Stanford University stumps Trump on tariffs

>>61129268
>Goldstein

>goldstein

also, Trump said he wouldn't do it. He's just going to threaten China to get a better deal.

>>61129268
>Goldstein

>>61129268
>Judith Goldstein

>China could open a dispute at the World Trade Organization and ask for compensation.

China is currently breaking so many WTO rules it's not even funny. It would be like a dindu suing over police abuse after he murdered an orphanage.

>>61129268
>people might get mad therefore we should not do it

Cuckservative logic everyone.

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>>61129268

>juden Goldstein

>>61129470
In Europe the dindu would win.

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>>61129268
>Goldstein

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>>61129268
>Goldstein

I don't think China wants to bring up anything to the WTO

>>61129268
Could someone tell me who is behind that post?

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>Goldstein

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>>61129268
>Goldstein
EVERY. GAT. DAM. TIME.

>>61129391
>threatening them with something he wouldn't do
That doesn't work.

>>61129391
If Trump said he wouldn't do it and all reasonable policy evaluations point towards not doing it, what use is the act of threatening to do it?

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>Goldstein

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>china
>not breaking every WTO rule in the book

kekekekekkekekekekekekek

ANTI-TRUMPERS CONFIRMED DESPERATE BEYOND REASON

>goldstein

100% /pol/s always right every time

>>61129386
This

>>61129660 >>61129665

Being this retarded. That's why Trump is worth 10 billion dollars and you are worth 0.

Let the deals to Trump.

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>>61129268
So we'll sail a naval group through waters China considers in it's territory, but we won't raise tariffs on them because they will write an angry letter to a body we aren't particularly beholden to?

When the wall is built, I vote to throw the OP over it.

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>>61129268
>Goldstein

>>61129268
>Goldstein

Fuck the WTO. What are they going to do about it? Worst comes to worst, Trump can just arrest all WTO members and hold them indefinitely in Guantanamo Bay. I'd support it. I bet a majority of Americans would. At least a plurality, easily.

>>61129268
I knew he was done for, he got stumped hard in the debate by everyone.

>>61129268
>Goldstein
Every time.

JUDITH GOLDSTEIN DETECTED

A-hem, oy vey, it's like anuther shoah, Trump wants a 6 million percent tax on Chinese goods! The second coming of Hitler!

>>61129268
>Goldstein
PennJillette.jpeg
Opinion discarded.
There's only trash here.

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>>61129268
>political science
>not even economics

He's dead now. Give up.

>>61129859
Authorize retaliation from injured parties

The joke is that the US doesn't set high tariffs because by lowering them, it forces everyone else to do the same for US goods, while the US uses technical barriers to trade to be protectionist anyways. Tariffs are a poor country's tool.

>>61129268
>goldstein

POL IS NEVER WRONG

>>61129268
Fine
No tariffs
Just sanctions

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>goldstein
everytime

>>61129268
>China could open a dispute at the World Trade Organization and ask for compensation.
>ask for compensation.
>ask
OOOOOHHHH NOOOOOOO
WHAT WILL WE DO??!?!
They MIGHT ask a third party.

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>>61129268

>Judith

>a feminine given name derived from the Hebrew name יְהוּדִית or Yehudit, meaning "She will be praised" or "woman of Judea". Judith appeared in the Old Testament as the wife of Esau and in the Apocryphal Book of Judith.

>Goldstein

>Jewish (Ashkenazic): ornamental name composed of German Gold 'gold' + Stein 'stone'.German: from a medieval personal name, nickname, or occupational name from Middle High German, Middle Low German golste(i)n 'gold stone', 'precious stone', (probably chrysolite or topaz, which was used as a testing stone by alchemists).

I ain't touching that shit...

>>61129268

>Goldstien

>Jewfornia College

Enough of your horseshit op.

>>61129470
Obama would adopt him and he would win.

>cool gas can, LaaQuan!

>>61129268
>political science
>takes what Trump said out of context
>GOLDSTEIN

when is /pol/ ever wrong at this point?

>>61129268
China has a 17% tariff. US has 3%. Why do other countries get to fuck the US? Go home schlomo.

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>>61129268
>Goldstein

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>>61129386
First post best post

>>61129268
Trump is wrong factually about what he said about China anyway.

He said Chinese put 45% tariffs on US goods, yet six months ago the US and China signed a trade agreement that cuts tariffs and completely removes them on all electronic imports from the US. He said the Chinese don't consume US goods, yet Buick is seen as an extremely desirable luxury brand and Apple makes about 30% of their profits in China.

Trump clearly knows nothing about foreign trade. He should stick to swindling people in the real estate market.

>>61130184
You don't know how the WTO works

The WTO does not award damages. What they can do, however, is legally authorize retaliatory trade restrictions, either in the affected sector or in an separate sector that causes equivalent impact

>>61130347
>I don't know how US protection works!
kek

>>61129268
>China could open a dispute at the World Trade Organization and ask for compensation.

When did China become the role model of trade agreements?

>>61129268
>Hey, Stanford, maybe Trump IS stumped
>read the article
>it's retarded

Everybody knows this is going to increase the price of goods. It's worth it to bring back the manufacturing industry.

What kind of retaliation would we realistically expect from China for this? The entire idea is to become less dependent on them.

Tariffs would devastate the economy. Prices on everything would rise, even domestically made products.

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>>61129268
>Judith Goldstein

>>61130565
And production would return. It's almost like every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

“Putting tariffs on Chinese products does nothing to train workers in how to be more productive, how to use new technologies to produce goods that people want around the world,” she said.

Okay, we're going to tariff America exporters at 100%, that way only the most productive workers manage to stay in the market.

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>>61130565
>muh prices

Typical globalist. Give me an exact number and then we can talk. Until then shut up.

>>61130498
>What kind of retaliation would we realistically expect from China for this?
Export limitations on rare earths, major tariffs on strategic sectors (aircraft, advanced machinery).

China tries a zillion times a year to violate WTO rules on barriers to get a trade edge and every time they get blown the fuck out. Giving them license to do it is not a good idea.

>The entire idea is to become less dependent on them.
It's US industry that'll get hurt because it's not able to do as much business in China retaliatory protectionism, m8

>>61130474
except that china is now so powerful in manufacturing, GM IS LITERALLY BUILIDING CARS IN CHINA NOW...

>http://www.wsj.com/articles/gm-to-import-chinese-made-buick-suv-1447349781

fuck off you lying kike

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>>61130057
>it forces everyone else to do the same for US goods,

kek

You better let japan and their 38.5% tariff on US beef know that

Or chinas 104.5% tariff on american poultry

Or japans 25-40% tariff on US cars

Or the UKs 10-25% tariff on US cars

Or any other number of ridiculously high tariffs we are hit with

>>61130709
America has the rare earths. We just need the corporations to do it.

>>61129268
>Goldstein

>>61130709
That's why Obama got his America Invents Act to change US Patenet Law from "first to invent" to "first to file" so that CHYNA could hire an army of about a million patent trolls free reign over our intellectual property.

They just couldn't violate the law hard enough on their own.

(((((((((Goldstein)))))))))))

>Goldstein

Enough said.

>>61130565
>>61130638
solid employment for the masses is more important than cheap superfluous consumer goods.
chinese imports are like giving everyone free beer to distract them from being unable to pay off their mortgage.

>>61130855
Companies like Space X don't even file patents anymore because China would just use it to manufacture their own cheap version.

>Goldstein

every fucking time.

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GOLDSTEIN!

Bernie totally exposed! Caught with his pants down!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GrcHgTNOuyo

>>61130920
What do you mean "like" being unable to pay off their mortgage.

Are you saying there's an enormous housing bubble in China just waiting to pop because they didn't even know what to do with all the money we gave them?

>>61129268

This cuckery has to stop. Yes, an all-out trade war with China would probably hurt the U.S., but we forget that China doesn't want a trade war any more than we do. Their economy is on the brink of collapse, and a major disturbance like losing the LARGEST market in the world would be catastrophic for their confidence, if not their entire system. Stock would tank, and there's a good chance that all of those empty cities would catch up to them in short order.

Mutually assured destruction brings people to the table, be it in military confrontations or economic ones.

>>61130741
>ignoring the main point about the tariffs

Your cherry picked argument doesn't impress me. Trump chumps are the worst.

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>>61129268
Good man. Understands that fucking Ukraine maintain is not worth it...

>>61130771
tom clancy's plan was to just mirror every other country's trade with the US exactly.

it was amusing.
foreign companies can just build manufacturing plants in the US like kia and that other nip car company has done.

>>61129268
>Judith Goldstein
>political science professor
0/10

>>61130820
Cool story

>>61130771
You're cherrypicking individual sectors, most of which have been brought down under GATT/WTO bound tariff schedules over the last 50 years anyway. Do you even know anything about trade?

>>61130771

Japan is removing almost all of those tariffs when TTP goes through

I don't think people understand how much TTP disproportionately benefits USA given that we already have such low tariffs

>>61129268
>Jew Goldjew

>>61129859
He'd have every progressive and Tea Party member on his side near instantly.

Where are all these "political science" professors criticizing Hernie Panders economic plan that clearly would put us in even more debt, and that's of it even passes any level headed congress vote.

>>61131007
He is saying meaningful and rewarding work that yields quality is better for the country than cheap imports made with slave labor.

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>>61131060
Wow, did they just outdo the mudbus?

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>Goldstein

>>61131007
the free beer is the metaphor, not the house.

people don't need to be consumer whores. we don't need to import the junk we do. people didn't used to buy this much shit. we don't need the shit to be cheap, we need it to be something you only buy once every 5 years instead of once every 6 months. we need people to have jobs that allow them to pay off their house and save money, while having less frivolous consumer goods.

constantly buying and throwing away a ton of plastic every year, while never owning anything isn't a sustainable society.

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>>61129268
GOLDSTEIN
OLDSTEIN
LDSTEIN
DSTEIN
STEIN
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>>61131151
It's a little more complex than that, because while it'll heavily cut Japanese tariffs, Japan has historically used health restrictions (sanitary and phytosanitary regulations) to limit the market accessibility of US products. However, the negotiations to establish TPP have done a fair bit to smooth that out.

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>Goldstein

>>61131092
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/03/23/what-60-minutes-got-wrong-about-rare-earths-and-china/#2715e4857a0b3e3649c2253d

Cool meme bro.

>>61131264
>>61131275
I agree entirely. I was just making a joke about how the mortgage example is actually true and not just an analogy.

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>>61129268
>Goldstein

>>61131151
I sure hope the Americans back out of TPP, maybe our cockmongler of a PM will back out if his bull masters down south do first

>>61129268

>>Judith Goldstein
>>political science professor

Mhhhhhh

>>“There’s so many reasons [raising tariffs are] not the right thing to do, I don’t know where to begin,” Goldstein said. “Almost immediately, there would be retaliation — legal retaliation.”

>China
>legal

>>China could open a dispute at the World Trade Organization and ask for compensation.

Fuck China and its enablers

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>>61131269
>weeaboos

>>61131060
>>61131265
Its literally mad max/Starwar sandpeople shit over there Christ how funny.

>>61131311
>The US has a supply of natural resources
>It doesnt produce them because another country can produce and export them cheaper at higher volume
>All that has to happen is prices go up, then the US will be self-reliant and the monopoly will fail!

Where have I heard this story before?

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>>61131416
>weeajews

>>61129665

getting a bunch of dopes to vote for him, because they don't yet realize they're a bunch of dopes and he's spinning tall tales.

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So this proves that the jews are against trump, right? That they would attack him nonsensically for no reason?

Therefore all the more reason to support him

>>61129268
>Goldstein

>>61129268
>Goldstein

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>>61131265
Ukrainians - it's like the Jews. The USSR left them with developed industry and a large number of military equipment. But why to defend the country? Better sell tanks...

>>61129268
>Goldstein

Free trade is pretty Jewish. Protectionism raised the economies of Germany, the United States, Japan and China into global powers.

>goldstein
Also she's just anti-trump. America is still a super power. People can be pissed at us but they can't do without us. We pull out of every country on earth and many of them are fucked. We stop sending aid to every country on earth they are fucked. WTO is just a bunch of jews. They have no real power against america. The power is in the hands of america.

>>61131499
The oil industry. And to be fair, America is winning the oil dispute with OPEC and Russia.

Anyway I'm glad the tariff is apparently a big issue again. Maybe we can use meme magic to bring McKinley back to life and truly live the 1890s glory years of American Empire.

>>61131661
This isn't free trade, it's literally Chinese protectionism and monopoly.

>>61131634
I still remember the early days of most recent The Ukraine uprising and watching guys trying to carry as much loot as they could hold and leaving fancy carrying cases behind. I asked, "what the fuck used to be in that carrying case?"

Answer: optics. The rebels would rather sell it than use it.

And they left the carrying case behind. Wow.

>>61129268
>Goldstein

EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

>>61131340
I'm pretty obtuse today.

>>61131744

out of curiosity why is the flag on the hat in the opposite direction of the one on your bag?

>>61129391

Except he said he would do it.
Here's how to sum up Trumps intentions.

Trump doesn't want to slap a 45% trade tariff on China. That's the last thing he wants to do.
But if China doesn't want to play ball and renegotiate terms so that both parties get a better deal, he'll use the 45% tariff as a last resort so China knows that we're being serious and not to dick around with us.

>>61131681
America as a country, yes, but not the American oil industry. The big advantage the US has over OPEC and Russia is that there are 0 nationalized oil companies here, so the US doesn't actually get starved of revenue if oil revenues fall. Saudi Arabia's break-even price might be in the 20s for Aramco profit, but its national budget breakeven price is in the 70s.

Regardless, US oil companies have been absolutely shattered, and expecting rare earths to go any different without major technological changes is simplistic.

>>61129268

China is already fucking us with "legal" trade-destroying maneuvers such as devaluing their currency, strangling imports with local-level regulation and taxes, and demanding companies build plants in their country and turn over intellectual property in order to do so.

I noticed everyone at the debate whining about "retaliation" as well; I guess it's the new buzzword. This just in: they're already fucking us in the ass in every conceivable way - all the ways that don't violate the weak language of our trade agreements. They're cockslapping us with de facto tariffs, they just aren't called that. This is exactly why we need Trump to renegotiate.

>Afraid China will retaliate if we raise tariffs on them.
>Don't retaliate when they raise tariffs on us.

Trump wants to use tariffs as a negotiating tool, it's better than using our military. Right now, we're just acting weak. They've waged an entire trade war on us, and we haven't fired a shot

>>61129268
Yeah, I trust trump over some faggot yuppie kike at Stanford. Ivy League universities are just where the dumbasses that have rich parents or are Jewish go to.

>>61131841
Posted in wrong thread so I deleted. It's from my old uniform, the flag is supposed to be like it's blowing back as you move forward, goes on right shoulder.

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>>61129268

>trump is a populist and low class people fall for it

We don't need a kikefessor to tell this.

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>>61131624
Stop making a mountain out of a molehill. Just because she happens to be jewish doesn't mean that the jews are conspiring against trump.

>>61131883
>China is already fucking us with "legal" trade-destroying maneuvers such as devaluing their currency, strangling imports with local-level regulation and taxes, and demanding companies build plants in their country and turn over intellectual property in order to do so.

This. They also subsidize the fuck out of their steel industry and other markets which is a blatant violation of WTO rules. Fuck China.

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>>61132088

purely coincidental dubs

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>>61132088
Ohhh yeahhh we've all heard that one before

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>>61132088

This just proves it all the more

Trump vs. Jews

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>>61129268
> goldstein

Why do liberals care so much about what other people think?
Who gives a shit about these marxist international organizations

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>>61131151
Just like /pol/ isn't one person, the USA isn't one person. Something that benefits a bunch of rich kike bankers doesn't necessarily help the other 99.9% of the country. You GDP worshipers are pretty much insane. There's more to life than maximizing GDP for the benefit of the very few people at the top.

Yeah, tell me about how great it will be that people in the US who lose their jobs will be able to purchase products from other countries for a bit lower price even though they'll have no money to buy those cheaper products with. People like you really want the US to race to the bottom with the third world into dirt poverty.

>>61132088
Stick around a while

>this is Trumps voter base
>this is low information voters
^^ 2016 you guys bringing down the house at least I wanna give my thanks to you for turning Breitbart news site into a click baiting birther site worse than salon Kek

>Goldstein

How to instantly know if an article is genuinely critiquing Trump or shilling.

If it's Jewish, it's shilling.

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>>61132088
/pol/ is a shell of its former self. A textbook JIDF response like this would have been flooded with replies back in the day.

>>61129268
>kike wants to abuse mexican/chink slave labour
anything else new?

>>61129268
>China could open a dispute at the World Trade Organization and ask for compensation.

Yeah who fucking cares when they break a bunch of rules themselves?

Trump 2016

>>61129268
You can't believe everything you hear just when it a professor. Especially when her name is >>Goldstein

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>>61132088
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>>61131780
The funny thing is that Ukraine knew about possible disturbances of the people in Lugansk and Donetsk, but took no action.
When the war began, Khokhlov was panic. No interaction of the parts! They send a convoy of ammunition to the position, where already 3 hours sitting by the rebels, lol.

>>61129268
classic the university knows everything.... except how to raise tuition less than the rate of inflation

>>61132088
how long did it take you to select all of those you kike?

>>61130709
china is imploding right now

they need us more than we need them

>>61132806
I just got an email from my old university and it announced that the tuition for a single year is now about 5x what my entire four year education when I went there.

No wonder the other emails are all about how many big new fancy buildings they're building and naming after old guys donating ridiculous sums, and then asking me to be loyal and donate my money, too. They're making out like bandits.

>facts don't matter if I don't like the source

You kids are absolutely a bunch of SJW's, just with a slightly different theme.

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>>61129268
The post-Cold War status-quo of everything being neoliberal and litigious is starting to crumble. The richest countries in the world are now turning on the notion that everything should be tailored to business interests.

The day is coming when countries once again subjugate the economy. The return of nationalism is at hand.

>>61131264
he was being sarcastic i think

>>61132088
oh boy

>>61129268

hmmm, I wonder who is behind this sentiment.

Perhaps it is the tribe enriching themselves dramatically at the expense of everyone else in of the current status quo.

>Judith Goldstein said

yup

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>>61129268
I love how the article (and the professors) assume that this is the only way Trump wants to bring back manufacturing to the US or that he wants to do this at all. He said that he only wanted to raise tariffs this high if China doesn't play fair and doesn't stop devaluing their currency, making it impossible for us to compete

Fuck the WTO. Them and what army is going to tell the US what to do?

>>61129268
Trump sucks on the environment. Most everything else I like.

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>Goldstein
KNOW YOUR ENEMY!

ARE YOU GOING TO ACCEPT YOUR OWN DESTRUCTION AND GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT AS EVERYTHING YOU LOVE IS BURNED TO THE GROUND, RAPED, AND DESTROYED BY THE JEWS AND THEIR NON-WHITE HORDES?

NATIONALISM IS RISING! TRUMP IS MARCHING FORWARD AND EVERY DAY HE IS GETTING MORE SUPPORT! INDIVIDUALLY, ONE STICK CAN BE EASILY BROKEN, BUT WHEN WE COME TOGETHER AND RALLY AROUND TRUMP THEN THESE INDIVIDUAL STICKS FORM INTO A CLUB WE CAN USE AGAINST OUR ENEMY THAT THE JEW CANNOT BREAK!

I COULD NEVER ASK TO LIVE AT ANY OTHER MOMENT OF HISTORY THAN THIS, BECAUSE NEVER HAS MANKIND, NEVER HAS THE HUMAN SPECIES, BEEN CONFRONTED WITH SUCH POSSIBILITIES, WITH SUCH CHOICES - OF DISASTER, OR OF GREATER HEIGHTS AND GREATER GLORIES! MY FRIENDS, DO LIVE IN THAT SENSE THAT YOU ARE WHITE; THAT YOU COME FROM PEOPLE WHO FACED TREMENDOUS ODDS, AGAIN AND AGAIN; THAT MUCH IS AGAINST YOU BUT YOU'VE GOT WITHIN YOU THAT WILL, THAT SPIRIT AND, ABOVE ALL, THAT FAITH AND THAT BELIEF WHICH WILL LEAD THE GENERATIONS TO COME TO LOOK BACK AT YOU IN THE PAGES OF HISTORY, WITH THE PROUD WORDS, "THEY STOPPED THE JEWS!"

WE USED TO BE GREAT, AND WE STILL CAN BE! OUR NATION WAS CREATED BY WHITES FROM ALL OF EUROPE WHO CAME TOGETHER AND USED THEIR WILL, THEIR ENERGY, THEIR AMBITION, AND THEIR PASSION TO CREATE A NATION THAT IS UNEQUAL IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND! AND I CLAIM THAT IN THE RANKS OF TRUMP'S LEGIONS MARCH THE MIGHTY GHOSTS OF AMERICA'S PAST AND THEIR VOICES ECHO DOWN THE AGES SAYING, "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

>>61133768
You miss the point. Carl Ichan is going to tell CHYNA to quit wrecking the environment after they're done paying us back for selling us so much toxic Chinese crap it crashed Wal*Mart.

>>61129268
>complete to the WTO
Fuck them

>Goldstein
Fuck her

>>61129470
Who gives a fuck what the WTO or China want, we literally do not need anyone. America doesn't need any other country. Fuck them all.
Fortress America

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>>61129268
>Goldstein

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>>61129268
>Goldstein

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Goldstien

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Stanford, oh nooooo, a bunch of dip shits who have not worked a day in their lives is against Trump. Didn't see that one coming!

Bernie totally exposed! Caught with his pants down!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GrcHgTNOuyo

>>61129665
No Trump didn't say he wouldn't do it,he said it wouldn't happen because China would cave.

>>61133424
Holy shit, I've never seem a version of this picture that goes on for this long. Thats gotta be one of the most replied-to comments in the history of this site

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>>61132088
Hey rookie, how JIDF seniors are treating ya?

>inb4 bait

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>>61129268
>Goldstein

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>>61134091
I just emailed the screenshot to Guinness World Recods

>Goldstein

(((GOLDSTEIN)))

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>Goldstein

>>61134091
It's fake, the reply numbers begin to repeat after a certain point>>61134104

>>61134091
>>61134162
It's shooped. I count >>24346509 four times.

>>61134471
Didn't mean to reply to >>61134104

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>>61129268
>Goldstein
>WTO
>China would sue the USA
"BAD GOYIM! DON'T DO THAT!" The argument.

>>61134471
>>61134518
I know mate, you were reffering to "literally nothing wrong with being a kike"

>China could open a dispute at the World Trade Organization and ask for compensation.

>Trump says no
>WTO goes away with their head down mumbling about the benefits of open borders under their breath

>>61129268
>Goldstein

Also, smart mother fuckers from standford don't cover how doing the same thing since the 30s got us to where we are.

America literally needs no one else, our corporations can fuck themslves, the American people don't have to put up with any other country if they are unwilling to play fair.

Fuck them all.

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>>61129268
>Judith Goldstein

>>61129268
>Goldstein

>>61129268
>Goldstein
every god damn time, im starting to believe you fuckers about the jews

>>61129268
>Goldstein

yes goyim sell out your own people for a quick profit

>>61129268
>Goldenstein
figures a fuckin jew would care so much about this. "Oh no not the legal retaliation! Muh shekels!"

fuckin kikes

>>61129268
>stumping
>lying liberal institution with weasel communist professors
okay

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>>61129268
>re’s so many reasons [raising tariffs are] not the right thing to do, I don’t know where to begin,” Goldstein said. “Almost immediately, there would be retaliation — legal retalia


why did you even bother you stupid faggot

>>61129268
>Judith Goldstein
Oy vey, this is quite literally the most Jewish name I've ever seen IRL

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>Goldstein

EVERY. TIME.