advantage of our internal instability and take pieces off like vultures.

>>162681
I don't disagree with you, but majority votes win.
and I think the current 2 ones are tied.

>>161698
this

>>162710
this this

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The great Enki - Parash the Wise - figured that the nobles of Hinnunaki, despite their pledge of allegiance, might be up to something, thus he decided to include them in his Administrative system, and lets each of them, elect several representatives.

After doing so, they were sterilized and titled Enalu (vice-roys), 1 for each city in the colonies.
Parash then selected the most suited Hinnunakian noble to take on the title of Enalugal of Hinnunaki.

With that, the colony has been integrated into our Administrative System.

The Annunoans meanwhile, have voiced their discontent about the current state of the Empire.
They feel neglected and demand us taking out Mycenaeans of Rhodes.
They have been inhibiting on our trade, they claim and supposedly even ran Pirate campaigns on the Cretan shores.

Enki Parash decides to support them and we conquer the Island of Rhodes, letting in Annunoan settlers.

The Annunoans however, wiped out the Rhodesian people.

We didn't account for a genocide, but there's nothing we can do about it, at least word of this hasn't gotten out to the Mycenaeans.

After this lovely genocide against the Rhodesian Mycenaeans, the Annunoans ask us for funding for their building projects, to properly settle Rhodes.

Enki Parash, despite having a disdain for his genocidal subjects, funds them regardless.

Later that year, the Enalugal of Hinnunaki requests funds for a large-scale sanitary project in the colonies.

The Enki gladly supports the project and sends funds to the colonies for the constructions of Baths, Thermae, and water reservoirs.

Our borders are fairly established now and no one in the Empire sees any point in expansion anymore.

We are safe, rich and the center of the civilized world.

decades, even centuries pass.
A monument has been erected in honor of Enki Parash in Harappa.

Our old friends the Medes, have meanwhile expanded quite a lot, they're bordering our Empire in the eastern mainland.
Also through the Medians, we have heard about a young man called Cyrus, the Prince of a far-away Kingdom called Persia.
His father is old already, and it is only a matter of time, before Cyrus becomes King.
Though, that is none of our concern.

The linguistic gap between us, the annunoans and hinnunakians, has slightly decreased through our education system in the meantime.

What are we going to do next?

>>162931
What is the date?

>>162946
It's 563 BC

>>162931
Begin to more formally establish our bureaucracy. Our dominions are massive now, and truly it is best for us to wield our Empire as efficiently as possible. What we wield now is a great mace, greater than all else, but we could instead wield a perfect blade, far reaching and powerful.

>>162966
This seems like a good idea. Also lets do some more infrastructure projects, more canals, some roads, irrigation, all of it, everywhere. Especially the colony I don't think we've done any major building there yet.

>>162982
We should also expand our colonies, as they bring us great wealth. Backed by more science, maybe setting up a replica of our great library in our Indian lands.

>>162966
>>162982
>>163017
this

>>162931
lets expand our mainland territory's

>>162931
>>163017
>expand
Our current Enki is a romantic and wants to capture at least some of the glory of his ancestors.
So he commands parts of his armies to go to the Colonies and expand the Empire's holdings.
Any barbarian tribe or nation in India shall either submit or die.

>>162966
The nobles are essential to the Empire though... we can't just mess with their responsibilities.

>>162982
Yes, more of everything! And a Royal Mail Service. Our subjects shall be able to send and receive letters anywhere in our Empire.

>>163083
>mainland territory
We could over-extend our armies to get Persia to conquer/vassalize us successfully.

>>163098
We are not. The nobility exists to maintain the Enki's peace across the realm, and beyond it, while the Beauracrats exist to go through ledgers, and to modify taxation, they are clerks, while the nobles are lords. Beyond that, the Nobility will likely find itself greatly enriched by the employment of their less martial sons into the administration.

>>163098
I actually had a alternative plan as to how we survive the Persian invasions. Simply put we fuck off to India and then later when the Persians are busy dealing with the Greeks return and screw with them to get our homeland back.

It is part of the reason why i want to create a copy of the great library in the colonies, so that the Persians won't annihilate all of our knowledge with it.

>>163111
That's a plan! We could build a mirror capital in India. Show the Indian barbarians the splendor of the Empire! Golden palaces! Great statues of past heroes and kings.

yeah about Persian conquest

we had another 200 years of peace, and just like last time, our army is weak as shit because of that, so persia doesn't need any outside help

>>163105
Actually the nobility only exists, because we didn't appoint any Administrators for the colonies, so they did it themselves (prior to Enki Parash).

The Rest of the Empire is actually using a bureaucratic system of Administration.

We have the Enalus - each of them is a Vice-King for his respective city.
Every Enalu is a eunuch and appointed by the Enalugal.
An Enalugal is a local Administrator - also a Vice-King, but one step above the others.
Enalugals are glorified Governors of a certain region and they aren't Eunuchs, because they're appointed by the Enki (literally King of the World) - who is commonly referred to as the King of Kings, because of this administrative system.

Enalus have to give weekly reports to the Enalugals , who have to give monthly reports to the Enki.

The Enki usually has his Chancellor go through all that and give him a TL;DR - state of the empire - report

>>163232
Like what you give us. No wonder we are doing so well.

>>163252
Precisely.
We introduced the system pretty early , when we conquered Neo-Sumeria.
And ever since we've been in a perpetual cycle of Golden Ages coming, lasting for a century, leaving for a second and then coming back again.

>>163122
Seconded.

The Enki, who suffers from severe inferiority complexes, has decided to tackle a ridiculous building project.

He demands, within less than a decade, for a second Great Library to be built, this time in the colonial city of Tuskar.

That could be done within 2 years at worst, if it weren't for the fact that the Enki also demands us to fill it with a copy of every book , scroll and other scriptures, that exists right now in the Great Library of Thumim.

This insane project is draining our resources more than any war of the past.
We have brought thousands of Scholars to Thumim to make such copies.

People are writing day and night to get these copies done by the dead-line, and without errors.

Due to his majesty being a flat out lunatic, many have begun questioning his authority.

Disgruntled Annonoans have started a separatist movement, causing a resurgence in Annonoan culture, manifesting their identity as different from ours.

In Hinnunaki, the local nobility has retracted their pledge of Allegiance and no longer recognize the authority of the local Enalus and Enalugals implemented by the Empire.

Meanwhile in Persia, Cyrus has already become King and made it clear, that he lays claim to the throne of Media.

The Enki has nearly sunken us into bankruptcy with this insane project, but at the end of the day, we did manage to complete it successfully.
This is indeed our greatest achievement as a People.

Sadly though, our days as an independent People are numbered.

Cyrus has usurped the Median throne, and shortly thereafter declared war upon us.
Our armies while technologically superior, were not the least bit prepared for the Persians.
The worst part is, they're employing tactics and strategies completely alien to us, which makes it impossible to counter them.

The Enki in his lunacy insists on fighting them to the very end, destabilizing the Empire even further and running our Economy completely into the ground.

His sons have already fled the country, except for the Eldest.

Now though, even he has to leave into Exile like his brothers.

>Will the Prince flee to Hinnunaki?

>Will the Prince flee to Annunoa?

>>163854
The Prince flees to Hinnunaki. His father built that part of our empire, and he was driven clearly mad by the want to give them the knowledge of Thumim. Anyway, we may just be killed by the Annunoans, as good as their proximity to the Homelands may be. Perhaps we may build our empire anew, beyond the Hindu Kush, and then return, through the Khyber pass, to retake what has been stolen.

>>163854
>Will the Prince flee to Hinnunaki?

This is why i had us prepare a second great library, for the inevitable destruction of the first.

>>163913
This.

>>163854
Wherever the prince fled, it doesn't quite matter. We need to organize a seperatist movement. Our people aren't about to sit around as Persians trample our rights. All this in due time, however. Let's settle in to Persian society, learn the kinks, and work out a plan for the future of our empire.

>>163854
>the Prince will flee to Hinnunaki

>>163997
this

The Prince flees to Hinnunaki, where the nobles welcome him with somewhat open arms.

They're kind of suspicious of the royal family right now, due to the excesses of the previous Enki, but they reckon that the Princes are all sane.

With the help of the nobles , the Eldest Prince manages to set up Tuskar as the Capital city of Hinnunaki - his Kingdom to rule in Exile, for he is now the new Enki.

The Enki, who witnessed the strategies and tactics employed by the Persians, manages to partially reconstruct them and prepare his troops for future encounters.

The Enki introduces a draft to the Kingdom, to have more soldiers available at war times.
Furthermore he reforms the military by completely removing the failed Heavy Cavalry, as Heavy troops are simple not capable of riding a Horse.

Additionally he adopts the local system of governing, as he sadly did not know how the Empire was run prior to it's fall.
Thus a loyalty based system of hereditary rule is setup, in which lower nobles swear allegiance to higher ones, pay them taxes and supply them with Levies, in exchange for protection and land, and the introduction of an Elite class of Warrior-nobility, that is preparing for war, every minute of their waking lives.

With these warrior nobles, titled Enalus - like the previous City vice-kings - the Enki hopes to prevent further loss of territory to barbarian invaders, in the future.

The Enki, who is a diligent man, has to rebuild an Empire nearly from scratch, with the treasury empty, the economy dysfunctional and all of Civilization about to collapse, he spends every waking minute in the Great Library of Tuskar, to learn about economics, though the task at hands seems just too big to be able to be handled by mere book wisdom.

What will the Enki do to fix our economy?

(well lads that's it for tonight, I'll be back tomorrow to check your decision)

>>164736
God dammit, there goes our great system of governance. We'll need to get that back quickly but as to the more pressing matter I suggest we expand the, once colonies, Indian holdings under the direct control of the royal family. None of it may fall to nobility, if that makes sense, so that they can be removed more easily later.

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>>164736
Offer trade to the Persians, I'm sure they'd like some fine Indian goods. Once the economy is stabilized, begin sending agents on the trade ships to build a spy network in the Persian Empire. Use that spy network to maximize our profits and minimize theirs, disrupt their administration, sow corruption, and organize rebellion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q56zEVVHVis
We /espionage/ now

>>164736
Did our settlers bring any hippos to the colonies during the height of the empire? Or are we stuck trying to domesticate the local elephants?

>>164816
>>165352
i back these

>>165352
Good call.
>>166361
Yeah, one city in Gujarat is called "Hippo City" in the local parlance.

>>165352
>spies
Assassins! Kill their tax collectors and the Persian Empire will collapse for lack of funds.

Privateers on land! Offer safe havens for state-sponsored bandits to rob Persian merchants.

Of course, only after our economy stabilized a bit.

>>164816
>great system of governance
hereditary rule is pretty stable - and we need more military might, so warrior-nobility is a big plus compared to the burocrats we had before...

>>166747
problem with hereditary nobles is however, that they are more prone to intrigue and hinder socio-economic development of the lower classes.

I'm saying that, because what our latest King introduced here, is the Feudal System.

>>166754
>intrigue
So, we need political minders for our nobles? Royal Political Commissionars will keep them in line.

>hinder [...] development
Nobles who don't give results, are traitors to the Empire and will be removed. Only the king is allowed to build stone castles and walls (just in case we have to smash them).

I'd like you guys to reach consensus some time soon.

So guys
-Spies into Persia
-Assasins into Persia
-Feudal System into Colony empire.
-Expand colonies Eastward

>>167010
Yes!

>>167010
This works, but I think we should definitely work away from Feudalism in the long term. Our old system was fantastic, and with some more advanced bureaucracy, it can be again.

>>167010
Nope, I agree to all of that except the "Feudal System into Colony empire." bit. I would instead like to return to our previous system of governance.

>>167179
Your damn right we should, not to mention that feudalism inspires a greater chance of revolution against us.

While our Enki was busy regaining some kind of economical stability, the Persians have conquered all of Annunakiminem , Lydia , Damascus , Edom , Egypt and some tribal Arameans and Arabs.

Annunoa has managed to capture Cyprus before the Persians and has begun affiliating itself with the Mycenaeans to mutually protect each other.

Cyrus - King of Persia and Media has now crowned himself King of Annunakiminem , King of Lydia , King of Egypt and King of Syria.
After that, he fancied himself the title "Shahanshah" - the King of Kings.

According to annunakiminite refugees, Cyrus has given the people a great deal of freedom, especially in regards of faith and protection from violence.
He has also refrained from crowning himself King of Judah and has given the Jews a semi-autonomous Kingdom within his Empire.
This has earned him the title of "Messiah" from the Jews.

In Hindustan meanwhile, several new Kingdoms have emerged.

The Satvant tribes have been unified under the Kingdom of Avanti.
To the North of us, the Kingdoms of Gandhara and Kamboja have risen.
South of the 4 Kingdoms we're trading with, the Kingdoms of Matsya, Surasena, Vatsa, Cedi, Kasi, Magadha and Anga have emerged.

The Kingdom of Videha has fallen apart into 2 smaller, but equally rich Kingdoms, called Malla and Vrji.

A messenger from a Kingdom far south, called Asmaka has reached us as well, and wants to open trade with "The legendary Kingdom of Anhuvakystan" which most likely refers to us.

The Enki decided to accept that trade.
With new funds coming into the Kingdom, the Enki has begun hiring commoners skilled in information gathering and killing in the shadows.

He sends out dozens of these spies who can double as Assassins, into Persia to gather information on the current state of their Empire, to disrupt trade, kill important figures in Persian politics and most importantly , steer up rebellions of our people.

The Enki is hellbent on destroying Persia, be it short or long term.

What will he do next?

>>167336
He should read into our peoples past but for actual actions;

1) Expand holdings in india

2) Attempt to install old governance anywhere we can also try to ,covertly, wipe out nobility to take control from.

3) Modernise the armed forces, to deal with the Persians tactics.

4) Open trade/ open diplomatic talks with the Indian kingdoms.

>>167401
He doesn't know what the former system looked like, that's why he introduced Feudalism.
And the modernization is happening on it's own, due to Warrior-nobility (aka knights)

Every system has advantages and drawbacks.

Feudalism is great for technological advancement in military, increased life expectancy due to lack of national-scale wars, and keeping a stable economy.

Sure feudalism has virtually no economic growth and is extremely neglecting the commoners, but our previous system wasn't perfect either.

Our previous system was so dependent on economic growth, that the slightest hint of War ruined the Empire as a whole, it was really unstable, not to mention that there was almost no technological advancement in terms of military, but more in architecture.
Also the Enki held a lot more responsibility in the old system, turning the smallest fuck ups from his side into massive disruptions in the system.

I said it before and I'll say it again, nothing is without consequences, there is no such thing as a "best option" everything is equally shit in it's own right.

TL;DR for Pro's and Con's

Feudalism Pros : Stable, good for War, good for Weapon development
Feudalism Cons : Low authority of King, bad for economic growth, bad for architecture

Bureaucracy Pros: Good for Trade, good for Architecture, good for economic Growth, undisputed authority of King
Bureaucracy Cons: Extremely bad for War, bad for Weapon development, Unstable

>>167336
Do these new Hindustani kingdoms have writing? And if so, is it different from our own? Assuming yes and yes, but I feel I have to ask.

>>167463
Yes, they use the Sanskrit Abugida (which is an Alphabet without vowels)

>>167463
Alright. Then in the interest of preserving, and sharing, knowledge, let us make a stone.

We should build a monument with a declaration in all known forms of writing. On it should be a declaration to the greatness of our people, a memorial to what we lost, a declaration of determination to not be forgotten and our promise to remain great.

Or just make a giant stone praising hippos, because for what I have in mind the contents isn't that important, the important part is, I want us to make a Rosetta Stone. We should have enough foreign texts in our library to do that right? I know the actual Rosetta Stone probably isn't due yet, and was made in Egypt, but I feel like it could be a cool thing to do.

>>167533
Yeah we can actually do that.
We have enough knowledge in our library to fully translate our language into Greek, Minoan, Phoenician, Vedic, ancient Sumerian (we speak a more modern dialect of Sumerian), 3 different versions of Egyptian, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Hittite.

We don't quite have a grasp on Persian yet, since the spy program is as fresh as Will Smith in the 90s.

The only real condition to make such a thing, is having a name for our King.

>>167553
So we need to name our king then. Unfortunately I have no grasp of what kind of names fit the culture. Except maybe Gilgamesh, who I seem to recall was Babylonian.

>>167585
Gilgamesh was Sumerian, so it might work.
Most of our Kings went unnamed, except the really great ones, and ours actually has the potential to go down in history as one of our greatest Kings.

Are we voting on a new system of governance at the moment or what is the vote on now?

>>167598
Well, unless anyone comes up with anything better, and I'm assuming they can, we can go with Gilgamesh.
>>167623
Not sure, but we need a name for our king.

>>167623
Current vote is on what our King specifically is going to do next on his vendetta-trip against Persia.
Votes are never limited to only 1 choice tho, not even when I give you a set number of options.
I explained the Gov systems only because some people are obsessing over our previous system.

>>167635

In that case I vote that we begin gathering as many resources and men as possible and start training up our military to take back our lands.

Also use our previous work with spies to plant dissenters in our old cities to stir up emotions for rebellion so when we do attack we will have allies on the inside.

Maybe contact some of our old allies and see if they have any resources or men to spare to the cause.

>>167661
>He sends out dozens of these spies who can double as Assassins, into Persia to steer up rebellions of our people.

>>167661
I'd say we should focus on expanding through India until the Persians are week, then we strike their rear and retake our homeland.

>>167676

I assumed that was into Persian lands (and by that I mean lands they owned before they took ours). The action I'm talking about is riling up our old populations that are now under Persian control.

If the action you highlighted does that as well then apologizes for posting it.

>>167685

We can still focus on building up our armies now. Could help in our conquest of India

>>167686
>rebellions of OUR People

Yes anon, I do mean our shit under Persian occupation.

>>167691

I admit I didn't read everything as carefully as I should have. I was attempting to get caught up on the two days I missed and vote.

Were in the era of some of the greatest philosophers and mathematicians. WHERE THEY AT

>>167712
Greece.
We did exchange some philosophical ideas with them though.
Any knowledge published past 1800 BC and prior to 560BC and , is somewhere in our library, guaranteed.

We should eventually seek allies among our Hindustani neighbours who can help us when it's time to take back our lands from the Persians.

Though it seems people are favouring looking for aid from within our former lands for now.
>>167712
If I'm not mistaken they should be in Greece, on the other side of the Persian Empire. We will need to take back our lands if we want to interact with them again.

>>167712
Well, mostly in the core-lands of our empire, which the Persians now own, or in Greece on the other side of the Persian empire.

So to put it simply there are a bunch of Persians in the way.

>>167712
Miletus, Mostly. We've missed Thales, but the rest are off in Greece and Italy. Anaximander should be about, but we're still incredibly early in Philosophy, Thales is one of the first Philosophers we know of, and he died in 546BC.

>>167688
I agree with this. We cannot retake our home without enough force to topple this so called Messiah, and we cannot gather that support in the now pacified Empire of Cyrus.

Ok so you guys want to go to war with Persia more or less immediately.
Did I get that right?

>>167941
I think we should grow our power in India first.

>>167941
I sure hope not, that sounds like a terrible idea. We prepare for war, and then look for an opening to do so.

>>168002
Well you guys sure are looking for conflict sooner than the ones earlier in the thread, who wanted to wait until Alexander before our great reconquista begins.

>>168008
Oh. Well on that kind of time-scale, yes, maybe we will be looking for it sooner. How long is it until Alexander?

>>168008
We do it after alexander then.
I like >>167999

>>167941
Hell no. We do need to prepare though.

There is a reason Greco-Bactria was known as the land of a thousand cities. There's money to be made in India.

>>167999
this

We should develop infrastructure in India so that our goods can move more quickly and we can move troops more effectively.

>>168045

another 200 years, until Philip and Alexander.
The Greco-Persian wars however are about to kick off in roughly 50 years.
And there will be another opportunity to fight the Persians in 150 years, when Darius II deals with the Median Rebellion.

I personally though, would love to see the invasion of Persia during Alexander, because funky things happen during that time.

As I understand it now, you guys want to expand deeper into India, correct?

If yes, I need a general direction.

>>168115
So we have opening in 50, 150 and 200 years. Good to know.
>>168121
Yes, preferably without making too many new enemies. Let us focus on settling and integrating independent lands rather than face off against the larger kingdoms.

>>168121
South

>>168121
Also, do we need a consensus on this >>167533 or is that something we can do regardless?

>>168145
well if I went by the rules I set up in the first thread, we would have to roll first to make it available to be voteable first, and then we'd need consensus.

But honestly, I like the idea so I'll just do it regardless.

>>168159
Alright, fair enough. Btw, on the topic of preserving history, do you have screencaps of the second and third threads like the one you had of the first one?

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>>168187
yes
I'm compiling every progress made in a thread into a single condensed screencap.

>>168203
Cool. I was worrying it might all be gone when I noticed the second thread was off the board.

>>168121
Peaceful expansion. To large, established kingdoms, we'll trade and be civil. To tribes, we'll exterminate them.

>>168115
Do you have a map of the empire?

>>168253
yes, check the last map I used.
I can't post shit twice in the same thread for some retarded reason.

>>168253
This is the latest posted map of our empire before the Persians took it. >>157438

>>168283
no m8, that's not the last map I used.
This one is >>162931

>>168291
It's the last one of our original empire before we had to leave it. Assumed he meant that part since he asked about our empire, especially since he could easily search the thread for that one. However, I could very well be mistaken.

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The Enki decided to spread the influence of the Kingdom deeper into Hindustan, in an effort to be able to stand up to Persia.

This expansion trip has made us neighbors to the Kingdoms of Avanti and Matsya, as well as a minor Kingdom called Mulaka.

The Enki has granted these freshly conquered lands to competent officers in the Army, knighting them to Enalus.

The Enki then has went on to order a rather strange building project.
Due to his paranoia regarding the Persians, and his fear of them coming for him even in Exile, he demands a huge Pillar be erected, with a statue of him as a Hippo-rider on top.
The Pillar must be engraved with a message from the Enki himself, in every language known to us, for the world to behold his legacy.

With the help of Scholars, we managed to construct this monstrous Pillar within a year.

The message reads as follows:

"I am Gilgaram, King of all Civilization. Behold thee who gazes upon my Legacy, the story of our People.
Our people who has come from the Annuna and Kiminem (Tigris and Euphrates) Rivers, have survived many great Horrors. We have defeated countless Barbarians, spread Civilization to all corners of the World, and yet, the Barbarians have stood victorious.
Dozens of Generations of our Ancestors are now looking back at us from the heavens, and weep in the face of our Loss.
They who came to destroy Civilization, to rape our Women and kill our Children, to spread Barbarism across the world, are sure to come for us even in Exile.
We, who have hoped to find save haven in Hindustan, are preparing to fight our last stand.
It is uncertain when they will come, but we shall fight them to the bitter end.
Thou who gazes upon our history, spread our word to the World, for no one shalt have to suffer from the Barbarism brought on to us by the Persians."

(I bastardized Gilgamesh to get to Gilgaram, since we speak a language descent from Sumerian)

The Pillar that has this message engraved in various languages, is erected in Orias.

The Enki's mind has been put at ease for now, knowing that even if our Kingdom fades into obscurity, our legacy remains.

What will happen now?
Also what are our new cities called?

I'm off for the night again lads.
Enjoy this special-edition Post.

>>168245
Agreed, and build the stone too. In all eleven languages, why not?

We should expand to the east for now to thicken our empire and avoid provoking the Persians. Expand trade with the other Hindustani states, too.

>>168709
Name the border cities Lhosha, Gilgram, Montar, Kel-Trem and Hind-Acchilea

>>168709
Let's build a wall and make Persia party for it. Jokes aside, let's bulk and train the military, build spy networks in Persia, and seek military alliances with the Hindus. We're going to rip those damn Zoroastrian bastards a new one.

>>168709
Oh, dang. Okay.

Let's get ourselves a well-trained royal army and royal navy to supervise local Enalu militaries (internal espionage?), and build up a thriving commercial network. We should have strong and friendly ties to our immediate neighbors, but a formal military alliance with Magadha and maybe some other states too just in case things turn sour.

>>168709
It's perfect.

>>168769
Actually, scratch that. Do we have any libraries?

>>168849
Actually we have a replica of our great library in our Indian capital, thanks to me and a few other voters, but I don't know if we have any other such facilities.

>>168887
It'd be beneficial to have small private libraries around the country. They could buy manuscripts and we'd copy them.

Well that's just great, nothing to work with except 1 guy
guess I'll go with that then.

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Fearing the nobility might inhibit the military capacity of the country in the long run, the Enki introduces a new law, which forces Enalus to be under direct jurisdiction of the Enki and follow standard military law, like any armed peasant.

Although not happy with his decision, the Enalus do not question the Wisdom of the man who prevented the colonies from collapsing after the fall of the Empire.

In addition, the Enki demands all military officers, including Enalus themselves, but put under surveillance by Spies, to ease his Paranoia of there being Persia-sympathizers in his ranks.

Furthermore, he issues laws for some kind of mandatory trade with our immediate neighbors.
This law is supposed to stabilize the economy to a level where we can afford wars again.

Additionally, the Enki has begun diplomatic talks with all major Kingdoms of Hindustan.
Among them is a very promising candidate for cooperation : Magadha.
This relatively small but powerful Kingdom to the east, has a strong land-based military, which has centuries worth of combat experience and share a general Paranoia similar to our Enki, this makes them great potential allies.

Thus the Enki convinces the Magadha to sign a formal treaty of mutual defense, in the case of an outside invasion.

The Enki is somewhat sure now, that we are relatively safe.

decades pass living in relative safety.

We are now writing the year 498 BC
our aging Enki Gilgaram, has made it to the ripe old age of 76 and he doesn't look like he'll die any time soon.
The longevity of our Enki has sparked rumors in the Kingdom, of him having some kind of Divine protection.

Word has reached the Enki, of the Persians being at war with the Mycenaeans.
The Mycenaeans who have long been considered Barbarians by the Empire, are supposedly at an advantage against the Persians here, as reports would have it, they have reached a technological level comparable to the glory days of the Empire.
If these rumors hold any truth to them, this would be the perfect time to strike Persia and finally give peace to the mind of Gilgaram the Ceaseless.

What are we going to do now?

>>171333
Divine trips checked by the grace of glorious Gilgaram.

The Persians have all their attention and fighting forces way on the other side of their empire. If we can make a push through their lightly defended rear all the way to Persepolis, we just might be able to bring the whole house down. Of course, going all the way to our ancestral heartland might be overextending it. Let's try for Persia proper with resolve but caution. You never know, soldiers can be a lot meaner on their home turf.

We should also have our spy network try to foment rebellious sentiment in non-Persian parts of their empire. Egypt in particular looks promising.

>>171748
seconding this plan

>>171748
Agreed. Let us hit them where it hurts while their forces are busy elsewhere.

>>171748
Lets wait for alexander. He gonna conquer some mad shit son

>>171748
> resolve but caution
More resolve, less caution! Smash the barbarian Persians!

As a plus: Our nobles can't plot against the royal family when they're busy with a war.

Egyptian rebellion can be supported by us with advisors and money.

>>171805
Pfft, Alexander Who? As if some dirty peasants from far away lands can stand against our might! We don't fear anything!

>>171748
Sounds like a plan.

The old man Gilgaram pulled the lever and put all gears in motion in the Kingdom to go to war.

He made use of his spy network in Persia to figure out where to strike and also incite rebellions in Annunakiminem against the Persians.

It turns out the Persian Empire has 5 De-facto Capitals.

Persepolis, Pasargadae, Babylon, Ecbatana and Susa.

Persepolis is the Ceremonial capital of the Empire and holds more religious value than anything.
Same thing applies to Pasargadae, which is a huge cultural center of Persia.

The real Capitals however are Babylon, Susa and Ecbatana.
All of which are huge and fortified cities.
Babylon is the Primary residence of the Shahansha.
Susa is a huge center of Command for the Persian armies, and doubles as a substitute capital..
Last but not least is Ecbatana, the former capital of the Medians. It holds the Summer Residence of the Shahanshah and is a huge economical center of the Persian Empire.

All 5 Capitals must fall under our control, if we ever want to defeat Persia.

Our people most definitely will support us, and there is a Chance we can get a Median rebellion rolling if we play our cards right.

We assemble our Army near Melakam and the Navy at Zark.
Through the Enki's reforms, our military might today, exceeds even that of our Ancestors.
His rigorous effort has put us where we are today.

This morning, the Enki has issued a declaration of war against Persia and our troops have taken the first step into Persian territory.

The time has come:
For the People
For the Empire
For the Enki - King of Civilization.
He will make the Empire great again.

How will our god-like King proceed?

>>172214
Send agents to prepare the Medians immediately. Then, take each capital city from east to west and burn them, paying special attention to the cultural abd religious centers.

>>172234
Actually, just burn the Shahansa's residencies in Babylon and Ecbatana. Completely destroy the other three.

>>172234
I suggest we go for Susa first, destroy the military command center, and then Babylon, and then the rest, leaving Ecbatana for last.

to give you guys some perspective.

Persepolis and Pasargadae are right next to each other, in the Fars province of todays Iran.
Susa is in Mesopotamia - just outside the borders of our old Empire.
Ecbatana is in the mountains of Iran, where today's Hamadan is.
Babylon has only 1 city-gate, which can only be accessed from the Euphrates main-stream.

Babylon and Susa can be quickly reached with our Navy.
Pasargadae and Persepolis are the closest to us on the land-route.
Ecbatana is hard to get to, but it's not particularly strongly fortified.

>>172272
Their army is busy so we reach for the cities closest to us for attacks. And we don't have to only attack one after the other, right?

>Babylon has only 1 city-gate
And we have siege equipment like ladders or siege towers?

We stop supplies coming from the cities, we essentially starve their armies as well.

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>>172214
Blockade Babylon to strain their supplies until our main army can arrive to cut them off. In the mean time if we're going to conquer Persia we should not act maliciously and instead act with benevolence, if we are not to to conquer Persia and just liberate our homelands, then burn Persia to the ground.
>"Butterfly, what is your wisdom?"
>And I looked down at it's majestic form, flexing it's wings as if to show me it's strength.
>"Fuck Persia." It whispered to me before it fluttered away.
>And so we went to war.
-Gilgaram 496 BC

>>172623

I agree with this

Although I think we should loot the cities of all valuables before we burn them.

So lads, what is it?

>>172623
>>172353
>>172234

This

>>172776
Seconded

>>172762
Acquire divine mandate and burn Persia to the ground.
>>172776
This basically desu

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We /fulledge/ now

Actually guys I'm asking you whether to go easy on the Persians or full Mongol, since the decision is unanimous already.

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>>172835
Take southern Persia and our homelands, burn the rest of Persia to turn the Persians in to whimpering dogs and prevent them from rising again.
If that's what you're asking.
If you're asking whether or not we burn Persia, then by all means yes. Burn the fuckers.

ok lemme rephrase that.

dominate Persia or remove Immortal?

>>172865
ok that's 2 votes for remove Immortal, you and the first guy to say burn down every city.

so if this get a 3rd vote then our friend Darius "The Great" can say hello to Auschwitz.

>>172875
REMOVE IMMORTAL

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well that settles it.

The world's first ever Zorocaust

>>172868
REMOVE IMMORTAL

>>172868
REMOVE THEM! KILL THEM ALL! THEY WILL PAY FOR THEIR SINS!

By order of the Enki, our Armies march west-ward, along the coast between Annunakiminem and Hinnunaki, to support our Navy, which has also set sail west, with the Goal to blockade the Persian supply lines at the Sumerian Gulf and Red Sea.

Our troops are heading for Pasargadae and Persepolis.
On their way, they commit terrible atrocities against the local populace, under direct order by Enki Gilgarem himself, for he did not forget what they did to his people and he would pay them back a thousand fold.
Rape, beheading, torture, stoning, and other grotesque methods of murder were committed against any and all Persians our soldiers could find.
Word our of Atrocities spread throughout the Empire like a wildfire and people ran away in fear at the mere sight of our Armies.
Some cities surrendered immediately, others didn't, but regardless of what they did, each and every city we could find was burned to the ground, it's population cleansed.

The Persians could not do a single thing against us, as their troops were bound in Lydia and Mycene, fighting off the Ionian rebellion and Mycenaean League, lead by Athens.

Annunoa, originally determined to stay neutral in this conflict, changed it's mind when they heard of our Invasion.
The Kingdom of Annunoa - led by aging Nephew of Gilgaram, declared war on Persia and engaged their mighty Aegean Navy, to weaken them in the Mycenaean front, to later push toward Egypt.

After months of relentless conquest, we have finally reached Pasargadae and charged into it.
Never did the Persian garrison expect us to come this far this fast, so the City has not yet been evacuated.
We capture the city and commit the same atrocities here, but before we burn it down, the Enki personally removed the corpse of Cyrus from his Mausoleum and puts the thing on an arms-wagon, for our Army to carry it with us.

With our swift success in Pasargadae we move on to Persepolis, where we continue our streak of violent murder and burn down the city.

Shortly thereafter we make our way for Ecbatana, and peacefully liberate all Median cities, causing the insurgents we have created over the years with our propaganda, to rise up in Rebellion against Persia.

The Rebels show us the fastest route to Ecbatana, which is only a few weeks travel away.

Meanwhile in Mycene, the Persians have suffered heavy defeats. With the loss of their entire Aegean fleet and the Ionians and Mycenaeans gaining the upper-hand, they decided to shift their Focus onto us, with fatal consequences.

The Annunoans use this opportunity to strike at Egypt and rip the fertile Nile out of their hands, cutting their food supply short.

The Annunoan army meets our Marines near Memphis and decide to send word back to us, while also joining up with our forces, to move into the Levant.

The first Year of the War has passed, and Persia is suffering extreme losses on all fronts, but they have not been brought to their Knees yet.

>>173062
BURN THEM ALL

>>173062
>extreme losses on all fronts
What do they still have left though? Bottom of the barrel: city guards, barely armed militias, brigands?

>>173075
Yes, cleanse them.
Noone will remember our time of defeat.
The memory of it will be removed from history - by killing the witnesses.

>>173112
Actually, they still have the Bulk of their Army left, since they're desperately trying to defend our home land from us, for obvious reasons.
We make up the majority of their population and economic output.
So, taking back our home will be the greatest challenge of them all.

>>173122
Send Envoys inviting the Myceneans to attack the Persians while theya re weak, to call the Medians to revolt, and finally to incite rebellion by our brethren. Then, when the Persians are beset by our people, we engage them in the field, and once we succeed, rush for Susa.

Punished Gilgaram desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrkzIN2eP0U

>>173122
>desperately
Smash them all! Instill pure fear into them. Their End Times are here.

But try not to burn down our cities.
Can our brethren and spies open the gates for our armies? They probably have to suppress rebellions left and right too.

>>173153
>>173158
Lads please, that was just the first part, there's no input here yet, I'm currently writing the second one.
Just let yourself be surprised.

We reach Ecbatana on the first day of the New Year.
Rebels in the city overwhelm the guards and Open the city-gates for us.
Again we present ourselves as liberators rather than conquerors, there are however a sizable number of Persians living in this City.
We demand the Rebels hand them out to us, and while most do so gladly, others have sympathies for the persecuted Persians.
Not willing to risk our image with the Medians, we promised not to harm any of them, and instead just bring them back to Persia.
They were skeptical of our promise, but they were willing to believe it.
And we do actually keep our promise.
We sent the Median-Persians back to Persia, into abandoned and ruined Prisons, where we let them starve to death under torture.
After that, we burn down the Summer residence of the Shahanshah and move on to the next cities.

Meanwhile, the Annunoan forces together with our Elite Marines that were blockading Egypt, have arrived in the Levant and have begun their reconquest of the Autonomous Kingdom of Judah, which is part of the Persian Empire.
The Jews resent us and want nothing to do with our rule, so they put up heavy resistance, accompanied by guerilla warfare in every city they Capture.
Every battle is a blood bath on both sides, and they're taking a heavy toll on our joint Forces.

The Elite marines eventually retreat back to the Red-Sea to sail back home, they could no longer sustain themselves.

With the amazing success of the Mycenaeans and Ionians, they have begun counter-invading Persia and are pushing into Lydia toward Hatti.

Our main forces have reached Susa, while our Marines stationed in the Sumerian Gulf, have disembarked their ships and push for Ur.

Under heavy losses they managed to free the city and set up base for reinforcements and supplies from Hinnunaki to be sent here, to make our eventual push for Babylon easier.

Susa was a tough nut to crack, in light of the Persians deporting all Medians from the city, to prevent insurgents from helping us.

We had to siege the City for an entire year, due to it's heavy defenses and massive troop contingents.

However, the Enki did something interesting after taking the city, he ordered all devout Zoroastrians to be kept alive and dragged along with us.

Thus marks the end of the 2nd and 3rd years of the War.

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>>173195
Persia right now

>>173195
Nice. We will have our Pure Empire again.
>heavy losses
Well, we will have to encourage all women to have more children...

The Annunoans reorganize themselves and strike into Byblos, capturing the city and setting up camp in Phoenicia to gather more troops from Crete.
They are accompanied by some Mycenaeans from Sparta - who have lost their prominence in the Mycenaean League, after the overwhelming victory of Athens against the Persians, in the battle of Corinth , and have thus decided to leave the League altogether, aligning themselves with Annunoa instead.

With a joint Annunoan-Spartan army gathering at Byblos and another, heavily demoralized one sitting near Jerusalem, the Annunoans decide to make a push for it from 2 fronts.

The Jews despite their tenacity, are unable to hold 2 fronts, especially not against the Spartan contingent, an enemy whom they never faced before.

After this victory, the Annunoan-Spartan Army makes it's way for Babylon - the Primary capital of the Persian Empire.

Meanwhile the Mycenaean League, has added the Ionians into their ranks, and captured all of Lydia, setting foot into Hatti.

We resupply ourselves at Ur and wait for our reinforcements to arrive.
We have also sent a small contingent of our Army into the steppes of Persia, to sweep up behind our trail of destruction, and cause even more destruction while they're at it.

With that the 4th year comes to an end.

After our reinforcements arrive, we make way for Babylon, with over 10 thousand men at our disposal, and another 8 thousand from the Annunoan-Spartan army, we lay siege to Babylon.

This city as well, had all of our people deported from it to prevent insurgencies, and the Main force of the Persians , 60 thousand troops, are heading our way, in a last effort to defeat us. They consist almost entirely of their fabled "Immortals" and Horse riders, accompanied by roughly 3 thousand desperate Guardsmen.

Things aren't looking good, but the Enki is determined to defeat the Persians once and for all.

he picks out only the bravest of his warriors, who are willing to go on a suicide mission with him.
Despite their respect for him, most of his troops are convinced that he has gone completely insane right now.

The Spartans however, are willing to follow him, despite just having met him for the first time.
Together with the Spartans, about 2 thousand of his Urbat, and 500 Annunoan Etutu are banding together to form a miniscule Army of just 3200 people.

The Enki then orders all remaining troops, to capture Babylon no matter the cost.

The Old man and his most loyal soldiers, accompanied by the Spartans, head out to the green plains of Annunakiminem, between Thumim and Sippar.

Their forces clash at Assur.

Tens of thousands fall in this battle.
We don't know how many Persians died that day, but we do know that they fled mid-battle.
More than half of our troops are dead.
The survivors of the Spartans praise the Old man to the high heavens, for his almost maniacal blood lust and sheer unnatural physical prowess, especially considering his age.

We made wanted to give chase to them, but the fleeing Persians ran into a joint Rebel army of 100 thousand Annunakiminites and 12 thousand Medians.
The cowards were slaughtered.

We accompanied these rebel armies on their way to Babylon.
When we made it there, the Siege has turned into a disaster, our forces were crumbling without the guidance of the Enki.

Having no other choice, he convinced the rebels to charge the city under his command.
We captured Babylon in a matter of hours and accidentally burned it to the ground.

Little remained of the City, but it's walls and the now barren Hanging gardens.

The Enki, the Rebels, the Annunoan-Spartan Army and our own forces now march onto Thumim.

The Persian Empire has been completely and utterly destroyed, and not a single Persian is left to tell the tale.

All that is left now is for the Enki to reclaim his rightful throne in the Imperial Palace.

After 5 years, the conquest of Persia has come to an end.

(almost over lads, 1 last update)

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>>173319
GOD-EMPEROR GILGARAM
Pic related portrait of Gilgaram

>>173333
Gilgaram deserves to be interred in the ancient tomb of Achilles, and the old tomb must be made yet more grand.

The Enki has reformed the System once more, partially restoring the old bureaucratic system, while maintaining some lower nobility, vice-roys and especially the Enalus.

The Medians despite their newly gained freedom, had no King to rule them, so they decided to join the Empire.

Persia has been completely resettled by our people from Hinnunaki.

Annunoa has rejoined our Empire and Sparta has become an important ally for us in Mycene.

We did stir up a lot of trouble when we invaded the Mycenaean League, to regain possession of Hatti.

After all this, Gilgaram "The Ceaseless" has been crowned Enki of Persia, Enki of Media, Enki of Hatti, Pharaoh of Egypt, Enki of Syria, Enki of Annunakiminem, Enki of Annunoa, Enki of Judah, Enki of Arabia and Enki of Phoenicia.

Later he granted all of these titles to low-ranked vice-roys and adopted the title Sarsarrum of Kianur (literally Celestial Horizon of Earth, but in this context rather Holy Empire of Man(Man here implying Civilized people, aka ourselves)) - the new name of the Empire.

A statue of his Image has been Erected in Babylon, to commemorate his sacrifice for the good of the Empire and all (Civilized) Mankind.

Gilgaram the Ceaseless, died at the near unfathomable age of 93.

btw the Bracket only refers to Kianur

Sarsarrum literally translates to King of Kings - in this context rather Emperor.

And now we have to watch it laid low by Alexander. At least the sons of Gilgaram will face a battle worthy of him.

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>>173348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzPuK1vib_c

>>173333
The hilarious part about this post is, I saw it just as I was typing out the "Holy Empire of Man" part.
Only then did I realize what the fuck I was writing and genuinely laughed so hard I got heartburn from it.

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>>173348
Pottery

>>173415
Kek

>>173348
We have removed immortal successfully

>>173415
meme magic is real

>>173446
definitely.

I'll take a short break, before I post the last update for today.

Oh and fun stuff, since the war with Persia is over, we can now mess with the Greeks, as long as we're not directly messing with the Greek League or Macedonia.
influencing them indirectly or messing with their neighbors is now completely fair game, due to us retaking Hatti and getting Sparta on our side, we are now their enemy #1.
We have effectively replaced Persia.

http://www.familyecho.com/#view:XN1PJ

An attempted kings list, from Tutankai through Sculptouran to the Mad King to Gilgaram

>>173473
link shows a empty sheet

>>173482
Try this one. It's really not that exciting, it's just an attempt to go through all of the kings we have named, with a few made up for when it was just ''The Enki''
http://www.familyecho.com/?p=START&c=48ejolscgp&f=889244334405877578

Sup guys- what did I miss?

Last time I checked, a library was breaking our empire. Did it actually fracture?

>>173482
That
also, I can give you a rough list of Kings.

Starting off with Tutankai the Glorious.
8 kings later, we are at Tutankai IV - last member of the Tutan Dynasty.

The comes Achilles the Great - founder of the Achillid Dynasty.
which ends with Sculptouron the Kind.

Then an Unknown Dynasty ruled the Empire until the Sea Peoples came.

After that a new uknown Dynasty took it's place, which is also the Dynasty of Gilgaram the Ceaseless.

>>173504
quite a long list nevertheless
>>173534
Interesting, can we name the current Dynasty to Gilgamerian?

>>173550
Sure thing, it's not an uncommon for Kings to rename their dynasties.

>>173511

?

>>173574
>We got conquered by Persia
>Son of the guy who built the 2nd library became paranoid as shit.
>PERSIANSAREMYTRIGGER.png
>waited 50 years for the right moment to attack Persia
>yolocaust.jpg
>reconquered the entire Empire + Persia and Egypt
>godemperorofmankind.png

Thus is the story of Gilgaram the Ceaseless

>>173604

What the shit.

That sounds like gg to me.

Like, starting at 10,000 BC in a different part of the globe again.

>>173662
Well honestly, I never intended it to go that way, I wanted a really old king at least once, ya know, to give him at least some kind of purpose in his shitty situation.
And then the Greco-Persian wars came and everyone wanted to holocaust Persia, so we holocausted Persia.
And since everyone was so into it, I decided to go for a more maniacal approach to a war we would win anyway, and made Gilgaram just go full retard at the end, proclaiming himself Emperor of all Mankind.

So there is that, but he's dead now, so the story progresses somewhat realistically from here again.

>>173662
Nope, now we wait for the Mongolian armies to show up and then we pull a trump on them or something.

>>173690
Our economy must be really bad right now then.
Most likely aggressive tribes see this as a opportunity to harass our borders, so we will have to deal with that and try to appease the people with restoring the lands yet again.

>>173695
Dig a trench to keep the mongols out.

>>173695
>In that case guys
>here are a few things we MUST let happen.

>We must be conquered by Achaemenid Persia.
>We must become a Hellenistic Kingdom
>We cannot interfere with Greece until Rome conquers it.
>We cannot interfere with Italy until the Great migration (aka fall of West-Rome)
>We cannot stop the initial Islamic conquest.
>We cannot wipe-out Islam before the 15th century.
>We cannot stop the Mongol invasion.
>We cannot conquer Spain until the 18th century.
>We cannot conquer France until the 19th century.
>We cannot conquer Russia until the 19th century.
>We cannot colonize North-America.

>These are the bare minimum requirements for the Western World to exist in any way shape or form.

>>173738
Doesn't mean we can't make some memes, we can't stop the Mongols but the Great Wall didn't stop them either. So what's the harm?

>>173738
We won't stop the Mongol invasion, merely redirect it around our lands by digging a series of really, really big ditches.

The Sons of Gilgaram have now taken the throne after his death and renamed their Dynasty in his honor.
Thus the Gilgaramenites are born.

The Empire of Kianur is slowly re-stabilizing after the devastating Persian War, which has left our treasury empty yet again.

Not wanting to rely on foreign trade anymore however, the Sarsarrum puts a new focus on domestic trade.
He introduces banking into the Empire, a concept which he got from the despised Persians.
A Bank keeps your money safe, in exchange they take some money from you.
You can also loan money from the Bank that you don't have but need, and have to pay back the Bank a slowly, but ever increasing amount back at one point.
The money loaned can neither exceed the amount of own money the Bank has, nor what the debtor is able to repay over 2 years.

This System is supposed to discourage foreign trade in a way that prevents trade-partners from extracting value from our already devastated economy.

On the plus side however, thanks to us now controlling Egypt, we have near limitless supply of food for our people, completely preventing starvation.

However, the massive unemployment rate going on in the Empire, is massively inhibiting it's ability to recover.

In other news, Gilgaram the Ceaseless, has become an object of Worship for many of our people.
Widely accepted among many of his worshipers, as the only God relevant to us, they refer to him as "Sarilu" (King of Gods) or "Gilgabarum" (Great Emperor(using his own name as substitute for Emperor))

What will the Sarsarrum do to stimulate the economy?

What are we going to do about this new Faith?

(Enjoy debating these answers folks, I'm off to sleep, I've got a week full of Exams)

>>173773
mongol highway with horse feeding stations every 100km,
leading conveniently to other kingdoms

>>173781
Allow this new faith to flourish, it will bring legitimacy to us, and begin trade with the Greeks and Indians. Surely the Greeks need things from India, and the Indians need things from Greece. We are the only nation between the two places, and as such can facilitate trade as much as we like.

>>173781
Adopt the new Religion, and begin public works projects to create jobs.

>>173781
Invest in making a worker program for unemployed citizens:
citizens get assigned to public work projects in exchange of getting fed and receiving a small fund for household costs.

Projects include building roads, housing, farm work, cleaning public areas, gardening, helping fletchling industries with initial work until they can afford to hire people and thus pay money to the empires coffers.

Religion i dunno, anyone got a good idea?

>>173781
>What are we going to do about this new Faith?

absolutely nothing

>>173826
what we have always done nothing

>>173826
>Religion i dunno, anyone got a good idea?
what we have always done nothing

>>173781
Add Gilgaram to our pantheon

>>173844
changed to this>>173954

>>173781
Basicallly this >>173954

We should have the priests proclaim for all to hear that our
Gilgaram has been accepted as an equal among the gods. And that he in turn have named them his equal.

Then put it on a rock or something so people remember it. I know we already made our Rossetta Stone, and it was awesome, but this is the kind of proclamation we want everyone in our empire to be able to understand so it would make sense to make another one.

>>175087
I think it fits for him to be king of the gods.

>>175248
Perhaps, but we should make sure people don't forget about the other gods just because our king is so great.

>>175298
Did the Hellenists forget about the other gods because Zeus was King? I don't see any danger.

The Sarsarrum, in an attempt to stimulate the economy, creates a worker program, in which all unemployed men will become servants of the Empire, in exchange for food, housing and some very minor amounts of money, until they have found new jobs.

The Sarsarrum uses these workers to create national-scale building project, in order to get more trade going.

We expand the road-network to include the new territories.
All roads are adjusted to a standardized width of 20ft, to accommodate for our Armies and trade caravans.
We also begin trading goods from Hindustan with the Mycenaeans, who have never seen luxuries such as Pepper before, for which they pay high prices, as we are the only exporters of such goods.

Meanwhile a council of priests has come together in Aleppo for all 3 major faiths in the Empire to find a compromise.

Atenists have gained strongly in number during Persian occupation, who still insist that Aton - the Sun - is the only God.

Then we have the most recent group, Gilgamists, who are convinced that Gilgaram the Ceaseless, was in fact a God in human shape, to guide us. They too insist that he is the only viable God.

both Gilgamists and Atenists, seem to agree that their "one true God" are the same deity.

Then we have our own Faith.
It has guided us for Millennia, but the priests feel as though it is slowly becoming obsolete.

We worship a small pantheon of Gods, one of which includes the Sun-God Aton, however not as a deity of the Sun but rather Iron.

We Worship
Aton - God of Iron and Steel
Mesthur - Goddess of Fertility and Agriculture
Nelpara - Goddess of Birds, the Moon and Wind
Sustesh - God of Fire, the Sun and Lightning
Vahstara - Goddess of Love and Life
Buddha (a god we adopted from the Hindustani people) - God of Wisdom and Peace
and Serrulil - God of Storms and Death

The priests are considering to add Gilgaram as an additional deity to our Pantheon, but the others flat out refuse this idea.

After weeks of hot debate, they came to a theological resolution to all of our problems.

Sarilu and Aton become the same God
The King of Gods - The God of War and God of Luck
Gilgabarum becomes an aspect of this God, namely a War-like Spirit that takes possession of Great warriors, and grants them unfathomable Luck in battle.

Additionally, the god Sustesh has been declared non-existent and his domain is instead attributed to Serrulil.
Serrulils previous domain of "death" is Attributed to Vahstara instead, which creates a new duality in her character.

With this council over, our new Pantheon consist of

Mesthur
Nelpara
Serrulil
Vahstara
Buddah
and Sarilu at the top of them all.

Thus a somewhat new faith is born and with it a newly organized priesthood that we previously did not have, to keep our new religious Canon consistent across all parts of the Empire and no longer allow for deviation from region to region.
This new Priesthood is supposed to give our people unity, even in dire times like these.

What will we do next?

aside from Aton and Buddah, these are obviously all made up, I tried to make them sound either Sumerian or Indian for maximum immersion and shit.

Enjoy this new religion post while I'm off to college.

This is glorious

>>176512
How does our map look like now?

>>176920
I would also like to know this

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>>176920
>>177473
But it probably looks something like this

>>177484
Yeah pretty close.
We got more land in India than that, but less in anatolia and none in greece

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Blank map of the ME in case you need it, OP

>>177516
Paint bucket doesn't work on it in paint but GIMP should do just fine

>>176512
We should get a sense of how things are in the west right now. Is Cartago still around? How are those guys in Italy?

Also, what's the state of Cyprus and Crete, do we hold their lands? And were they hit hard by the war?

I need you guys to reach some kind of conclusion by tomorrow, because if you don't I'll just bullshit up something so I can start the new thread.

>>177889
Continuing to take over India can't backfire, right?

>>177889
lets colonize gaul

>>177946
We can't interfere with Europe, I know annoying but we made a decision and can't change it.

>>177889
lets spread our new religion

>>177994
this

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Also I made a map of what I think the Empire looks like so far.
I-Is it good, OP-senpai?

>>177977
When it came up last thread didn't everyone think we should change that? I didn't follow the entire conversation on the topic, all I remember is that it somehow led to us focusing on India.

>>177946
Let's not colonize Gaul though, there is no point in it for us.

>>178099
The decision remained unaltered, we can't interfere heavily with Europe. Thus we decided to expand our Indian presence, in preparation for the upcoming war with Persia.

Maybe expand into Africa along the coast? Or found more colonies in the China/Indonesia Area. Lets get some exploration going

>>178346
That sucks. Oh well, not much I would want us to do with west yet. Would have been cool to prevent the fall of Rome though, that's my real pet peeve about the Rise of the West thing.

How far is our navy? maybe discover Australia. Could we make a pact with the Greeks to try to prevent Alexander's conquest?

>>177889 We could expand into Arabia along with suggestions above

>>178374
Seconded. If we can't go west, let's go east and south. Let us explore the coasts!

>>178394
Again, we can't interfere in Europe and I would argue the rise of Alexander is a rather important event.

However we can do anything we want with the entire world, except north america, so really I feel we should push along what will one day be the silk road. Mostly cause I want to get gunpowder early and work on being better in every other way,

>>178412
>>178408
Yes I was hopping to come in contact with whatever Chinese Dynasty was present for trade, Have we come to the time of the invention of gunpowder?

>>178412
Could you please quit repeating that line. I don't care if it's the rule, it still pisses me off hearing it again, and again and again AND AGAIN!

That was the advantage about the colony part of this story, we didn't have to care about the stupid restriction because we couldn't influence Europe if we wanted to.

>>178466
Korean gained access to gunpowder weapons in the 1300s AD from China, so no but by the time we get through India and Polynesia to encounter china they will certainly have developed the material. Considering the fact China tried to keep gunpowder to themselves, they had it for quite some time before then.

>>178527
Then I vote to either try to establish a diplomatic trade route to China or conquer our way there. We should establish new colonies in the East. If we go the diplomatic route we could assimiliate smaller kingdoms into us.

problem with China is, we have their exact attitude.

Everything that isn't us is Barbarians.

The only Civilization we know of historically, that China respected like themselves, was Rome, so if we want any trade with China, we have to become civilized like them, which from a western perspective, is not the case, we are simply the most advanced and have fairly progressive views on male/female equality, with the whole women can get 3 whole years of education in their lives.

>>178047
Also, yes you did very gud boi.
if the map , just 2 small things.

the Island between Crete and Rhodes , and Rhodes are part of the Empire.
Perhaps you recall a minor event known as Rhodesian genocide, where the Annunoans holocausted the locals?

Other thing is, I wish the map was SLIGHTLY bigger, to reach a bit further into india to show our part

other than that, it's perfect
9.8/10

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>>180475

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>>180475
Fixed the island bit. Reason I left it out was because I wasn't sure if we had lost them when the Empire collapsed

>>180650
Also I'll look for a bigger map tomorrow. It's late here and I don't have the energy to search through google images for a slightly bigger map

Is OP kill or just busy?

>>181783
most likely busy, propably shows up in a few hours

come on guys this thread is almost dead, I need something to start the new thread with

also sorry bout yesterday, I had exams to write and was kinda kill for the rest of the day afterward.
I just woke up

>>176512
Attempt to find Carthage again and trade with them.
>>184428
I got you senpai

>>184662
>>184436
I would also like to search for Carthage.

>>184662
I got some great news senpai, apparently I can paintbucket the map you use, though only in the parts you painted in.

So if you could paint in the whole map in white, and send it to me, that would be great for me.

also new thread here
>>185244