BIRTH OF A CIVILIZATION

Rhine

>>103162
Danube

>>103162
We wuz kangs of the kongo

Tigris and Euphrates

Thames

>>103162
Yang-Tze

>>103199
Not an option nigga, your closest bet would be Rhine.

>>103162
Mekong

Nile

>>103193
This is me btw. Moved over to pc. Not sure exactly how this works, do we each control our own Civ?

>>103228
No, it was actually intended for everyone to control 1 civ, as that would be a lot easier for me handle.

At the very best I could do 2 civs, but 1 for each river would be overkill, I'm sorry.

>>103173
Backing this

We should all pick a trip so op knows will know who is who.

>>103241
I would rather you don't
>>103236

>>103193
This. Tigris and Euphrates

>>103244
Sure if you want no trips.

>>103257
They're not necessary since I want you guys to all play as the same civ.
I appreciate the offer though.

danube

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>>103263
Alright, lets make this easier on OP. So far, Danube, Tigris & Euphrates, and Rhine all have 2 votes. Lets decide between these three.

>>103276
Rine

>>103282
Rhine

>>103276
T & E

>>103276
I was thinking about doing that, but you never know, maybe suddenly 3 people show up and vote for Indus or something like that.

Well guess we're going with this now then.
Appreciating the help.

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>>103276
Tigris & Euphrates

>>103295
No problem, just trying to expedite the process

>>103276
I'll go with Danube, since no one said OP can't vote.
And to fuck with you guys a bit.

>>103276
Tigris and Eupharates please.

>>103322
If we start in the danube, are we neanderthals?

>>103365
No, because the last known Neanderthals died around 30k BC in northern Spain.

But I'm going with T&E since it has the most votes as of right now.

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>>103326
>>103304
>>103293

Due to popular vote, our people start in the Middle-east at the mighty Tigris and Euphrates rivers.

There are several tribes around the northern parts of the rivers, far away from the mighty Sumerians who live in in a HUGE CITY known as Ur with allegedly more people than all northern tribes combined!

The question is now though, what tribe exactly are we?
Pick your colour.

And yes I do realize the dots are tiny, but the map is also huge.

>>103409
Green

>>103409
Judeans(well ther ancestors at least)

>>103409
red

>>103424
So, blue?

>>103419
Backing this

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>>103424
Come on now

>>103409
>Babylon
>Blue

>>103409
Red.

>>103436
We're in the ancient mid east, they have the coolest mythology and culture since Ur is taken

Fuck it lets be ahistorical

Annunakim

>>103453
To be fair, this was never meant to be historical, it's alternate history.

>>103465
>alternate history
In what manner? Fictional names that never existed? Or events that change due to our actions?

>>103473
>Or events that change due to our actions?

I like this idea a lot.

>>103473
Both

We're an emerging fictional civilization, affected by and changing, real historical events, while adding some made-up ones to the mix.

>>103488
The ancient Middle East is shit. All deserts and camelfucking.

>>103488
In that case lets go with >>103453

Voting for red.

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>>103441
>>103427
>>103511
Since Red won out with 2 votes ahead of everyone else, we are the Red tribe now.

It is time to Pick our capital from among these tribal villages that have just been united under the Rule of our new King.

What's his name?
What's are our Cities called?
And what are we called for that matter?

>>103518
A is the capital city of Thumim, and our king is Arakh. B is Velok, C is Ku'ah, and D shall be Yugioh, the heart of the cards.

We shall be called the Kangs.
cuz we iz, and will beh, Kangs of tha Tigris an' dah Euphrates

Ruler: Tutankai
Cities:Amras, Belphos, Emria, Bibeala and Dir
We are the Lormians

>>103531
oh and fuck e, we'll name it Aghie, with a silent Aghi.

>>103518
>King Agamon
>Capital at A, because of its central location
>Annunakiminites

>>103531
This, all disputes will be solved via card duels

>>103518
>Tiktak
>Gold, Silver, Bronze, Iron, Copper
>Sandmen

>>103518
How is this going to be decided? Would it be better if we have a mish mash of the stuff already posted?

>>103518

Voting for A as capitol

>>103546
That's the idea and obviously things with more votes or similarities will have a bigger weight

Is the thread dead?

I think we blocked at the names OP just pick them randomly so we can start doing more intersting things

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Sorry for the wait guys, I'm really bad at finding and editing pictures, in case you're wondering what took me so long.

So our Glorious king Tutankai has brought our people together and declared Thumim to be our people's Capital.

It is truly a golden age for the people of Annunakiminem, new technologies brought to us from trade with the Sumerians have made their way to us, and our glorious King wants to share them with us.

>Will we adopt the Sumerian writing system?

>Will we base our Writing system on theirs but different?

>Will we create a new one from Scratch with their knowledge?

>>103759
Adopt the Sumerian writing system. It's faster and easier for us to communicate with others who share it as well.

>>103759
Base our writing system on Sumerian but adapt it to fit our own language.

>>103764
This, being able to speak and write the language of our neighbors will come to our advantage

>>103759
yeyeye

>>103764
>>103791

It is around 2300 BC now.
We have adopted the Sumerian writing system and incidentally came to adopt their language at this point.

Things aren't looking great right now.
Sargon of Akkad is relentlessly conquering his neighbors.
Assyria and Sumeria have already fallen and we're next.

>Will we defeat Sargon in battle and remain Independent?

>Will we become part of the Akkadian Empire?

>>103930
We fight to stay independent

Should we roll?

>>103930

remain independent

>>103930

I vote for staying independent.

>>103930
Gather the people who remain and fight!

>>103930
Independent.

>>103949
>>103951
>>103974

We beat back the Akkadians, bringing the conquest of Sargon to a halt.

The Annunakiminite Empire remains independent, but at a great cost.

Many people were slain on both sides.
The economy is in ruins and the Akkadians refuse to trade with us.

Word of our heroic victory has reached to far away Empires however.
A messenger from a people known as the Egyptians introduces himself to our King.

Although labeling us as inferior, they acknowledge our military prowess and wish to trade.

>Will we trade with Egypt?

>Will we deny trade with Egypt?

>>104052

Trade

We need to stimulate the economy

>>104052

Neither.

Invest in our technology and production of goods.

THEN trade.

>>104052
>Send the messengers head back
>We won't be talked down to

>>104063
>>104065
This.

>>104065
Also this

Can we start rolling for what we decide to do? Adding a little RNG never hurt no one

>>104080
Honestly I prefer votes
but a little bit of rolling could be fun.

Tell ya what, you can roll for custom decisions.
If you want to see something entirely different, roll a d100 and get either dubs or 100 to let others vote on it.
If it doesn't conflict with what is already going on, I can let it pass without votes.

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>>104080
>>104095


I have a really good idea for a write-in option if everyone interested.

There appears to be a large abundance of river beasts in our area that feed off of pretty much the simplest of grasses.

They also have a gestation period shorter than cows.

Perhaps if we managed to hold some captive until they stopped trying to kill us, we could sell their meat to this new empire.

> extreme husbandry

>>104052
>>Will we trade with Egypt?
Getting new goods so we can regrow our people.

Rolled 47 (1d100)

>roll a d100 and get either dubs or 100 to let others vote on it

A long shot but I'll take it

Rolling for >>104103

Otherwise voting for >>104063

>>104103
Lets do it we can tame them and get hippo calvary.

Rolled 25 (1d100)

>>104103
I vote that we instead train them as war animals / general working animals.

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>>104103

I like the sound of that.

Also if anyone could find me some good blank maps of the middle-east, preferably including major rivers, that would be great.

Also I'd like one that doesn't do THIS bullshit when paint-bucketing.

Rolled 17 (1d100)

>>104103

>>104103

I vote we domesticate the land whale

>>104156
it's the Bronze age, tumblr hasn't been invented yet

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Rolled 66 (1d100)

>>104138

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>>104138

>>104158
>when u execute rebels outside ur city gate
#justbronzeagethings

>>104163
WE GOT DUBS
also I've tried that one already.
>>104168
This one is pretty good tho, thanks.

>>103518
Isn't this where garden of eden is supposed to be

>>104205
No idea senpai.

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>>104063
>>104065
>>104072
>>104103
>>104109

Our people have opened trade with Egypt, hoping for prosperity.
Meanwhile through the rigorous effort of disgruntled Farmers who kept getting attacked by Hippos on their fields, we have managed to tame these beasts and raise the first generation of tamed Hippos in captivity, setting the path for domestication.

New troubles are plaguing the Empire though.
The line of Tutankai has died out and many usurpers are just waiting to fill the vacuum left by the death of King Tutankai IV.

A civil war has broken lose.
Each major city has elected another King.
All of them are fighting for the Capital.
The Guards of Thumim are overwhelmed with so many besiegers.
A young Guardsman of only 20 years has taken it upon himself to lead the Garrison of the Capital to victory and put the usurper Kings back into their place.

What is this boys name?

>Will his efforts succeed?

>Will one of the 4 Usurper Kings stand victorious? (If yes, what is his name?)

>>103538
agamon? Is that you achilles?

>>104292
The guards name is Achilles.

>>104292
>>Will his efforts succeed?
That boy is a shining hope for the kingdom.

Rimes or Achilles, because why not.

>>104292
Achilles shall unite the empire and using harsh tactics, will brutally execute the """"KINGS"""" and replace their heads with a horses cock.

>>104325
>>104335
>>104359

Achilles rallies the Guards and introduces them to his ideas of warfare.
They lure the enemy into the city and overwhelm them from all sides.
The Siege is broken and the Usurper Kings flee.
Their armies follow them, many joining Achilles, begging for forgiveness.

Achilles forgives their sins and sends them right back into battle.
With this increase in numbers, Achilles manages to take back Dir, gaining the trust of the people and an increasing in manpower.
Yug-ioh fall next, followed by Ku'ah.
Finally with the Siege of Belphos, the last Usurper King surrenders.

The captured Kings are returned to the Capital where a great parade is held in honor of this outstanding Guardsman : Achilles.

The four Usurper Kings are kneeling before him.
He can do with them however he pleases.

>Will Achilles kill them?

>Will Achilles forgive them?

>Will Achilles banish them?

>>104401

Forgive.

>>104401
They are pinned to the city gates as a warning.

>>104401
>offer them a choice between death and banishment

>>104401
KILL THEM!
WHILE ACHILLES IS YOUR KING, TREASON SHALL NOT GO UNPUNISHED! SALT THEIR BLOODLINES AND BURN THEIR FAMILIES! LEAVE NO ONE TO RESIST US!

>>104421
Actually, rethinking. Have them all beheaded.

>>104401
Serve us or be removed.

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Madagascar. Become an isolationist, neutral community. Economy based on friendly trade of agricultural products, minerals, and art pieces created by natives. Travel is exclusively trade based, simply put: large walls around all cities, any and all outsiders are forbidden from buying property or taking natural resources. Foreign policy: Trade, then get out. Central government will stay out of war at all costs, but will not become a member of the UN or any other global organizations.

>>104401
Have them kill each other, the last one standing is pardoned.

>>104513
Holy shit, this

Rolled 19 (1d100)

>>104513
Rolling for this

Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>104521
>>104513
Reroll

Rolled 69 (1d100)

>>104513
R-r-r-rolling for this. Use the blood of the dead ones to bathe the other one, making him a eunuch champion of the realm.

>>104546
>sixty nine
it is destined to occur.

>>104555
>Trips

DO IT

Rolled 59 (1d100)

>>104546
69 has got to count for something

Reroll one last time
>>104513

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>>104555

Achilles forces the Usurper Kings to fight each other to the death, the last usurper who remained was granted freedom. Achilles declared himself King shortly thereafter.

Despite being a usurper himself, no one questions his right to the throne, after all he saved the Empire.

To prevent such a civil war from happening again, he issues succession laws, to keep his dynasty in place forever.
He goes down in history as "the Great"

In his reigning days, he expands the Empire to near double its size, founding several cities along the way.

What are these cities called?
What do we call this huge lake in our Empire? (IRL that's Lake Van)

>>104577
Call the one next to Lake Van, something relating to Van, or Lake.

That's about it.

>>104577

The lake is the Triumpharic.

>>104577
Kostos

Zabur

>>104577
It shall be named after Achilles himself after a great battle transpired next to it.

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>>104602
These

This actually seems like its gonna turn out well for a civ. Lets not fuck it up with a plague or something

>>104616
I might be a bit retarded on that but, what is it with these places?
You seem to know something, and I can't find shit about either on wikipedia.

>>104103
HIPPO MOUNTS

Can we have a stat chart?

I love how we domesticated hippos before cows and horses.

We should continue to develop our extreme husbandry tech and become a zoologist empire because screw the meta.

>>104657
Well I'm not sure what the first one is but I know off the top of my head that Zabur is a book from the Qur'an. Not really cities but they seem to be neat names we can borrow.

>>104672
I'm no good with charts, you can make one if you want, meanwhile I can provide you with some stats.

There are roughly 1 million people living in the Empire.
We speak Sumerian.
We write in Cuneiform.
We use Bronze tools.
Also Bronze weapons in the form of Spears , Shields and Helmets.
We have domesticated Hippos and Cows behind the scenes.
We have never seen Horses and don't know how to ride either.
We are yet unconquered.
And we have some decent trade going on with Egypt.
Akkad is our Nemesis.

>>104714
>Hippos and Cows behind the scenes
>Hippos

I cast my vote to make the Hippo our Sacred Animal

>>104714

1 million seems a bit too much, but hey.

Let inspire some scientific libraries. Perhaps we can bribe smart citizens to form biology-based clubs.

>>104735
Well the world population as of right now is about 30 million

considering we're talking about the ancient middle-east, 1 million seems fair for an empire our size in the fertile crescent.

Rolled 21 (1d100)

>>104735

Roll for zoology-based enlightenment era?

>>104789

Anyone want to back-up roll this?

>>104789
Lets wait for an update before doing anything else

Going to be super autoatic but if we are still speaking Alkadian, Achilles would be something closer to Ašuštual.

Rolled 66 (1d100)

>>104789
BACK UPR OLL

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At the end of his reign, Achilles orders a gigantic monument be built, a tomb worthy of his body.
Taking inspiration from the Egyptians, who have just a few decades ago built the mighty Pyramids.

just outside Achillea, an enormous Citadel with a near-perfect Octagonal shape is erected, around it, triangular towers and at it's center a gigantic Bronze statue of Achilles himself. Underneath this behemoth lies a shaft leading deep into the ground, where Achilles is put to rest.

A new age is dawning on Annunakiminem.
n Egypt the old Kingdom is coming to an end and the Akkadian Empire is about to collapse.

>>104789
NEXT STOP IS WAR ELEPHANTS!!!

>>104820
we aren't speaking Akkadian m8, akkad never conquered us.
We speak a dialect of Sumerian.

>>104835
Zoology-based enlightenment?
>>104841

>>104844
War Hippos

>>104841
I vote for helping our old rivals. Having a strong ally could do wonders.

We're entering the 22nd century BC

Egypt has fallen apart, our trade with them however increased enormously thanks to all these new Egyptian states ringing for superiority.

Akkad has fallen as well and in it's place the Neo-Sumerian Empire has risen.
Now they're invading us and it is once again time to make a choice.

>Will we hold them off?

>Will they conquer us?

>Will we fight longer than necessary to take the fight to them?

>>104841
Launch a campaign into lower Mesopotamia,

>>104888
>take the fight to them

This is our chance to forcibly expand our empire.

>>104888
Send a assasin to kill their ruler.

Rolled 13 (1d100)

>>104888

Now is the time to strike

Take the fight to them.

Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>104903
FIGHT!

Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>104903
>>104934

Backups baby!

Rolled 91 (1d100)

>>104934
>>104903
REINFORCING

>>104952
>>104962

Thats better

>>104847
Oh sorry bro the sprachbund confused me.

Zaraherin would be the Sumerian term for Achilles.

>>104997
Also i know its a DP,but I find humor in the fact that in this universe its possible that would get Translated into Sauron by the time it hit europe.

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Determined to win and crush their enemies once and for all, our people stop the enemy invasion dead in its tracks and launch a counter-offensive so massive, that the Neo-Sumerians have no chance of retaliating.
Everything they conquered up to this point, now falls under our jurisdiction.

To assert dominance over our conquered foes, and to distinguish ourselves from these people who dare call themselves Sumerian, we give our language the new name Annunakian and force it upon them.

Egypt meanwhile has recovered from its civil war period and trade with our Empire has declined as a result.

We are facing an economic break down and have a high risk of running into revolts in the near future.

We can suppress them, but that might only make things worse.

What will the Empire do from here?

>>105037
Suppress the revolts, kill any and all dissenters. We need to show them who's in control.

>>105037

Fund public libraries and bribe celebrities to enforce studying.

Hopefully the blind excitement of discovery will distract people from our injustices.

>>104841
Hey wait a sec... did we just build the Norsun Tepe?

>>105064
I have no idea what that is, I just tried thinking of something huge and cool that isn't a Pyramid, and also physically possible.

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>>105080
Octagon with a pyramid on top (you can see the scaffolding) its in the area

>>105100
Well this looks nothing like the thing I described to be honest, still cool tho.

>>105037
Federalize, each city gets a king and gets to rule as long as they pay taxes in food and slaves. If a city gets to expensive to run just cut them loose, if a profitable city holds out, crush it with resources pulled from other cities.

By playing each city as an indivudal interest we serve there needs while making bank.

>>105115
>>105058

We could also theoretically do both of these at the same time.

>>105115
No. Constant absolute monarchy.

Rolled 48 (1d100)

>>105058

Screw. We do it live.

>>105115
Federations are not possible nor realistic.

>>105058
This, if we go down at least try to leave a great technological and cultural legacy.

>>105149
>>105155

Care to add a roll friend? Or do you think it's not worth the risk?

>>105155
Confederacy then, my point is in this age big empries were pretty hard to keep, just let loc rulers rule locally and collect taxes/tribute.

In fact "empires"of this era often were one city ruling another especially if they controlled the aqquaducts in the south.

Rolled 19 (1d100)

>>105155
>>105173
YOLO
O
L
O

>>105181
FUCK
MY
SHIT
UP
SENPAI

>>105173
Sorry mate, I fucked your roll.

>>105181
>>105149

SOMEONE HELP US!

>>105125
Yeah if anything encourage rebels to sell out. Bow to us and everyone else will bow to you. King of Kings was a title for a reason. Fuck it, we could even go full Edo Aztec and build a royal court of all there family members that conveintly holds their whole dynasty randsom.

Rolled 45 (1d100)

Rolling for King of Kings

Am I the only one here?

>>105232
Na, we're just waiting for OP.

>>105243
well and I'm waiting for you guys to decide so I can post my last update before I'm off for the next like...8 hours

>>105250

Oh, so you're not counting our rolls?

THANK GOODNESS!

I think the majority wants:

>>105058

>>105262
I don't care about the method, I only count the results.
If you guys think rolling decided the winner, then I'll go with that.

>>105262
Judging by the rolls>>105058
wins anyway so I'm not quite getting the fuss

>>105285

I think we misinterpreted about what rolling meant. Oh well.

>>105285
3 for the libraries
2 for the King of Kings plan
1 for supression and killing

I personally would like to merge my idea into the library one if it is allowed

>>105299

> zoology-based libraries

As a counter-measure to uprisings, our King has issued a new law, that demands every Adult man to attend School for 5 years and un-wed or childless Women 1 year, to ensure people to buy into our Culture.

To support this tactic, many new libraries were built, at least 1 in every city.
Priests and other influential figures across the conquered territories are bought into our life-style with significant sums of money, convincing others that our civilization is indeed the superior one.

Handling an Empire of such scale however is quite the daunting task, but the King not wanting to lose any power, decided to introduce a system of delegates into the Empire.

Local vice-roys are appointed by the King for each city, every single one of them being Eunuchs titled as Enalu. They send monthly reports of their duties to Administrators known as Enalugals, who take care of Imperial matters under the orders of the Enki - The King himself.

It is truly a promising system.
(GG this is it for now - I'll continue when I get back from campus)

I think moving towards a mix of democratic and oligarchic technocracy style government would be beneficial.

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Our reign of the people of Mesopotamia is a prosperous one.
Slowly but steadily they have assimilated into our society.
They have learned our language, and shaped it as well.
Our people have reached an unprecedented state of wealth, in which even the poorest of the poor can afford to own at the very least 2 or 3 books, and are able to read them.
Truly a magnificent and enlightened society we have created.
But alas no Golden Age is forever.
The Enki is well aware of that.
Thus, they began a new series of territorial expansions, to get the rest of Mesopotamia under our control.
They hope to keep this age of prosperity going on just for a little while longer.

Centuries have passed since then and the tides of fate have turned.
Egypt has fallen once more into civil war.
Meanwhile a people of conquerors from the west have come to lay claim to the entire Levant!
They call themselves the Hittites and they are truly formidable foes.

We are now writing the year 1595 BC

>Will we fight the Hittites to the bitter end?

>Will we surrender and learn from them?

Fight to the bitter end

>>106356
ally with egypt and kick hittites asses.

>>106449
This, say you'll be next if we get taken down.

>>106449
you do realize Egypt is currently engaged in a civil war right?

Against all odds we continued fighting the Hittites, but we were no match for them.
They were riding beasts of war called Horses, some even carried carts with archers in them.
The Enki sends word to an advancing Egyptian Army, that despite the civil war, has engaged the invading Hittites. In a last ditch effort to save his people and his Empire, the Enki joins up with the Egyptian contingent and press into Hittite territory, cutting their supply lines.

The Hittite army responds

>Will they flank us?

>Will they face us head-on?

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>>106473
Head-on.

Rev up the War Hippos

>>106478
No war hippos yet, remember no riding.
Whatever the out-come though, we WILL have them after this.

>>106488
We don't have to ride them. We have had them domesticated for a while right? Strap them with spikes and send them towards the enemy like beserker units.

>>106499
Okay fair enough, if you get the votes for it, we'll o it.

>>106473
They'll face head on.

>>106499
Backing this.

>>106499
THIS

Rolled 15 (1d100)

>>106356
Use political maneuvering to pit the Hittite tribes against each other, try and convince some chiefs to become client members of the empire, answering only to the King himself and maintaining relative independence with the King's protection so long as they remain loyal. Perhaps these strange Indo-European barbarians and their horses could be of use to us, no?

Knowing full well that even our Joint forces won't survive a full-on assault of the Hittites, our soldiers have resorted to desperate tactics.
They have freed the Hippos we brought as food supply and strapped spear-heads onto them.
Hoping for a miracle, they chase the Hippos into the crowd and let them charge straight into the Hittite ranks.

Our Armies clash and our Hippos are causing disarray among the Hittites, lowering their Morale - just the opportunity we needed!

With all of our might we managed to earn a decisive victory against the Hittites.

The Egyptian Army returns home and so do our forces to reinforce the Garrisons and rebuild our defenses.

We may not know where these "Horses" came from, but we do know that both Egyptians and Hittites know how to utilize them as war-beasts, so maybe we should get ourselves some as well.

Perhaps we can convince the Egyptians to teach us how to ride them.

Weeks after the battle near Aleppo, ambassadors of Hittites , Egyptians and Ourselves meet in Thumim for a unique event with no precedence in all of history.
All three of these great Kingdoms sign a formal peace treaty, the very first of its kind!

With this, the war is over, neither side has gained anything but Glory or Shame.

Where will we go from here?

>>106558
Train hippos to let them be rideable.

>>106558
Let's send out explorers, one in each direction, to learn more about what's out there. We wouldn't want to be caught by surprised by another barbarian horde riding in from off the map, would we?

>Perhaps we can convince the Egyptians to teach us how to ride them.
/his/ here, neither the Egyptians nor the Hittites rode horses, they used them to pull chariots. Horses at this time were much smaller than they would be later, they weren't as tame, and saddle technology was extremely limited. Forget fighting from horseback, you'd be considered a crazy person for just jumping on a horse's back and trying to ride it. Camels, on the other hand...

>>106584
Well I worded myself poorly here.
I did mention in the earlier posts tho that they're pulling chariots aka "carts with archers in them"

This is what I actually meant by it.

Also, what do you think of our Hippo strats? I know Hippos can't ACTUALLY be domesticated IRL, not even with modern tech, but hey, it's a game, doesn't all have to make sense.

>>106558
We should turn our focus towards science, and promote learning and discovery.

>>106595
Invent longer spears and falanga formation.
We don't need horses

>>106595
Hippo strats best strats

>>106602
Backing this

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>>106603
i mean this

>>106602
>>106605

guys, please, we're an highly educated society to begin with.

>>105349
>>106356

We have mandatory school for EVERYONE and public libraries in almost every town.

>>106612
Never such thing as too much science.

>>106612
Point. Philosophy maybe? Mathematics? or maybe the bleeding edge of technology?

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>>106616
Actually, you're right OP. Lets switch gears and focus on defensive policies. Say, build a wall?

>>106595
>I know Hippos can't ACTUALLY be domesticated IRL
I mean, strictly speaking it isn't TOTALLY impossible. The two main issues with trying to do it is 1) Hippos take a while to mature so successive generations are much further apart than in something like dogs or horses, and 2) Hippos are pissy motherfuckers and it's really fucking hard to selectively breed them because they do what/who they want when they want. In theory, you could just kill all but the beta hippos so that you forcibly alter the gene pool, but that's a really inefficient way of breeding that can net you some unintended results. Plus, hippos' most unique trait is that they're fat pissy horses that can swim and bite harder than a salt-water crocodile, but it's also the biggest obstacle to domesticating them, much less making a cavalry out of them.

>>106616
We gotta be realistic tho.
So far we have been extremely peaceful, except that 1 time we invaded Neo-Sumeria.

If you want more tech we need an incentive to do so, and so far in history, that has almost always been war.

If we become militant conquerors, then we get more science, but there too has to be an incentive for us to shift our way of life this drastically.

>>106622
We could colonize into Lower Arabia with fortress-cities, as well all know those nefarious proto-Bedouins can't be trusted!

>>106630
>>106622
Sounds like a plan desu.
Maybe we can get our hands on Camels as well.

Gotta domesticate 'em all.

>>106558

We should try to either ride the hippos or look for a way to make them more threatening on their own. Maybe mount shields over them?

>>106626
There are other incentives, like navigation tech for explorers. Speaking of which, exploring towards the west and to the sea would be good.

Please come to a conclusion guys so I can continue the story.

I'll be afk for a bit.

>>106652
Who's in favor of building fortress cities towards Lower Arabia and sending out explorers?

>>106652
I vote we explore west and reach out to other civs.

>>106656
Aye

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>>106656
>>106658
>>106659
Ok great you came to consensus.

After the horrendous war against the Hittites that we barely managed to survive, the Enki has decided that it is best to secure our borders, thus we founded several forts near our Key-cities at the border.

Over the past decades we managed to find and domesticate some of these "Horse" animals ourselves.
We tried to ride them, but they proved too uncomfortable to be properly used.
Instead we have managed to train our Hippos to be ridden by us into battle.
They may not be the fastest animals around, but they have a decent speed and are quite fearsome.

After all of this, we managed to expand into Bedouin territory in the south.
These areas are quite hard to control and they're not easy to settle, so we decided to erect Fortress-cities at our southern Borders.

These Bedouins were riding strange animals, they called them Camels.
We managed to trade with some of them and get a hold on a sizable Camel population to domesticate.
They used them to attack our Fortress-cities.

Come to think of it, what are they called?

Rominai, keros, lavai, mesisto

Ashtarchemosh
Thema

Amennekht
Nasch-ti-nebef

I hope it's cool to use a name generator. I'm bad with coming up with names.

>>106992
We know our neighbours to the south and west, but we know nothing about any eastern and northern neighbours. We need to send explorers to find out if anyone live in that direction.

>>107430
This. We could use some info on what lies past our borders. It will allow us to better plan for the future, be it foreign armies, animals or resources.

Also Jamalstan for camel land. Jamalstani for its populace.

>camel people from camel land

>>106992
Call one Akhesh, the Bedouin name for the greatest of our kings.

Frankly, these Bedouins need to be taught a lesson in humility. I'm not suggesting we conquer them, that land is almost as worthless as the people in it, but the world needs to know that one cannot simply raid the divinely oriented territory of the Annunakiminem and suffer no consequences. If we let them clash against our walls like so many flies on a camel's ass, we look weak.

Anyone who says our hippo mounts are too fantastical don't seem to realize

A. That we been working on this skill since the DAWN OF CIVILIZATION

and

B. The human race is kinda known for doing shit deemed impossible.

>>107784
Name literally one thing man has done harder than domesticating hippos for use in war before the Common Era (protip: you can't).

I don't care, it's fun, but don't try and pretend that it's in any way plausible.

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>>107868
>Name literally one thing man has done harder than domesticating hippos for use in war before the Common Era
>Your mother

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>>107879
touche, anon. touche.

>>107868

Fair enough. I actually agree with you that keeping things brutally realistic would make the game more fun (history fag myself).

That said, it IS fun to start off with one "retard bonus" as an exception.

OP....

>>106356
Fight to the bitter end

Come back soon OP, I really like this quest.

>>109765
That's nice to know.

>>107966
I actually do try to be realistic here, even when we did something as retarded as domesticating Hippos.

>>107868
Building the Pyramids with nothing but copper tools and raw manpower sounds pretty close if you ask me.

Ok with that out of the way, time for our next update!

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After this small act of colonization to the South to secure the last bits of fertile land at our Gulf known to us, we sent out a band of scouts and explorers into the east, to make first contact with what ever barbarian peoples lie beyond our Horizon.

After Egypt recovered from its Civil war and created the " New Kingdom ", they overwhelmed the Kingdom of Kush and conquered it.

We opened up trade again after these relations were lost in the civil war.
We learned of an Egyptian military expedition into a -to them- mythical land known as Punt, and offered to accompany them.

They were not fond of our troops joining theirs, but they agreed to it after we offered them a fair sum of Gold.

This land of Punt is inhabited by a strange folk with black skin, but appears to be very rich.
We promised the Egyptians to not have any relations with Punt after this discovery, the Enki agreed reluctantly.

Our expeditions to the east were a lot more successful though.

It appears we have no immediate neighbors to the east, but very far away, there are several peoples of the steppes who seem to be a bit beyond simple tribalism, but have no concept of a Kingdom yet
They call themselves the Medes and speak a strange gibberish we cannot possibly hope to translate any time soon.

With these new revelations we can prepare ourselves better for any sort of Barbarian invasions.

What are we going to do next?

>>110577
Create a great wall around the borders of our civ use thw Bedouins as slave labor to get it done

>>110577
I want to expand to the sea west of Aleppo. If we can learn about making boats that could help trade with Egypt or others.

Otherwise thinking we work on warfare. We got lucky with our hippos.

>>110577
We should make use of these peaceful times to further the pursuit of knowledge. Let us build a library and task it with gathering all the worlds knowledge.

>>110685
This, We need ships and possibly explore the coasts and seek out the greeks

>>110685
Backing this too, access to the Mediterranean is going to be important Specially if we want to adopt the Phoenician alphabet down the line

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>>110685
I agree, a Mediterranean port would do us much good.

>>111034
>adopting a west semitic script
disgusting

>>110882
I also back this if we can, something like the IRL Library of Ashurbanipal would be pretty fuckin neato.

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We try to expand further west, to the coast, but the Hittite Empire managed to largely stop our Advancements.
However we DID manage to take some of their land, as a testament to that, we built 2 new cities at the Mediterranean coast.
One as an overgrown fisherman's village, to increase our food supply (here in Blue) and an enormous Fortress-City with a Harbor (purple) , strategically positioned at a river nonetheless!

This isn't our first conflict with the Hittites, but so far we haven't made any attempts to actively take land from them, it has always been the other way round.
They might retaliate for it one day.

We improve our Ship-building technology, as so far we've only ever built Boats that are able to navigate the Euphrates and Tigris, but none that could ever sail the Sea.
Crafty businessmen have hired a lot of engineers to design them a large type of Boat, one that would be able to Navigate the Mediterranean.
After a few years, they deliver.

Our people have begun sailing the Mediterranean, drastically increasing our trade with -and economic dependency on- Egypt.
We have also discovered new peoples to the west.
We have made contact with the Minoans and Mycenaeans.
The Minoans seem to be quite advanced technologically, arguably further than even ourselves and Egypt, especially in the field of ship-building.

We opened up trade with the Minoans and Mycenaeans. Things are going pretty well.

This massive increase in exchange has sparked interest among our people, to learn about our neighbors.
The Enki decided to heed the call of our people and issued the construction of an enormous Library in Thumim.
The construction work takes almost a decade, but the result is marvelous.
Shortly thereafter, a mission was issued to collect -and if necessary translate- as many scriptures as humanly possible and bring them to the Great Library of Thumim, be they works of history, art or science, it did not matter, any and all knowledge was to go here, to mark the Triumph of our Civilization over barbarism and as a Monument to our Enlightenment!

So, what will our glorious people do next?
And while we're at it, could you remind me what our new cities were called again? I seem to have forgotten.

Oh yeah btw there is an error in the Map.
It is not supposed to say 1500 BC, but I'll give you the current date once I update it with new city names.

>>111343
The port city is named Tutenkaia after our first king and we will build a fort next to it to protect our access to the sea.

>>111360
a fortress to protect a fortress?
You must be either Chinese or Donald Trump

>>111365
Twins fortresses with a wall between them the Mediterranean is essential after all.

>>111377
well those dubs speak for themselves I guess.
you were so close to double trips too.

>>111343
See if we can learn new shipbuilding techniques from the Minoans to build bigger and sturdier boats.

>>111416
Seconded. If they are more advanced than us then we need to learn from them.

>>111451
If they are wary of sharing, we can promote cooperation by working with them to make better navigation systems.

>>111484
classical and even modern civilizations tend to be wary of sharing.
And so far we only managed to get any sort of Cooperation out of Egypt, when we cheesed them into joining their Expedition to Ethiopia aka Punt and that one time we fought the Hittites together.

>>111343
I wonder if we have any good mines. I want to work on our metallurgy. If we haven't that is.

>>111679
well I'm no good with toppography, but I think we have some mountains up north in our core-land
I would have to check

also could anyone here find me a map of the mediterranean, including the mideast and iran, that doesn't do the pixel thing when trying to paint shit in?

That would be great, cuz ya know, we will expand out of the map area eventually and as mentioned earlier in the thread, I really suck at finding these things and even worse when it comes to editing.

>>111679
Aye. That might be more successful than dealing with other empires.

STRIKE THE EARTH!

>>111679
Only problem here is, internalizing could allow our neighbors to gear up attacks against us. Rapid expansion and border fortification is our best bet.

>>111863
Well consider this : I have a butt-load of invasions up my sleeve that we will run into, because historical conquerors lay claim to at least part of our land.
And unless we take out the countries these conquerors come from. Even if they have no reasonable motivation for it anymore - Like say Alexander wanting to take out Persia, because reasons - I would simply change it to him wanting to Invade us if Persia isn't around.

I'm also thinking that we might actually get some of the great people of history , of the people we conquer.

Say for instance we conquer Mongolia, taking out the possibility of the Mongol invasion of happening.
Genghis Khan would still happen, he's just going to kill our King, put himself there and then do his invasion thing.

TL;DR: Rapid expansion is only going to mess with historical events, because I will let them happen anyway.

So don't expand TOO much, please, not this early in history.

>>111863
I was hoping to get better tools and weapons with newer metals. I see no reason we can't build the borders and mine.

Granted I lack a good understanding of this time period. I'm just a bit worried if we lack upgrades for the next assault on us. Then there's communication problems from our size. Working on roadways or other forms of transportation will be good, I think.

>>111941
It's good you mention transportation.
See, there is a thing going on that I didn't bring up, because IRL it happened naturally for all Mesopotamian civilizations.

We are pretty good with irrigation, with enough time , manpower and especially money, we could build some amazing shit related to water.
Like , say , an artificial river / channel between Euphrates and Tigris , going straight through our capital.
Or water-roads.
However I do have to mention that doing that at this point , would make them kinda shitty , because we lack a fundamental understanding of geometry.

>>111961
Well we are step up well to have good researchers. After all we made people go to school for 1-5 years. Then there's all that knowledge we stock in the big library.

>>112014
Yes, however I would like to post-pone doing any large-scale projects, until the Bronze Age is over.

We have several huge events coming up that mark the end of Bronze age.

I don't know if you're familiar with them, I'll just list them in order of personal importance to me.

The Rise of Persia
The Sea Peoples
Arrival of the Arameans and Israelites
The Hittites discovering Iron
Pharao Achnaton

>>112046
That's fair and I can see the need for pacing. We got lucky that our civ hasn't become like Egypt with civil wars breaking out. We just had the 4 guys fighting for control.

Unfortunately I'm not familiar with them.

Dam, if the Hittites retaliate after finding iron we will be in a pickle for sure.

>>112083
Maybe we should use strawpoll or something to make decisions easier

>>112083

Well I'm not even sure if that has any historical basis I just read something like that on wikipedia and also the decisions of you guys are the reason we're still this big.

If you didn't go for the War-Hippo custom vote, then the head-on attack of the Hittites would have killed us earlier and caused the Empire to fall apart, reducing us to a bit less than our core-land.

Another part where we dodged the bullet was after we conquered Neo-Sumeria and decided to go for indoctrination. If we had done something brutal , we would have had to deal with Babylon and Assyria breaking loose and starting their Empires.

>>112103
Tbh that only works for fixed options I occasionally give you.
Open ones like the current decision don't really work with straw polls.

>>112103
I assume for if we want to work on boats, expansion or mining? I think trading is our bread and butter. We should work on boats to give us more partners. Egypt is the only main one we have, I think.

>>112110
Ah, my bad. Yeah those moments could of really hurt us. It's a good thing we are kind.

>>112127
A better trading network and more frequent interactions with other civs would be the best way to go. You're right.

Well guys, I leave the decision on what to do next
as well as name suggestions for our 2 new cities, up to you.
I'll leave for the night in about 20 mins and I doubt we'll reach consensus before I go to sleep.

>>112127
We need those boats, preferably Minoan boats.

>>112184

Also, with those boats, lets expand our empire to that weird island in the sea.

[RIP in peace Cyprus]

>>111941
If we do stop expanding, we need fortified borders. I'm not about to sacrifice this nation to the Greeks. Besides, the sooner the walks are up, the more time we have to strengthen them.

>>112554
*walls

I just realized how much we're like the Mongols:

One animal is our food, economy, and main strategy of warfare.

>>112643
Only difference is we take time to stabilize the empire.

Hey guys, would anyone here want to be a bro and start this exact thread again since the delay in updates is pretty large?


I'm not complaining at all, as OP is hosting the coolest quest I've ever seen, but it would be nice to have something to pass the time with.

Perhaps we could choose from New World locations...

>>113207
Thing is guys, updates are related to your response speed and unity.
So I'm waiting hours for you to get to a conclusion

>>113599

Lol, no problem man, just say so next time.

Seems like the majority is inventing boats and taking Cyprus.

>>113599
Boats, trade and walls I believe are the focus. I would say walls mainly to the north.

Fort named Enki and the town Enlil are my votes.

We want our boats to turn into mighty ships.

>>113599
boats

>>103162
How about the birth of an entire universe? >>114001

OP?

We've decided.

>>106356
Where irl did we spawn by the Isuwu?

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Ok guys sorry it took so long, but life ain't easy.

Due to constant and increasing exposure to Egypt, our peoples have become sort of familiar with one another.
Some people even have adopted their deities to some extend, but it's nothing dramatic, our Pantheon of Gods allows for such a thing.

Meanwhile we have tried to learn the secret behind these gigantic warships called Triremes that the Minoans are building, but to no avail.
We tried convincing the Minoans to teach us, but like everyone else, they are wary of us and refuse any such arrangements.
Then we tried hiring pirates to steal one of their ships and hand them over to us.
Most of these low-lives failed to achieve anything at all, and the few who did manage to capture a ship then refused to give them to us.
There was one exception where that tactic actually worked out, but our engineers just couldn't make sense of the Ship.
They used methods far beyond our scope of reference, it's almost as though they're using magic.

It took us years to make sense of this vessel.
We didn't know what to make of it, until a scholar from Thumim taught the engineers about Geometry.
We've heard of this science called "mathematics" before, but to the common people, and even the Enki himself, it's just number gibberish, but this Scholar of Mathematics, told us of mathematics even affects shapes and how each shape has individual properties.
The Engineers of Tuntankaia were intrigued by it.
With the help of Mathematicians, they finally managed to make sense of the Minoan Triremes and we managed to build our own.

The Minoans learned of this development however and are not happy about it.
We sent diplomats over to them to ease the tensions, but they killed them and sent their heads back to us.

This is an out-rage, a declaration of war almost, but we cannot afford to fight the Minoans.

A wise man once said "Discretion is the better part of Valor"

>Will we fight the Minoans and risk our Port? (1)

>Will we break trade with them and remain peaceful? (2)

>Will we do nothing and retain this act of aggression as a Casus Belli for another war? (3)

You decide, 1 2 or 3?

>>116258
(3)

We aren't prepared to war with them across the sea, as our armies are week and our navy is primitive compared to theirs.

>>116258
(3)
also ask them where pelops is

>>116299
Pelops is already dead.
Argos is fortress-city of the Mycenaeans at this point.

>>116326
do we know where that is or do we have to explore?

>>116338
We don't know where Greece is, but we do know where Crete is, because of all these pirates we hired.
Also surprisingly, we know where Ethiopia is, might not sound like a big deal to you, but historically Ethiopia is a pretty big deal.

Well it's nice we reached consensus this fast for once.

We decided to just do nothing, and reserve this for another time.
The Minoans figured that they are superior due to our inaction and see no need to bother themselves with trying to invade a land-based Empire, which is convenient for us.

Our economy, society and population are at an all-time peak.

However our economy came to suffer a little when we lost trade-connections with the Minoans. We aren't sure what happened to them, but rumor has it that it was either a Volcano, or worse, the Mycenaeans.

It's the closing days of the year 1421 BC
We haven't heard of the Minoans in decades, we assume their Empire is either forsaken or occupied.
Either way, we have been building and perfecting Triremes for the past 50 years.
We have a Navy to rival that of Egypt and even the late Minoans.

This is the perfect opportunity to invade Crete and find out about whatever happened to the Minoans.

>Will we use our Casus Belli to invade Crete?

>Will we just go there and look around peacefully?

>Will we continue to stay out of this and just drop our Casus Belli all-together?

1,2 or 3 folks.

>>116440
(1)

(1)

>>116440
(1)

>>116440
Voting (1)
Also, do we have a symbol or flag for our civ?

The Enki has decided to take drastic action to find out what is going on.
Not willing to take any chances with the Minoans he assembles the entire Annunakiminite Navy and a large part of the Army and sets sail for Crete - Homeland of the Minoans.

The journey took about 2 weeks
It is the year 1420 BC as we land on the eastern coast of Crete.

We find destroyed cities and burnt decaying corpses, but also signs of battle.
There is a suspicion going around that those rumors we heard about the demise of the Minoans seem to be true.
Not only was there an apparent Volcano eruption, as evident by the Rubble and and burn victims, but they were also subject to an invasion, presumably the Mycenaeans.
Something seems off though.
These signs of battle are still fresh, whoever they were fighting is still there.

The Enki splits his forces into 3 groups and orders to take as much land as they possibly can, whoever it is that is invading the Minoans , must be defeated and brought to Justice, for it is his and only his divine right, to possess their land.

Our forces storm across the island, we captured a fair amount of it, until we reached Knossos - capital of the Minoans - there we witnessed the Minoans fighting a last-stand against the Mycenaeans.
We could let neither side go unpunished, but the Mycenaeans had priority, so we joined the ranks of the Minoans and overwhelmed the enemy.

The Mycenaeans are retreating and our Hippo-Riders are giving chase to them, annexing the very ground they step on as they advance.

By Orders of the Enki, we were no longer allowed to harm any Minoans, we don't know what he's planning, but many of us a sneaking suspicion of what's going to happen next.

What will the Enki - King of Kings - do next?

>Will he approach the Minoans as conqueror?

>Will he approach the Minoans as businessman?

>Will he approach the Minoans as savior?

>>116952
We do not.

We have a color associated with us, which is Red.
Other than that we have no symbols going on.

>>116988
Approach as a conqueror, but gently so. More as a liberation force so that maybe they can be integrated with us.

>>116988
As a savior, let them be grateful rather than rebellious.
>>117008
Then we need to make the Hippo both our national animal and our banner.

>>117011
That would be #3

To avoid confusion lemme quickly explain.

We own their land , there is no way around it, it's a fact.

However , the Minoans are still around , even though they're nearly dead.
What we can do now is be conquerors, shit fury all over them and kill them off for good.
We can be businessmen, make them a client state with some form of autonomy for a regular tribute.
Or We can be their saviors, occupy them temporarily to help them rebuild, hoping we'll get a favor or 2 out of them later.

>>117030
I see now. #3 it is then.

>>116988
We approach as a conqueror

>>117030

I'm kind of leaning towards 3 as well.

The Enki has made his decision, he's on his way to talk to the Minoans.

The Minoans are frightened, what could the man who is mightier than the Mycenaeans, possibly want more at this point? He owns their land, everything they know and love is his to possess now.

The Enki, leaves his guards behind and demands to see the King, but there is none.
The King of the Minoans deceased, and his sons all died in battle.
The Enki wishes to see their graves.
No one wants to show him, for only the Gods know what unholy things a man such as himself would do to it.
An old man however, who has seen many wars in his life, thinks of our King differently than the others, when he looks into his face, he sees not a man of destruction , but prosperity.
He shows our King the grave of their King, and the Enki kneels down in front of it to pay his respects, to the honorable man, who tried to protect his people's legacy.

The Enki returns to the Minoans, he makes it clear, that despite their aggressions of the past, he would forgive them.
He offers them peace, in times of war.
He offers them sanctuary where there is none.
And he gives them Hope, in times of despair.

He would let the Minoans elect a new King from among their ranks, and he would rule over Crete again.
However, we remain on the Island regardless.
We are not their masters, but one could easily get that impression when they see us running their Kingdom, despite it being sovereign.

We put a great deal of money and effort into rebuilding Crete.
Creating schools , libraries, farms and houses.
It is a massive project and it will take years before we can leave Crete.

The Minoans meanwhile have grown fond of us.
They have adopted our writing system and many loan words and they were quite intrigued by our code of law.
Whatever little knowledge that they still head that we didn't, is now ours as well.
The Minoans, though independent, can no longer imagine a life without us after 40 years of friendly-occupation.
All those who remember the days before we came are already dead, and those who were born into this world, have essentially become members of our society.

The "Independent" Minoan Kingdom is nothing but a formality at this point.

It is the year 1380 BC

The Minoans, for all intends and purposes, are now Annunakiminites.
And although they are officially free, they will never be truly free of us again, we're just simply waiting for the day, where even the delusional Minoan nobility realises that their land and people have become ours, and drop the facade of independence.

We are now in a relatively stable age of peace.
There is not a lot to do, but changes are ahead.

What are we going to do in the meantime?

Bonus vote :

Who is this magnificent Man who managed to vassallize the Minoans, what is his name?

I'm not entirely sure what we should be doing on the home front but this seems like a good time to send out scouts/emissaries/trade caravans to unexplored areas in hopes of meeting new people and possibly establishing new trade routes.

The more we know about the world around us the better.

Also we should start working with Ethiopia since we know of them. OP has already mentioned that they are relevant at this point in time.

>>117184
Sculptouron the Kind
>>117175
Erecta a monument near the graves to honour the dead and to remember their sacrifice. Focus on mathematics, we know not what secrets we could discover.

>>117225
Actually Ethiopia is not relevant yet, they will gain significance around the first few years AD though, because of Christianity.

>>117250

Still may not be a bad idea to get on their good sides now, since we kind of know whats going to happen and all.

We can forget that if its too meta and just focus on the exploring other areas that we dont know in hopes to meet new civs.

>>117228
I'll back the name and the monument.

I kinda what to push from meeting more people. More trading to improve growth and put more research into trade goods.

>>117184
Cassius the Honourable

>>117175
Adopt the Hippo as our national animal, and let all who see our banner witness it's might.
>>117228
Seconding.

>>117175
Ask the minoans where the mycenaeans came from, scout for their docks and their cities

>>117225
Backing this also

Also maybe create a trade post in Gibraltar or Sicilly to gain new ressources

So, no one else who feel we should get a proper banner then?

OP said earlier when it was asked what flag we have that we have no symbols associated with us. I think we should change that.

>>117411

I'm sure that could be added to this turn.

With our empire growing we need flags/banner

We erect a statue of our Glorious King Sculptouron ,depicted as a gentle man with a scruffy beard who gently strokes the head of a Hippo with his right - and the head of a Child with his left hand , in Knossos to commemorate the fallen of the Mycenaean-invasion War, as well as our late King, who passed away not too long ago.

We also gained knowledge from Minoan libraries, that the Mycenaeans come from a land to the west known as Hellas.

In the Meantime we sent out more scouts to find this land of Hellas, they have yet to return.
But we also opened up trade with Punt, now that the Egyptians no longer seem to care about it.

Speaking of Egypt, there is something strange going on there.
It seems their current Pharaoh has completely overthrown all known traditions and customs and began worshiping a single God.

It is the year 1347 BC and Pharaoh Akhenaton has declared that Aton - the Sun - is the only God there is.
The Enki doesn't care, but the people living in proximity to Egypt seem to love this Idea.

Should we throw off our old faith?
After all, the Sun IS a powerful deity, usually holding a high place of importance, even among ourselves and barbarians.

>Will we jump onto Ahkenatens hype wagon and become Atenists?

>Will we do nothing in the field of religion as we have for the past 2000 years?

>Will we try to avoid this new faith and contain it in Egypt?

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Via popular demand, our people have designed a banner for the Empire.

The Enki seems to like it, question is, do the people?
This banner will become the visible manifestation of our culture and way of life, should it get to pass.

>>117454

Not bad

>>117442
Let's adopt it. By getting rid of pantheons, we could consolidate our holy men to one god, therefore making it easier to convert people.

>>117462
We should not do so and instead use the Roman method of conversion; by having many gods, chances are similarities exist between heathen and our own gods. This allows us to imply they are one and the same and slowly convert them to our beliefs.

>>117442
we do nothing in the field of religion as we have for the past 2000 years

I'm not sure about accepting the Egyptians religion.

Maybe we should make our own to rivals theirs and begins spreading it around the world

>>117486
I agree. In addition, people also get to worship the gods they want to, instead of just one. Different people want different things, and it would make people happier with specialized gods.

>>117486
We could. However, as displayed by Rome under Constantine, having a symbol to anthropomorphize and put on flags or banners helps frighten and demoralize pagans.

>>117494

You know, I won't give away anything on what could possibly happen for either option.

I'm just advising you guys to read up on Atenism, and then the Crusades immediately after.

If you're the conspiracy theorist type, this suggestion alone will give you an idea on possible events.

>>117486
Plus, when the Egyptians revert back, we can holy war them to return to Atonism
It's a free Casus belli.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atenism

Whatever happened to Akkad and it's successor states the Assyrians and Babylonians?

>>117508
>...suggest that Akhenaten was obsessed with his new religion, and that his neglect of matters of state was causing disorder across the massive Egyptian empire. The governors and kings of subject domains wrote to beg for gold, and also complained of being snubbed and cheated.

We could use this to our advantage...
Is reading about what's going on in this time period metagaming?

>>117540
Kinda, but I don't mind, because they'll only give you insight on what's going on during "fixed events" such as this.

>>117539
Akkad's first successor state was Neo-Sumeria and we immediately conquered them after they invaded us, completely wiping out Assyria and Babylon from the annals of history.

I'm really enjoying this quest by the way

>>117577
Thanks, I'm doing my best to make it enjoyable.
I honestly liked the idea of the guy in the Kingdom thread of basically playing Civ with a DM of sorts.

>>117577
Me too.

>>117592
Doing great OP. These types of quests are the most enjoyable.

>>117442
Let us keep our gods. One god will never be stronger than all the other gods.
>>117454
Perfect.

>>117669
As I have mentioned, an anthropomorphic deity is more effective in combat, and it will give us a casus belli on the Egyptians upon Akenhaten's death.

>>117684

Do we want to take over Egypt?

>>117694
Well taking over Egypt does have enormous benefits.

Egypt is a powerhouse in Gold , Copper and more importantly , Food production.

Egypt was the bread basket of the Middle-east and Roman Empire for almost 5000 years.

Downside is that we'll have to deal with Nubian and Libyan barbarians, in addition to the Bedouins we're already dealing with.
They're no problem per-se, but it still makes our Empire more prone to downfall, should a heavy impact event occur, and they will.

>>117684
Still going to suggest sticking with a pantheon. It will make it easier to integrate others into our culture as they can take their old gods with them. And we don't have to worry as much of those "my god is better than your god" conflicts.

>>117694
We could subjugate or annex them. Egypt is a rich land, and their infrastructure is not to be ignored. Hell, maybe we could try to build the Suez before half the world knows it exists.

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>>117755
>triple dubs

WITNESSED

>>117755
It is sufferance, but not total absorption.

>>117694
Let's build a stable empire that can stand the test of time rather than overexert ourselves by taking all of Egypt.

>>117833
You know, nobody is forcing you to take Egypt, it's merely a possibility and giving you guys lots of options to chose from, is the main aim of the game.

>>117833
Let's also have a culture that's going to survive Rome we are going to be in their territory after all

>>117442
>>Will we do nothing in the field of religion as we have for the past 2000 years?
We be us with our group of gods. Hippos for life!