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Just saw Richard Spencer on Gavin's show. He's made

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Just saw Richard Spencer on Gavin's show. He's made out to be some nutty anti-semite but i found him to be surprisingly articulate. Is he, dare I say it, our guy?

Also who /proudboy/ here
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>>91758487
>no link

Back to rebbit with you, filthy kike
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>>91758487

Richard is Jack Donovans towel boy.
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>>91758487
>Is he, dare I say it, our guy?
Everyone who talks this way needs to be shot and killed.

saged
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>>91758617
It's a subscription based website. Either pay up to compoundmedia or find a torrent.
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>>91758487

>proudboy

I like McInnis but this is gayer than Richard Simmons singing a duet with Elton John in a Bath House while being fucked by Guatemalan pool boys
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>>91758650
it's a meme you dip
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>>91758650
>saged
Do you think saged is a word? Do you honestly think sage is a verb, and that saged is the past tense form?
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#ProudBoy reporting in

actually im not since I haven't done any initiation
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>>91758487
Spencer is a Russian shill, married to a Russian who works for Dugin.

Look up Nina Kouprianova (alternative name Nina Byzantina)

He has personal reasons for doing what he does, more people suck Putins cock, more he and his wife get paid.
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>>91758487
link you faggot
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>>91759844
>muh putin shills
balts are even worse than hohols desu
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>>91759397
>Do you honestly think sage is a verb, and that saged is the past tense form?
Yes. All nouns can be verbed. Deal with it, punk.
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>>91758487
Can you skip no wanks if you're in a long distance relationship?
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>>91760312
go verb yourself... you verbing noun-noun
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>>91760356
I think the rule is you can beat off if she's skyping you
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>>91759844
>Latvia
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>>91758487
>made out to be some nutty anti-semite
Spencer avoids the JQ and has spoken positively of Zionism in the past. He's a good goy gate keeper.
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>>91758487
Listen to the radix po podcast

I can't wait to see Gavins gay little boys club go full 1488 and he has no choice but to go that way
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>>91759844
what a fucking cuck
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>>91760536
sweet
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fuck Spencer
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>>91760433
You will speak proper American, junior
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>>91758487
>proud goy
Nah, right stuff is where it is
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>>91760433
go walk yourself you pissing man dog
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i like richard desu, he's articulate and well-read and doesn't try to act like an edgelord like the TRS guys
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POST LINK YOU KIKE FUCK WHAT THE HELL
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>>91758487
Everyone seems articulate next to mr. sticks-mic-up-butt
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>>91761101
stfu richard is manfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zlOdZGAWoY
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spencer really needs to lose like 20lbs
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>>91758487
Stop trying to coopt the alt-right, it's annoying.

Alt-right website
theightstuff.biz
thedailystormer
radixjournal
fashthenation
thealthernativehypothesis
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>>91758619
>>91760792
>>91761101
This
I'm suspicious of Spencer since he snubbed Heimbach in favor of a bubonic butt-blaster.
And now he is silent about a Milo although he promised to 'destroy' him.
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>>91761847
heimbach is a fat autist who has more enemies than fans
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>>91761845
shut up nigger

big tentism is the way, idgaf about twitter nazis
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SOMEONE POST LINK
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>>91762024
big tentism fails the movement.
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>>91762024
big tentism is well and good until the movement becomes coopted by people like the /proudboy/ crowd who just want to make the whole thing about classical liberalism and free speech or whatever.

>I love western civilization! We allow GAY PRIDE PARADES because we LOVE free speech!

that accomplishes nothing. if that is your message, you have zero ground to gain in this country because all of the real causes of our problems (minorities, immigration, jews) are allowed to continue shitting the place up
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>>91763100
no it doesnt

all the alt-light fegets are 1 meme away from going full blown red pill

TRS could easily have memed Milo into implicit white nationalism but they wanted to flex their nazism too bad
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>>91758487
>/proudboy/

That's a funny way to spell shill. Proudboy is an attempt by Jewish interests to subvert the Alt-Right's supporters into harmless political activity. The real issues of White identity, racial replacement, and reality itself are being subordinated below empty cries of culturalism and civic nationalism.
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>>91762024
If you let arsonists in the tent it's too big.
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>>91758487
Gavin McAnus is literally controlled opposition.

Spencer is a bit meh but he presents himself well and breaks the normie illusion of "le ebil skinhead nazis". Hes alright for now.
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>>91765386
Eh, I think this is a miscalculation

Milo wood have opened the floodgates for red pilling of normies, this is why Spencer is also pro Milo
If you look at what him and his gang put out on twitter, they're 100% in steplock with the biggest nahtzees there are. Milo just knows he can't go out and drop the big bombs, he is an opportunist at the end of the day

Same goes for proud boy, they even link to alt-right writers constantly
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>>91758487
Do you pay for Gavin's gay-ass show? Or do you like it when he shows his asshole to Coppercab?
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>>91764343
Alt-''lite'' will cause a split that divides and conquers that movement.
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>>91758487
Couple of dorks. One kissed a cock sucking faggot. They can both eat shit of Milos dick. Spencer is almost as bad as Stewart. Nerds.
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>>91765791
>Milo wood have opened the floodgates for red pilling of normies, this is why Spencer is also pro Milo
>If you look at what him and his gang put out on twitter, they're 100% in steplock with the biggest nahtzees there are. Milo just knows he can't go out and drop the big bombs, he is an opportunist at the end of the day

I fundamentally disagree. Milo is a liar and a criminal, so even if he had the right opinions he would still be a wretch.

Milo lies about the true meaning of the Alt-Right, which he defines as just radical cultural libertarian internet trolls. The Alt-Right has few hard dogmas, but they fundamentally reject racial and gender equality. To call those things which are plainly separate to be equal is an affront to the truth.

It also truly recognizes what Kevin MacDonald realized about Jews, that they are a subversive force that organizes against majorities. It seeks to diminish Jewish influence in the west.

Worse than lying about these things is the fact that he is a thief. He opened a scholarship fund for Whites only. He embezzled all of the money and the manager quit when she realized Milo had no intention of paying out. He was also possibly behind a scam Super Pac on Reddit. Taking money on a false premise from good natured people is low and wretched.

Richard Spencer is in denial about this situation. He fails to recognize the harm Milo does when he lies about us. Milo's dishonest friendship is worse than any SJW foe we could face. The edgy Twitterati that Milo attracts are ideologically uncommitted and too cucked to truly commit to our goals.
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>>91766177
You get it. Alt-Lite is edginess masquerading as truth. Trolling is a tactic, not an end to itself.
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TRS or die no one else has a clue
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>>91760312
>>91760433
>>91761156
>>91761256

Sure is reddit in here.
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>>91766886
look goy, I don't like milo, but he's drawing attention to White Nationalists

no such thing as bad publicity right?
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>>91766886
yeah idk, I still think most people that get over that first bump of rejecting SJWism have already entered the rabbit hole and are on the way so as long as that's increasing we get more

but who knows, I'm not a big milo fan obviously
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I heard from several people that Richard Spencer is just some nutty anti-semite.

I would base that on them saying that he belives in conspiracy theories involving race and religion (fucking kook alert!) and that he has particular distaste for the Jewish people. I avoided him after that, and will continue to, as anyone normal and mentally balanced would.
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Great fashy haircut!
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>>91767662
Dishonest publicity is bad. If someone hates our cause, but prints the honest truth that's infinitely preferable to what Milo does. Also Milo is a scammer.

>>91767705
There are plenty of anti-SJW voices outside of the Alt Right. We don't need his "help". Hell even Quadroon of Mossad is better than Milo. It hurt to type that last sentence.
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>>91767922
>conspiracy theories involving race

Get back to rebbit
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>gavin "build a table" mciness
>gavin "art is for losers" mciness
>gavin "i literally got kicked out of my own shitty site" mciness
>gavin "i show my asshole to strangers on a whim" mciness
>gavin "i used to laugh at 9 year olds playing with toys" mciness
>gavin "suck and fuck that fag milo" mciness
>gavin "games are for kids i build useless shit" mciness
>gavin "i never knew belts were invented, when did that happen" mciness

Why are people even bothering with this retarded fag?
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>>91758487
> Richard Spencer


He said being a faggot was implicitly white. He's a fag lover. DROPED
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>>91768343

>gavin "let's shove a buttplug up our asses to fight ISIS" mciness
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>>91759397
first day on 4chan huh
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>>91768394
>being a faggot was implicitly white
>because blacks don't have a higher rate of homosex
>down-low phenomenon
why does he open his mouth and say such hipsterish shit? Does he lack self-awareness?
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>>91768263
>Dishonest publicity is bad. If someone hates our cause, but prints the honest truth that's infinitely preferable to what Milo does. Also Milo is a scammer.
no such thing as bad publicity

anyway, what ya gonna do aboud id?
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>>91768536
He did that too?

>gavin "the only right-wing hipster" mciness
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ONE OF US ONE OF USE
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>>91767922
That's a misrepresentation of Richard Spencer. He's not anti-Semitic, but he is a White Nationalist. He is not against a Jewish state, but he believes they aren't White.

Beside the issue of their Levantine origins Jews are a subversive force against the majorities of any goy country. Kevin MacDonald explained this pretty well in the Culture of Critique, but I'll give you a simple example.

120 years ago the Jews were the largest minority in England. In the event that the English decided to expel or attack Jews the boundaries of that conflict would be clear. In response to this implicit danger Jews in England supported mass immigration. Where before there were only English and Jews there are now English, Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, West Indians, Africans, Polish, Romanians, and Jews. This inhibits the ability of the majority to organize.

Diversity also reduces quality of life. For example the more diverse your neighborhood is the more racist your neighborhood will be. See the Putnam studies.Ergo Jews are bad news.

http://www.amren.com/news/2011/10/diversity_destr_2/
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>>91759397
>Do you honestly think sage is a verb
それを下げました。

saged again, faggot

>>>/r/asianmasculinity
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>>91768394
actually the whole "homosexuality = implicit white identity" meme came from a tweet where he's saying exact opposite, but taken out of context looks like he's saying something gay. if you don't believe me, go check yourself

Richard Spencer might speak like a postmodern literary professor sometimes, and his attempts at making big intellectual points in 140 characters on Twitter can get him in trouble, but he's the fucking man

everyone should listen to his podcast at Radix

ETHNOSTATE NOW!!!
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>>91758487
>watches Gavin Mcinnes
>has never heard Spencer talk before
>Calls himself a proud boy
Found the c.uck
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>>91768912

>Him with the trannys he's about to fuck

No, he isn't one of us at all.
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>>91769069
Also this.

Anyone still buying into the meme is a shill desperate to attack Spencer's character.
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>>91768973
good post
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Where can I find a torrent of this? There's nothing on TPB after 9/12 for this retard's show
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>>91768833
There is bad publicity. If people believe they are Alt Right when they are just anti-SJW they don't take the necessary steps to find the truth. It inhibits victory by shifting the goalposts.

>anyway, what ya gonna do aboud id?
Counter the lies with truth. I tell anyone who asks about Milo, both on /pol/ and IRL, the truth about him and the Alt Right. Any ideology built or sustained on lies is doomed to collapse.
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>>91769069

Fuck off TRS shill. I've already read your faggot defending bullshit on hotwheelschan
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>>91769212

TRS shill kys.
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>>91758487
This Proud Boys thing is terrible. It was funny when it was just something the callers said, but to make it an actual club of people that worship Gavin is just so cringe inducing.
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Greg Johnson > Richard Spencer
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>>91769340
butthurt autistic faggot detected

go back to cripplechan, TRS is making gains where you never possibly could
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>>91769340
I don't browse TRS, kike.
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>>91769348
"Proud Boy"?? I don't into Gavin at all, can someone redpill me on this gay sounding thing?
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>>91769451
>>91769476

yeah, sure you dont.
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richard is a fucking faggot, just like gavin, but we punch to the left, not the right

"Zero tolerance for violence."
"Honorable and ethical behavior in relations with other signatory groups. This includes not denouncing others who have signed this protocol. In other words, no enemies on the right."
"Maintaining a high tone in our arguments and public presentations."
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>>91769640
oh hey, how did you get an invite to their forums?
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>>91769069
I'd preserve the shit out of that! if you know what I mean

(sex)

(in the missionary position purely for the purposes of procreation(

>>91769267
>believe they are Alt Right
I dislike the term

why so eager to jump in the box?

I'm just a White Nationalist, anti-gay, anti-Jew, mostly libtardian w/nationalism, anti-liberal hitler admirer

I'm undecide about milo being more useful or not. he might pull people in, but he might pull them away from WN, and he is a lying kike

what can be done about him though? at least he does tell people he's not part of the alt-right
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>>91758487
>our guy?
Surprised it's taken this long to discover Spencer. There hasn't been much discussion of him except for his shitty alt-right logo.

For me, either he's certainly in the running for "our guy" but you can't overlook Vox Day, even with his 1/7 mexiblood which is prolly white Hispanix anyhoo.
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>>91769742

this german cuck got that screenshot from cripplechan, he's not actually on the forums. if you want an invite, just send them an email
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>>91769451
>>91769476

The TRS faggot defender is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a cocksucking shill and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out."
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>>91770046
>just send them an email
Would you be kind enough to tell me what their email is?
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>>91769889
anyone who is not pro-white is the enemy
milo is therefore an enemy, tear him down
alt-right is a distraction
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>>91761847

Heimbach is LARPing attention whore fagget. At this point it wouldn't be a surprise if the SPLC was giving him good goy points for all the drama he instigates.
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>>91770046

"Homosexuality and the Alt-Right"

https://archive.is/2fW80

Great TRS writing.
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>>91766886
I think Milo is a useful tool. He is a liar and criminal yes. But above anything else he's an opportunist.

He should be used to redpill naive white people, and should be dropped the second he stops helping us out.
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>>91758985

It's supposed to be gay. It's based on the Aladdin song "Proud of Your Boy"
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>>91770126
[email protected]

>>91770105
yeah that thread exists, who gives a shit. I've been on 4chan pol way before I ever knew of TRS. quit being such a butthurt fag, no one's listening to you sperg out anyway
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>>91770105
Get an avatar, faggot.
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>>91770126

TRS deleted everything that mentioned Christianity or Faggots being degenerate. Even threatened to deleted everything bu Seventh(mywifes)sun's show on their shit.

TRS is a pathetic, childish organization I wouldn't give your email too. Their shit "was leaked" not so long ago as well. So have fun with that.
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>>91769601
Proud of your boy is the gayest song ever written. Gavin pointed this out, and callers would sometimes sing a verse or two for keks. Eventually he took this meme too far and made The Proud Boys, a Gavin-centric cult of his beta-orbiters that follow Gavin's vision. There are actual meetings and tattoos, it's just awful.
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>>91770262

They TRS cucks have been on a shilling spree. They got caught and had to run with their tails between their legs like the little kosher bitches they are.
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>>91770262
>In order to counter the general culture of tolerance for homosexuality (which triggers this acute paranoia about being perceived as “effeminate”), we have to create a strong taboo against all forms of effeminacy and degeneracy in the alt-right. Mocking and ridicule must be accompanied by a total shunning of anyone homosexual, advocating homosexuality or even tolerance for homosexuality.

you didn't even read it lol

I'm ignoring you from now on
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>>91769267
It's not dishonest. Milo titles a YouTube video with the words "alt right." Right-leaning white guys see white nationalist videos on the side of the screen. Click, listen, agree, done. That's why we use the term alt right. I think white nationalist is a more accurate term, but it doesn't matter. After we clickbait them, we can be honest about what we believe, but before anything else, they have to click the video.
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>>91770227
I'm trying to play doubles advocate

but how do we tear him down, exactly?
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>>91758487
>on Gavin's show

Gross don't watch that faggot cuck

>some nutty anti-semite

There is literally nothing wrong with anti semtism it is a natural rational reaction to jewish depravity and subversion

>surprisingly articulate

Spencer is actually quite redpilled he is a pro White and an anti semite he just keeps a more 'refined" sophisticated intellectual profile.

>our guy?

No he is a faggot/faggot lover pic related
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>>91770275
>should be dropped the second he stops helping us out.

A FUCKING LEAF.
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>>91770254
I like heimbach though.

But his left wing economics makes me sad.
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>>91770477
I'd like to see it and judge for myself rather than take some anonymous Turkish "German's" word for it.
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>>91759844
>russian shill
even if it's true at least he isn't shilling for kykes like ProudGoy McInnis
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>>91768973

Me again!

I only got a couple lines in to where you said "the white race" and "Jews aren't white" and I could see where it was going.

You see, normal people believe Jews ARE white. Normal people believe there is only ONE race the HUMAN RACE. Is that so hard to understand? All this other stuff is just conspiracy nonsense.

Hope that helps.
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>>91770662
He's not wrong. The goal is to establish a white ethnostate. Homosexuality is a post-war debate.
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>>91770551

>"Being an anal loving faggot is implicitly white." - Dicky Spencer


Look at the comments you retard. That's where the problem lies, not the article itself.
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>>91770662
Does that make him a faggot lover? He's expressed extreme disgust for the effeminate and degenerate shit we have to put up with in our societies today, but I think he has a pretty good stance with "there will always be a tiny fraction of gay people in the world because it's biological (likely hormonal in the womb), so let's just focus on being pro-white and not get worked up that some people might be homos as long as they're not giant flaming faggots about it"
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>>91771053

> Homosexuality is a post-war debate.

This is how th GOP cucks got to where they are now. Get fucked. If you have no standards or morals, you'll be co-opted in no time.
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>>91771075
>Does that make him a faggot lover?

yes. yes it does.
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>>91771053
>>91771075

I take issue with the statement that homo is part of European culture. Men having anal sex with other men has absolutely nothing to do with culture. And if he thinks it is an inane side issue why bring it up at all?
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>>91771066
a lot of that looks like random people on disqus who aren't even TRS goys. i'm on the forum and these comments are nothing like what you see there. this article's from fucking July

you just keep making a fool out of yourself bro. put down the keyboard, it's time to stop posting
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>>91770644
just point out that he's a faggot kike who doesn't support anything we stand for
he's trying to subvert our values
he doesn't speak out in favour of europeans
he only gets a platform to speak because he's a gay jew who doesn't touch any of the REAL problems we have

this isn't a line against him, but so you understand, issues like "abortion" and "gay marriage", regardless of your view on them, are just emotional problems for people to latch onto. Same deal with SOROS funding BLM shit to cause even more racial tensions and distract us from the real problems.

Asian conutries belong to asians. African countries belong to africans. white countries belong to everyone? This is the thing they hate for you to say more than anything else. Massive influxes of non-whites are their long term solution to keeping their corruption unscathed, for two reasons. It creates endless racial tensions for them to play off and create solutions for, and non-whites don't care about corruption.
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>>91770262
I only like feminine penises
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>>91771195
>This is how the GOP cucks got to where they are now.

They got to where they are now by not advocating for a white ethnostate. They kept taking weaker and weaker positions while their voting base dwindled away.

Poopdick marriage and possible extermination will be discussed and dealt with in an ethnostate.
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>>91768039
>closely buzzed sides

Nah it's trendy macklemore-tier garbage.
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>>91771075
>so let's just focus on being pro-white and not get worked up that some people might be homos as long as they're not giant flaming faggots about it


Yes goyim. Don't get worked up about med resistant poz loads! LOVE IS LOVE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8iCylc7x2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mfbs_I-fjE

Homos just fuck little kids. Nothing wrong with that amiright dicky spencer?
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>>91758487
youre a fucking idiot.
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>>91771195
The GOP doesn't include civil war as part of their strategy. We do. Some aspects of the ethnostate are best resolved after we win the war. What's the point of outlawing sodomy if you have no nation to begin with?
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>>91771430

"Homosexuality has been part of European societies and culture for millennia. It's not going away, not something to get worked up about."

-Richard B. Spencer.
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>>91771414
Because people obsess over it (like this German faggot) and harass him about it a lot because of that stupid "implicit whiteness" tweet that still gets taken out of context to this day. Homosexuality had a place in the ancient world but in the Christian era you're right, it hasn't been a part of the culture.

I'm anti-gay but I think this is really an ancillary issue that shouldn't divide the pro-white community when we are at risk of displacement from the nigger hordes. Richard should just ignore the issue when it comes up so we don't have more drama than we already have
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>>91758487
richard spencer is a fucking faggot. He's no different than the hipsters who live in perpetual adolescents in williamsburg brooklyn off their parents' trust funds while LARPing as a starving artist. Just replace artistry with "identitarianism" and that's Spence.

He's been pushing his bullshit for fucking years. It's gotten him NOWHERE. And then suddenly we - /pol/ - start redpilling tons of normies through redpills and memes. Then Spencer, being the opportunistic parasite he is, latches his "alt right" shit on to us, as if we ever had anything to do with his "become who we are" shit.

Homos get burned on wednesdays.
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Link or gulags
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>>91770753
natsocs are socialist, that's what I don't like about them
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>>91764343
milo is a subversive kyke just like you faggot
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>>91770753
Why? What can possibly be wrong with such economics?
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>>91770477
fuck off.

they fucking hate faggots you dumb ass nigga.
they even criticized richard spencer for liking milo.

being this retarded Ali
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>>91771414
We don't execute or torture people just for having gay sex. In that sense, yes, Europeans are more accepting towards gays than other cultures. If you really care about Europeans, you have to accept that they tend to be nice, tolerant people. If you're goal is just to kill faggots, you're better off converting to Islam.
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>>91771434
>he doesn't speak out in favour of europeans
>he only gets a platform to speak because he's a gay jew who doesn't touch any of the REAL problems we have
like I was saying, I don't know how to calculate if he is doing more harm or good

I know you have your opinion(and it may well be right), to me he's just some eceleb that gets publicity for being anti-feminist

he did make one startling admission on the (((RUBEN REPOYT))) where he said "they say that (((we))) control everything, well they're right, (((we))) do!"

what so you make of that statement, have you seen it?
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>>91772295
>>91770754

>quick, I have no counter argument. I must call the German flag a Turk!

Get fucked nigger lovers. Have fun loving faggots and getting your shit co-opted.
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>>91770753

He's a child.

It's one thing to take jabs at each other and bantz, but people like Heimbach, Natt and Sinead are WN's crabs in a bucket. The divisiveness they cause (be it intentional or not) just shows they care more about their own personality cults than actually propagating the movement.

Fuck them, their purity spiraling and the knuckle dragging untermensch who enable such faggotry.
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>>91771628
wtf

trigger warning? shitload
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>>91770477
>Ryan sets up NRO
>bretty gud podcast that actually tackles ideological topics beyond "niggers = bad"
>Ryan on deployment, has a guest host
>NRO tackles the topic of faggotry
>SeventhSon freaks out because they had someone on the show that's not his friend
>NRO goys get banned
>NRO podcast gets taken down
>NRO podcast gets shoah'd from soundcloud and is now not available anywhere
>Ryan will literally come back and find that his show has been destroyed from existence just because SS sperged out and didn't like a guest they had on the show while Ryan wasn't even there

What a load of horseshit.
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>>91772590
Point me to ONE example that they love faggots ONE

you cant

>imba parody or guest writer

you cant point me to ONE because there arent any you fucking dumb retard.
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>>91772890

see

>>91772730

Now get BTFO faggot
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>>91772295
They regularly have homosexuals like Greg Johnson, Ryan Faulk, Richard Spencer, Jack Donovan, Millennial Woes and others on their show. Apparently ideology goes out the window. We'll make exceptions for these fags because they're our drinking buddies!

It's become increasingly clear that the TRS inner circle are just racist liberals. They're a bunch of SWPL hipsters who realized that the only way they'll have their perfect Williamsburg pumpkin spice latte utopia is if they get rid of the blacks.

And they're heretics who claim to praise kek, but don't use /pol/ and don't have post numbers. Therefore no doubles. Therefore no meme magick.
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>>91772550
>I know you have your opinion(and it may well be right), to me he's just some eceleb that gets publicity for being anti-feminist
No, this is true. Peas in a pod don't have to conspire. Milo isn't saying because he's part of some conspiracy against white sovereignty. Most of the "personalities" who promote the things we're speaking about are just opportunists too, like Gavin mc-whateverhisface and Mike Cernovich, and many others. They see the opportunity, and they take it. Which is fine, really. Even people like Mike Weiner(savage) are calling themselves alt-right and swinging further along with the pendulum, because if they don't, their audience will go find someone who IS talking about the things they're thinking about, and giving voice and articulacy to the things they're passionate about.
>he did make one startling admission on the (((RUBEN REPOYT))) where he said "they say that (((we))) control everything, well they're right, (((we))) do!"
I've heard a lot of Jews say things to this effect. I don't think it matters when Jews say this, they only ever get angry when non-Jews say this. Just like it's "anti-semitic" to quote unpleasant things Jews say. Never mind the fact that you're just saying something that they did say; they never DENY that it was said. They merely try to silence the truth by screaming "anti-semite".
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>>91772890
Greg Johnson is a guest on TDS every other week.

They only ever speak out against faggotry when it comes to blatant gay pride parades and standard fuck parties. This is tantamount to when bluepills make the "not all blacks are niggers!" argument.
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>>91772436
This. This all sounds like a bunch of fucking Islamic extremist talk. Gays who buy into the idea of a strong society only add to the manpower for economic of militaristic purposes. The lesbians... they'll never fall in line, not even after the Orlando terrorist attack.
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>>91773247
Greg Johnson is not gay. Neither is Spencer, but you already knew that. And Millenial Woes is only a quarter bi. He said in one of his videos that 75% of the people he is attracted are women. And Greg Johnson is one of the most respectable people on the alt right. Anyone who has anything bad to say about him is a faggot and can't be trusted
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>>91773505
>Gays who buy into the idea of a strong society only add to the manpower for economic of militaristic purposes.

How are they going to do that when they are dying of AIDS or fucking little boys?

>1 post by this ID
>Already shilling for TRS

kek, way too obvious retard.
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>>91770991
brainwashed libshits aren't normal people. Normal people are vaguely aware of race but haven't thought about it too deeply.
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>>91773247
almost got baited

found out after you said richard spencer gay
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>>91773526
>Greg Johnson is not gay.
Yes he is.

>Neither is Spencer, but you already knew
that.
Closeted homo. Gaydar exists for a reason.

>And Millenial Woes is only a quarter bi.
Oh okay, so its not gay to suck cock so long as I eat out three pussies per cock to make up for it.
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>>91773828
Effeminate man with soft faggy voice regularly sticks up for gays in a movement largely composed of guys that thoroughly detest homosexuality.

He's a fucking fanook
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>>91773472
>>91773849
>>91773711
>>91773707
>>91773526

found you out.

Angry crowder fans raid us got baioted hard fuckk off and kill yourselfs
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>>91773849
I'm gonna have to second this. I'm pretty sure Richard Spencer is gay.
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>>91773849
>>Greg Johnson is not gay.
>Yes he is.
You got any evidence to back that up?
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>>91758487
>Is he, dare I say it, our guy?
No. Milo is.
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>>91773707
Hans, the death of gays is not 100% attributed to HIV/AIDS. I take issue with that being spread in that community, but I'm not going to stoop to the level your future Islamic government will in executing homosexuals who can contribute to a just, strong society. Pedophiles should be executed. HIV/AIDS is primarily spread through intravenous drug use (heroin) - an extreme stop will be needed for this. I don't even know what TRS is, Hans, just trying to through some ideas out there.
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>>91758487
He's pretty alright. His pan-European nationalism and "lol I don't have a set ideology I'm just a white identitarian" is kinda meh though
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>>91758487
faggots arent human

kys
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Guys this is a raid thread.

Do not answer. The Crowder fans try to subvert us by shitting on them.

was strange since noone really disucces them on this site only on the other so.

>IGNORE
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>>91774128
>gay voice
>"you guys need to have plenty of white children, because lord knows I won't be"
>literally admitted to being a faggot on some podcast a year or two ago
>whenever he speaks about homosexuality, it sounds incredibly forced, like he's saying something he doesn't want to, like when he struggled to call milo a faggot on the recent FTN. Only objects to public displays of faggotry because it makes him look bad, but does not seem to object to poopdick itself
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antisemitism correlates to intelligence because of pattern recognition, when you find out how much the jews were behind you won't be able to resist sperging out
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>>91773828
>>91773526
>>91772890
>Greg Johnson

"There are basically only two options: (1) get rid of all homosexuals or (2) stop caring about them. The first option cannot work"

"what makes most people care about homosexuals is the Bible, which treats homosexuality not just as abnormal but as an offense against God. This is the source of the intense and irrational anxiety and the sense of moral contagion involved in gay panics. "


"my view is that White Nationalism should be “straight but not narrow,” meaning that we should uphold and defend heterosexuality as the norm"

https://archive.is/ShFEo
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>>91774359
I don't consider myself a "white nationalist" myself
nobody calls Latinos "nationalist" for thinking their countries belong to them
nobody calls Arabs "nationalist" for thinking their countries belong to them
Nobody calls Africans "nationalist" for thinking their countries belong to them
Nobody calls Asians "nationalist" for thinking their countries belong to them
Why do I have to be a "nationalist" to think Canada belongs to Canadians? Seems like a strawman to me. Canada IS Canadians. A nation is its people, not its dirt. Our enemy likes to pretend it is the other way around.
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>>91774240
1/8 gay whites have HIV
1/4 gay spics have HIV
1/2 gay niggers have HIV

And that's only looking at HIV. It's even worse if you were to look at a composite of all the other common STDs (HepB, HepC, Gonorrhea, Chlamydia, Syphilis, etc )

The only reason they're not all dying of AIDS is because billions in taxpayer dollars is spent on R&D, drugs, and healthcare to support their shitty lifestyle.
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>>91774449
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>>91774744
"my view is that White Nationalism should be “straight but not narrow,” meaning that we should uphold and defend heterosexuality as the norm"

Someone needs a helicopter ride

The bible speaks out against homos because ancient people correctly identified that gays were fucking degenerate trash that had a negative impact on society both directly and indirectly causing lower social trust among heterosexual men who couldn't be sure if other men were their bros or trying to fuck them in the ass literally.
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>>91774910
I think Kissinger said it best.
“If it were not for the accident of my birth, I would be anti-Semitic,” he once quipped, and “any people who has been persecuted for two thousand years must be doing something wrong.”
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>>91774856
I agree with this - the medicine for it has made it acceptable, and I find that disgusting (i.e., bug chasers). Now that you're throwing race into the picture, it also changes things. I have no solution, but I disagree with killing able-bodied men that have a use because of sexual orientation.
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>>91773707
This is a numbers game. If we want to win the war, we need people. That means creating a narrative that any white person, even moderate or left-leaning whites, can latch on to.

Our goal is to defend European culture. Let people freely associate that culture with whatever things they personally enjoy, whether it's sexual liberation or traditional marriage. Just say European culture, and let people decide for themselves what that means. That makes it much more appealing as an ideal, and it's the only way we can win over enough people to survive as a nation.
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>>91772730
>>91773247
>>91773849

>"both Taylor and Spencer are genuine people, and they may in the future present political positions in line with those of the mob and serve as a rallying point for the movement. "-Andrew Anglin

>AA recurring guest and friend of TRS
>Weev supports TRS
>David Duke supports TRS

We get it, you want to drown the fags in a peat bog. Go talk to your pastor about it. Let the big boys do their job while you larp the night of the long dildos on IM.
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>>91774744
did you ever hear one episode of fash the nation or the daily shoah?

They hate Niggers, Skypes, gaysand any kind of degeneracy.
They cringe when they hear graphical homosexuality

>Imba guest writer

eternal retard strikes again.
Argues like a true liberal.

>I have a guest on my show or let him write on my site.
>Now i am responsible for everything that person has ever said.

Solltest echt für CNN arbeiteen du dummes kind.
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>>91761845
>not including red ice radio
I think they're breddy gud, why leave them out?
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>>91775187
I've done rotations at an HIV clinic. These people are degenerate as fuck and we pay for them. And believe me, they are NOT "able bodied men". They are fucking sick, both mentally and physically. You do not want these people in your society.

The jew media has successfully pushed this false narrative that "gays are just like us!" through shows like Will & Grace. It's just not true.

The average gay man has 500 sexual partners. Average. They do not belong with us. We are better off without this 2% of the population. They don't breed anyway. No value lost.
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>>91775272
>muh IM
Oh right, the latest TRS boogeyman. As if I LARP with some uzbek.

I overall support TRS as well, but I'm going to call them out when I see them pulling shit. And it's become blatantly clear that the TRS inner circle is a social group first and an ideological movement second. Ideology goes out the window when your friends are fags. They can stay because reasons.
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>>91768912
>sausage party.jpg
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>>91775414

Seventh(mywife's)Sun took down many radiocasts because they spoke negatively about faggots.

Not sure why you keep defending TRS.
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>>91776255
sure thats the reason.

and you sure have a link for that
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>>91775564
I did not know this.
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>>91758787
>It's a subscription based website. Either pay up to compoundmedia or find a torrent.

paying to see gavins buttplug, lol what a cuck

>>91758487
>Richard Spencer . Is he, dare I say it, our guy?

duh! also most handsome

>Also who /proudboy/ here

>he fell for the memes
>2016

WHY IS RICHIE SO ELEGANT AND SEXY?
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>>91773323
>I've heard a lot of Jews say things to this effect. I don't think it matters when Jews say this, they only ever get angry when non-Jews say this. Just like it's "anti-semitic" to quote unpleasant things Jews say. Never mind the fact that you're just saying something that they did say; they never DENY that it was said. They merely try to silence the truth by screaming "anti-semite".
don't think milokike has calle anyone anti-semite

so anyway, that's my 2p worth, he may be useful because gets more views for us to redpill properly, but maybe he is trading off us and bluepilling subtley
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>>91775564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE9JlONzrVU

Jesus Christ these people belong in ovens.
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>>91776691
>so anyway, that's my 2p worth, he may be useful because gets more views for us to redpill properly, but maybe he is trading off us and bluepilling subtley

I would have to disagree. I don't think there's any significant number of people that have become redpilled through milo. I don't think there are people coming to us via milo, rather than any other channel.

If anything, he's acting as a last-ditch guardsman for ZOG.

>oh no, these goyim have gone bad! They woke up from liberalism! They rejected neoconservatism! We even tried to reel them in with libertarianism! Backup plan: have milo trick people into thinking that the alt-right is actually "cultural libertarianism"! Make them think they've reached the cool edgy political ideology even though it's just neoconservatism with a new coat of paint!

He's siphoning away potential goys. He's snatching the redpill out of their mouths before they can swallow (n-no homo)
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>>91774028
sounds like a disinfo shill tactic

no evidence huh?
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>>91758487
I can't erase his asshole from my mind.
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>>91776691
>don't think milokike has calle anyone anti-semite
nope, because his main audience doesn't care if people are "anti-semitic", so there's no reason for him to do it. He even goes so far as to say "there is no anti-semitism, people just do it to get a reaction"
>>91777244
Milo is not a zog mastermind. He's an opportunistic faggot Jew, and he says the kinds of thing that a faggot Jew writing for a conservative media outlet would say. He does in effect do exactly what you accuse him of doing, so I suppose his motivations are really irrelevant. He must be denounced and dismissed as to become just as irrelevant as his faggot Jew motivations.
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>>91776454

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4OGruPW6Z0

Prep.

>slut pill for married faggots wanting to do a 50+ man gangbang in a weekend.

That's normal...right?
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>>91777777
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>>91776953

I understand that it's bad for society, but homosexuality is undoubtedly a secondary issue in the grand scheme of things. Homosexuals have existed, and will exist regardless of what we do, and we will not make any strides by making that a primary issue.
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>>91776441

Now will you fuck off back to TRS?
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>>91776953
POZZZED
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>>91776509
>paying to see gavins buttplug, lol what a cuck
Honestly m8 he deserves the money hes had really interesting people and those people have been given good air time. People like Jared Taylor have been on his show many times and Gavin gave him lots of air time. I give him shitloads of respect for that.
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>>91770579
A clickbait title would suffice. False content is no good.

>>91770991
(((Wew)))

>>91770275
>He should be used to redpill naive white people, and should be dropped the second he stops helping us out.

He never helped. In any case would stealing from a Whites only scholarship count?

>>91774468
Greg Johnson white knight's for gays, but you need to post a link or video to prove he is gay.
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>>91777820
BURN THEM ALL LORD SEND THE FIRE FROM HEAVEN!!!!
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>>91779166

Gavin, please stop beggin here.
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>>91779166

Would you just upload the Spencer interview already? I live Gavin and Anthony Cumia and all, but I'm not paying for that shit.
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>>91777791
I don't think he's a zog mastermind. I don't actually believe there's an overaching conspiracy that every jew is in on. Framing it as such just makes it easier to comprehend

I know that it's simply in their genetics. Jews are subversive by their nature. They can't help themselves. Yes, he is an opportunistic piece of shit. But he also just so happens to jewish and just so happens to be going around trying to lead people into believing the "alt right" is something its not. He probably doesn't even know what he's doing. It's in his nature.
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>>91775564
You're right and let me post some proofs.

http://pastebin.com/aiTLKLJc
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/4/26/970357/-
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,948045,00.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1172711/posts
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/05/11/science/new-homosexual-disorder-worries-health-officials.html?pagewanted=2
http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/lgbt.2014.0020#utm_source=PR&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=LGBT
http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/22SxSo/PnSx/HSx/hosx_lifspn.htm
http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2008/12/the-longevity-of-homosexuals-before-and-after-the-aids-epidemic/
http://healthland.time.com/2013/02/27/same-sex-couples-not-as-healthy-as-heterosexual-married-couples/
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/abbott/100424
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/8/gay-couples-children-oppose-same-sex-marriage-tell/
http://www.tradyouth.org/2015/09/the-majority-of-homosexuals-are-spreading-hiv-on-purpose-and-its-being-covered-up/
http://dailysignal.com/2012/06/11/new-research-on-children-of-same-sex-parents-suggests-differences-matter/
http://www.libertynewsnow.com/tag/serial-killers
http://www.adherents.com/misc/hsk.html#source
http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/the_no_difference_theory_is_dead
http://www.independe...ys-8165971.html
https://www.american...lgbt-community/
http://psychcentral....or-homosexuals/
http://www.advocate....ence-lgbt-issue
http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/2589133
http://www.reuters.c...N0HJ25X20140924
http://jid.oxfordjou...143/2/188.short
http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC1704818/
http://www.sciencedi...145213494000425
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4660555/

http://www.theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/22SxSo/PnSx/HSx/SocrdsHowAmerGay.htm
https://www.amazon.com/Homosexuality-American-Psychiatry-Politics-Diagnosis/dp/0691028370
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_psychology#Mental_health_issues
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>>91777820
And for people that don't know, this isn't some off-the-cuff that a couple of faggots are using HIV meds for.

This is literally an FDA-approved indication for truvada. This is something researched, written about, and studied in the medical literature. It's literally recommended that unpozzed fags take HIV meds so that they can fuck as many cocks as they want with impunity
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who /homonationalism/ here?
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>>91779274
I'm not going to dig through dozens of hour-long interviews to find the one where Grindr Greg admits to being gay. Put it together yourself. The truth is out there, Scully.
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>>91779708
It's not like they care about the risks anyhow. They also ignore how with the growth of antibiotic resistance syphilis will likely be deadly again in 10 years.
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>>91779381
>Framing it as such just makes it easier to comprehend
I don't know about that. I find most normalfags understand the way Jews, and are much more receptive, if I just point out to them that Jews are people instead of accusing them of conspiring. Getting people to empathize with Jews makes them much more likely to understand just why they would do the things they would do, which makes them more willing to accept that they DO do them. And of course, only turbocucks would ever not be reviled by their actions, empathy or no.
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>>91779343
I don't have money for a sub but if I was going to buy some entertainment it would be him or Sam Hyde.

>>91779333
i just see people that should get paid to bring alternative news that is at least mostly true unlike every other news outlet. I don't even trust rebel news all that much but its better than the other shit that gets put out there.
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>>91779974
It's much more esoteric to explain the evolutionary adaptations that have occurred in jews due to their unique survival strategy, and how traits like tribalism and nepotism on the individual scale can sum up to essentially form something that, for all intents and purposes, may as well be a global ZOG conspiracy.

It's hard for white goyim to understand just how fucked up the jews mind is. I still can't comprehend that the jew does this subversive shit and also believes his own lies. But he does! He can't help himself.
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>>91779910
>It's not like they care about the risks anyhow

But this is especially true now due to HIV meds that we hand out for free like candy (despite them costing thousands of dollars). There's no longer any incentive for fags to bother caring about the risks, because they can always just hop on HAART and be good to go.

Yeah, they're obviously fucked-up in the head as well. But our unhealthy incentives aren't helping either.
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>>91780265
I guess it depends who your audience is. I know a lot of white people really do love esoteric and conspiracy shit, and are more susceptible to that than to reason. After all, to people in a consensus trance, true information tends not to mean anything.
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>>91779845
If you say he's gay the burden of proof is on you. I fully acknowledge that Greg Johnson is a left wing White Nationalist who thinks gays aren't terrible. I disagree with his old left ideology and pro-gay propaganda, but I have no proof he's gay.

Protip: Keep a notes document. I have a >40 page document open at all times. I post any links which I find interesting or relevant. Here's a few choice ones.

A gun used in the Bataclan Massacre was linked back to the Fast and Furious gunwalking program.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2016/06/law-enforcement-sources-gun-used-paris-terrorist-attacks-came-phoenix/

CNN literally faked the news in the Gulf War. Skip to 1:30 to see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWY14eyMFg

John McCain was a collaborator in Vietnam. He wasn't tortured.
http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-tokyo-rose-ran-for-president/
http://www.counterpunch.org/2008/06/13/mcnasty/
http://www.unz.com/article/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YwnTnmbOMQ
http://gotnews.com/released-john-mccains-tokyo-rose-north-vietnam-broadcasts-recovered-wesearchr/
https://youtu.be/xNuNiU-Ip3c

All from having notes ready.
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>>91780466
We should absolutely stop incentivizing them. This gay worship complex we have needs to stop.
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>>91780780
It's more about information density.

It's the same principles of why a bite-sized meme propagates throughout a population more quickly than a thorough treatise or research article.

"ZOG" is a meme with layers of truth beneath it. It's just the surface. The frontman.
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>>91780782
You're right, senpai. I should make use of my white agency
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>>91770662
You know I am really starting to think this is some divide and conquer shit. I don't really care about gay shit (i like the russian way of thinking about gay propaganda) and I think many of us on /pol/ believe this same shit.
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>>91775564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjPQ_jVlEnQ
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>>91780782
>Greg Johnson is a left wing White Nationalist who thinks gays aren't terrible.

he is based enough about homos, promotes patriachy and heteronormativity , good enough for me
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>>91781129
Enjoy winning debates, it's fun.
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>>91775189
oy veyyy rabbi, you make so much sense
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>>91781327
>http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/03/gay-panic-on-the-alt-right/

>First, there is no point worrying about homosexual entryism, because they are already inside. When I first arrived on the White Nationalist scene in the year 2000, it was apparent that a number of discreet and open homosexuals like Martin Webster were already well-ensconced.

>Second, the most enthusiastic purgers are themselves “outsiders” and would-be entryists who are in no position to purge anyone.

>Third, the movement is not a monolithic, centralized, Bolshevik party, so talk of purges makes no sense anyway. Again, there is nothing to prevent people from creating their own groups and platforms according to their own ideological tastes.

>Finally, as I said before, even if the purgers get what they want, it still does not protect them against gay panics, because the problem is not the presence of homosexuals, but the specter of homosexuality, the mere possibility of homosexuality, which will never disappear.

>But as long as homosexuals uphold healthy norms and have something positive to contribute, they can and do make our movement stronger, if we stop worrying about it.

This attitude is first expressed as defeatism because you'll never purge every gay. Then he brings up flaws of the people who dislike gays. This last bit though takes the cake.

>as long as homosexuals uphold healthy norms

Just posting that reveals a level of ignorance that is honestly embarrasing. I don't hate Greg Johnson, I don't know if he is gay himself, but I can't agree with him here.

See>>91779580
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>>91781972
If you think about it, it's literally no different then when libcucks say "the wall will never work! lol just give up and let your country become north mexico"
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>>91781972
>Just posting that reveals a level of ignorance that is honestly embarrasing. I don't hate Greg Johnson, I don't know if he is gay himself, but I can't agree with him here.

I wish I could find the article on c-c where he talks about the improtance of heteronormativity, but I understand he is kind of soft on homosexual quastion (his close frined is Charles Craft what do you expect...+ he lives in SF so do the math).

But Im kind of partial to say anything bad about Greg since he is such a valuable person for the right and a great intelelctual (far better than R. Spencer)
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I've met Richard Spencer and listened to him speak at an alt-right meet up. Bummed him a smoke and shot the shit with him for a bit. Guy is super cool and very sharp. I don't know why /pol/ would hate him.
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>>91781972
my bigger problem with c-c and greg is his promotion of paganism (despite the fact he cant explain his beliefs other than "its better than Christianity because more ethnocentric"). In this fantastic piece he desmises Christinity on a pretty bad basis (part is "Kierkegaard on the Claim of Values")

http://www.counter-currents.com/2015/02/notes-on-nihilism/

>>91782899
>Bummed him a smoke

wot? like 420? the guy is OK, so it GJ, nooone is perfect so learn to cooperate
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>>91778679
what point, and what are they doing?
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>>91783103
No, I'm pretty sure everyone at the meet up agreed that pot is for niggers. He said he doesn't smoke cigarettes often at all but he likes to indulge once in a while. That was when I had a one-on-one conversation with him. Like I said, great guy.
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>Heimbach

Matthew Heimback is a retard LARPer cut from the same cloth as skinhead idiots from the early 90s.

He does far more harm than good.
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>>91782228
Bingo. If you can't provide a perfect solution, why do anything at all.

>>91782618
He makes pretty good videos and is a White nationalist. I disagree with his left wing politics, but I think gay acceptance is poison.

>>91782899
Richard Spencer tries a little to hard to be precise at the expense of being decisive. I think he's a better organizer than a thinker. He is a better party chair than propagandist.

He also some lost credibility recently when he refused to join the effort to purge Milo after promising to "fucking destroy him" if he harmed the Alt Right.
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>>91783353
>No, I'm pretty sure everyone at the meet up agreed that pot is for niggers.

Oh, I would be vary surprised if he smoked weed, he said many times he enjoy bourbone, he has a good sense of humour it seems

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPDYHR8T78

>>91783484
>but I think gay acceptance is poison.

couldt argue more, but people often forget that you have people you have and you "start form where you are" as a famous organizer once said
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>>91777244
you might be right, but how do we know?

it could be that many milo anti-feminysts reasearch the alt-right and see it is mainly anti-kike, nigger, gook and spic

or it could be that they just focus on sjws, does anyone know?

>>91777791
he dis say that, but he also admitted to joosh control

BUY MY FILTERS!

> his main audience doesn't care if people are "anti-semitic"
surely that is good, isn't that their cheif hold over most people?
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>>91783103
>http://www.counter-currents.com/2015/02/notes-on-nihilism/
I felt like I didn't get much out of that, but I don't see how it has much to with Christianity vs Paganism.

My view on the issue is that Christianity as it exists right now is a problem. The Church has lost it's moral authority to judge conduct and spends an inordinate amount of time shilling for diversity. We need a Church that can get un-pozzed. As for Paganism, I'm not against it per se, but I don't think it's really a viable religion for the masses. Christianity can be.

>couldt argue more, but people often forget that you have people you have and you "start form where you are" as a famous organizer once said

I actually think it's easier to conduct any ideological pruning while we're still small. If we can kick out the degenerate camp followers like Milo and Gavin now that means they won't get too established. If we let this go on without fighting it we will have to contend with Gavin McGinnes et al being major Alt Right figures.

We are building a foundation right now and that needs to be rock solid. Gays and degenerates will weaken the amalgam.
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>>91778746
trigger warning that shit nigger

>>91779343
>I live Gavin and Anthony Cumia
cumia is a self entitled faggot cuck

and not funny
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>>91784386
Meant for>>91783820
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>>91783823
>you might be right, but how do we know?

You could just ask around on /pol/ or elsewhere. I've heard many MANY people argue that milo could be good for bringing people into the movement.

But I have yet to see a single person raise their figurative hand and say "I was a bluepilled faggot but I got into milo after reading breitbart and now I want to gas the kikes race war now"

Milo is the very definition of controlled opposition.
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>>91758487

Big Dick Spencer winning the heart of an SJW College qt at Berkeley. 1:49:35

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3X-6V1a1gk
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>>91783820
>couldt argue more, but people often forget that you have people you have and you "start form where you are" as a famous organizer once said

I agree, and that's why I'm not advocating throwing fags out of helicopters. However, I do find it troublesome that there are a shitload of gays, closeted gays, and gay defenders in the "thought leader" caste of the alt-right. How the hell is this group going to move forward "from where we are" if like half the well-known voices are fags? They're going to cuck for gays now and they'll keep cucking for gays until they're removed. Better now than later when they're ingrained.

The longer we wait to physically remove gays (from the movement, not from existence just yet) the more viable the argument of "but gays have always been a part of our movement, goy!" will become.
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>>91770254

He still shagged this though.
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>>91784386
>>91785016
>I actually think it's easier to conduct any ideological pruning while we're still small.

that where i disagree since I think that ideologicla basis already is here in a stasifctory level.

people like david duke, bowden, taylor, GJ, RS... all had/have a lot to say, some lolbertarians also but its been almost 50 years and we need a more pragmatic approach and ideology will devople trough action (its always better to act on what you know and expant knowledge parralelly than to wait for the perfcect idology that will never be here)
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>>91768912

fine collection of 2/10s you got there
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>>91785251
You mean the controlled-opposition jewess who uses SJW-style tactics of trying to get people shut down from social media when they speak against israel?
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>>91784655
This. My journey to the redpill didn't need Milo. I think I've read two comments total that said he helped them.

To be super clear about Milo to all of his defenders here's what wrong with him and why:
>Embezzlement
Milo opened up a Whites only scholarship fund and pocketed all of the money. That should be enough to purge him right there. Honestly he should be deported after a prison sentence.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/breitbarts-milo-yiannopoulos-raised-100k-for-charity-deposits-it-in-his-bank-account/

>He doesn't write his own articles
They are a group effort, so really it's just his name attached with some gay jokes.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/breitbart-milo-yiannopoulos-interns-write-articles-article-1.2585547

>His analysis is facile
He has no actual right wing opinions. He just says that the left are the real homophobes for letting in Muslims. He doesn't care about preserving our culture, he just wants to poz in peace.

>He is reliant on gay sex references
I have watched him in interviews and read "his" writing where he described how he lost his virginity in an underage orgy with a drug dealer, how he's a bottom, and that he prefers Black men. If his arguments stood on their own he wouldn't need the bait.

>He advocates for circumcision of infants
Terrible cruelty and it's what (((they))) want.
http://www.avoiceformen.com/male-genital-mutilation-2/milo-yiannopoulos-a-mutilated-penis-is-a-sexy-penis/

>He lies about the alt-right
It's just ironic racism and anti-semitism to him. Also he shat on weev.

>He's Jewish
Read Kevin MacDonald
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>>91785251
I've heard this before. What's the sauce on it?
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>>91785453
Agree to disagree on that one.
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>>91785788
Ashley Rae Goldenburg

She's a Twitter Jew who attended NPI and comments on Alt Right stuff sometimes. I think she can be pretty well summed up with GOTIS as of now.
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>>91785016
>However, I do find it troublesome that there are a shitload of gays, closeted gays, and gay defenders in the "thought leader" caste of the alt-right.

yes there are plenty but I wouldnt say they hold that much power, since the "alt right" isnt yet defined so you cant push the bottom-down hierarchy (no pun intented).

best way to define alt right imho is simply non-postmodernist or non-egalitarians who live in the wester world, so there really isnt an idology but simply a force of protest.

my redpilling started with Ron Paul actually who was far from alt rightist but the whole Paul revolution was chanelled into AmRen...I think the same might be the case with Milo, Jack Donovan and other fags
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>>91785453
You're making a false dichotomy. "You either have to expand and have as many people under the tent as possible or you have to sit around in stand-by until you've reached your final form"

We can continue moving forward while being critical of faggots.

GJ can still exist. RS can still exist. They can still have things to say. But what I'm saying is that we can't let these people's personal homolust (or defense of homolust) impede the ideology of literally everyone else.

What we have here is a phenomenon where the vast majority of alt-right people detest gays. And yet we have an "intellectual caste" of leaders who are disproportionately gay or gay-supporting. And they are effectively plugging up the ideology of the majority by not talking about the Fag Question and telling other people that they shouldn't talk about the Fag Question.

They can still exist. But no one is beyond criticism. There is much to criticize with these people.
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>The year of our lord MMXVI
>Still watching Gaping McAnus
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>>91758487

Spencer is pretty solid, a bit too romantic with all his pan-Europeanism shit. It's nice and all, just not realistic. He shines best as administrator bringing other people together- he himself is not a fantastic writer, but Radix Journal does find some truly gifted ones like Gregory Hoode (every piece he's out out in the last 5 months should be required /pol/ reading). NPI is having about big Washington conference in November, but I think the tickets are a lil expensive
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>>91759844

>You fools, he supports Dugin and Putin!!!!

Where do you think you are?
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>>91785509

Yes. Them tits though.
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>>91786112
Well said. We should preface our criticisms so that we limit it to their positions on gays as long as they maintain their position. We could also ask for more homophobic writers in CC and speakers at NPI. Make them face the controversy and the failure of their acceptance.
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>>91766886

No one realizes they're a white nationalist until they realize they're a white nationalist.
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>>91786047
>yes there are plenty but I wouldnt say they hold that much power, since the "alt right" isnt yet defined so you cant push the bottom-down hierarchy (no pun intented).

They hold huge power. People on the alt-right are well familiar with all of these names. They absolutely hold sway. And they are stifling opposition to gays. It's not a coincidence that RFS and NRO got wiped from existence due to criticizing the "thought leaders". That should raise some massive red flags.

>best way to define alt right imho is simply non-postmodernist or non-egalitarians who live in the wester world, so there really isnt an idology but simply a force of protest.
Too technical. Reminds me of all the special snowflakes who describe themselves as anarcho-hyphen-somethings. Alt-right is just another way of saying white nationalist. And there's nothing wrong with that.


But this brings up another point, which is the divide between the "thought leaders" and their followers, and /pol/ (both here and 8/pol/). We inherently do not like namefags, as that is the reason we started using anonymous imageboards in the first place. Decentralization. No voice being louder than the others simply because its attached to a well-known face, etc. It's better that way from an ideological standpoint. I understand the importance of figureheads/namefags/faces for movements like this, but this also doesn't jive well with /pol/acks, inherently. It rubs me (and many others) the wrong way when a select few faggots with popular blogs go around saying that "homosexuality is western culture" or "you can't get rid of gays, just stop trying to stop us" and all that sort of shit. The vast majority do NOT agree. Most do not like faggots.
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>>91786888
I am required to agree with you despite tautology if I don't want to invoke the wrath of kek.
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>>91766886

That plebbit thing was not a scam- secret billionaire guy was, incredibly, legit. the oculus dude

Is Milo the best way to get people through he door? No. but getting them trough the door has always been the most difficult part, even if only 2% of Mili fans take the pill that's still a wider net being cast than almost any other alt-right related figure
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>>91786112
>What we have here is a phenomenon where the vast majority of alt-right people detest gays. And yet we have an "intellectual caste" of leaders who are disproportionately gay or gay-supporting.

It is weird, but right now I think the bigger problem is division in the ranks and time running out since non of the "leftist racist/alt right degenerates" made a clear support of faggotry its still a moldable position.

many important question are also opened
-russian q
-european megastate vs nationstate q
-paganism vs christianity
-how white is white enough q
-...

and I thinkg we should put that importance on solving them before acting or is my pragmatic nature taking the best of me?
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>>91776509
Gavin did the buttplug thing one episode to prove he can dance better than Hillary with something up his ass!!
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>>91783200
A bunch of super hardcore autists at IM have made it their holy crusade to AstroTurf and shill on TRS forums until they become just as an incompetent group of skinheads without any power as them. A few alt-right talking heads attack the TRS crew for not immediately severing ties with a few other alt-right talking heads because of misunderstood, out-of-context quotes that could be construed as tolerating homosexuality. The admins of TRS told those people that they're not going to pay to host their content where all they do is talk shit about them for 3 hours.

The latest hilarious alt-right drama is when a hardcore natsoc autist tried to make a 'principled stand" and invoke freedom of speech on an explicitly authoritarian website. That went about as well for him as you would think.
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>>91787010
We could set up our own Alt Right website and podcast that's redpilled on the FQ and call out the homophile cucks elsewhere. We just have to make sure we don't chimp out like Common Filth and remain factual in our criticism.
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>>91760312
Sage is a verb you new fag

Sah gay
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>>91758487
Spencer is a moderate compared to most of the alt-right

>who /proudboy/ here
gas yourself
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>>91768343
>cant meme
Return to reddit
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>>91786800
Exactly. It's not like I'm going to completely throw in the garbage everything Grindr Greg says just because he's a fanook. But I'm not just going to stand by and accept faggotry just because I like his views on white nationalism.

As for Spencer... eh. I don't see what purpose he serves. He doesn't really say anything intellectually interesting. You'd think he'd be more of a figurehead that would be good for outreach to normies, but whenever he goes to talk at venues/interviews, he just talks in a really esoteric roundabout way where nobody (normies or shitlords) even knows what the fuck he's trying to talk about. All he does is go around putting his foot in his mouth. He would be good if he could just be more straightforward in what the hell he's trying to say.

I don't *hate* the guy, but I just see him as a failure who's been trying to make this happen for years, and got cucked by /pol/, and now he's trying to attack his brand to something he really had no hand in creating.
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>>91758487
>/proudboy/
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>>91787010
>Alt-right is just another way of saying white nationalist.

in a very broad sense of term you can say that, but WN is basically stormfront, alt-right has a very different vibe which is much less defined
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Richard is just your standard, indie-scene hipster who became a WN. Same ultimately empty speeches with lots of pontification and verbosity, but "arguing" for whites. He does provide a good face for the movement and along with Jared Taylor make for a decent vanguard to bring about an overton window shift.
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>>91787590
>As for Spencer... eh. I don't see what purpose he serves. He doesn't really say anything intellectually interesting.

THIS, for some time in 2010 I thouhg I was the only one seing that

>he just talks in a really esoteric roundabout way where nobody (normies or shitlords) even knows what the fuck he's trying to talk about.

that is because he doesnt know himself what his goal is, same from GJ, they are just anti-X
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>>91773247

>racist liberals. They're a bunch of SWPL hipsters who realized that the only way they'll have their perfect Williamsburg pumpkin spice latte utopia is if they get rid of the blacks.

I honestly that these types of racially aware classical liberal aesthetes are the only hope for the West. We just don't have the numbers without them, as much as we may wish we did
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>>91787231
We did have podcasts like that, but they got (((SHUT DOWN))).

Agreed about CF. His shtick started off by making a point about degeneracy being a very real problem, but he went to far and it's devolved into "I'm just going to do whatever it takes to trigger /pol/! White women fuck dogs!"
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>>91787010
>RFS

their implicit episode was hilarious, are they out now?

>NRO

who daT?
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>>91785251
Jewfu's, the Alt-Right's kryptonite.
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fuck Richard Spencer and his 10,000k/year Sam Francis Circle Phalanx shit
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>>91788068
>are they out now?
Gonzo, the Thalmor got to TRS

>who daT?
Nationalist Review Online, fairly spergy podcast, tried to make a principled stand on the private property of a fashy website, got the jackboot
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>>91788289
>he cant afford to join the ponzi scheme
having fun ploughing the fields peasant, Ill be enjoying my cushy political officer job
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>>91775487
>red ice radio

Definitely good
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glad to talk with you guys! quite enojayable!

Im going to sleep, its 2AM right now in cro

are you part of some fb group? where could we continue this discsussion?
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>>91783200
yeah why did they drop skyrim? I knew the guys would bantz each other but totally deleting their radio show?
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>>91787120
Relief on the leddit front.

Regarding why Milo is no good see>>91785730

>>91787165
Those are risky questions without as clear of answers as the Fag Question.
>Russian q
I think we should support Russia as long as it remains practically pro-White. Their foreign policy is infinitely better than the US/NATO right now.

>european megastate vs nationstate q
Nation states are the only way to go. We tried the megastate of the EU and it invited non-Whites while depressing White birthrates. I generally support decentralization and prefer to have many different countries figuring out the best way to preserve their common race and different cultures.

>paganism vs christianity
Christianity is in dire need of reform to stop being an accomplice to White displacement and degeneracy. As long as it is nonjudgemental and weak we need to pressure it. A pro-White Church should be the goal.

I don't think we should be anti-Pagan, but it's too much of a meme to have growth potential.

>how white is white enough q
This one is dangerous and easily lends itself to divide and conquer. I think it's Aryan ancestry. The light skinned Northern Indians and Iranians are marginal, but could be acceptable. I think Arabs, Berbers, Jews, and other Semites shouldn't really be counted as White.

As for mixes 1% non-White is still White, Morrakiu for example. But 25% isn't, Sargon (I suspect Carl Benjamin is a Jew as well).

I don't think these issues are intractable.
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>>91787913
But anon... we need to become... who we are

>>91787994
I just see them as just being one step closer to the truth. They're not bad. I agree with them on the most important things, and that's good enough for right now.

My main issue with them is that they're essentially utopians. They think that as soon as we get our country to be explicitly white, that we're going to have peace on earth and rainbows and sunshine. This is just laughable, because all of our nations used to be explicitly pro-white, and they devolved over time due to jews and our own moral decay. A strong nation needs maintenance. We can't just kick back and think our job is complete once we've obtained the ethnostate. We need to work to maintain it.

>>91787864
Agreed. Reminds me of the libshits I knew in college who thought they could out-debate everyone by just throwing around a bunch of bullshit terminology that nobody outside a (((sociology))) background is even familiar with.

He provides a good face (no homo) but he just needs to provide a good VOICE too. I don't mind him being fairly moderate. But he just needs to be straightforward.
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>>91759844
>Spencer fell for the THICC meme

Shame, he could have found a much better looking lady imo
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>>91787468
Fuck you, you nigger faggot kike cunt of a bitch... suck my dick.
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This entire thread is why the right always loses. The left doesn't care, they aren't afraid to build a coalition of the social outcasts (IE: trannies, gays, blacks, hispanics, socialists, commies, etc.) against their political enemies. All the while, we are sperging out because Richard Spencer doesn't doesn't fit our 100% ideal image, and we'll also sperg out because Jared Taylor isn't full 14/88 on the jewish question. The big-tent "alt-right" banner is supposed to our coalition. Lets put aside the petty differences and focus on the wider goal.
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>>91787663
squares and rectangles. Stormfront is WN but #NotallWNs are stormfront.

Besides, is stormfront even around or relevant anymore? They're like the online equivalent of the KKK: used to insult dissenting opinions but is a defunct organization, for all intents and purposes.
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>>91758487
I'm ripping this episode now. The thread will die before I'm done. Should be about 20 minutes, I'll upload it and create a new thread faggot.
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>>91788766
>painted-on anita-tier fake arched eyebrows

ayy lmao. Spence is handsome as fuck and this is the best he could do?
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>>91787590
I personally prefer Jared Taylor as a friendly face of the Alt Right, but Spencer is alright when he talks to friendly audiences.

Spencer maybe just doesn't appeal to us. I don't understand the appeal of Ramzpaul, but he redpilled people so I'm neutral about him.

>>91788011
CF takes shitposts as legitimate evidence and thinks that if the left has 1 million gays and the right has 1 in the closet that they are both worthless sinners. He says what's wrong with gays, but cannot operate in the messy world of politics.

That and he bans ordinary words. He won't say redpill, but he doesn't provide an alternative word to express the concept.
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>>91788880
>This entire thread is why the right always loses. The left doesn't care, they aren't afraid to build a coalition of the social outcasts (IE: trannies, gays, blacks, hispanics, socialists, commies, etc.) against their political enemies. All the while, we are sperging out because Richard Spencer doesn't doesn't fit our 100% ideal image, and we'll also sperg out because Jared Taylor isn't full 14/88 on the jewish question. The big-tent "alt-right" banner is supposed to our coalition.

AMEN

Im not saying fags arent disguistng doe, fag q was the first redpill for me actually

BE PRAGMATIC MEMESTERS
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>>91788766
Assuming any of this is true, I always took a Richard for a man who likes blondes. I feel like a degenerate talking about this.
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>>91789097
The price of being with a redpilled bitch my nigger. Hot bitches are not wife material.
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>>91789010
Where are you going to upload it?
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>>91768912
Is he, dare I say, our guy?
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>>91788880
For a while now I've thought that the most effective way the shills operate is by pushing the farthest right one can be. It's the best way to alienate new comers and dived the rest of us who really would like to talk about race/sex/biological realism. When our talking points should be about saving the white race, their entire dialog is about the annihilation of other races. And if you disagree with them all you hear is "KEK KEK NEVER PUNCH RIGHT YOU SHILL!"
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>>91788510

This thread was surprisingly unshitty
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>>91758487
>proudboy
Literally cucked civic nationalism.
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>>91789431
Mega most likely. It would get yanked form jootube.
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>>91758787
>oy vey we alt right now goyim
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>>91788880
No. No no no. That's not how this works.

The left wins because THEY DON'T PUNCH TO THE LEFT. The centrists don't countersignal against the liberals in order to appeal to the right. The liberals don't countersignal against the leftists in order to appeal to the centrists. The leftists don't countersignal against the anarchists in order to appeal to the liberals. Instead, the anarchists attack everyone to their left, the leftists attack everyone to their left, the liberals attack everyone to their left, the moderates attack everyone to their left. See how this works?

But not so with the right. On the right, people have this fucking retarded idea that attacking those more radical than themselves is going to help them out. This includes RamZ and his ilk constantly attacking "muh 1488ers" (which wasn't even a term until he made it up) for actually hating jews. And it includes TRS, Spence, and GJ attacking people for actually hating gays.

The way this is supposed to work is that you attack to your left. Not your right. Those more extreme than you will attack you. Fucking get over it. If someone personally doesn't like GTKRWN, you don't need to bring it up and spend your energy attacking the wrong fucking direction. But you DO need to attack those to the left, including conservatives, neocons, and libertarians.
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>>91789302
The right cannot build a coalition of untermensch. The left is based on the ideas of subjective reality, no cause and effect, and the recitation of socially acceptable platitudes. The left is made for losers who are unwilling to take responsibility, dindus who can't into success, and leaches who want your money to be redistributed.

The right has people who can think logically, run businesses, and take responsibility for their own failures. Adding losers to this group doesn't fit with their group dynamic.

The difference enters philosophical differences deeply rooted in personality. It's an unbridgeable gap.

>Right wing: empirical proof

>Left wing: compared to what?
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>>91758617
>>91758787
I'm downloading it now you broke ass faggots. Will have it uploaded to Mega soon. ETA 15 minutes.
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>>91788733

>My main issue with them is that they're essentially utopians. They think that as soon as we get our country to be explicitly white, that we're going to have peace on earth and rainbows and sunshine. This is just laughable, because all of our nations used to be explicitly pro-white, and they devolved over time due to jews and our own moral decay. A strong nation needs maintenance. We can't just kick back and think our job is complete once we've obtained the ethnostate. We need to work to maintain it.

Very well said, and I think this is the point where the NRx philosophy really comes into play. Leftism is a disease that can only be staved off, not cured completely. But the immediate biological threat comes before anything else, without demographic recoveries we'll never be able to have these conversations.
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>>91789764
This. The respectable opposition is the ineffective oppositon. Kasich and Lindsey Graham are no danger to the left so they are "respected" as good goys. Trump is hated because he wins.
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>>91789939
Why?
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Hmm, looks like both my posting campaigns critical of Gavin's mustache and Spencers fashy haircut found their mark
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>>91788880

Well, in public I think it's important to have as little infighting as possible- and as always, no enemies to the right. But this is /pol/, if there was ever a place to get a bit meta this is it
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>>91790099
Because I'm a SLAAAAVE, FOR YOU.
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>>91788833
homosexuals should be gassed too faggot
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>>91790269
You faggot bitch, don't get all liberal on me.
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>>91790099
Also checked
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>>91790031
I think the 100% White state is a bit of a meme, but I have an idea which may be practical and meaningful.

A White nation needs to fulfill three criteria. Whites must prevail numerically, politically, and culturally. All three are necessary. In Apartheid South Africa their numerical deficit made them weak. In the US our numerical majority is invalidated by (((someone else))) controlling our politics and culture. All 3 support each other inseperably.

So if the US were 80% White, had a dominant White culture, and laws that supported the majority it then it would be good enough.
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>>91789471
The left will always see you as the enemy. You're all nazis to them anyway. Attacking those more #woke than you isnt' going to do jack shit. The ADL isn't going to say "ah ah ah, anon #303082 hates niggers but he only wants to deport jews instead of gassing them! Shlomo! Take him off the hate list! He's a reasonable guy!"

The goal is to shift the overton window. The more people farther right, the more it shifts right. When you get rid of those further to the right than yourself, you simply make yourself the new "most extreme". And then the people more moderate than you will purge you for being too extreme. And then the ones more moderate than them will purge them for being too extreme. Note this is EXACTLY what happened to conservatives in america and in europe. People like Buckley spent their time purging out anyone who wasn't a good goy, and this positive feedback loop kept going until we were left with shit-tier "conservative" RINOs like Romney and McCuck who don't give a fuck about anything that actually matters.

Our movement has grown tremendously. And it's precisely because of super-edgy stuff about gassing kikes and lynching niggers. People like Taylor and Spencer have tried for years/decades to spread the message in a more urbane and sophisticated way. They fucking failed. A bunch of internet autists posting infographics of the holohoax and nazi pepes did far more than they ever could.
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>>91789910
>The right cannot build a coalition of untermensch.

you are right again,

by using left wing methods we might become left wingers ourselves and end up nowhere but you have to use at least a bit of them since right now you are living in a left wing system otherwise youll end up in a "worse is better" Evola type position and go nowhere.
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Regardless of what any of you fags think about him,c he's doing allot more to save the white race than any of us
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>>91790621
Gavin's a racemixing puppet for the Jews who puts foreign objects in his ass. He can't really recover from that.
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>>91790397
>calling me a faggot
>requisitioned me for oral sex
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>>91761847

Spencer was wrong to invite the faggot. But, he was right to shew away Heimbach

The guy is a mess, a gift to the SPLC/ADL. Spencer told the Shoah goys that he reasoning really was due to the misguided bush bearded pudge's penchant for stupid. Exhibit 1 for the jury: lacing up jackboots a la American History X -on command of a hostile (((MEDIA))) individual.

We have to be selective about who gets to star in our show. Again, I'm not sold on Spencer. His embrace of homosexualism is GRIDS inducing, but I'll ask him about it at the brunch at NPI this year. (Look for a fashy, well built, above average manlet for those of you going. Codeword to know it's me is AVE MARIA VICTORIA.)

tldr: Spencer: Wrong to invite homos, right to disinclude Heimbach and other assorted misguided folk.
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>>91790818
>Figure of speech

Autistic faggot
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>>91790621

How is that, exactly? Spencer has bee advocating his "alt-right" for over a decade now, if memory serves. I like Jared Taylor too, but he's been trying for decades and hasn't achieved shit.

I actually have done more than Spencer. As a cog in the meme machine known as /pol/. TRS, daily stormer, and the twitter army are all just outcroppings of /pol/ and wouldn't exist without us. And without our popularity and redpillings, nobody would even know who Spencer or Taylor were.
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>>91790942
This. I don't feel the need to signal against Stormfront, but Neo Nazis on Louis Theroux documentaries are walking bluepills.
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Video of the epic video is uploading now. Will create a new thread since this one is surely dead by then.
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>>91763787

I agree. After the election, we need to file to create a real Party. We need to define terms clearly. And while I think we should avoid definition reductio ad absurdum, we must be clear that we are pro-tradition, pro-European, and pro-family. That means the homos either have to keep it way in the closet and try to overcome their situation, or they have got to find another stage.
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>>91791092
Jared Taylor with the New Century Foundation produces the Color of Crime and American Renaissance. He provided the intellectual framework, his political skills weren't incredible, but he gave us a factual, pro-White source. He's bluepilled on the JQ, but he stays in his lane for the most part.
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>>91791108
True, but they're completely irrelevant.

That doesn't stop jew media from using stock photos of skinheads in every expose on the alt-right. They're going to try to use every trick in the book to dismantle us. Best tactic is to agree and amplify, and not waste time countersignaling skinheads.

Just like you'll never see hillary clinton or obama spending their time speaking out against the hordes of unironic communists across the country in college.
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>>91790575

Excellent post and you only need to look at the news coverage of Buckley's death to see how the left awarded his efforts. Reading his obituaries you would think his first name was Controversial.

God, Man, and Fail
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>>91790778
Spencer, not Gavin
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>>91788533
noidea

skyrim belongs to the nords
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>>91791313
I'm well aware of this. I have great respect for Jared Taylor.

I was specifically talking about outreach and convincing people that our position is right. Scott "64DD chess" Adams would tell you that facts are irrelevant in persuasion, and he's right. Amren's articles and the Color of Crime are invaluable tools for facts and stats, but this does not convince people to come to our side.

Nazis pepes do.
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He qt
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>>91790575
>A bunch of internet autists posting infographics of the holohoax and nazi pepes did far more than they ever could.

celavie nigga
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>>91791092
> posting memes is better than holding press conferences
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>>91784655
yes, but /pol/ is full fo te redpilled

of course they weren't brought hee by milo

it's the normiees though
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>>91767662

Milo whether he knows it or not (I believe he doesn't care, which is worse) is a change agent. He is a flamboyant homosexual who is craftily attempting to define what Alt Right is.

He may want it to be merely about "classical liberal values." But it is not. Tradition is the pithiest way I put it, and that will run against the grain of the Enlightenment, which radically atomized us and destroyed the tiered intra famia social order that more or less existed.

We oppose the post modern-liberal world order of the past 71 years. We favor nationalism and tradition. End of story senpai.
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>>91791769

correct

Well, one person posting a meme dose not do more than Spencer putting together and NPI conference, but meme culture does far more than the NPI.
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>>91791821
But the argument in question is that milo helps the alt right because he's apparently a "gateway" and people could potentially get into his ideology, and then end up continuing down that path to us.

So far I haven't seen and havent' talked to anyone else that's seen someone come into /pol/ or the alt-right due to milo.

He acts like a guardog. He prevents lost souls from actually reaching the red pill. Instead he redirects them towards his edgy cultural libertarianism, where the most important things are egalitarianism, fag rights, and civic nationalism. Remember, hating jews is just a PRANK bro :^) nobody actually believes that :DDD

>>91791769
Spence has been holding the same fucking press conferences for years. Do you think he suddenly got really well known and more popular because of anything he himself has done?

No. We made this happen. We cucked him and he's riding off our coattails.
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>>91791074
i'm not the one that sperged out over someone calling Spencer a moderate and implying proudboy was gay.
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>>91791950
He even admitted that the real alt-right is a separate group and the group that he's referring to (ie, libertarians) is just another group that he's ascribing the alt-right name.

Literally only reason to do this is to obfuscate what we are and prevent people from reaching us. Get people to think that the alt-right is all about loving trannies and the constitution so that they stop looking into what it actually is.

Not long ago I was naive enough to think that the alt-right could never be co-opted because you can't co-opt something that's explicitly antisemitic. Looks like I was wrong.
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>>91786047
>>91786112
gays can get fucked though
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>>91792578
Nigger I'll give you that, but understand I'm a little drunk. Yes I'm a degenerate but at least I'm on your side.
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>>91787213
im and trs are so irelevent

they just want attentino
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>>91792678
>Yes I'm a degenerate but at least I'm on your side.
Spencer is that you?
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>>91787864
>who became a WN
oh, how terrible, he must be an enemy then
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>>91788907
>They're like the online equivalent of the KKK
oy vey rabbi

>>91789105
>I personally prefer Jared Taylor as a friendly face of the Alt Right
agreed

but I see them as WN, not altright
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>>91792274

Identity Europa seems to me to have the right idea here- Mili gets a bunch of white male college students in an auditorium, there's no way we can deny that that's an opportunity, and a bigger one than most of us are capable of creating. I still believe that the chance to dire those guys to any legitimate alt right website has to have value- just get it in front of their eyes, get the pill down the throat and the hardest part is already done. But the cultural libertarian, classical liberal safety valve is real, and that one breitbart article where Milo called white nationalism/anti-semitism a fringe if the movement is far worse than any of his gay theatrics or anything else he's done. I guess I haven't quite made up my mind about him, it's certainly not impossible that he's a net negative.
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>>91791950
story?

are you advocating killing all our ideological enemiers? do you realize how un PC that is?

jesus, people might not like us if we do that!

fucking hell, what about public opinion?
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>>91792274
>So far I haven't seen and havent' talked to anyone else that's seen someone come into /pol/ or the alt-right due to milo.
so?
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>>91792974

I don't think he's insulting the KKK, I think he's saying that they're irrelevant, which they are, and that any portions of it that aren't federal honeypots are defunct, which they are.

The alt-right is white nationalism. Thats an imperfect term, but the alt-right is, explicitly and fundamentally, pro-white.
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>>91788766
He's prettier than she is
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>>91791108

I don't know enough Skins to make a blanket determination. I'm sure some are sincere. But some are absolutely drug addicts/informants/walking train wrecks. We -need- people to take the Spencer approach: well dressed, well spoken, weighs his words, etc. We will never get anywhere if we allow Heimbach (or lower) tier types to represent us.

Hitler was well dress, well spoken, and thoughtful. His movement was not a drug fueled binge of degeneracy (in before muh meth addict.) He assembled a movement and checked it when it needed to be checked (cf the SA and Rohm.)

>>91791414
I agree, there are numerically speaking vastly more 'normal' people who are going hard for 1488. Just because we don't scream epithets at every Afro we see doesn't make us cucks.

What do you mean by agree and amplify? Ignore and just carry on, letting our presentation naturally crowd out the weeds? I agree that we should just avoid addressing/disavowing these people.
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>>91793193

So that would suggest that the most persuasive argument for Milo being a net positive may not hold water.
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>>91793357
>may not
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>>91792974
The equivalence I was making is that it's an irrelevant group that everyone uses as a boogeyman, just like the KKK

>>91793012
Milo is steering people AWAY from us. He's a dogcatcher that's the last line of defense of ZOG, catching good goys and putting them back on the plantation before they turn into bad goys

Like I've said multiple times. You find me any decent number of people who got into Milo's shtick and then ended up progressing to us and finally wanting to gas the kikes. You do that, and I'll change my stance on Milo being a poison.

I've seen far more people talk about how Milo will act as an entrypoint than I have actually seeing him act as an entry point. He's most likely caused us to lose theoretical people because they got taken off-course by his shit.
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>>91792761
Im yes, TRS is one of the top 3 figures in the alt-right along with daily stormer, and AmRen

>>91792856
What? Please Nigel, lay off the tea.
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