fucking make him stop

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>>1574848
fucking make him stop

>>1574859
what if I don't want to?

>>1574860
then he will

lmao he got banned

>>1574886
LOOOOOLL

americans...

>>1574892
I wish they didn't ban him, he was taking a huge shit all over the weeb botters face ahaha

>>1574958
same, but don't worry, they make enough people mad with their antics that I'm sure another one will take his place shortly.

>>1574856
>dDD get
nice

erm... was this thread meant to defend the botfag?

>Canadians

>>1575005
Not OP but if I'm interpreting him correctly I think he was complaining about the leaf doing that on /bant/.

>>1575012
ah okay, thanks

I don't think the weebs want this thread on page 1...

just woke up, can someone fill me in?

>>1575025
not sure I have all the details so have a bump

>>1575021
how can you tell?

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>a fucking leaf

>>1575064
At least you finally see how absurd it is to call him a butthurt spic.

>>1575064
does posting anime and defending botfags go hand in hand?

>>1575068
No.

the guy's fucking steaming right now lmao

>>1575080
Go away.

>>1575056
I think it's because threads like >>1435377 are being bumped by a bot who then deletes it's comment

maybe the mods should look into it...

>>1575108
>maybe the mods should look into it

The last guy that went around talking about things he wasn't supposed to talk about got banned, maybe you should be careful what you wish for...

>>1575118
I'm sorry anon but if this weeb has a small enough penis to use a bumpbot then I think it's time we cut it off instead of sucking it

>>1575122
this

I wonder if the bot will start up if I bump this thread

did you guys know?

I think we can all agree botting shouldn't be ignored, mods please take note

would /qa/ benefit from a weeb bot spotter general? (asking for a friend)

>>1575689
Try not to use a frog in your OP post so the mod doesn't think it's spam this time.

It's ironic that spinoff weebs managed to convince some mod here that the frogposters were raiders but it's the funny/sad truth.

>>1575695
range ban wouldn't put a stop to it?

>>1575695
Because frogposters are raiders.

>>1575730
ermm... theres a guy using a literal bot to slide /qa/ and you are worried about the weekly frog thread?

>>1575731
What sliding?

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>>1575731
frog posting should be an automatic ban. since trump gave amnesty /pol/ should be deleted as well. you tired of winning yet?

>>1575733
lurk more, replies "lol" "rofl" and random 3 character spam are bots posting and then deleting their replies but the bump remains

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>>1575733
The daily shitposts that slide everything related to /qa/ off the board

>>1575746
Are you telling me that your threads, that are mostly pepe shit is better than anime (the foundation of the fucking site)?

>>1575730
4chan is the home of frogposting

Why don't you guys ask the mods to do something? Could it be because they already know about it and don't find it a problem, and instead ban you and your shitty threads, forcing you to ban evade?
Stay fuming.

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>>1575749
Shitposting with anime =/= anime. The anime is on >>>/a/ and related boards. Are you seriously trying to say the 15 frog threads come anywhere close to this level of spam?

>>1575753
It's like you think this is /q/, lol

>>1575749
I am the guy you replies to
I dont make frog threads, this board should be nothing but anons asking eachother questions (some shitposting is fine but spam is not)
I could give a fuck about anime, furries, frogs, andy or trevor or whatever the fuck

weebs need a bot to keep thier shit here
everyone likes this. oard is slow as fuck but it's actually not, the weeb bot just makes it look like the first thread in catalog was last replied to 17 hours ago because it deletes itself

ban this tiny bot faggot and lets have /qa/ be an actual board

>>1575761
There is more than one weeb using a bot.

>>1575761
tl;dr, your new is showing. "Opinion" discarded.

>>1575761
*thinks this board is slow

>>1575754
15 frogs thread made by /pol/ is worse than anime threads.
Ge tthe fuck out of here.

>>1575763
please defend the botfag more you weeb, downvote me all you like kek

>>1575771
>kek
Begone reddit

>>1575769
the /qa/ catalog is a vast sea of anime shitposts that is strategically bumped by a small number of weebs in a discord using bots

go ahead, go have a look

>>1575769
Oh so we're back to "Every frogposter is the same person" again. Did you ever stop to think that there might be more than 5? and that they might not all be from /pol/?

That's like if I blamed every weeb here for the actions of the 2 or 3 faggots who change their IP to make 20+ threads every day

>>1575774
Now you're just being silly.

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>>1575775
Where in my post did I say that it was the same person?
Oh and don't hit me with that "You implied it" shit you dunce.

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>>1575776
No he's not, he's exactly right, and it happens every day. It's happening right now.

started watching cowboy bebop yesterday. Really enjoying it so far.

>>1575778
When you said "made by /pol/" you were implying they were all made by the same /pol/kid. You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

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>>1575780
You're in the wrong. Anyone that thinks the frog threads are better should be hanged.
>>1575784
What the fuck did I tell you about saying "You implied it" you goddamn dunce?

>>1575786
Congrats, Anon, you're becoming an adult

>>1575787
Go away Andy. Go DDoS reddit in the name of your waifu or something.

why are people bitching about a frog thread when 98% of the catalog is shitposts being bumped by the weeb bot?

I quite enjoyed the Nintendo direct yesterday. I'm particularly excited for xenoblade chronicles 2

>>1575790
That's what the weebs here do. They think the shit they smear on the walls doesn't stink while complaining about a rat turd on the floor

>>1575005

It was made by that very same peaf himself... as well as alot of the anons here.

Seriously one of the easiest and most pathetic samefags here.

>>1575789
No, fuck you.
I want redditors like him to goddamn leave. They are cancerous and what they want is cancer.
>>1575790
Because frog threads are reddit tier.

>>1575795
Oh look it's Mr. >>999998 himself. Fancy seeing you here. (not really you're here every day)

I'm thinking about buying a pop'n music arcade machine, although I'm not sure where I would keep it

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>>1575800
The insecure weebs are the obsessive spammers,, Anon. They're the ones with all the scripts.

>>1575796
and so what does that make weebs who bot then? they are the literal scum of /qa/

>>1575802
A lesser of two evils.
>>1575801
>I would rather have 20 horsefucker threads
Hi /mlpol/!

>>1575805
>If you're not a weeb spammer then you must be a horsefucker!
You're the only one who brought up horsefuckers, Anon.

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>>1575807
So you're a horsefucker?
Get out!

>>1575798

Is that all?

>>1575806
no that's what >>1575779 is. You should go to that thread if you want roleplaying

>>1575805
or maybe you're on discord with them and this is just your poor attempt at damage control?

bot still going in the catalog btw, where are the frog threads it's fighting against?

>>1575810
What, you want me to call you the Godfather of the Weeb Mafia again?

>>1575812
Thanks for linking my thread. Now answer my question.

>>1575814
The only discord servers I'm in are for GURPS.
>>1575813
>edgy black hair faggot posting
Stop that, worst shipping.

>>1575819
Go roleplay somewhere else, kid. Adults are talking here while children spam in the background.

>>1575820
holy shit you dodged that question like a bullet!

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>>1575825

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>>1575823
Damn, how do I become an adult like you?

>>1575689
bumping this don't mind me

>>1575836
You know what you have to do.

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>>1575844
>gross
That's adorable.

>>1575841
By being a dumb fuck like you?

>>1575851
if I'm a dumb fuck then you're a lobotomized troglodyte comparatively.

weeb bot absolutely raping the discussion from the catalog

not a frog thread in sight

tell me again how frog posters are the greater of two evils again?

>>1575865
Because some of them might be from /pol/!
*gasp* *clutches pearls*

lol I wonder if the guy from /bant/ who originally posted this thread even knows what happened to it./

>posting my waifu
Please stop

>>1575860
Nice one.

weeb bot absolutely raping the discussion from the catalog

not a frog thread in sight

tell me again how frog posters are the greater of two evils again?

>>1575952
Rather have weeb than you.

>>1575955
I wouldn't

>>1575956
Then fuck off

>>1575955
no one cares because everyone knows you're a /discordweeb/

wish junkofag would stop impersonating me

>>1575957
And you wonder why people hate you.

>>1575958
I'm not.

weeb bot absolutely raping the discussion from the catalog

not a frog thread in sight

tell me again how anime posters are the lesser of two evils?

anyone care to tell me what they think of the bot that replies to old threads and deletes it's replies and how it affects the board?

>>1576079
i like it

So now what?

>>1576079
That one is the least of the bad bots in use

^discord?

>>1576109
Shoo shoo

is it scary to use the bot under this much presure? that's why the replies change to "cute" "true" "thanks" ?

>>1576177
>presure
LOL!

>>1576177
still a relevant observation...

>>1576177
>presure
you idiot

>>1576218
>>1576219
absolutely butt devastated

bot absolutely blown the h*ck off
how will (((((he))))))) recover

>>1576226
cry on discord most likely (the weeb controlling the bot NOT the bot itself, lol that would be dumb)

good ol' fashioned forest bump!

based

>deleting all that

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>>1574962
You mean more rulebreakers to drive out of this site? That would be delightful. Why are you pukes even here still when your existance on 4chan violates the rules? Even if you somehow "won" this autistic meme war you would never be allowed on 4chan long-term.

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>>1576361
I've been here since 2006. How about you?

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>>1576365
Also 2006. This board is fine entertainment.

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>>1576368
agreed

Dumbass mod defending a flame war thread. If you don't understand what /qa/ is like don't mod it.

>>1576379
anon... you're defending botspamming again...

>>1576382
Roleplaying goes in the trash.

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>>1576379
Shut up faggot. This is /qa/ and it has absolutely NO RULES. NOT EVEN FOR OUR BASED M0DS.

Thank you, BASED MOD, for deleting this little avatarfaggot CUNT who needs to BANNED and sent back to VOAT

>>1576387
Oh shit who let the big dawgs in here

>>1576379
>WAAAAAH WHY WON'T THE MODS LET ME USE SCRIPTS TO BACKSEAT MOD WAAAAAAAAAH

>>1576387
Fuck off redditor

tldr a leaf from /bant/ annihilated the weeb mafia and got their bots b&

>>1575832
¥Narb
Did the OL general make a discord?

>>1576405
https://discord.gg/A7uHBay
/erp/ monsterhunter.
My /erp/ server
4chan's /erp/ server
Pathfinder server for a campagin.
GURPS server for campagins
Don't know about the last one

>>1576404
>bots b&
All of them?

>>1576404
I'm not banned.

>>1576404
>>1576415
not sure, guess we'll have to wait until someone triggers a weeb to find out

This kid is in for a very rude awakening...

>>1576424
Which kid?

>>1576426
He thinks every post he doesn't agree with is from one person changing phones.

>>1576404
Maybe next time they want to bump threads they should figure out a way to contribute to the thread while bumping it.

>>1576433
How about we talk about removing redditors like you?

>>1576435
weeb mafia is seething and im over here lol'ing hahaha

wait, how come I didn't post a frog? they'll have nothing to complain about!

>>1576443
Stop roleplaying.

>>1576435
What are you even on about? How is disliking worthless spam reddit?

>>1576447
You are obsessed with thinking people are playing roles when they aren't. It's not just a buzzword you can throw around. Roleplaying means something that isn't here right now.

>>1576452
How is not going back on reddit your style?

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>>1576455
You are.
>Weeb mafia this
>Frogposter that
It's all in your head.
Get help.

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Weeb mafia, this action cannot be tolerated. We must destroy the based antispambros, for we are the last bastion of free anime on 4chan. The cirnos must be praised and loved ~_~

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>>1576460
Who do you think you are kidding?

>>1576457
Hi there, you seem to be upset /qa/ is saying no to botspam!
you don't happen to be a botspammer do you?

>>1576457
I've never even used reddit because I dislike name based forums.

>>1576461
>~_~
Fuck off larper.
>>1576463
I'm not kidding.
Frog shitters like you, who come from reddit are trying to ruin 4chan.

>>1576468
roleplaying now are we? =^D

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>>1576468
They've already ruined 4chan. This is just a tiny refuge that is occasionally raided. This is truly the last place on 4chan where we can have serious discussions about anime, manga, and Japanese culture. As a weeb mafia member, I will always do my best to keep it that way.

>>1576468
4chan is the home of frogposting whether you like it or not. I didn't make it that way and I couldn't change it if I tried. I think it's funny that you are apparently one of the sheltered ones who think it's still 2004 and that everybody on the site loves Tenshi eating a corn dog. I hate to break it to you but 90% of 4chan has no idea what a Tenshi is and thinks wouldn't know Junko from a garbage can.

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>>1576475
Fuck off roleplayer.
>>1576478
>4chan is the home of frogposting
And that's a good thing? So you support redditors who want to ruin the fucking culture? Get your goddamn head out of your ass.

>>1576475
>*uses multiple bots to spam board multiple times a day*

holy fuck, when the mods publicly ban you this is going to be insaaaaane

>>1576480
>redditors
I don't think you fully appreciate how /a/ and /jp/ are populated by /r/animemes

>>1576481
You're retarded

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Hello I'm from Reddit

This guy is so new it hurts.
I'm looking forward to seeing him DESPAIR.

>>1576485
>capitalizing reddit
Fuck off redditor

>>1576484
seething

>>1576488
Who's new?

>>1576496
>>>/asp/

>>1575754
That guy was sliding frog spam off the board, so yes, exactly that level of spam.

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>>1576488
>DESPAIR
Not on my watch!

>>1576501
frog threads were nowhere in sight all of today and yet the board was being bumped by multiple bots?
they were banned like 1 hour ago and yet the discord weebs won't quit dumping anime.

hmm...

>>1576501
>it's not spam when I'm doing it
You people really need to get over yourselves.

>>1576507
Shoo shoo hope poster

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>>1576513
No

>>1576510
It's almost as if the board has no rules and the mods lean towards anime because that's what the site was founded on

HMMM...

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Sigh....................................

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>>1576516
God doesn't appreciate you trying to start arguments with people.

>>1576516
so you use bots to bump your contentless threads and when innocent anons wander over to this board they have no idea wtf is going on because the bot is so malisious it deletes it's replies...

go take over >>>/trash/

>>1576521
Facts can't be argued if they're facts.

>>1576516
It's almost like you lack information so you fill in the blanks with what you wish was true.

>>1576522
I don't use bots.
How fucking new are you?
>>1576525
Fact, 4chan was founded on anime.

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Fighting is dumb

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I wish we could all just get along

>>1576522
It makes a person wonder why they would try to take over a board where crossboarders come to whine about meta problems in the first place. They will never get rid of the crossboarders here.

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>>1576488

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War brings death and no gain for anyone other than the rich

>>1576527
fact, there's plenty of anime boards you can fuck off to, try seeing if anyone will defend your spam there

>>1576527
4chan has changed much since its founding. It's funny how the front page mentions specifically how this site is for a variety of interests besides just anime.

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So why are we pushed to fight each other?

>>1576535
Fact, this is an anime board because there is no topic and has led to an influx of anime posters here.
Fact, to deny that 4chan is an anime site marks you as a newfig.

>>1576531
it's almost like /discordweebmafia/ are retarded...

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Perhaps we're strained for resources?

>>1576538
Spamming is "fighting". Everyone else is just talking here, albeit sometimes blatantly violating GR13 in doing so.

>>1576541
There is no weeb mafia.

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Perhaps there's no mutual ground?

>>1576539
>has led to an influx of anime
BECAUSE YOU BOT

>>1576545
...and every frogposter is one person. yeah yeah, you can stop with the false narrative now. Many people have been complaining about the spinoff weebs for months now.

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Yet even then maybe we can all find a compromise.

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>>1576547
*I* bot?
I don't though. I just post like anyon else. I don't even own a bot to do so, hell I don't know how to bot.

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Mutual arrogance brings about ones destruction.

>>1576549
Never said that.

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So lets not be tempted by the words of the devil

>>1576554
Same shit different hole

classic teenbros. give them a little bit to work with and they'll do the entire job for you
another lost soul claimed by the /qa/bal...

>>1576557
What?

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And maybe a frog and an anime can see eye to eye.

>>1574848
Pretty sure the only reason the bot exists is just to prevent /qa/ from turning into tryhardsville
I don't think it really has anything to do with weebs, he's just using that material because the owner of the bot is a weeb I guess.

I've made plenty of non weeb threads with 3D images that still get bumped by the bot.

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And let us dance

>>1576562
>implying there is only one bot

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With the moon directly behind us.

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>>1576543
>albeit sometimes blatantly violating GR13 in doing so.
Who could you possibly be talking about?

>>1576562
then why are the weebs in the cirno thread next to this spamming sooooo hard?

they don't want anyone to have discussion or call them out on their botfagging

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And let the dove fly free as we go into the future.

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Or I'm going to stick you in a burlap sack mother fucker.

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>>1576567
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I

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And throw you into the bottom of the lake.

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I don't come on /qa/ very much anymore

Can someone explain why a fag with a bot is spamming anime pictures

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Where you will probably down and die.

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And you will painfully drown.

>>1576568
It's literally posting crino, that's the thread topic.

>>1576572
I can sense you are seething, I wonder why that is?

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>>1576577
Aggressive people need to be able to control their nerves.

>>1576578
-of botspamming anime, sorry but /qa/ says no.

>>1576573
It's a really, really long story, beyond tl;dr. All I know is that if Hiro made a peoper nijiura board on 4chan then /qa/ would likely get a lot better.

>>1576580
Fuck off

>>1576581
you are really gay

>>1576581
I don't know what those words you posted mean.

Can someone explain what's going on here? The last time I was on /qa/ was about a month ago and everyone was complaining about Barneyfag.

>>1576589
there are 4-5 weebs here who are on a discord together and use multiple bots to bump old threads, the bot then deletes it's reply making it seem as though /qa/ is an extremely slow board

today some of their bots were banned and they are very upset

>>1576589
Shit happened, Barneyfag got pushed out.

based

>>1576593
Oh, ok. That makes a lot more sense. Thanks!

Are they just bumping the anime shitposts, or is it just every thread past a certain page?

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>>1576604
I'll tell you how the system works. We manually bump threads that we like when they get to a certain page and then delete the posts.
This guy thinks it's a bot conspiracy because one guy uses a bot to do it.

t's as simple as that. Necroing threads

>>1576608
>We manually bump threads that we like when they get to a certain page and then delete the posts.

That sounds like shitposting.

>>1576608
wrong you botfag, you're too scared to use the random 3 character bot right, or maybe it got banned

either way you're definitely the mercy main of the discord ;)

>>1576619
>;)
Go away

last time the "plan" turned out to be spamming /qa/ with anti-/pol/ threads and then creating threads on /pol/ linking them, but no one took the bait...
this time it's spamming /bant/ and /qa/ with bot talk and uhhh... getting banned a bunch of times for it. >>1571975
being a master manipulator discordbro subverting boards is hard work...

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>>1576618
In what sense? I see it as expressing your desire to keep a thread in existence for other individuals to see it.

>>1576619
I've been wondering for a while... What's your mental illness? Because you're obviously quite fucked in the head.

>>1576623
erm... were you not here for the 3 bots at once action in response to this thread?

COINCIDENTALLY it was in tandem to anime spam

mods = gods

>>1576624
>In what sense?
The mods are deleting the posts.

>>1576628
You're actually retarded.

posting in thread

>>1576632
go seethe in your discord

>>1576628
None of those posts were from bots.

>>1576631
Users are deleting the posts by using an """""""exploit""""""" in the way 4chan remembers which posts are yours.

>>1576636
What discord

>>1576637
If the mods are banning IPs, that means the posts that are causing the bans are shitposts.

>>1576637
>>1572590
lol bot
rofl bot
3- character bot

they were all documented in this thread you fucking damage control weeaboo

stop replying to these freaks
let them samefag all they want

>>1576650
You say that every time you are proven wrong

>>1576650
That's the right idea. Shitposting is shitposting, and these sociopaths can't say anything that would make them right. Talking to them results in circular reasoning.

weebs are spamming the cirno thread with meaningless copypasta which they then delete...

there was another poster itt claiming posters in the cirno thread were only posting cirno...

diiiisssssccccooorrrrrddddd

>>1576645
Sweet summer child... you have no idea how broken 4chan is.

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>>1576656
For fuck's sake, I just came back to /qa/ to beg for more features on a different board and now I can't make a thread that will last an hour because anime autists are being faggots?

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>>1576662
Think about that for a second.... This guy is saying bots are literally everywhere. Rampant and uncontrollable spamming... and this is all happening in the place you go to give suggestions to the mods and Hiro?

>>1576662
The post above yours is the answer to the post below yours. 4chan is broken, and a group of mentally disturbed people take advantage of that for attention.

>>1576662
they're afraid to use their more obvious bots because there is a thread calling out their bullshit on page 1 so you might be safe

>>1576666
I don't care about bots or anime faggots and I don't know what you're trying to say. I just want to be able to use this board.

>>1576672
Yeah I got that. Thanks anon.

>>1576662
Pretty much yeah, it's been that way all year when the horsefuckers or the /pol/kids weren't doing the same thing.

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Thank god I don't work in customer service. Good luck. I'm out.

>>1576676
those guys never botted

>>1576679
What do you think GR15 was railing against in >>999998? He was right that the horsefucker plague was insufferable back then. That's what the whole "The problem is they won't leave" meme has been about ever since.

>>1576681
never botted :( I don't think they needed to

the weebs on the other hand constantly spam, they also try and act like they're liked around here even though they USE a fucking bot... like what the fuck there should be a thread about that here everday, but that doesn't happen... guess why? because they slide the board

>>1576686
Get out newfag.

>>1576686
All I'm saying is that there was a time when everybody gave up on /qa/ because the horsefuckers made it even more unbearable than it is now. It was the weebs who filled the vacuum left when mods brought the board back and nobody remembered /qa/. They became entrenched and they aren't going to give that up easily.

You claim you want to get rid of the "weebs" but what are you even replacing it with? The first two threads made are one attacking anime posters and another asking why someone gets banned for posting an image associated with ban evasion?

>>1576703
a board should be a board :) not what some weebs on a discord what it to be by spambotting their anime.

>>1576713
Please make threads that do not try to start an E-War with the mods and everything will be nice and fun. It's needless to say that otaku posters are not leaving /qa/.

>>1576715
All that can be asked is for otaku posters not change IP addresses constantly in order to spam 40 threads about inane topics every day which slide the meta content off the board while rigging the catalog with a bump bot script and spamming catgirls and gibberish in every thread that isn't otaku related.

I wonder how often the spammers get banned? I wonder what percentage of them evades bans?

>>1576722
you can't make me be quite without your bot to spambump your threads

>>1576718
You can not look down on the quality of otaku threads without acknowledging that the majority of frog threads are low quality.

If you don't like the quality of thread then hide it. As for the "40 threads from one IP" I make a few of those. Fine I'll stop for a while and see how things look. I don't feel as if I need to do that so much any more anyways. I have alternative strategies at this point.

>>1576730
*quiet

>>1576731
>You can not look down on the quality of otaku threads without acknowledging that the majority of frog threads are low quality.
That would be a valid point if there were ever more than 25 frog threads at a time. However there are constantly at least 50-100 total shitpost threads made by otaku posters because they are under the cultivated impression that this is the 4chan 2D/Random board when it isn't. Even now there are. There have been threads going back months monitoring the depths of the weeb shitposting on this board.

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>>1576730
Yes I can, nerd.

>>1576731
>he can't shut up about frogs when theres no frog threads
>he defends botspamming yet again

anon... I...

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>>1576736
Go back on reddit asshole.

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Why do you keep talking with these people

>>1576736
>>when theres no frog threads
>he actually stopped posting frog threads, waited these threads to die JUST to make THIS VERY POST sound """reasonable"""
I can even...

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>>1576741

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>>1576742
We're killing the thread.
>>1576744
Mukuro...

reddit

>>1576749
Is bad.

does this thread scare the bots away? will I have to make another one tmrw?

>>1576754
It originally got the person complaining about bump bots in every thread banned, so I have no idea what the effect of creating a new one will have.

>>1576754
English?

>>1576758
the bump bot guy also got banned just so you know,, or at least one of them did.

>>1576767
That's why I said originally, as I know that this thread lead to the one spammer being banned. However I don't know if it also lead to the bump-bot being banned, or if the mods just got tired of it.

>/qa/ weebs are pretending they have never seen the bots on /qa/

hahahahahha holy shit

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>>1576783

>>1576783
you saw through their ruse, they are scrambling in discord right now

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>>1576813
Oh shit

The very existence of this thread triggers them. Otherwise they wouldn't care about it.

the weeb mafia is done for, bros. i look forward to a bright new future for #qa now that we have been freed from their shackles. tomorrow will be a new day with no bots, mark my words

reminder that /qa/ says no to botspamming!

>>1576880
This isn't a botted though. You can do this on vanilla 4chan.

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pfft, you think regular users can upload images? I'd like to see you try.

>>1576891
dumb pass poster

lol bump

It's still spamming. And the rules don't allow that.

>the animeposter is downvoting a thread pointing out botfagging

what else is new?

>>1576919
They think avatar fagging, shitposting, and spamming will really prove they are innocent of board manipulation. "I broke several rules so that makes my team right!"