You ready to get absolutely BTFO forever, /pol/?

>>59956782
No because even if he wins, Congress will be Republican owned so none of his shit will pass

>Bernie was always BTFO

My body is ready.

>>59956782
>90% taxes for the middle class
>minorities will pay nothing
>cucks will be happy to sit in their shed when Paco wants to rail his wife

I'm ready for the "corporations" bogeyman.

>>59956782
Nobody will vote for him after the realize that "free shit" isn't actually free.

>>59956782
kek he hasnt even released his tax plan and people already want to vote for him? libshits are really the most retarded group ive ever witnessed

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>>59956782

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-8spGrLrUM


Debate Ender: The video

>>59956782
CANT WAIT

>>59956782
>Trump has had his tax plan out for months
> Burnie hasn't even finished his yet
Low energy

>>59956782

I can't wait for his vague tax plan tidy sup ultimately get pushed onto the middle and upper middle classes.

>>59957184
I guarantee you the tax plan won't shift a single person's position

>>59957096
He'll fund it based wildly optimistic growth projections and an incoherent plan to increase taxes on whoever the lefties are mad at today.
Happens every election here.

>>59956782
It's funny how Berniefags think he can beat Hillary.

>>59957007
How are retards such as yourself even capable of using the internet

>>59956782
Let me guess, da evul 1% won't be affected at all because their lawyers will find them all the loopholes and this will only end up raising the taxes of the middle class and fucking them over.

>>59956782
I can't wait to see this man BTFO Trump in the general.
Say it with me PRESIDENT SANDERS!

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>>59958194

>>59956782
>X btfo
>y on suicide watch

No matter how many times you make it, it's still a formulaic shitpost. Hidden .

>>59956782
Bernies tax plan got leaked two days ago.
Here it is:

>"Rich people will pay for everything!
>taxes on the middle and lower classes will also rise, but ignore that
>somehow by paying the government, money will trickle back down to my voters
>my voters will receive free stuff
>and rich people will pay for everything!"

>>59957096
>>59957285
Cool right-wing shilling

We haven't even seen what his tax plan is!

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>>59957197

No libs can honestly refute this guys video.

It's laughable.

Enjoy the faint dreams of your NEET parasite paradise.

>>59956782
>before Iowa caucuses

So a minute before voting begins so nobody bothers to read it?

>>59958394
I'm so sorry, the only way to keep the theead bumped was to bait

>>59958681
you think those teenaged faggots, who represent 90% of bernie's voter base, would bother to read it even if it was posted 2 years beforehand?

>>59958681
You think Bernies supporters actually read? They just have it filtered down to them from Bernies feel good speeches and hack jobs from the media, they get told it will work and they never actually look at it for themselves

>>59958482
Unless he's a wizard wo can conjure up resources and golems to work as teachers and healthcare providers at no cost whatsoever, there is no such thing as "free college" or "free healthcare".

That is a fact, not a political opinion.

>>59958542
No economic conservative can refute the simple fact that most technologically advanced economies will have greater and greater welfare states simply due to automation creating a large class of people who are permanently un/underemployed.

Neets are the canaries in the coal mine that is the modern economy. No amount of "muh free market" will fix this problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

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>>59958482
He mentioned 90%. That's all I honestly need to know. He is a communist Jew and he will never be in my white house. That is for Trump and Trump only.

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>>59956782
my body is ready to pay for these "free" educations of illegals who dont pay tax anyway

fucking hate getting gum on my pants

>>59959163
so the solution is to steal other peoples money to keep dumb fucks alive? guess what, faggot. if your job is so menial that it can be accomplished by a machine, you dont deserve to live in the greatest country on earth

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>>59956782
>implying it will make any goddamn sense
>implying he could ever beat Hillary even if it did
>implying Trump wouldn't beat Sanders in a landslide even if he DID get nominated
>implying you aren't a fag

>>59959355
Whine all you wish, the nation in which you live is not going let 15 to 40 percent of it's population starve.

A universal income of some sort is inevitable and there isn't anything you can do to change that.

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>>59957007
>Go to work making 90k annually
>Take home is only 25k
>You live in absolute squalor
>You can't afford anything outside of basic necessities
>You live in a building filled with people that don't work at all, whom have better standard of living than yourself.
>They don't work, so they have more free time to pursue personal hobbies, exercise, have friends etc... all on your dime
>Everything is provided for them, housing, clothing, food, electronics, medical care, transportation, etc.
>You die young due to depression, being overworked, lack of exercise, and a lack of basic medical care (that you unfortunately make too much to receive - your before tax salary is considered for enrollment)
>During your funeral, your small apartment is broken into & robbed of the few possessions that you could call "luxury," by the people you supported with your 70% tax rate
>Your name is only remembered as a number as political economists try to explain the low worker involvement and the diminishing tax base as America slips into 2nd world status to 3rd world status, to finally civil war.

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>>59956782
95% taxes rate on the middle-class? Oh this going to be classic.

>>59959355
>so the solution is to steal other peoples money to keep dumb fucks alive?

Pretty much. Either that or you have a revolution and all sorts of executions and confiscation.

>>59956782
I'd love to see this

He's going to want to pave roads with gold

>>59959497
youre a special kind of stupid, are you? whos going to pay for this universal income if nobody's working? who's going to pay for those excellent machines that can do everything better than a human being? youre not making any sense. 100% of the population would starve to death before that system can work effectively

>finally work my way up to getting over $250,000 a year
>Bernie is going to tax me 90%
>now obtaining poverty pay while doing accounting that most people can't do
>Carlos who does my lawn now makes more than me mowing yards and his kids get free tuition
Why do I want Bernie again?

>>59959497
This is how it will go down.
>>59959498

I live in Commiefornia, this is already a reality here. I see the writing on the wall. This is how things will end. Why do you think they want our guns so badly?

>>59957096
>>59957285
>>59958482
Oh no, his supporters are so brainwashed they still think everything is free

>>59958681
>>59958962
>>59959160
You think they would understand it if they did read it?

>>59959758
Huh? I didn't say everyone would be unemployed and neither did the guy in that video, and I hate to break this to you but a lot of the machines have already been made, and the next generation of said machines will be even cheaper.

>>59959759
>accountant
>things most people cant do
kek, your job could be replaced by a computer, accounting is no more complicated than flipping burgers.

if you were an engineer or doctor then youd have my sympathy.

>>59959923
Accountants make use of tax code and have to spend a lot of time justifying their deductions to the IRS.

It's not an easy job. I'm not an accountant before you give me some top bantz. I'm a software engineer.

>>59959923
yeah anyone care about your sympathy, shoot yourself

How does anyone support this looney toon?
I have 3 friends on Facebook that constantly shill about him: one girl that got a toilet paper degree and travels on her parents money, one guy who's never had a job in his mind and is the most stereotypical redditor, and one guy who tries to "debate" everyone through Facebook comments while acting pseudo -intellectual

>>59959923
>replaced by a computer
>accountant

Think carefully a moment. Do you think an accountant;

a) does accounts
b) swindles the tax man (amongst others) for payment

Think really carefully, because giving one of these answers will mean you are a fucking spectacular imbecile.

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>>59956909
>Executive orders

Hows that working with Obama in office?

>>59960109
Girls need toilet paper to wipe their bleeding... whatevers... with.

>>59960109
Because they are parasites whom live off of their parent's money, and they don't understand why others must live in poverty, when they could just as easily live off of everyone else's money.

They have been told that they are special, that they are unique, and that the world values them by their parents. However, they've lied and have been lying for far too long. They need to admit to their children that they are disappointments, that the fact that they are unable to support themselves angers them. The only reason they continue do so, is by a knee-jerk reaction to continue their bloodline.

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>How will you pay for all these programs?
We're going to increase taxes on large corporations to 35%

>What's to stop those corporations from moving their headquarters to a country where corporate taxes are far lower, and continuing to do business in America?
We won't let them.

>How will you prevent them from moving their companies overseas?
We'll make it illegal.

>How will you, as President, draft a law?
It'll be an executive order.

>That's not how executive orders work.
OH MY GOD just STOP, why don't you want to tax THE 1% you're nothing but a CORPORATE SHILL! REPUBLITARDS BTFO! FEEL THE BERN! BTFOOOOOOOOOO

>>59960109
Because we have a growing number of people who will never be able to contribute to the economy in a meaningful way, and the simple reality of the matter is that those people will vote for the candidate that they think best represents their interests.

>>59960392
They will fast track secession and the greatest white flight that this country will ever see.

>>59960345
Sadly the reddit incarnate is an acceptance of mine and graduated with a good paying job, yet he still shills Sanders.

>>59960283
>EOs are nulled as soon as sitting president leaves
And even then
>implying Bernie has the balls to declare himself dictator and basically scrap the entire Constitution
I wish a kike would. It would destroy the Dems forever. Plus watching a sitting president get shot on live TV would be fun.

>>59960612
acquaintance *

>>59959864
so what if you didnt say it, its still going to happen. and, of course, you didnt consider the innevitable backlash it would entail. you think 50% of the population will agree to be replaced by a machine? also not considering the unions who are as powerful as the government. complete automation will never happen. when people get fed, they will retaliate. you cant replace human beings with machines and expect everyone to be cool with it.

>>59960493
>>59960392
States that are self-sufficient and don't rely on Federal tax dollars *cough* Texas *cough* will secede, by force, and they will promise to only charge the original state tax.

Every high tech industry, every high tech worker, etc will flock to Texas. This will make housing unaffordable for the poor minorities in Texas and they will be forced out of the state back into Federal US Territories. Bringing more people in that are self-sufficient will lower the tax rate, almost completely eliminating all social welfare systems in the state.

The state will become a power house, other right-wing states will want to emulate Texas. Workers & industry will flock to those states for the lower price of housing. Texas will make interstate agreements with these remaining bastions of freedom and capitalism. These states will eventually be pulled into confederate union.

The rest of America will slowly corrode into a 3rd world shit hole, incapable of keeping the lights on. The US govt will have lost most of it's military might to the last free states that are now economic powerhouses, containing 90% of the US's previous wealth.

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BERNIE HAS WON THE ELECTION

GET BTFO /POL/!!!

>>59961245
>people
nope

>>59958482
>right-wing shilling
no such thing

>>59961245
Fucking swindler jew

>>59961245
>i would prefer we could respect the law of the land and the Balance of Powers but for some reason the other side doesn't agree with me so fuck it, let's just go full dictator mode
>vote for me 2016

why not just go 100 trillion in debt? what different does it make?

#bern

>>59961245

>Dems are seriously gonna run 2016 on guns

Literally any GOP candidate can win now

>>59961245
>reporters name is literally Schulberg
Why do kikes always back eachother up /pol/?

>>59956782
>sanders promises
>jew promises
nice try kike.

>>59956782
calling it now its some absurd number like 75% tax bracket straight across the board or something with the poorest of americans paying virtually zero tax

>>59961690
Could possibly be Bernie, knowing he's not going to get the nom, and Obama sinking the party just to spite Hillary. Obama is very prideful and he hates Clinton due to the 2008 elections.

>>59961810
>>59959498
Our future anons, if Trump or Cruz do not win.

>>59959163
This wouldn't be a problem if immigration hadn't been pushed as a solution to diminishing native population. Automation and population diminishment go hand in hand, and we could have had a real paradise for those remaining. When robots take over the economy, which place do you think will be better: Japan, a safe, selt-reliant nation with low(er) population density or the USA, a bloated, crime-ridden welfare state filled with unemployed niggers?

>>59956909
sssshhhh liberals dont know how the government works they think we elect a defacto king/dictator every 4 years

>>59961245

He just killed his campaign in my eyes

>>59961690

What else do they have? Feminism is a nuclear grade issue now that they don't want to touch, and they already got a black president, free weed is coming. Gotta harp about something.

>>59959923
>hurr durr accountants can be replaced by computers

Confirmed for not knowing anything about accounting. You're a fucking moron.

t. BBA, MPA holder from the #1 accounting program in the world

>>59956909
>ignoring Republican did just give them everything they wanted

Your trust is blind my friend.

>>59962479
So a bunch of neocons are suddenly gonna turn socialist because a 70 yr old Jew who cries when people pick on him told them to. That would completely lift the veil off the 2 party system as a democracy.

>>59962349
Who needs an accountant when you can just get a spreadsheet to do all the work for you at a fraction of the price

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commie

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>>59962753
bigot

>>59963146
Something about his face, I just want to hit it.

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>>59963146
Don't worry Bernie I got your back. I was out of spinach and Viagra so I brought this to pump you back up.

>>59962736
That's not how it works

I can already see this
Bernie tax plan
>so guys
>here is the plan
>we go get the rich top1%
>then we tax them at the rate of 90%
>and now no one else have to pay anything!
>"But Bernie, if we tax them at 90% they are just going to move their companies to other countries (like most of the biggest ones already did)"
>but...
>then who is going to pay for all this "free" shit?..

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>>59960109
>one girl that got a toilet paper degree and travels on her parents money

Literally every Bernie supporter, ever.
The sad thing is that lots of these kids will never have to eat shit, experience competition, or have to work an iota of real work before being handed some kind of academia position or being handed inheritance.

Mind you, these are never the "mega rich". They are the upper-middle class (thinking $150,000 USD to 450,000 per year) kind of kiddos. They're the first to pontificate about the virtues of education and hard work, whist never having experienced either, and they'll inevitably be on the second-from-top rungs of societal control someday.

>>59962258
I personally know a few army fags that are pro Sanders, would love to see what they would say about him after seeing this.

>>59956782
We already know the plan is to tax the top one hundredth of the top fifth of the top third of the top thousandth of the top tenth of the top half of the 99%

>>59956909

>still thinking there still is republican leway in elections

luckily the youth vote will get rid of all of the repubs

>>59959498
t-thanks bernie

>>59961245
way to backstab the fuck out of vermont you stupid fucker

>>59964449
>They're the first to pontificate about the virtues of education and hard work, whist never having experienced either

I think the word you're looking for is dilettante.

>>59959923
Both engineers and doctors can be replaced by robots, given sufficiently advanced AI.

No job is safe from being made obsolete. With advanced enough AI, computers and robots can do everything from driving, saving lives, self replicating, and even learning to write continually more advanced and efficient software.

One day, probably far in the future, we'll hit a crisis point. Machines will replace the need for humans. At this point we'll either need to consciously regress our technological progress to keep jobs open for humans, or decided that humans are only to be kept around for their own pleasure. If we choose the latter option, eugenics will come back in full swing and only a very select few humans will be alive on earth at any one time.

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>>59956782
>Le tax 0.01%

>>59956782
He's an ok goy

>>59961245

Bernie fucked up big. Americans don't want any more gun laws, every day thousands of new gun owners are created yet murders still keep trending downwards. This is a shitty move.

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>>59966479
>murders still keep trending downwards

Read a fucking newspaper

>>59956782
id like to see it

i assume it will include his "trading tax" which makes no sense

>>59966595
Reactionary argument
Just because gun murders are overexposed in the media doesn't mean the rates are not falling.

>>59966595

>Newspapers

I don't need the media to tell me how to think, I'll go right to the source.

>In 2013, the estimated number of murders in the nation was 14,196. This was a 4.4 percent decrease from the 2012 estimate, a 7.8 percent decrease from the 2009 figure, and a 12.1 percent drop from the number in 2004.

t. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/murder-topic-page/murdermain_final#disablemobile

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Trump owning poor little Jeb!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tGw0njfSvOo

Trump destroying Bernie Sanders in Iowa!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PNmgZW70kgQ

>>59966950
Ivanka destroying my dick

>>59966889

>2013
Nigger please.

>>59966085

>no job is safe from automation

Attorneys in an adversarial common law system :)

Also soldiers and police, most likely.

>>59957007
This.

Sanders will try to kill the bourgeoisie so the ungrateful, "hard worker" lower class will grow bigger and stronger. Who will be left to pay taxes when the bourgeoisie will account for less than 10% of the population. It doesn't matter.

How do we fix our country? I have some ideas but I doubt they'll ever be put into place

Make the rich and corporations actually pay the taxes they are already SUPPOSED to
Reduce bloated military spending, make it more efficient and stream lined
Reduce spending on government leeches, limit terms of welfare benefits (people legitimately spend their entire lives living off welfare and refuse to work)
Decriminalize possession of drugs in small amounts, make it a fineable offense thus increasing revenue without having to pay for housing inmates
Use tax revenue for government health insurance option introducing competition in the health insurance market that does not exist currently, education reform, job creation (infrastructure, green energy)

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>>59959498
Our future anon
>>59968312

>>59968185
Attorneys will be one of the first to go, since laws are a series of if/then logic gates.

>>59966085
>robots can create better art without any human intervention
So much for "every job"

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>>59966595

They are trending downwards. Newspapers are sensationalizing the few that are left precisely because they are rarer than ever before.

>>59956782
Um, like taking all my money and giving it to niggers and college SJW's is some kind of secret?

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>>59956782
Everyone is afraid of the Jeb of the democratic party

>>59966950

Holy shit that helicopter video is the funniest thing I've seen all day.

I am curious. I would potentially be a Sanders voter.

Too bad Nader quit after Bush II. He would have had a good shot this time

>>59959923
>>59959923
How dumb are you? You must have 0 education or you did some worthless degree in arts and other shits?

Also there is no need for an universal wage if you dont import migrants the declining population will make up for the jobs that are being automated

And despite automation a lot of NEW jobs will emerge in the future.

So stay mad cuck

Never trust a socialist. especially on taxes.

>Bernie is elected
>his reforms somehow don't get blocked
>America goes bankrupt
>his reforms get blocked
>the entire country is paralyzed for 4 years while china and Russia keep living their pieces on the board because they don't bother with silly democratic hypocrisy

The futur is bright

>>59960346
The business environment will become so hostile when you make regulations that outlaw moving the company out of the country that no new business will locate his headquarters in the US

Also the companies that currently are in the US have many possibilities :

1. Create a seperate entity with their US branch an relocate the rest of the activities in taxes safe heavens

2. Close their business and reopen overseas

3. Be bought by an oversee trust that doesnt have to abide by US regulations

...

Good luck mr cuck

>>59968541
We need Trump, Cruz or Paul. Right now.

>>59968841

>laws are if/then logic gates

No, they aren't. Live attorneys will exist as long as we have common law and a jury system. There is no way that people will trust their life to a machine in a court of law. It simply won't happen.

>>59957197
How did he get Gilbert Gottfried to play Bernie?

>>59957197
>doesn't have a plan to finance free college

Except he has the exact plan almost fully fleshed out publicized on his website. https://berniesanders.com/issues/its-time-to-make-college-tuition-free-and-debt-free/

>>59957197
>Let's take 90% from the top 10% of Americans.
Sanders has explicitly rejected this proposal.

>>59972831

and actually wants more than 90%

>>59973092
Source? Oh you don't have one? You just literally made it up?

>"Sanders has never explicitly proposed a 90 percent tax rate for billionaires, let alone applying that rate across the board.... We asked the Trump campaign how the GOP frontrunner knew what Sanders is proposing, but we didn’t hear back. However, he may be distorting comments Sanders made in May 2015 about the marginal tax rate for the very wealthy."
http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2015/oct/20/donald-trump/trump-bernie-sanders-wants-tax-everyone-90-percent/

>>59972831
So if he takes less, but still wants to pay for all that shit, it's even dumber.

>>59972370
That isn't a plan, those are talking points.

Plans involve specific numbers, which can be used in calculations to predict or demonstrate its revenue and effects. not just rhetoric that some activity need to be taxed.

>>59960283
Top kek

You can only act within the bounds of the current laws as president. Taxes are under the jurisdiction of the legislative branch

>>59959498
Soviet Union in a nutshell. Now I can vacation in Mexico.

>>59961245
>I stand with the people unless they don't agree in that case I support circumventing the people to do what I want
Lenin would be proud

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Bernie Sanders campaign aide here. Have a sneak peak at his tax plan.

>>59970453

lmao, you think companies will just pay americans more than they paid the mexicans once you kick the beaners out?

Nahbro

>>59975058
>pro-foreskin
>pro-Jew

>>59975162
There are cases in California of illegal workers being deported and the farmers that employed them straight up let the crops sit in the ground and rot because it would have been a bigger loss for them to hire expensive American workers to pick the crops then just letting them rot.

>>59975709
>knowingly hire illegals
>get caught
>illegals deported
>employer not being charged with a felony

Walls are nice, but this is the heart of the beast. Make it so that hiring illegals and getting caught is so devastating, its not worth the risk. If its a small business owner, arrest him and slap a felony on him. Take his time, his money, and his business. If its a corporate entity caught, carry as far up their food chain as you can. Fine the corporation for every higher up that knew and slap that higher up with a felony.

>>59973257
Good source, what else does Soros have to say in the subject?

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>>59959923
accountants are people who could have been engineers or scientists but realized that the endgame for both is making money, which is pretty reasonable dumbass, and thats comin from an engineering major

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>>59961690
And the fact that mudslimes are shooting Americans isn't a good reason to pass gun laws. But it's hilarious to watch them try.

>>59975709
Good. Fruits and vegetables are for hispters and vegans. All we need is rotein rich meat which is still profitable enough to be processed y american workers.

>>59960283
only congress can levy taxes.