Thoughts on yuri?

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it's very gay

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Yuri who is Yuri?

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It's the only thing that makes my heart go dokidoki anymore

It's right.

I have a friend who loves it. I think it's ok but that's about it.

Suck my cock dude

Me right
/qa/ left

>>1397503

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But girls can't love girls! That's forbidden love!

>>1397503
I wish I was one of the girls.

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Just be friends.

>>1398797
you cant be friend with shiburin she's a mean ugly bitch

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>>1398800

>>1398800
Shut the fuck up.

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I dont want to make another thread, last time I tried an anon got really angry.
Anyways
>pic
Who is it? Where is it from? You anime people must guide me

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Do im@s fags just watch the anime or are the games required too? I want to try and get into it because I like some of the music I've heard.

>>1398815
That's Ilya from Fate, but the screenshot specifically is from Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya which is her own spinoff.

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>>1397503
I never have, and never will understand the appeal of yuri. I understand the having two girls instead of one aspect, but why have them make pathetic attempts at fucking? If you just want two girls together, you can get that without involving gayness. So, what's the point?

In yaoi, there's at least the aspect of seeing a guy take a dick. A guy play with a dick. I can understand why someone with shit taste might like that. But with yuri, there's nothing happening, really. The most they can do is kiss, rub and finger/fist, and all of that can be achieved with men. If you dislike shit looking man, then just go with feminine boys. At least he can do SOMETHING. But yuri, it's entirely pointless. For every perspective.

I never have, and I never will understand the appeal.

>>1398817
>The most they can do is kiss, rub and finger/fist
For some people that is sufficient.

>>1398817
To me the appeal is escapism because I want to be the girl. Yuri is just the go to for it.

>>1398820
That's an aspect I didn't consider. That makes sense. People want to be girls, but also like girls, so they imagine themselves as faggot girls. When I said I didn't understand the appeal, that was from a guy's perspective. I can easily imagine a girl liking yuri if she's a faggot. And if someone wants to be a girl and a faggot, it's understandable why they like yuri.

Thanks for that, anon. Cleared some things up.

>>1398817
Feminine boys aren't the same as girls, I'm sorry the memes lied to you.

>>1398817
There's more to yuri than fucking pornography and sexual arosual you fucking mong. Do you only watch hentai or something?

Girls loving girls is simply cute.

>>1398838
>there's more to watching girls fuck than watching girls fuck

You do realize that this is, first and foremost, a sexual thing, right? Girls loving other girls, in other words, wanting to and doing lewd things with other girls is the main appeal of yuri. Without that, there's no yuri.

>>1398845
>Girls loving other girls, in other words, wanting to and doing lewd things with other girls is the main appeal of yuri. Without that, there's no yuri.
A lot of yuri ends with a kiss. Sometimes it's just romance.

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A big guy for mankind

>>1398845
The very vast amount of anime with romantic elements doesn't feature penetrative sex nor does it even imply it, meaning all things mentioned in >>1398817 are entirely moot in non-hentai anime.

>>1398877
That's EXACTLY what the anon said, though. He said it was pointless. If not for sex, there being two girls instead of a girl and a guy is entirely meaningless. There's literally no meaning to it. It makes exactly zero difference what are the sexes of the people involved if not for sex.

Now, it might bring up some enjoyable character conflict of seeing someone struggle with their sexuality, but I doubt that's the appeal of yuri. No one gives a fuck about that. But as far as the relationship itself is concerned, if you remove sex, there's no point in it being yuri? It's cute seeing girls together? Well, guys in anime can be just as cute. Like Griffith, much more fugable than Casca. According to you, you don't care about seeing them have sex, so what's between their legs shouldn't matter. You only care about the looks, and looks mean nothing in anime as far as sex is considered.

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>You will never have sex

>>1398884
Seems to me like you have a problem with romantic anime in general, because your arguments are otherwise completely retarded.

> If not for sex, there being two girls instead of a girl and a guy is entirely meaningless

There is no sex in the majority of romantic anime , your whole premise doesn't make any sense. The enjoyment, in the most general terms, is derived from the taboo and unexpectedness of the same sex relationship, and the situation that arises from a relationship where both parties lack assertiveness because they're girls, as well as the relationship being perceived as "pure" by the watcher.

>There's literally no meaning to it. It makes exactly zero difference what are the sexes of the people involved if not for sex.

Just what? Yeah, sure, you could have a feminine submissive boy and have him be voiced by a female VA but that would be a trap, not a girl, so completely different appeal factor although you could argue that it's ostensibly similar.

>>1398884
>If not for sex, there being two girls instead of a girl and a guy is entirely meaningless.
Except, of course, for the part where girls are girls and boys are boys, and not the same, even when they are wearing clothes.

>>1398816
>Ilya fate

Thank u alot anon

>>1398905
>Seems to me like you have a problem with romantic anime in general
No, I don't. I don't even have a problem with yuri romance. I just find it pointless. There's a difference.

>There is no sex in the majority of romantic anime , your whole premise doesn't make any sense.
Exactly.
If there's no sex, the sex of those involved doesn't matter. The genitalia they have doesn't matter. The gender only plays a role if they want to fuck, if they don't, them being girls only or a girl and a guy is meaningless. It makes no real difference.

>taboo
Come on anon. It's been normalized to death now. There's no real taboo there. At this point, it's the same as taboo as a rich girl choosing her own partner instead of marrying where her parents want her to. Actually, that might be more taboo than this at this point.

>unexpectedness of the same sex relationship
Uh, sure. That makes sense. I don't think anyone who posted those first few images gave a fuck about that, like the majority doesn't, but yeah, that's a good enough reason.

>the situation that arises from a relationship where both parties lack assertiveness because they're girls, as well as the relationship being perceived as "pure" by the watcher
Both of those are and can be present in ANY relationship. This isn't a yuri exclusive trait.

>completely different appeal factor
Exactly what? Remember, you can't mention their dicks and balls. Because those only matter for sex, and that is apparently not even relevant.

>>1397503
I want to BE Shiburin

>>1398918
Boys are girls are not the same even with their clothes on, because they culturally and biologically differ in ways other than their genitalia.

>>1398918
>If there's no sex, the sex of those involved doesn't matter. The genitalia they have doesn't matter.

It does, because from a persons genitalia stems his gender and social status in the vast majority of cases.

>Come on anon. It's been normalized to death now.

Stop trying to apply real world shit to anime tropes.

>Both of those are and can be present in ANY relationship. This isn't a yuri exclusive trait.

Sometimes it overlaps, still doesn't mean that it's not an archetypical yuri theme.

>Exactly what?

Come the fuck on. Usually a trap character has something that implies that he's a trap character throughout the series and that's either his idiosyncrasies or the way other characters treat him. It's completely different . I don't really see why you're being so obtuse about the whole matter, your whole argument could be condensed to "well basically every female character could be replaced with a male one that has the exactly same behavioural patterns and the appearance of girls ergo yuri is pointless."

>>1398936
>It does, because from a persons genitalia stems his gender and social status in the vast majority of cases.
Oh yeah, a male will be a MALE! And his social status will be that of a MALE student. That's makes a huge difference that isn't just the clothes they wear.

>Stop trying to apply real world shit to anime tropes.
In anime, it has been normalized even fucking further. Fujoshi is a fucking character trait at this point. And not even an unpopular one.

>Sometimes it overlaps, still doesn't mean that it's not an archetypical yuri theme.
No, it's a romance theme in general. It's not even that common in yuri in my experience. Out of the few yuri visual novels I have read, mainly the SonoHana series, there is usually an assertive girl. Like any other relationship. Even in the hentai I've watched. The SonoHana anime adaption and Shoujo Sect, the two most popular examples, include an assertive girl. Even in normal anime, there's Kuro like assertive girl in most.

>Come the fuck on. Usually a trap character has
No, I'm asking exactly what difference does it make if there's a male in the relationship, rather than a female. Not about this trap in particular.
And even that is a rhetorical question. As far as anime is concerned, there is no difference. You're going to get the same, cutesy romance shit you get from GL.

>"well basically every female character could be replaced with a male one that has the exactly same behavioural patterns and the appearance of girls ergo yuri is pointless"
Yes, that is exactly my argument here. Thanks for summing it up. The only thing that can't be replaced is the clothes the girls wear, and if you just want to see girls wearing girly clothes together, you don't need them to be in a relationship.

>>1398947
>No, I'm asking exactly what difference does it make if there's a male in the relationship, rather than a female. Not about this trap in particular.
And even that is a rhetorical question. As far as anime is concerned, there is no difference. You're going to get the same, cutesy romance shit you get from GL.

One of them is a girl and the other one is a boy. It's really that fucking simple, guys serve as bland self inserts anyway most of the cases with most of the focus being on the girl.

>n anime, it has been normalized even fucking further.

I'm talking about expectations of the characters itself, a girl might expect a boy to fall for her but personally the whole dynamic just feels rather different when her best girlfriend does.

>Yes, that is exactly my argument here. Thanks for summing it up. The only thing that can't be replaced is the clothes the girls wear, and if you just want to see girls wearing girly clothes together, you don't need them to be in a relationship.

A work doesn't have to even involve proper romantic relationships to be considered yuri, i.e. YuruYuri, but sure keep on trying to convince me how the dynamic of the show would be exactly the same if there were boys involved.

>>1398959
Okay, so no argument on the first part. I'm glad we got that done.

>a girl might expect a boy to fall for her
Have you ever watched ANY anime? That, quite literally, never happens. The few times it does, it's treated as a joke and the boy doesn't actually fall for her. Like with Teruhashi being the most recent example.
Even when the girl is treated as an hyper competent, God-tier beauty with having the perfect personality, like Rias, she doesn't expect the boy to fall for her.

To quote you, "Stop trying to apply real world shit to anime tropes."

>>1398959
>A work doesn't have to even involve proper romantic relationships to be considered yuri, i.e. YuruYuri, but sure keep on trying to convince me how the dynamic of the show would be exactly the same if there were boys involved.
Then it's not yuri, for fucks sake. That's just cute girls doing cute things together. The only yuri parts it does have, like Chinatsu's crush on Yui and Kyoko's obsession with Chinatsu and Mirakurun would work the same if Kyouko or Yui were males. Chinatsu pretty much already sees Yui as a boy, and Kyouko's obsession with Magical Girls is a primarily male trait. Even the Tsundereism of Ayano can work just fine with a male.

So, while you can't replace cute girls doing cute things part, because that requires girls, the romantic aspects can easily be replaced.

>>1398936
>>1398959
Stop spacing after every single quote. Your posts are a fucking eyesore.

>>1398959
>It's really that fucking simple, guys serve as bland self inserts anyway most of the cases with most of the focus being on the girl.
Try something that isn't a harem comedy with an everyman lead.

The vast majority of anime, period, would be affected if you flipped the genders around directly because in general male characters act tend to act like and female characters tend to act like females. Nothing stops you from writing boys who act like girls and girls who act like boys but pretending that it's going to be the same rather than a deviation from the norm is plainly idiotic. Gender matters.

>>1398968
Boys are icky and gross and you're wrong.

The purest form of love.

>>1398817
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>>1398936
>>1398947
>>1398959
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>>1398983
these people have unironically spent hours (HOURS) typing blogposts about japanese gay porn

>>1399243
At least they're making memories with their fellow /qa/ers.

post girls please

>>1399243
and you're the pathetic one depending on them for emotional support. Go get that girlfriend you always wanted already.

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>>1397503
Why is it that both men and women, either straight or gay all love Yuri, but only women like Yaoi?

>>1399925
What about traps?

>>1399925
i like yaoi

>>1397503
He was pretty cool for a Russian

>>1399925
Because yaoi is what happens when you let a woman write romance

Traps aren't in the yaoi category...

>>1400078
They might as well be. They're becoming the new yandere.

>>1397503

>>1400316
?

>>1399925
Because gay guys like bara instead.

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>>1399590

>>1399925
You're looking in the wrong places then.

>>1397503

post girls

>>1401734
Me on the right

>>1398816
>Do im@s fags just watch the anime or are the games required too?
The games are required to be an ``im@s fag'', both anime are aimed at people who are familiar with the characters and is are unremarkable on their own. I hope you've been 勉強ing your 日本語.

>>1402938
You hope he's been forcing his nipponese?

>>1397503
Not a fan, personally. Don't hate it either.

I'm not a fan unless they both have penises, but I don't think it's called yuri at that point.

Purest form of love.

Not gonna lie, former yuri fan here. This is fucking hilarious watching yuri crash and burn. But in all seriousness, we can't let girls love girls.

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Thinking about someone...

>>1404755
8/10 you're pretty good

>>1398817
i like seeing girls fuck and im more interested in reading about a girl/girl romance than a straight one.

you can get off without a dick or without penetration. stop just watching porn. why do you think you need one for women to get off during sex, and why would you ever think that a feminine man is the same as a girl

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>>1405159

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>>1405224

>>1398817
Yuri is great because you get to indulge in the degeneracy of being a faggot without having to deal with cocks.

yuri is a cuck fetish

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Turning the rating up to q,
just for you.

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>>1405928

>>1405584
sure, /d/icklicker, sure

>>1398845
>You do realize that this is, first and foremost, a sexual thing, right?
Sex is a minor and optional part of yuri. Even romantic relationships are optional.

>>1406889
>Sex is a minor and optional part of yuri. Even romantic relationships are optional.
Then what isn't? Just curious.

>>1398845
Romance =/= Porn/smut

>>1407032
Subtext and shipping. I'm not that anon by the way.

>>1397503

post girls in this thread...

>>1412516
this

>>1412516
this desu senpai

>>1414000

>>1411626
me on the left

>>1416091
You are doing great! Keep it up.

post more girls

>>1417372
Seconding