I like guns and my right to have them. I have favorite firearms that I would like to purchase and can afford.
But I never get around to it because I wouldn't be able to practice, so it's a shitty investment. Don't want to go to the gun shop in the first place. Why would I want to go to a range to practice around the type of man who goes to ranges?
Few days ago a friend sat on his couch with his 10 y/o son. Middle of nowhere, small town outskirts. Good dad, good guy. 3 black men kicked in his door. Held him at gunpoint while they ran through his house. Weren't satisfied with what they found, so the killed him in front of his son
Confirmed noguns. If you ever fired a shotgun, you'd know that even birdshot has almost no dispersion at the ranges usually encountered in self defense situations. Pistol + hollow points, or even a carbine are the way to go.
>>53787977 You realize birdshot is shit for defense right and almost all of it has some flight control tech bullshit too. And what point of poorfag didnt you get? Shotguns are by far the cheapest to buy and have lesser restrictions than handguns in commie countries like california. You can get everything you need for really cheap. You can do the same for handguns but only if you fore go spare mags and any decent quality new guns and resort yo milsurp and chinese garbage like Hipoint or Jennings lmao and buy bulk FMJ reloads which are still more expensive than they are worth.
Fuck off with your richfag elitist attitudes, the pic is for no guns poorfags and like I said, handgun and rifle versions are coming soon
>>53788197 > spread doesn't matter when you're putting 4 marbles through a mans rib cage.
It does if none of those marbles land their mark. Way too many people think a shotgun will serve them better because the spread means they don't have to aim. It's much better to opt for a less unwieldy weapon that has nearly double the capacity of most of the shotguns posted in that guide.
>>53788197 New 9mm pistol for sub $250: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_1194/products_id/79096
Buy one used for less.
> Fuck off with your richfag elitist attitudes
I don't think those two go together.
> Shotguns are by far the cheapest to buy and have lesser restrictions than handguns in commie countries like california.
I live in said state, pic related. Anybody poor enough to not be able to scrap together the extra 70 dollars to buy a pistol likely doesn't have a car. And guess, what? You can't take long guns (rfles or shotguns) on public transit, but pistols are allowed.
Also, you have to stow your gun either in a safe, or otherwise with a breech or trigger lock. Good luck fumbling with the latter. The difference the size of the safe will more than make up the difference in cost.
>>53788845 Actually, faggot, you need a permit to carry a pistol, and if you don't have a car, you probably aren't rich or educated enough to get one from the city police. I fucking hate you faggots. You're why i'm saving my money, i'm like a time bomb just ticking away before i beat one of you autistic chinks into a coma
>>53786775 Nah, I'm Canadian and live where it's too cold for blacks and mexicans to invade. Would totally get one for a trip to the States though. The way you guys see Mexico right now is about the way we see some of your states like Florida.
>>53786775 MP shield 9mm for defense or shooting targets for fun >belli supernova shotgun for defense or hunting >6.8 ar for home defense or hunting Either one of my freedoms can be used to destroy or eliminate anything whether it be a human, animal, or an object.
>>53789517 No, I used to have a CPX and after around 300 rounds it keep failing to eject and stove piping. Spent almost 4 months with their shitty customer service to get it repaired or replaced, neither of which happened because they like to fuck people and claim user error based a stupid erroneous check list of shit that voids their "unconditional lifetime warranty" such as buying the gun used or firing reloads or failing to cleaning every 50 rounds LMAO
i don't own a gun but all i can say is keep it loaded.
>On March 27, 1985, Ramirez entered a home that he had burgled a year earlier in Whittier at approximately 2 a.m. and killed the sleeping Vincent Zazzara, age 64, with a gunshot to his head from a .22 caliber handgun. Zazzara's wife Maxine, age 44, was awakened by her husband's murder, and Ramirez beat her and bound her hands while demanding to know where her valuables were. While he ransacked the room, Maxine escaped her bonds and retrieved a shotgun from under the bed, which was not loaded. An infuriated Ramirez shot her three times with the .22, then fetched a large carving knife from the kitchen. Her body was mutilated with multiple stab wounds, and her eyes were gouged out and placed in a jewelry box, which Ramirez left with.
>walk down wrong street at 1am >group of boons come-a-hollerin' >take out my fucking 6 shooter, hit 2 of them and miss the rest >now need to tell them to wait so I can reload >they find me headless and assraped next morning
>>53793107 Well the mistake is to think they're just like us. Which is inherently wrong for 1 reason, they're cucks and we're not. They have a long history of being cuckolded, whether you're talking about being governed by some homo royalty prince or invaded by foreign militaries they only know a life of cuckolding. So remember just like we have a strong gun culture as part of our national odd fly they have a strong cuck culture as part of theirs.
>>53792564 >As a child, Ramirez sustained two serious head injuries. When he was two years old a dresser fell on top of him, causing a forehead laceration requiring thirty stitches to close. When he was five years old he was knocked unconscious by a swing at a park, after which he experienced frequent epileptic seizures that persisted into his early teens. As a twelve-year-old he was strongly influenced by his older cousin, Miguel ("Mike") Ramirez, a decorated U.S. Army Green Beret combat veteran who often boasted of his gruesome exploits during the Vietnam War. He shared Polaroid photos of his victims, including Vietnamese women he had raped. In some of the photos Mike posed with the severed head of a woman he had abused. Ramirez, who had smoked marijuana since the age of ten, bonded with Mike over many joints and gory war stories. Mike taught his young cousin some of his military skills, such as killing with stealth and surety. Around this time, Ramirez began to seek escape from his father's violent temper by sleeping in a local cemetery.
>"Richie", as he was known to his family, was present when Mike shot his wife, Jessie, in the face with a .38 caliber revolver during a domestic argument on May 4, 1973, killing her. After the shooting Richie became sullen and withdrawn from his family and peers. Later that year, he moved in with his older sister Ruth and her husband, Roberto, an obsessive "peeping Tom" who took Richie along on his nocturnal exploits. He began using LSD and cultivated an interest in Satanism. Mike Ramirez was found not guilty of Jessie's murder by reason of insanity (with his combat record as a mitigating factor), and was released in 1977 after four years of incarceration at the Texas State Mental Hospital. His influence over Richard continued.
>>53793178 You sound like some faggot that gets on Facebook and complains about Americans because you're sooo enlightened. What do you care about our guns? Leave us alone. We are nothing like you and your cultural ideas don't fit into our society.
>>53793243 Ok, this is an argument. I was referring to the States with my statement. It's all about the culture of course. In Switzerland, no one carries a loaded a gun around or even has it loaded at his home. There are a lot of guns in Switzerland, but most of them is the rifle they get from the army. And this is pretty often anywhere in the darkest corner of any closet in the basement. I am from Switzerland and my father as well as my grandfather had guns. But they never made a big deal out of it, like they do in the States. So, yeah, it's a cultural thing. Would be interesting to do research about that topic. Sorry for my shitty English, but I hope you got my point.
>>53793263 >they're cucks and we're not >Americuckistan is the feminist and SJW capital of the world >while also being over run with dindus and mexicans >non of these problem groups are being shot despite clapfats constantly claiming they just shoot all their problems
>>53793319 >On July 20, 1985, Ramirez purchased a machete before driving a stolen Toyota to Glendale. He chose the home of Lela Kneiding, 66 and her husband Maxon, 68. He burst into the sleeping couple's bedroom and hacked them with the machete, then killed them with shots to the head from a .22 caliber handgun. He further mutilated their bodies with the machete before robbing the house of valuables.
>After quickly fencing the stolen items from the Kneidling residence, he drove to Sun Valley. At approximately 4:15 am, he broke into the home of the Khovananth family. He murdered Chainarong Khovananth, by shooting the sleeping man in the head with a .25 caliber handgun, killing him instantly. He then repeatedly raped Somkid Khovananth, beating and sodomizing her. He bound the couple's terrified eight-year-old son before dragging Somkid around the house to reveal the location of any valuable items, which he stole. During his assault he demanded that she "swear to Satan" that she was not hiding any money from him.
seriously keep a loaded gun where you sleep and install a metal gate. look around your driveway before pulling in after coming home so you don't get shot.
>>53793469 >remember the 1400 >bin that knife >prison time for tweets >shariah law It's funny because none of those things are actually a problem in the real world only on the Internet. But in England these things have real consequences.
>>53793495 I mean, it's like saying people who buy sugar are more likely to get fat. Yeah, of course they are. It takes a responsible person to be able to maintain a gun without shooting themselves or someone unintentionally.
Does this mean we should just throw away our guns? That's of course up for debate. I personally don't think we should, just because areas more inclined to gun violence are portraying the whole of US as bad. I don't hear gunshots ever in my area. I've only known one person who had a family member shoot themself.
And even if we did come to the consensus that guns are bad and we should get rid of them, how are you going to disarm criminals? How are you going to then protect people who have disarmed themselves, and are now under attack from criminals with guns? We're in this business far over our heads now to just take it all back.
>>53793164 >more likely to die of firearm homicide with a gun in the home Maybe because a lot of people that own guns live in dangerous areas, whereas people who don't live in safe areas?
>more likely to kill yourself with a gun if you own a gun You're also more likely to get in a car accident if you own a car. You going to swallow a bottle of pills or jump in front of a truck instead? Come the fuck on, you should be smarter than this.
>>53786775 >Does /pol/ own a gun for self defense? No I own mine to post pictures of on the chans to make poorfags and yuropoors jelly. Funny how everyone ITT posts pictures of other peoples guns including you OP
>>53793620 Thanks. First real based argument from an American. I get your point. But I wanna tell you my opinion about it. Of course, there are a lot of guns in America, and of course its a problem to disarm all criminals and private gun owners. And it will probably take decades, if not even longer. BUT! Due to this fact, it is, in my opinion, better to start with disarming NOW than tomorrow. Or do you want just not to start with it, because it is difficult and will take a long time?
I really want to take a moment and applaud this infographic. It provides far more of an argument for gun ownership/rights than the usual mindlesss MUH FREEDUHMS babblings do here.
I've long not had a gun for self-defense as I live in an extremely low-crime (like, one reported break-in in 27 years) uppper middle class white non-walkable neighborhood so don't own a gun, and I don't really look to it as a hobby but this infographic is fantastic AND informative to the point of making me want to go out and get a gun.
>>53793834 I dont want to start it because its a dumb idea. actual EVIDENCE shows that there is ZERO correlation between guns and crime rates, or violence rates. People in the UK cant have barbed wire fences because a robber might scrape himself... seriously... the US is one of the last countries who hasnt lost its mind.
>>53793834 Disarming will require more than just destroying the second amendment. You really have to fuck up the constitution in order to do such a thing and if you start fucking up the constitution other states in the union who made it a contractual agreement to only be in the union as long as the constitution is followed will start falling out. And before you know it civil war will happen and this one won't be a war that the Feds can win. Now my question to you is why are eurocucks so hot for disarming america? What the fuck do you guys care about it so much?
Of course the chances of actually needing a gun for self defense are very small. Close to 1/1000. However, buying guns for self defense is a great excuse to buy guns! Here in America we love guns and we use any excuse we can to get more guns!
Hmmm Maybe I should get another 9mm for on top of the refrigerator...
>>53793834 You're talking about multiplying the number of gun deaths by criminals because you want to get rid of guns. Trafficking is a huge problem, don't you think someone's just going to buy a gun from mexico if they want to shoot someone?
You will never get rid of guns in the USA. There's just too much land to cover for that to happen.
>>53793978 >Insulting That's what people with no based arguments do. Own-goal.
>>53793961 True with the market. That is why it will take so long. You cant get a change in society until tomorrow. But if the change happens, there is no market anymore.
>>53793977 First: Show me that evidence. I cant believe that. Second: Maybe there is no relation because in your country, there is that stand the ground bullshit. So you can just shoot anyone who just puts half of his foot on your ground and it will not get rated as a crime.
Just for you to think about it: Why are other societies with stricted gun laws most likely to be more peaceful than yours?
>tfw poor >tfw family absolutely hates guns >tfw only brother have rifles and family looks at him like he's crazy I just want a pistol, it's worth having one just because of protection but hard to tell people how many vile human beings are out there for some reason.
Also non decent pistols starting from ridiculous prices in here, wish I was an American.
Your laws are fucking retarded >or our society Yes, yes we do. You're a bunch of fucking babies. Never will to accept responsibility for your actions. No matter the political stance, or belief. You're all fucking retarded. Ameri/pol/ is about the worst thing about /pol/. Sometime I check /pol/ during my lunch hours and you faggots make the worst fucking threads and discussions ever.
>>53794394 not going to mention the evidence I provided your unfounded opinion with? I didnt think you would. Its a bias and you wont change your opinion even though you can literally read factual science that you are wrong. Tomorrow you will come back and post about how guns equal murder and keep spouting your incoherent bullshit, even though you were just proven to be completely wrong...
>>53794547 Pls I'm not a K*rd. Also I do wish our society was bit more like yours, at least more people having rifles and such for possible government tyranny but it's a lost cause since army and society is interwoven in Turkey and what you do is always with army. Thats why I don't think having rifle is that great, but pistol might come in handy.
>>53794682 >If we're so dumb then why aren't you in power? You're still riding previous generations power. Do you honestly not feel the constant fall from power year over year? In 10 years the US will be a 3rd world country.
>>53794715 Yeah but government makes it almost impossible to get it and costs waaay too much, I could get it illegally, and in some places it's overlooked, but like I said I don't need that amount of gun power. I can't carry it around or even reliably find ammo for it.
Not that pistols are much cheaper but at least you won't get in trouble for legally owning one. Tho selection is really limited, you can get a glock tho, for a lot of money.
>>53786775 My only gun is a Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle in 7.62x54r. It is a very powerful round, and the bullets are copper jacketed. I live in an apartment. If I use it for self defense, I will most likely kill a neighbor. So my intention is to use it for intimidation, and the bayonet for actual defense.
If you are close enough to them your chances of beating the shit out of a guy with a gun are very good. You can usually hit them before they shoot you. But if you are too far away they will blow you apart. That's why cops like to shoot attackers when they are like 20 feet away. So your problem is getting close enough to them before they shot you.
I've already posted some research that confirms my opinion. So who is right now?
Anyway, I already said that it is also a cultural problem, not just about the laws. And I said that this is the reason why it will take so long for a change. This is also the reason why a country like Switzerland has still a low homicide. And because of this, it is bullshit to compare different countries. Much rather it is important to compare people from the same area - gun owners vs. non gun owners. This is what they did in the sources I've posted. To sum up: Your source totally misses out the cultural perspective.
Since you Americans seem to not be able to handle guns with care, you need a stricter gun law obviously. And by this stricter gun law, hopefully the cultural value of guns decreases.
>>53794435 Serious answer? In the first place, you say stricter gun laws will force a civil war? Thats hilarious. And why do I care about Americas gun laws? Because I dont like people get shot, no matter what nationality they have.
And your second post was bullshit. Btw, your second respond was obviously bait.
Oh yes always keep your guns really handy! I have a 9mm and .223 here on my desk. If anything really bad goes down the police even when they get here are just going to be outside hiding behind there cars until I call them and tell them that the guy is dead and I stopped shooting and they can come in now. No normal cop is going to run into a gun fight to save me. They will wait outside for like 12 hours until everyone is dead and it is real safe for them to come in. Police very very rarely stop a crime in progress that does not directly involve them.
And quite honestly if I am shooting at someone I don't want the police to be nearby since they would only make things worse. They might shoot towards me or me towards them and then it would really go to hell fast.
>>53796169 I don't really know how it is there in the USA, but here there's certainly not police everywhere, nor SWAT interventions for everything, any police response here takes minutes at best.
And where I live, I just can't trust on the police to come and save me. You do what you want, but I value my life more than others'. I'll keep carrying my gun and feeling safer. And you keep being cucked out of your own protection.
When a crime happens, try screaming police, see how they help you.
>>53787977 Buckshot with large shells is a little like unloading a 9mm handgun into someone. It's also by far the legally safest gun to use and easiest to acquire. Shotguns are also far more versatile - I challenge you to find a singular handgun that can put down buck, bird, and human with equal efficiency. Shotgun ammo is cheap, shotguns are cheap, and shotguns are sexy as fuck.
There's also something about the not inconsiderable sound of a pump action that makes nigs freeze in their tracks.
Lots and lots of people have shotguns for home defense. They work very well.
My rule is to always use the gun you want to use since you know it the best. In my case I am really not so good with a shotgun but me and that .223 can stop anything. The 9mm is super nice too but it can't go through walls* and really do the same shit load of damage as the rifle.
*In my case shooting through walls is a nice option.
>>53797312 >How many times have you used your gun in self-defense? Hundreds of thousands of defensive gun uses happen in the US every year. Even anti-gun advocates admit to as low as 60,000 uses per year, and that's considered a laughably low-ball estimate.
>>53794651 >if people where like this back during the revolution there would be no United States of America. Less than a third of Americans actually supported revolution, and less than a tenth thought.
Do you know what even 1% of American gun owners would do?
Here in Australia you require a "genuine need" for a firearms licence. The H extension (handgun) is VERY hard to get. You need to be in a shooting club and take part in matches.
I have a Glock 17 gen 4. I wanted a glock 22 (police issued here) but the club didn't want to recommend me for that until I was proficient with the 9mm (I only recently got my H extension). I might try in a few years. I don't know if the police will approve it or not.
As a result, I have a handgun at home. Even though self defence is not a genuine need to OWN it, you CAN use it for self defence if it's reasonable in the circumstances. If a guy comes in with a knife and runs at you, you're perfectly entitled the shoot (straight from the mouth of a police officer). But a usual burglar, you will get in big trouble if you shoot them. You can confront them with the gun though.
Also, a lawyer friend of mine said to take a jury trial, since jurys are reluctant to convict in cases of self defence.
Getting the licence here is a pain, but it's not impossible.
>>53797737 I suspect if you had a point, you'd have made it by now.
>Austria Maybe living in a country without niggers has softened you, because nobody in a country with niggers would say something as monumentally fucking stupid as >>53797688 >Are threats of violence the only way you are able to express yourself? Exactly what way do you expect me to "express myself" to people who force their way into my home to take what's mine and hurt what I care about?
>>53797872 >How many times has someone broken into your house? Three times, if you count the one I scared off when he tried to break my door down.
The first time, an urban youth broke in while I was asleep and ran off when I surprised him.
The second time I wasn't home, and another urban youth stole quite a few things and shot my dog. That one was caught when he pawned my phone without wiping it though. That's when I got into gun ownership.
The third time I heard someone fucking with my front door and pointed a shotgun through the window at him.
>>53797885 >AUG The funny thing is I'm allowed to own one and you aren't.
>>53797972 >Maybe you should invest in better doors and an alarm system. Maybe I should move to an area that isn't total shit. I put bars over my windows and installed a new deadbolt, but I don't have enough money for a real alarm system. If I had enough money for an alarm and security system I'd probably just put it towards moving somewhere else.
>>53797941 Just admit that once you allow a government to take away the citizens right to carry arms, you are than obliged to abide by whatever the government tells you. You have no power. You are cucked.
I need to register for Firearm Safety Course for Restricted and Non-Restricted weapons. Then I have to get two people who have known me for more than 5 years to be my guarantors. It's bullshit tbh. I dont expect to get a weapon until at least spring.
>>53798313 see>>53797810 >Maybe living in a country without niggers has softened you, because nobody in a country with niggers would say something as monumentally fucking stupid as >>53797688 >>Are threats of violence the only way you are able to express yourself? >Exactly what way do you expect me to "express myself" to people who force their way into my home to take what's mine and hurt what I care about?
I don't live in a bad neighborhood prone to burglaries. I take reasonable precautions to safeguard my residence, such as locking doors and windows and hiding valuables. I also don't make myself a target of robbery or violence in a crowd, such as waving money or expensive items around. I don't go into bad neighborhoods or parts of town that are likely to put me into confrontation. I don't have any masturbatory dreams of being a John Wayne like cowboy and whipping out my gun and stopping armed criminals. I am an excellent shot with handguns and rifles, but, in cases such as a school or movie theater shooting, the thought of accidentally shooting an innocent person or being mistaken for the criminal by thr police seems like a much more likely scenario. I havn't been attacked or mugged in 35 years of existence so I don't really feel an imaginary desperation to protect myself. I seen guns as tools not as toys, so I have no passive interest in them as a hobby. Thet are/can be expensive, and I'd rather save my money for other things that I have an active interest in.
CRIME HAS BEEN ABOLISHED!!! BOW DOWN TO YOUR LOCAL AUTHORITIES AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE AND FUTURE SERVICE TO COME!!! SURELY THEY WILL CONTINUE TO PROTECT EVERYONE FAIRLY AND EQUALLY!!
>Just keep clinging to those straws fatman.
I'm 6'1'', weigh 190 pounds, and an electrical engineer that makes 80k a year. Meanwhile you're an unproductive and skilless eurouck (and probably a manlet) who's solely supported by your shitty government and fairy-tale views of the real world. Keep shitposting though, please
I have guns and do like guns but I have not used any of my guns in self defense. My ex-girlfriend did use one of them in self defense, though. On a 300 lb nigger that busted down the door while I was at work. She didn't fire but he turned and ran like she did. I do not think any female short of Rhonda Rousey would have made him turn if she didn't have a deliberate weapon in her hands and specifically a noncontact one. That gun is now hers. She has not used it since then but has successfully used pepper spray twice in that time. I have been proud in each case.
I personally don't keep firearms for defense at this point because I do not need to (I have a few antique guns still and would like a shotgun for skeet and "just in case" but it is about fifth in priority as far as "expensive toys" are concerned). I do keep a fistload in my truck because I work in an industrial area overnight and I often have to make stops that can be somewhat dangerous so it is a great comfort in case I have to pull over for gas or groceries or what have you. I feel a pistol on my person would be overkill generally plus issues with legalities at work. I am not opposed to carrying a firearm if I am in fear for my life, the law can suck a dick with their permission slip nonsense.
>>53798585 >>53798482 The idea of gun ownership as an enjoyable hobby is baffling to most eurocucks. They don't get the sheer joy of having an arsenal, enough guns to go to a range or an empty lot with a bunch of bros and shoot shit while shooting the shit, everyone eagerly swapping guns with one another and firing a large variety of firearms, from semiautomatic military-ish rifles like AKs and ARs to automatic shotguns and revolvers and pistols and all sorts of shit they're not allowed to have.
>>53798348 Lol, you are just too retarded to get it.
Anyway, you Americunts are so funny. You say all the time you need that shit for self defense and whatever, because so much niggers, so much crime. But instead of tackling the problem by its roots, you just buy more guns and make it even worse. Just ridiculous.
>>53786775 I have 2 shot guns and a 303, I guess they could be for home protection, but I also have 4 nearly 100lb dogs, they would probably rip the shit out of anyone meaning harm before I could get a shot off
im just going to post gun owner stories from australia
>Be 9am on saturday morning >about to go on morning run with my wife >doorbell >cops >"we're here for random safe and firearm check" >remember i hadn't bolted my new safe to the wall >shitshitshit >"um..im just about to go out jogging...my wifes got something on in an hour so we're really time strapped can you come back" >wife: "no i don't they can come in now" >SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT >"no seriously remember that class you've got, plus i've got work i've got to do" >cops: "that's alright, we'll come in an hour" >"wife: well at least we can go for our r-" >get in car >go to bunning >obtain bolts >make it back with 10 mins to spare
>>53798707 1. It just reflects a period of 10 years. Ever thought about the long run? Dont think so, cause you're a typical americunt - so thinking logical is not one of your strengths. 2. It's just for California 3. It doesnt reflect other factors. Google "causal relationship"
guns don't cause crime, niggers do. Crime rate has no correlation in the US with gun ownership by state or county, but is very strongly correlated with majority-black and majority-hispanic populations.
>>53798817 >meanwhile rural areas with high gun ownership and white populations are totally NOT the safest places in the country Pretty safe around my part of the woods, I take it you are being sarcastic, I'm to drunk/hungover interpret your pic
>>53798930 The sad thing is, she's a lawyer. I would have though bullshit detection was in her blood.
>be driving back from shooting club >pulled over for speeding >cop asks if i've had anything to drink, I said no because I've just come back from shooting >he presumes I mean shooting up drugs... >Drug tested >I say no that's not the shooting I mean, show him licence >tell him i was speeding since I like to minimise time on the road with them >mfw he escorts me home and lets me off, before examining the guns saying how he wants a licence himself
Gun sales in the US are at record high levels and there are starting to be shortages of guns. If this keeps up the UK and Australia might have to start up gun factories to keep Americans supplied with guns!
NICS background checks: June = 1.5 Million - New Record July = 1.6 Million - New Record August = 1.7 Million - New Record September = 1.8 Million - New Record
>>53799325 last year here in Canukistan somalian niggers accounted for about 90% of the gun related crime in Canada. There is about 40 000 in the Toronto area fucking shit up, they are basically animals. When the National Post pointed this out..das rassssict mang
>>53799519 Safe storage laws are the worst, but they're pretty easy to circumvent. Just leave one gun out for yourself, and if you ever have to use it, claim you had it on your person at the time. Not like they can prove otherwise and safe storage only covers STORAGE of guns - carrying it on your person in your property is perfectly legal.
>>53799528 Most violent crime in Euro countries comes from immigrants too. White Europeans would be perfectly fine with guns.
I'm starting to think all these European posters are muzzies trying to engage in psychological warfare... I mean, what other reason could there possibly be? They are trying to get us, the US, to hate our European brothers by posting inane nonsense under their flags, thereby robbing the true Europeans of their only ally and defense who is ACTUALLY capable of defending them. Why else would they shill SO HARD for nofunz?
>>53799636 Some of them are muslims (especially the wildly anti-jew posters), some are clearly just delusional leftists smacking up against cognitive dissonance whenever they face reality. Some are both.
>>53800012 >yeah because I want to have to unlock my safe, remove the barrel/bolt lock and then load it before I can bring it to defend myself? Those laws are fucking idiotic. Here in Canada you are not even supposed to store you ammo in the same room as your guns, it's fucking stupid and no one follows it
I have a LOT of ammo and I really want it stored in a fire safe place away from my guns and other important things in case there were ever to be a fire. But I do store smaller quantities of ammo inside all my guns :)
>>53800211 >really? even in britain we get to keep our ammo in our safe. Yeah man , you are expected to have a separate ammo safe, even for shotgun shells. It is borderline insane. It's not hard to get get a firearm here, but once you have some the regulations are crazy
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