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A Song of Ice and Fire: House Creation

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Evening everyone. If anyone is interested or up for it, in this thread we will be rolling up a history and stats for a House of Westeros using the A Song of Ice and Fire Roleplaying (SIFRP) system and hopefully, if the interest is great enough, to use in a new Game of Thrones related quest.

We'll be using the resources in the files here:

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6sar1o14399xv/SIFRP

Specifically we'll be using the A Song of Ice and Fire (Game of Thrones Edition) and Out of Strife, Prosperity. House Creation starts on page 96 of the former. Also, we'll be using the document The Father put together with all of the homebrew options collected of the various quests previously held on /tg/ and /qst/, found here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qm-psOSbKz_FbT9XpMXcNfwuOLmSRokmevgt9jkMVzo/edit?usp=sharing

So we have two ways to start, either we can roll for our starting realm, or we can just pick one. Stormlands, North and Dorne haven't gotten much love in these threads before.
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If we just want to roll for it, here is the related chart and we'll need a 3d6 for it.
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Rolled 3, 5, 4 = 12 (3d6)

>>1425041
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Rolled 3, 5, 5 = 13 (3d6)

>>1425041
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>>1425110
Fuck yeah, Lannister bannermen!
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And then OP died.
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>>1425154

To be fair it took a while for us to get around to responding
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>>1425159
Indeed. /qst/ is very slow and its not like people are looking through catalog to find quests they want to play. They often got their own regular quest and only visit when they run
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>>1425110
>>1425112

Very solidly Lannister men it looks like. And so the dice have spoken.

Apologies I had to run a quick errand.

So, we will be now rolling for starting resources. The attached chart is our bonuses to those rolls. I will need 7 rolls of 7d6 next lads.
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Rolled 5, 2, 1, 4, 2, 4, 2 = 20 (7d6)

>>1425171

Whew lad, 7 rolls
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Rolled 6, 2, 6, 2, 3, 6, 5 = 30 (7d6)

>>1425171
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Rolled 5, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 3 = 15 (7d6)

>>1425171
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>>1425171

Do you mind if we multi-roll to get all these out here?
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>>1425218
Not at all. Figured it would end up happening.
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Rolled 3, 3, 4, 2, 4, 1, 1 = 18 (7d6)

>>1425171
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Rolled 2, 3, 3, 5, 1, 3, 2 = 19 (7d6)

>>1425171
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Rolled 6, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1 = 16 (7d6)

>>1425171
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Rolled 1, 5, 6, 2, 5, 6, 1 = 26 (7d6)

>>1425171
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>>1425181

What is that, 40 Influence?
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So as it stands after the initial rolls.

Defense: 15
Influence: 40
Lands: 10
Law: 13
Population: 14
Power: 16
Wealth: 46

The disparity between these rolls is hysterical. Let's hope our historical events help shore that up a bit.

So next we will be rolling for Founding and thereafter for the amount of historical events, pic related. So I need a 1d6.
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>1425263
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Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>1425263
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>>1425271
>>1425273

I'll take the first of these, as the Andal Invasion was a very interesting time in the Westerlands, will make for a different sort of founding background.

So, for that we'll need a 1d6+2, I'll take the first roll.
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Rolled 5 + 2 (1d6 + 2)

>>1425283
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>>1425287
And 7 Events it is. Bloody hell that is going to be a task.

And thus, next up, we will be rolling for Events, which will be from chart attached. I will need 7 rolls of 3d6, again feel free to multi roll.
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Rolled 5, 4, 1 = 10 (3d6)

>>1425299
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Rolled 4, 5, 6 = 15 (3d6)

>>1425299
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Rolled 4, 5, 6 = 15 (3d6)

>>1425299
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Rolled 2, 3, 5 = 10 (3d6)

>>1425299
1 Decline and 2 villains. Oh boy
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Rolled 3, 4, 1 = 8 (3d6)

>>1425299
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Rolled 3, 5, 5 = 13 (3d6)

>>1425299
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Rolled 2, 2, 4 = 8 (3d6)

2 declines 2 villians and a scandal jesus christ
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>>1425354
A favour woo!

>>1425363

and another scandal.
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>>1425373
This is gonna suck.....
Unrealated but what happened to house blackett or whatever the riverlands ironborn quest was?
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Decline
Villain
Villain
Decline
Scandal
Favor
Scandal

I'm at an absolute loss for words, what the blind fuck happened here. Never before has a more unlucky House been rolled.

So... Next up is actually rolling for the modifiers. We're going to do it this way, I will need 2 rolls of 3d6 for the Scandals, and 5 rolls of 4d6 for the rest. I will use the rolls in the order they are given and to their respective stats as I have been doing thus far.

So I will need 2 rolls of 3d6 first.
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>>1425375
Same thing that has happend to 99% of all Asoiaf quest. The QM just vanishing
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Rolled 4, 6, 1 = 11 (3d6)

>>1425376
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Rolled 6, 3, 2 = 11 (3d6)

>>1425376
Nuffle save us
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>>1425385
>>1425390

Those 5s and 6s hurt.

I need 5 rolls of 4d6 now.
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Rolled 5, 6, 4, 2 = 17 (4d6)

>>1425395
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Rolled 2, 6, 5, 5 = 18 (4d6)

>>1425395
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Rolled 2, 1, 1, 4 = 8 (4d6)

>>1425395

I leave for 10 minutes, everything goes to shit
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Rolled 1, 4, 6, 1 = 12 (4d6)

>>1425395
oh man
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Holy fuck
I kind of want to play as the backstabbing underling that rises up now
I always liked underdogs
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Rolled 4, 2, 6, 2 = 14 (4d6)

>>1425395
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Defense: 15
Influence: 32
Lands: 5
Law: 12
Population: 18
Power: 14
Wealth: 47

I have no idea what has happened. Rich as hell with middling influence and absolutely nothing else. That Lands stat is especially concerning.

So just so we have an idea of how to best spend our resources, the quest will be taking place a year before the Greyjoy Rebellion in 288AC.

To facilitate ease of ironborn murdering we have three options for where the House will be based and sworn to, as follows:

>House Farman of Faircastle
>House Kenning of Kayce
>House Lannister of Lannisport

Note given the history the House may have once loomed large in history but has found itself more akin to House Osgrey of the Reach as it is now. So while the House is not a direct bannerman of House Lannister of Casterly Rock they still hold patronage with an influential House of the realm.
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>>1425501
>House Farman of Faircastle
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>>1425501
>House Kenning of Kayce
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>>1425501
>House Lannister of Lannisport
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>>1425501
>House Farman of Faircastle
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>>1425501
>house lannister of lannisport
How do you guys want to play this?
As stated before i want to be the little double crossing bastard trying to sneak up on everybody
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>>1425535

Like to wait and see what all gets fleshed out and chosen once we can spend points for things, right now our house is a damn rich mess and I am not even sure ow someone accumulates that much wealth in a feudal economy without lands

Maybe we perform services like a bank?
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>>1425557
We could be located on a large silver/gold mine. This is the Westerlands after all.
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>>1425557
>not even sure ow someone accumulates that much wealth in a feudal economy without lands
Blackmail is such an ugly word...
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>1425512
>>1425516
>>1425523
>>1425528
>>1425535

To keep this going I'll just roll a 1d2 for it.
1 for House Farman
2 for House Kenning
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>>1425597
Alright House Farman of Faircastle is this poor House's liegelord. Which means Fair Isle is our homeland.

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Farman
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Fair_Isle

Above is some history and relevant information to go wild with in our House's history.

Most recently, this excerpt is particularly relevant:

"Some years after Lord Tywin Lannister defeated the Reyne-Tarbeck rebellion, Lord Farman of Faircastle grew truculent. Tywin sent him as an envoy a musician playing "The Rains of Castamere", and that was enough to make Lord Farman reconsider his position."

More than likely our Lord or Lady had some part in this, which would fit with our most recent Historical Event, Scandal. Or perhaps something else, feel free to bounce ideas.

Anyway, next up is purchasing our Defense Holding(s). You currently have 15 Defense, and as you can see that will purchase you, a Tower.

Now, you could spend 10 Wealth to get 5 more Defense and purchase a Hall. Or spend 5 Lands and get 5 Defense, but severely crippling yourself in what you may purchase from the Wealth Holdings. Or we could just live with the Tower. Any thoughts?
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>>1425654
I say spend some of our copious wealth for a Hall.
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>>1425654
Just go with a Tower.
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>>1425654
Go with the tower.
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>>1425654
Just a Tower is fine to me. Maybe the House lost a proper castle sometime throughout the years. Either from being villainous cunts or irondickery
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>>1425708
The first Decline is that our Castle got burnt to the ground either by accident or evil deeds and the family never really recovered from that and had to relocate to one of their towers in the area.
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Touch surprised by that, but all the same, a Tower it is.

Now we're going to skip Influence spending until the end. As I've a special vote for that. So next will be the Lands, which is picture related.

As you can see, with 5 Lands you can only purchase a Plains Domain with absolutely zero features.

Now to remedy that, you can transfer over the rest of your Defense (5) so you'll have 10 Lands and open up your options a bit.

Discuss and questions.
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>>1425788
Transfer all 5.
Get a Hills+Coast for 10.
Glad you're letting us exchange resources.
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>>1425796
Lets go with that.
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>>1425654
Maybe the first decline is we got ironborn'ed and thus spurred future generations to be shitters and thus villains.

This of fucking course caused declines and made them wise up to get back prestige.

This did not go well. They were morons and made poor decisions aka scandals

In fact it went so horrible we sided with the raynes or something suicidal.

What do you guys think?
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>>1425804
I think it's more likely we got Andaled given our founding was during the Andal Invasion and the Westerlands got a good fucking during that.
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>>1425796

This is good
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>>1425796
>>1425799

Everyone else fine with this?

Transfer 5 Defense to 5 Lands giving us 10 Lands and purchase a Hills w/ Coast for 10 Lands?
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>>1425862
sounds good to me
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Alright then, a Hills w/ coastline it is. Which opens up a world of possibilities for Wealth holdings, which you so desperately need. Plus it makes sense for being on Fair Isle.

So we don't need to do much for Law and Population just acknowledging the bonuses/penalties conferred upon your House Fortune rolls by your respective scores as seen on the chart attached.

Law is a -5 and Population is a 0.

Might be fair to say Ironborn are an issue presently. Bunch of murderous cunts they are. So to combat that will be doing Power next, in the next post.
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>>1425862
Not like it can get worse r-r-right?
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So Power.

If you haven't done this before then each unit must have a training (Green, Trained, Veteran, Elite) alongside their base unit price.

Example: a Green Infantry unit is 1+4 for a 5 Power Unit cost.

So, discuss, suggestions, etc. Might be likely the House would have something of a fleet being a coastal House. Not sure what else we'd like.
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>>1425932
Get one unit of Warships
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>>1425932
Trained Warships - 10
Green Archers - 4

Not really a lot of options with 14 Power
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>>1425932
Elite Personal Guards

Just cuz

Call them the Lamenters
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>>1425960
Can go with this
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>>1425932
>Trained warships
Need those if ironborn come back
>green archers
Just cause
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>>1425932
Going with the consensus of

>Trained Warships
>Green Archers
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>>1425963
As funny as I think it would be I doubt it would be the best way to spend our points. Even though Elite Personal Guards are the most powerful land unit in the game.

>>1425960
>>1425999
>>1426007
Looks like a good pick there. Green Archers and Trained Warships it is. I keep looking at this House's resources and feel so bad for them. It's a misery trying to put together something decent with how little we have. Hard mode here we come.

Next up is Wealth Holdings. So a couple of things regarding this given your other holdings and such you have a few limits on what all you can purchase.

>Because you have a Tower you may only purchase 1 Lifestyle Holding and 1 Settlement Holding.
>Because you have 32 influence you may only purchase 3 Personage Holdings.
>Because you have 1 Domain you may purchase only 1 Estate Holding.

Please refer to Out of Strife, Prosperity and the Homebrew Holdings for all possible options.

If you have questions or aren't completely understanding how this all works feel free to ask. Discussion and suggestions. You have 47 Wealth to work with so go crazy.
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>>1426050
Could we possible get a habour ?
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>>1426061
The closest thing to a harbor would be the Port Holding, pic related.

As you can see you do not have a Small Town necessary to purchase such a holding.
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>>1426050
Definitely think we should go Rich Mine for 20, producing silver. Our little Tower sits over the entrance, protecting our most valuable asset.

Maester for 10? Can't think of anything else.
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>>1426095
Seems like a good idea. A mine was definatly a must for us.
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>>1426095

I can get behind this
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>>1426095
This sounds like a good idea indeed.
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>>1426095
D O R F F O R T R E S S
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>>1426095
>>1426106
>>1426128
>>1426136

Sounds like we're happy to spend 30 on a Rich Mine and a Maester.

A silver mine and Maester Rycklon are now added to your assets. You now have 1/3 Personage Holdings and 1/1 Estate Holdings.

So that leaves you all with 17 Wealth left to spend. Anymore ideas?
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>>1426158
save it for a rainy day=
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>>1426158
Save it
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I've gotta' say this is the most interesting fucking House I've seen in...well forever. We're rich as fuck but that's about it.
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>>1426163
>>1426186
Saving it seems wise honestly. I'm going through everything looking for suggestions and nothing really pops out at me. I'm sure we'll think of something when the game actually starts.

>>1426193
Yeah it's an interesting one that's for certain.

So. It looks like this is our lot:

>Defense - 10
Tower (10)

>Influence - 32
None

>Lands - 10
Hills w/Coast (10)

>Law - 12
-5 House Fortune Bonus

>Population - 18
0 House Fortune Bonus

>Power - 14
Green Archers (4)
Trained Warships (10)

>Wealth - 47
Rich Mine, Silver (20) | +3 House Fortune Bonus, +2 Wealth Bonus
Maester Rycklon (10) | +3 House Fortune Bonus

A choice regarding Influence and our MC coming up in the next post.
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>>1426247
I'd love it if we used to be some big shit house back in the day, like really big shit, and over time our descendants just kept fucking things up till we're in the sorry state we are right now.
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So I few ideas on the MC for the House, I wanted to do something a bit different but want to give you guys the options if you aren't so much into it. So 3 starting options for the MC below:

You are...
>The third-born son of your Lord Father and Lady Walda Tarbeck (one of the many nieces of Lord Walderan Tarbeck). Your father and mother died during the Reyne-Tarbeck Rebellion, foolishly siding with your Lady mother's family. Your eldest brother of a chill caught in his youth the second during Robert's Rebellion, fighting upon the wrong side of history. Known throughout Fair Isle as a fair Tourney Knight with a penchant for the joust you are now 28, and stand alone as the sole heir of your House, fighting for glory and against the decline of your House.
>The Lady Wife of your late Lord House. You are a second-cousin to the main branch and he thirty some odd years your elder having never produced issue with his two prior wives. When your husband died of old age the House was left to you and your children, though they all remained far too long to inherit and lead the House during these trying times. It falls to you, the Lady of the Tower to keep your children safe in the face of looming war and declining House.
>The third-cousin of the previous Heir to the Tower. When he died without issue during Robert's Rebellion the elderly Lord, his father, named you his new Heir, pulling you from your enlistment in Ser Quenten Banefort's army upon the mainland where you were a lauded battlefield general. The idea of Lordship is foreign to you at the age of 37, the art of war more your speed than that of ruling but with the declining health of your distant cousin and Lord you find yourself thrust into a world of strife and decline, attempting to find a foothold upon which to climb back. A task made more difficult by Heather Hill, your bastard daughter who is just now coming into her womanhood.

Throughout the years your House once loomed large. Powerful and marrying to Houses of influence and wealth. Your once grand castle upon the southern tip of Fair Isle rivaled Faircastle upon a time, but is now lost to time. Though through fire and brimestone, iron and axe or Faith and man it is not known. Alongside this was the valyrian steel bastard sword, a beautiful blade of dark rippling steel and storied past. Is this blade still in your family's possession? Or is it too lost to time?

>The blade is lost to time, rumors and stories from your youth the only reminder of it now among your House.
>The blade is still in your House's possession, the only reminder of grander days and the priceless treasure of your family to this day even in your dire state.
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>>1426316
>The Lady Wife of your late Lord House. You are a second-cousin to the main branch and he thirty some odd years your elder having never produced issue with his two prior wives. When your husband died of old age the House was left to you and your children, though they all remained far too long to inherit and lead the House during these trying times. It falls to you, the Lady of the Tower to keep your children safe in the face of looming war and declining House.

Yes please woman MC, intrigue away!

>The blade is still in your House's possession, the only reminder of grander days and the priceless treasure of your family to this day even in your dire state.
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>>1426316
>The blade is lost to time, rumors and stories from your youth the only reminder of it now among your House.

>The third-born son of your Lord Father and Lady Walda Tarbeck (one of the many nieces of Lord Walderan Tarbeck). Your father and mother died during the Reyne-Tarbeck Rebellion, foolishly siding with your Lady mother's family. Your eldest brother of a chill caught in his youth the second during Robert's Rebellion, fighting upon the wrong side of history. Known throughout Fair Isle as a fair Tourney Knight with a penchant for the joust you are now 28, and stand alone as the sole heir of your House, fighting for glory and against the decline of your House.
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>>1426316
>>The third-born son of your Lord Father and Lady Walda Tarbeck (one of the many nieces of Lord Walderan Tarbeck). Your father and mother died during the Reyne-Tarbeck Rebellion, foolishly siding with your Lady mother's family. Your eldest brother of a chill caught in his youth the second during Robert's Rebellion, fighting upon the wrong side of history. Known throughout Fair Isle as a fair Tourney Knight with a penchant for the joust you are now 28, and stand alone as the sole heir of your House, fighting for glory and against the decline of your House.
>The blade is still in your House's possession, the only reminder of grander days and the priceless treasure of your family to this day even in your dire state.
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>>1426316
>third born son
>the blade is lost to time
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>>1426316

>The third-born son of your Lord Father and Lady Walda Tarbeck (one of the many nieces of Lord Walderan Tarbeck). Your father and mother died during the Reyne-Tarbeck Rebellion, foolishly siding with your Lady mother's family. Your eldest brother of a chill caught in his youth the second during Robert's Rebellion, fighting upon the wrong side of history. Known throughout Fair Isle as a fair Tourney Knight with a penchant for the joust you are now 28, and stand alone as the sole heir of your House, fighting for glory and against the decline of your House.

>The blade is still in your House's possession, the only reminder of grander days and the priceless treasure of your family to this day even in your dire state.

I like the idea of this house growing into a superpower. Also, let's break away from the 'good guy' lord for Asoif house quests.

Let's be the villain I know we can be. I'm here for recommendations on what we could do
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>>1426361
>I like the idea of this house growing into a superpower.

Unless our superpower is "survive" that is not likely going to happen. We are barely a knightly house and a medium sized island.
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>>1426316
>The third-born son of your Lord Father and Lady Walda Tarbeck (one of the many nieces of Lord Walderan Tarbeck). Your father and mother died during the Reyne-Tarbeck Rebellion, foolishly siding with your Lady mother's family. Your eldest brother of a chill caught in his youth the second during Robert's Rebellion, fighting upon the wrong side of history. Known throughout Fair Isle as a fair Tourney Knight with a penchant for the joust you are now 28, and stand alone as the sole heir of your House, fighting for glory and against the decline of your House.

>The blade is still in your House's possession, the only reminder of grander days and the priceless treasure of your family to this day even in your dire state.
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>>1426371

Always the opportunity to prove ourselves when the Greyjoys invade.
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>>1426371
But were riding into the greyjoy rebellion and are a really wealthey house(near lannister levels of wealth if i rember correctly
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Oh
Before i go i suggest a silver background on our coat of arms to represent our mine
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Alright then, so the Third-born son we are, in possession of a fabled valyrian steel blade. The other MCs exist in the universe, just re-purposed and they are the only other members of your family about.

So, another vote.

Your success in Robert's Rebellion and subsequent Tourney's held in King's Landing thereafter led you to gathering a fair share of offerings of marriage. Though more often than not they were of lesser quality, nearing insult; cousins or fourth born daughters, women older than you either touched in the head or too ugly for a reasonable sober man, lowborn merchants and Essosi attempting to raise their stock in life, and etc.

You decided...
>To marry, it was in your House's best interest for you to produce issue immediately. Even if it was with a less than favorable wife.
>To remain a bachelor, you would not take such insults lightly. You did not even waste your seed upon whores, not a bastard once had sprung from your loins, for your family's name and prestige would not be lessened by inferior wife or mother. You would find an acceptable wife someday.
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>>1426443
>>To remain a bachelor, you would not take such insults lightly. You did not even waste your seed upon whores, not a bastard once had sprung from your loins, for your family's name and prestige would not be lessened by inferior wife or mother. You would find an acceptable wife someday.
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>>1426443
>>To remain a bachelor, you would not take such insults lightly. You did not even waste your seed upon whores, not a bastard once had sprung from your loins, for your family's name and prestige would not be lessened by inferior wife or mother. You would find an acceptable wife someday.
That or we're gay.
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>>1426443
>To remain a bachelor, you would not take such insults lightly. You did not even waste your seed upon whores, not a bastard once had sprung from your loins, for your family's name and prestige would not be lessened by inferior wife or mother. You would find an acceptable wife someday.
Can we be an arrogant prick? Because I like the idea of us being an arrogant prick.
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>>1426443
>To marry, it was in your House's best interest for you to produce issue immediately. Even if it was with a less than favorable wife.
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>>1426443
>>To remain a bachelor, you would not take such insults lightly. You did not even waste your seed upon whores, not a bastard once had sprung from your loins, for your family's name and prestige would not be lessened by inferior wife or mother. You would find an acceptable wife someday.
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>>1426450
Can't wait to backstab some fuckers.
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>>1426443

>To remain a bachelor, you would not take such insults lightly. You did not even waste your seed upon whores, not a bastard once had sprung from your loins, for your family's name and prestige would not be lessened by inferior wife or mother. You would find an acceptable wife someday.

I suggest our coat of arms have a bear bring choked by a snake and our motto be something to add in to our maybe villainous nature.

>>1426448

Or bi, pan. Who knows

>>1426450

We can be a villainous prick, I really want to make Gregor and Ramsay seem like angels in comparison to us. But to be smart about it
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>>1426484
>"Break them."

Simple and to the point.
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>>1426499
Or,
"In their steps we walk."
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>>1426448
>That or we're gay.
Rumors are such a nasty thing on a small island.

>>1426450
>Can we be an arrogant prick? Because I like the idea of us being an arrogant prick.
I kind of set it up for the MC to be an arrogant prick regardless of the situation. The third-born son is very obviously up on his high horse regarding his Tourney ability and his family's name to the point where he would never suffer a bastard.

And yet another bachelor MC we have. No children baseborn or otherwise, no wife, no family. Just a sword, a tower with a silver mine, and a hell of a chip on his shoulder.

The most recent Decline event in story is the House's continued fall from grace after the Reyne-Tarbeck Rebellion, your elder brother's fighting upon the Targaryen side and dying for them and just general ruining of your name amongst the Westerlands.

So some things:

>What is our House's name?
>What is our Coat of Arms?
>What is our House's motto?
>What is the MC's name?
>What is our Tower's name?
>What is our valyrian steel bastard sword's name?
>What was the Favor event prior to the Decline we're in now?
>What was the Decline event that founded our House? (Ideas for this seem to be either Ironborn or Andal dickery, losing our once great holdings, castle, and prestige and essentially forming a cadet branch of the old House which were likely First Men. A cousin or a third/fourth born son were likely the ones that continued the line, marrying to the Andals to regain your strength and survive.)
>Who were these Villains? Why were they such consecutive dicks? Father and son?
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>>1426533
The entire family is full of shitters

like they legit have Lamenter Luck
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>>1426533
>MC Name
Raymund.
>Tower's name
The Needle
>Sword Name
Woe

That's all I got.
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>>1426551
You want to call every fancy weapon Woe
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>>1426554
No, just the Valyrian Blade.
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>>1426551
>MC name
Chadwick. name based on Jobbers
>Tower name
Chernobyl, site of great disaster
>Sword name
Spite

personally I like calling a sword Spite
like going FEEL MY SPITE MOTHERFUCKER
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>>1426568
Spite sounds good. I'll second that.
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>>1426533
Got some suggestions to the first two background events and some names for places and family.


Decline.
Addam Rowman was lord of South Fair Castle and patriach of the Rowman family. He is from where the decline of the family appeared when the castle burnt down to the ground, killing the majority of the main-branch. Only his second grandson Martyn and two nieces survived and had to move into the Tower of Silver Hill normally meant for a cadet branch.
Villain.
Martyn grew up and took control of the family in his youth before the fire he was described as a sweet, loving boy. However after the tragic accident he changed. He had a candle lit in his bed chamber and refused to have it extiguished. He began preying on the small folk and enjoyed taking great cruelty upon them. No maid in the tower was left unravished and he often had men drowned on a whim.
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>>1426580
That second one sounds good.
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>>1426533
Whatever else is on our coat of arms, it needs a badger.
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>>1426590
Badgers are mean little fucks.

We should have a dire Badger.
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>>1426533
>What is our house's name?
House Crotal
>What is the MC's name?
Cedric
>What is our Tower's name?
The Fang
>What is our valyrian steel bastard sword's name?
Viper
Snake theme?
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>>1426533

>House name

Sindri

>Coat of arms

A silver snake biting a black bear in the throat on a blue background

>House motto

I am become death, the destroyer of worlds

>PC's name

Iskand

>Tower's name

The Lance

>Valyrian steel bastard sword's name

Spite, like >>1426568 said

>Villain

>Markus Sindri

Man who spent his time killing men for the pettiest reasons. Like the Mad King, only instead of fire he had a love for watching men, women, and children be killed by boars
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>>1426601
>>1426580
Shit let's combine the Villain ideas here and have him be a guy who liked to drown people in boar pits.
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>>1426533
>What is the MC's name?

Garth

>What is our valyrian steel bastard sword's name?

Wave Breaker

>What is our Tower's name?

Silver Hill Tower.
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>>1426596
I do like the name Cedric.
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>>1426533
>>What was the Favor event prior to the Decline we're in now?
We constantly give housing to wanted men and then sell them out the next day.

Which could lead into some pissed off people wanting revenge for their family or we're known as backstabbers and lying bastards.
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>>1426624
I'm also liking Wave Breaker as the sword name and the Lance as the tower's name.

Would "Steadfast against the waves" make for a good motto?
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>>1426666
Second, but maybe "Steadfast against the tide" instead?
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>>1426596
>>1426632
I rather like the name Cedric as well. I can see a Cedric being an arrogant jackass as well. Seems like a good fit unless we get a good showing for another name.

>>1426568
>>1426574
>>1426601
Spite looks like it has a good showing. Simple and clean name, more appropriate of an older House.

>>1426590
>>1426593
A badger might be good. Anyone wants to knock something up I'd appreciate it.

Be honest nothing else really strikes me personally just the right way. Unless you guys really want to go for something.
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>>1426691
>Our name is Cedric
>Our coat of arms has a Badger on it.

Oh you fucking silly bastards.
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>>1426705
...Oh son off a bitch.
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>>1426691

Let the coat of arms have a snake in it, an ouroborus deal. Because we're a house of backstabbing assholes with one of our villains being someone who drowns people in boar pits

And another in my head stuck due to trying to think a name.

Oh, and an alternate house name

>Islington

>>1426705
>>1426724

Oh Jesus what the fuck...
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>>1426724
>>1426727
Look at him! He's perfect!
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>>1426568
I agree on having the weapon be called Spite its so fitting.

>>1426533
House Lament.
A badger fighting a large snake
'There is always a snake underfoot'
Markus Lament
The Spire.
Lord Tywin Lannister himself favored our father who was very skilled in both politics and was great at making money. Which he appreciated enough to take council with him. Damn shame about his no good sons...and him dying.

How about our house was originally a House of the First Men before they got pushed off the mainland and only barely been scraping by since. It didn't help that the moron who married an Andal woman was cruel bastard legendary for his vileness who despite having the opportunity to turn the house around squandered it and thus cursed the house ever since.

Following him came his favored grandson and only person he actually liked thus spoiled the hell out of. His grandson later killed, stole, and assassinated his way up to the lordship all the while turning to be just as bad if not worse then his grandfather.

Unsurprisingly his reign led to yet another period of decline.

As for the scandal...until then the house had been very good at covering up its wretched history. Until one day it all came to light.

Our father blessed be his departed soul was quite possibly the one and only exception. He proved to be an incredible master at both politicking despite the previous controversy and making utterly insane amounts of money as to actually be compared to the Lannisters.

We finally seemed to be up on the up and up when Tywin Lannister himself took note of him and requested his services.

Unfortunately he died and his sons have proven to be quite luckluster. Leading to yet another scandal relating to the rebellion, his shady death, and the death of the sons. Seeming cursing the house to continue rotting away after having the only hope to have appeared yet so cruelly dashed.
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Found this.
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>>1426736
>A badger fighting a large snake

Oh I rather like that, something like the Baratheon of King's Landing sigil. Field of silver/white I assume for our silver mine? A good idea, combines both of best worlds.

History seems rather solid. But we'd have to figure out the timing for our father and his friendship with Tywin. As our father was roughly 25-28 come the Reyne-Tarbeck Rebellion. Eldest brother was 6, second was 3, Cedric was 1. The brothers died after the Rebellion. Father and mother both died during, latter for obvious reasons, former, not so much, seeing as he was a friend of Tywin at the time.
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Rolled 18 (1d20)

>>1426731

His eyes hold nothing. I can see this man razing hamlets...it's perfect

>>1426736

Seems good, the name could be changed. But still good, and maybe the motto

>>1426753

Good enough

And take a guess what I'm rolling for anons
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Alright lads I'm going to pop off for the night, have work in the morning.

I'll be back around 730PM EST tomorrow. We'll roll up Cedric and finalize some details regarding the House and its history. I'll set a few scenes and we might even have a few story bits.

This was fun everyone, the story of the worst off House to ever be rolled shall be a fun one.
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>>1426825
So just like Hufflepuff then
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>>1426825
>the worst off House to ever be rolled

All we have is a tower, a mine, and arrogance.
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>>1427444
B-b-but we have a Valyrian sword!

What kinda sword is it anyway?
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>>1427444
The difference between the perception arrogance and confidence is narrow - even more so when we have money.

Our first objective should be to get more protection which expanding the mines. We dig greedily and deep.
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>>1427444
>Implying its as bad as that one Ironborn house
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>House Malroy will never ever return.
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>>1426158
With those 17 wealth left I would have gotten an Saboteurs holding for 5 or an Spy Network for 10, or both for maximum dickery and send them both outside my domains to create unrest in the neighboring lands.
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>>1427444
With a Lord that rolls 4d6 before any bonus/malus on House Fortunes this won't last long.
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>>1425375
House Blackett got Blacked
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A thought for the MC - we want him to be an arrogant prick and an evil bastard... I think it shouldn't be in a malevolent, sadistic way, more of an "eh, the ends justify the means" way. Like, "I wanted to assure peace in my lands. If that village didn't want to be put to the sword, it shouldn't have sheltered bandits" or "It doesn't matter if the daughter of this house doesn't want to marry me - I need an heir, and her daddy needs a loan. She can cooperate or not, the choice is hers."

I kind of like the idea if a guy who will impersonally burn kings landing if thats what it takes to achieve his goals, but if you don't stand in his way, will actually be an enlightened ruler. "There, I had to burn half of my rivals alive, but the rest have fallen into line, and I have peace and safety in my lands. I now decree the establishment of public works projects to guard against famine, and a public hospital for their health. Oh, that rival hasnt learned his lesson? Gather my men and the meister. I want to burn this city and infect the refugees with plague."
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>>1427764
Time to post this leitmotif again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZxxSIUbn4g
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>>1427764

Besides, this will guard against us losing, as risk/reward will be part of everything we do.

Let our epitaph not be: "Remember, good triumphed over evil this time because evil was stupid."
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>>1427764
We always play that whenever theirs an evil quest here. A person whose just completely Malevolent and sadistic would be a breath of fresh air and interesting.
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>>1428119
It's because it's the optimal way to play an evil bastard in this setting.
We were merely performing our Lordly duties. Our methods were ruthless, perhaps even excessively cruel, but by the law of Westeros we have done nothing wrong. Keeps the Ned Starks of the world off our backs.
Also, we should consider a for-profit prison system. Why send our commonfolk to work the dangerous silver mines, when we can use prisoners for that? Get our Law up high enough and we can turn the Mines of House (what name did we go woth?) into a fate worse than death, worse even than The Wall. Added benefit of that is more men choosing The Wall as punishment, helping the Night's Watch significantly.
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>>1428291

It's been mentioned a couple of times and I really like House Lament, A) it matches up with our straight up fucked history and B) it sounds like a last name that was related to the Lannisters that got morphed over the years
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>>1428296
Except you have to remember that a house is not a space marine chapter. It often varied from lord to lord. When making a name you should go back to the founder and find out what kind of person he was. Not all Lannisters are Tywin and not all Starks are Eddard
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>>1428314
>not all Starks are Eddard
Not all Starks are judgemental pricks whose pathological obsession with "muh honor" means they would rather see an entire city burn to the ground than break an oath to a madman? Even though he himself was violating his OWN duty to the King as the Lord of Winterfell by waging open fucking rebellion?
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>>1428291
Life isn't optimal and neither are people, interesting characters have flaws and positives. Building a cheater just to game a system leads to a shit roleplaying experience.
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>>1428324
Honour in Westros is like international law in our world - a convient crutch that people and nations use when it suits them
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>>1428331
As I said, it's the optimal way TO BE EVIL.
I figure BEING FUCKING EVIL is a pretty big flaw. A man whose response to "village is harboring a criminal" is "surround the village, and burn it to the ground, killing anyone who comes out, man woman or child" is a pretty fucked up dude.
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>>1428351
Evil is an alignment not a flaw
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>>1428314

I do remember that, I am not naming them after the chapter, I put in why I think that the House name fits especially with the turmoil that has plagued it throughout the ages

It could be a really cool piece of historical fluff, a past lord having seem the house fortunes fall so low, seeing us lose our ancestral seat and almost all of our lands turned to despair, praying constantly to the Seven and even renaming the house in the hopes that the Gods would see how their plans had effected us
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>>1428359
Alignments are the antithesis of complexity. My actual POINT was contained in the rest of the post. It's not that we AREN'T a warped, sadistic fuck. It's that we actually understand that actions have these things called consequences. The thing that separares us from the likes of Ramsay Snow is that we have some Seven-forsaken impulse control.
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>>1428372
You are arguing for a playing a certain type of evil for the purpose that it'll work better than us in the setting we're in. Besides Ramsay is an interesting character you might not like him but he is interesting.
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>>1428382
He IS interesting. But I don't want to play a Ramsay clone BECAUSE Ramsay is interesting.
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>>1428394
So instead your arguing we play a Roose clone?
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>>1428405
Ramsay is a tool, an enforcer used by the ruler to make people toe the line and not step over it when the ruler tighten the leash.

As soon as the tool isn't needed the ruler places it back into the toolbox.

The Mountain is a tool.
The Tickler is a tool.
Bron is a tool.
Victarion is a tool.
Vargo Hoat is a tool.
Oberyn is a tool.
Jaime is a tool until his hand gets cut and he slowly realise his nature and tries to change it.
William Bordain started as a tool and became his own thing, the biggest sentient hammer in Westeros.
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How about we compromise simply go for a ruthless and pragmatic persona? We cut the bullshit about "evil" because we certain will not see ourselves as such.
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>>1428576
Seriously, and it broadens our options. You don't have to be a fucking evil bastard to be ruthless, but it helps.
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Alright lads, sorry for the lateness. Got home from work a touch late.

Let me read through and see if we have any sorts of consensus.

Oh and throw all of your House names at me. Every suggestion weird or otherwise.
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>>1428789
>Breakspear
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>>1428789
>Assrape

But srsly
>House Cosgrove
Because it is a Luck Blackhole
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>>1428789

>Lament
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>>1428789
House Oakheart
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>>1428789
House Southpoint
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>>1428789
>House Whirlpool
Embrace the Dattebayo
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>>1428789
I'll second House Cosgrove, because dem rolls.
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>>1428819
I like this. Lament is too on the nose for me.
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>>1428819
Someday, we will overturn our family's Extremely shitty luck

>House Aisen (When were you under the impression it was Aizen?)
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>>1428894
Just shitting out names nao
>House Fuckboi
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>>1428819
I'll support House Cosgrove.
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We're even alliterative!
>Cedric Cosgrove
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>>1428934
Oh shit. When we get a daughter we could nickname her C.C.
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So it looks like we want to compromise with Cedric, not really a mindlessly evil character. But ruthless and pragmatic all the same. More of a perspective type of thing, rather than an outright evil bastard like Ramsey. Likely outsiders would view him as just another in a long line of his family. standing in stark contrast to his father. I kind of have the feel for the character, I guess Lawful Neutral would be appropriate, with more forays into evil than good. We'll have to see how it works in practice rather than theory.

>>1428819
>>1428864
>>1428867
>>1428924
Cosgrove works, not a bad name at all. I will admit Lament was a touch on the nose for me too.

We also need the Tower's name and House motto.

I believe our coat of arms is a field of white/silver with a badger and snake fighting or dancing, whatever you want to call it. Black badger, green snake? I'm not sure the specifics.
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>>1428789

House Fucked

But really, House Cosgrove is good

>>1428573

I was thinking we go a villain route where we act like a callous, detached, sociopathic machiavellian schemer and manipulating backstabber. But this just hides our sheer brutality

Criminal group hiding out in a hamlet?: Send in forces to gather everyone up, burn down their homes, and force them to march off a cliff into the crashing rocks bellow.

Someone insults off?: They get to be either sent to our mines to work to death, or end up with no eyes, hands, feet, tongue or genitals

We should also make bros with Euron Greyjoy.

>>1428945

House motto: Make the path

I'm sticking with the tower being called the Lance
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>>1428945
Go with a a yellow snake since it can represent both deceit and freshness.
>>1428966
I agree with this fucker about the motto and the tower name.
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>>1428945

>House Motto
Weather the Storm

>Tower Name
The Lance
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>>1428945
There was a "There's always a snake."
The snake could be the vein of silver our House depends on. Other the ages the vein snaked its way this and that and we always managed to follow its trail.
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>>1428945
I feel True Neutral would be better, considering he may have to break some laws in pursuit of 'Making his House Great Again!'

Optional Wall paid for by Ironscum 'Overcum wid Generosity'
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>>1428945
I'm liking The Lance for the tower name.

I like "Weather the Storm" as a house motto, but also support "There's always a snake" as an unofficial motto.
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Snakes can represent rebirth, transformations, and even immortality itself through the constant shedding of old skin into a new one.

Badgers are a clear representation of persistence, and instead of molding themselves around the world they mold the world around themselves.
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>>1428994
And though the Badger is smaller than the lion, and does not hunt in packs like the wolf, both friend and foe alike recognize the dangers that this creature presents. Determination carries a long way.
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Damn it. If we got the Elite Personal Guards, we could have called the captain Cobra Commander
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>>1428977
Expanding from that it would explain the decline and the villainous deeds the House is known for, they give no fuck whether the silver is dug from their domains or one of their neighbours and would rip your throat if you ever gets close to it.
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>>1429008
>Not calling them the Shedskins
Although I think basing our fighters around snakes is a little too on the nose.
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>>1429024
Don't make me call them the
>Foreskins
Anon

That would be an unfortunate name
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>>1428966
>>1428976
>>1428993

House Cosgrove of The Lance it is. A rather good name I think. Someday we'll need to name the old lost castle, a sort of grand thing fit for a petty King.

I'm fond of "Weather the Storm" myself, very appropriate for a this unlucky House. Any objection to that?
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>>1429068
Nope. Sounds pretty boss to me.
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>>1429068
>Diamond is Unbreakable

Or

>Strike Lightning
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>>1429090
Nigga' this ain't JoJo's.
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>>1429093
>Cedric Cosgrove just wants a rich life
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>>1429068

I am good with everything set up there
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>>1429101
All we have to do is find a Frey girl and shove a dozen of babies into her.
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>>1429119

I thought we agreed our bachelor wouldn't sully ourselves on women such as that
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>>1429125
Yeah, we need to find us someone who's actually worthwhile.
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>>1429119
>Fr*y
Nigga we have higher standards than that
Also we don't want to be caught in walders pocket
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>>1429133
But dat fertility. Not to mention the lovely, lovely dowry.
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>>1429119
>Wanting a Frey.
>Ew

We have standards anon

I'd rather go for Cerenna
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>>1429136
But walder
Also we're almost as rich as a lannister
All we need is a family with some land that fell into some coin troubles
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>>1429119

I bet you think Aerys II was the best king
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>>1429149
No. That would be Aegon the fourth
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>>1429153

Nigga please, the best king was Meaegor (or however the fuck his name is spelt).

By the way I rolled an 18 for this thread. Anyone guess what that means?

Anyone? Anyone at all?
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>>1429158
What?
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>>1429187
It's Dorne.
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>>1429119
Cedric has an outstanding offer from Lord Walder Frey regarding one of his many spawn. He's never specified which presently, but Cedric has the letter about his quarters should he ever find its necessity. In reality its the only one he never outright denied and is his "fallback plan".

>>1429145
Uhh not really sure where this "rich as the Lannisters" thing came from. The Lannisters are stupidly more rich than you. Beyond that they have production, they can guarantee they'll bring money in every month, while you are a maybe if we're lucky at best sort of situation. The amount of money that would be offered for Spite would dwarf anything you could even hope to make in your lifetime. No you are a well off House, monetarily speaking, but its all in the bank, from your father's frugality. But you are not amongst the richest of Westeros, let alone the Westerlands. A lot of the primary bannermen of the Lannisters far outstrip you.

Regardless, so we'll start with something regarding Cedric and building his character. The picture attached is where we will begin. Ignore Table 3-3, not really necessary. We will need to pick one from each of the other charts: Goals, Motivations, Virtue, Vice.

So discussion, opinions, questions, etc.
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Rolled 1, 6 = 7 (2d6)

>>1429190
Love
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Rolled 3, 6 = 9 (2d6)

>>1429190
Picking, not rolling?
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Rolled 4 (1d12)

>>1429187

Excellence
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>>1429190
Goal is Fame for the House.
Motivation would be Madness, as that is the only thing he wants.
Virtue is Devoted to seeing things through.
Vice is either Arrogant or Cruel.
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>>1429198
Aye picking, rolling is for when we don't really have a character in mind but Cedric seems to already have something to him so we can pick and choose to fit him appropriately.
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>>1429201

I'd say our motivation would be Excellence, because we want to be more than just a house in the Westerlands that's been fucked with a stainless steel horse dildo

The rest is good though
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>>1429190
Goal: Fame
Motivations: Greed or Stability
Virtues: Devoted
Vice: Arrogant
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>>1429201
I say use excellence as the justification and maybe humble as our virtue( i could see why one would go for devoted though)
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>>1429211
>>1429220
Excellence would make sense as well.

>>1429220
Devoted makes more sense to me as he's throwing everything he has into his house, irregardless of whats good for him.
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So what we have is:

Goal: Fame
Motivation: Excellence
Virtue: Devoted
Vice: Arrogant

Look about right?
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>>1429190
Goal: power
Motivation: stability
Virtue: wise
Vice: scheming
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>>1429253

This looks good
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>>1429253
Considering our House is in the shitter right now I think power,wealth, or security might be a better goal.
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>>1429253

This is good, muy bueno
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>>1429253
I'm down with that.
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Alright so what I plan to do with Character Creation is mock up three different version of Cedric.

They'll each feature his Tourney Knight background but his specialties and abilities will be allotted to three different archetypes:

>Leader
>Warrior
>Schemer

The plan was to present these to you guys tonight but time got away from me because of work and what have you. So tomorrow I'll present these and we'll figure out how Cedric ticks and it'll give him his primary benefit in the game of thrones.

Sorry I don't really have a lot for tonight lads. If you'd like to have any other discussions or history building regarding House Cosgrove of The Lance I'll be around for a few hours yet to brainstorm with you guys.
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>>1429285

It's fine mang

Already have an idea that the Lance was part of a castle, but all that remains is a tower since the rest of it fell into the sea
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>>1429275
Full Tywin
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>>1429302

But I don't want to end up with twins who fuck one another and a bastard dwarf son.

But I don't mind having a kid who's as charming and smart as said bastard dwarf.

Here's another question: who should we bro up with?
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>>1429314
Being similar in character to and being literally Tywin are two different things

I'd say buddy up with the minor Lannister's and avoid the crap out of the cleganes
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>>1429331

Just stating some main problems Tywin has that we need to avoid.

I was thinking of trying to capture Euron and make sure to get him to work for us. Make friends with Roose, and make absolutely fucking sure Littlefinger doesn't fuck us.

And of course don't get the Cleganes on our ass
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>>1429291
An interesting thought. I've considered the idea of The Lance being upon the very edge of a sheer cliff, the mine being beneath it in these windswept and eroded clefts. Beneath it is a stony beach where people will illegally pan for silver.

>>1429314
>Here's another question: who should we bro up with?

Lord Sebaston Farman is your liegelord. Might be a good idea to stay in his good graces. The Lannisters of Lannisport might be receptive. As would the branch Houses, the Lantells, Lannys, etc.

Your father's third cousin Ser Cristoff Cosgrove has a good relationship with Ser Quentin Banefort, the heir to the Banefort. However your relationship to one another is strained, likely due to his more wanton nature, propensity for whoring and drink and the very obvious love and high regard he holds for his baseborn daughter, Heather Hill. It doesn't help that he is a brilliant tactician something he is incredibly willing to lord over Cedric.

Your second cousin once removed, Lady Cecillia Cosgrove, is a Lady-in-Waiting to Lady Jeyne Farman, who is married to Ser Gareth Clifton. The Cliftons are the primary bannermen of the Farmans, even if they are only a Knightly House, not something Cedric is particularly fond of acknowledging. However Cecillia's relationship with the Lady of House Clifton puts her in a good position to either marry relatively well or make good contacts, especially at her young age. She is also one of the possible marriage options.

Your father, Lord Markus Cosgrove, befriended the Knight next door, Ser Tytos Manester. He is a witless fool of a man by Cedric's estimation, and does not deserve the land he holds, which was formerly Cosgrove land many, many years ago. Not really a lot of love lost for the Manesters on Cedric's end, and that old claim is one he's remembered. He does have a young daughter however.
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>>1429360
We are to the far west of the Westerlands. None of these people will be an issue to us. Only one who has a slight chance is Clegane and he is in the eastern part.
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>>1429368
Oh and a family tree for those interested. Very small family the Cosgroves.
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>>1429368
Stealing that Tytos Manester's lands from under his nose sounds like a promising venture.
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>>1429372
>heather hill
First on the kill list
Can't have bastards running around making our house look worse than it already does
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>>1429360
>>1429360
We don't need to avoid shit, if you avoid problems you end up with a passive mint for a Pc who is predictable to a T because they don't want people to hate them and will literally always take the diplomatic or the compromise route because they are afraid of making enemies

>making sure LF doesn't fuck
Metagaming of the worst kind
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Best I can do without a better resolution badger v. snake pic.
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>>1429382

Should we deal with Cristoff too? He won't exactly take too kindly to us killing his daughter you know.

>>1429385

What's your plan then? Fight every fucker in the seven kingdoms tooth and nail to gain more for us?

>>1429380

That's for sure
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Here's one with a green snake. This one's not as good around the snake.
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>>1429398

Pretty good, make the snake silver though.

And I think with how our character will be, we'll be major enemies with Ned and the rest of the Starks
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>>1429404
>And I think with how our character will be, we'll be major enemies with Ned and the rest of the Starks


Dude. He will be busy in the north. Why the fuck would he care about us ?
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>>1429396
Follow the lannisters as fealty demands, do whatever we can in legal and semi-legal fashion to enhance our house and our prestiege in court even if it makes us enemies
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>>1429404
I very much doubt we'll be even remotely on the Stark radar until the WotFKs. Even then, we might not even see active combat with northmen this far west.

Chill out on the meta shit. We arent even a nameworthy Lannister banner. Think way smaller.
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>>1429406

I'd say why, but I don't wanna meta

>>1429407

I'm all for it
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>>1429368
>He does have a young daughter however
How young?
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>>1429398
lose the scales on the snake it's just superfluous IMO, we cant tell its a snake in design anyway
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>>1429404
Here. The first one is still better though.
>>1429422
Need someone with more skill/patience than me for that.
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>>1429414
I have a genuine curiosity myself. I can't think of a single way the Starks would care about the Cosgroves unless they did some real fucked up shit during Bobby B's Wild Westerosi Ride. Like Clegane tier. Otherwise, lost on me.

Have to remember in the grand scheme of things House Cosgrove is just barely above landed Knight status. Wouldn't be surprising if even most Westerlanders don't recognize them outside of being historical cunts.

So please, do elaborate.

>>1429419
She is 12 and his only child. Ser Tytos Manester is currently looking for a second wife as his first has passed. He's made a few tries at Cecillia, but... Well you never know. He does have a younger brother about who will have a claim should he pass.
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>>1429426
Ten billion hours in photoshop

>>1429453
>12

Old enough to be wedded and bedded if they have reservations we can give a ''generous'' dowry
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>>1429453
>Ser Tytos Manester is currently looking for a second wife
We should try and arrange an 'accident' for him before he is successful in this endeavour
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>>1429453
>She is 12
Not interested.
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>>1429476
Yeah, pass.
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>>1429476
>>1429483
squeamish boy buggers
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>>1429490
If we're fucking anything that's twelve it better be twelve married women.
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People age guys. Just wait a couple of years
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>>1429493
>Have the chance to be truly ruthless ambitious son of a bitch
>Wants to be a generic womanzier

how does it feel to suck anon?
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>>1429502
>There's noting ambitious about wanting to fuck preteens. That's like having ambitions to drink from a sippy cup when there's a 48oz right next to it.
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>>1429516
she's the only child of a landed lord putting a child in her gurantees her lands for us, it has nothing to do with wanting to fuck a preteen like you suggest
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>>1429531
Is she 12?
Then she's a preteen, and I don't know if you remember health class, but putting a baby in someone usually means fucking them or reverse birthing that shit.
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>>1429542
I thought we were playing a character who lives in a society where marrying and fucking a 12 year old is fine.
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>>1429542
my point was, its not just about getting her pregnant, its more about her utility as a claimaint

>>1429545
this but again its only for the claim not the frankly awful child marriage
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>>1429453

I'm just feeling tired, got to my head

>>1429490
>>1429531
>>1429545

Can I point out that id you want to marry her, that she's a BASTARD CHILD. We get fucking nothing from this, nothing we so desperately need like LAND
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>>1429615
>>1429615
No she isn't qm didn't mention she was at all and besides we get her land if we're her husband and her father dies.
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>>1429615
she isnt a bastard, I don't know where the hell you're pulling that from but its not from where you think it is
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>>1429616

Nevermind, I was thinking of distant cousin of our dead dad.

I'll go commit seppuku now
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sup
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>QM got Clegane'd
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>>1431271
This is the fate of all who tries to run a asoiaf quest,
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If OP ever comes back,

Do you guys think we should join some Big Bobby B tourneys for some dosh? OP said we were some hotshot jouster
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>>1436180
Balon's Drowned God Wild Ride will kick in a year's time and after that Big B will organize a tourney in Lannisport. As the QM said here.

>>1425501
>the quest will be taking place a year before the Greyjoy Rebellion in 288AC.
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>>1436203
If we do participate in the tourney we should into whatever bracket the mountain is in just so we can kick his ass than get nearly killed
Would be a great way to get some prestige to our name
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>>1436218
Thats a hell of a way to get dead kick, so Im going to go with no
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>>1425038
BUMP!
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