What would be a reasonable age of consent?

This thread again?

>>43740270
Fetus sex is legal, they're not people!

>>43740270
25

>>43740270

for me, 16 sounds about right. Who created this effing magic number 18 in the first place?

>>43740284
That would be a pretty interesting experiment.

>>43740302
yeah, stopping people who are incapable of thinking from making dumb decisions could be a good thing.

You start to become less of an irrational child that needs constant guidance in your early to mid twenties when that pre-frontal cortex really kicks in.

A father is the custodian of his daughter's virginity, therefore it is up to him to wither take it himself or bequeath it to a suitable mate in return for cash or property.

This is the sole and absolute truth, all other posts hereinafter are void.

>>43740270
18

>>43740302
Women suffrage. Before that, it was common to marry underage girls.

>>43740270
20

>>43740270

The only really reasonable age of consent laws are those with decent brackets for similar age partners.

Any age is fine. Since sex ISNT primarily about reproduction. Sex doesn't always lead to children

And if you take that in a literal sense than I feel bad for you . Millions of people have sex every day and a child isn't the desired outcome

>>43740270
3

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>>43740270
16 in aus.

18 and all pedophiles should gassed as the lowest form of degeneracy.

>>43740327
Because changing the magic sex number will stop people from having it.

>>43740424
18 is still a child though

>>43740397
Why is it okay for a 16 year old to have sex with a 17 year old but not a 34 year old?

Either the 16 year old can consent to sex, or they cannot. Either it's rape or it isn't. Just because the sex makes you feel uncomfortable doesn't make it rape.

>>43740270
Same age when one can decide about his/her sex change operations.
Which is 6 according to liberals.

>>43740449
you're right we shouldn't have laws or restrictions at all because people don't obey them

why didn't i think of this, you new zealanders are so intelligent

12-13, by this time they have already hopped on the carousel and have ridden at least 20 dicks by the time they are 14.

>>43740270
Everyday with this. How old was your mom when she had OP? Age of consent should be over that.

>>43740463
get gassed pedo

the age of consent should be 12.

Girls on average hit puberty between their 12th and 13th birthdays. If they don't know enough about sex to make semi-rational decisions about what they do with their own bodies at 12 then they damn well should. It's not like I think it's a good idea for 12 year olds to have sex, but that doesn't change the fact that most of them want to and many of them will actually do it - this so called 'natural innocence' on which age of consent laws were based is fiction.

Sex is such a personal thing that I think the choice should always be left to the person whose body it is where possible, like consenting to medical procedures. I don't think the government has the right to tell even someone as young as 12 what they can legally do with their bodies or who they can do it with. As for age-gap laws, we might find it more creepy if a 12 year old is fucked by a 40 year old as opposed to an 18 year old, but objectively is 40 year old dick any worse for 12 year olds than 18 year old dick?

Yes, 12 year olds aren't adults, but they are considered old enough to be held criminally responsible when they break the law, unlike, say, 6 year olds - the law already recognises the distinction between children and adolescents, why can't the age-of-consent laws reflect this? This doesn't mean that teenagers under 18 should be able to do whatever the hell they want - if the parents of a 14 year old don't want her seeing a 30 year old then they're perfectly entitled to get a restraining order. But there's a difference between being arrested for violating a restraining order and being arrested for rape - parents are entitled to tell their children who they can and can't see if they feel it's necessary, but 30 year old who has sex with a 12 year old shouldn't be labelled a rapist, and imprisoned as such, for perfectly consensual sex.

>>43740463

It's not really about consent. It never has been. person can reasonably understand and consent to sexual activity at like, five. Not *really*, but than again some people in their 30's can't either. Everyone's different.

The laws about age of consent are about protecting people when they don't have personal agency in their society. An average 16 year old doesn't have a job, can't drive a car, doesn't have a car, lives with someone else, doesn't control said housing, is in school, etc etc. They don't have control of their own life. A 34 year old, generally, does.

Why do you think age of consent is so often close to the age people traditionally get jobs, or go to college/uni?

15-16
Like in Denmark

>>43740402
Kill yourself, degenerate

>>43740568
>doesn't have a job, can't drive a car, doesn't have a car, lives with someone else, doesn't control said housing, is in school, etc etc

You just described the lives of most people on 4chan. It's a good thing none of us can get laid, or else it'd be rape.

>>43740555
.RAR FLOG

>>43740612
#REKT but I guess he's talking about women and how special and incapable they are of their own actions.

>>43740555
>Alexander the great shitposting on /pol/

>>43740612

Laws can't realistically ever account for everyone. They have to deal with the average person, with some wiggle room for common abonormalities.

That said, most neets on 4chan can, theoretically, gain agency over their lives. There's nothing legally preventing them from doing so, and they're treated as adults under the law in all ways. A 16 year old isn't, and they have both restrictions and protections based on it.

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>>43740270
I'm not entirely sure there should be one. Since the modern idea of consent requires it to be constant throughout and can be withdrawn part way through.

You can say that a child doesn't know what they're getting themselves into if they consent to sex, so they shouldn't be able to. But they'll figure it out pretty fast and can back out if they don't like it. We accept that children make choices all the time, but when it comes to sex we pretend like they are incapable.

I guess there are things like STDs and stuff that a child wouldn't be aware of though. So they're taking risks they don't understand they're taking. But surely that's the case for many pursuits children are allowed to do. For example, becoming a child actor would have a profound impact on your later life the likes of which a child wouldn't fully understand.

>>43740270
We have it at 14 currently, tho recent polls have shown that average age kids become sexually active has dropped to somewhere between 12-13.
Hence, I vote for 12.

>>43740270
If it bleeds, it breeds.
Fuck the prepubescent-loving faggots though.

>>43740292
Its supposed to be the time when wisdom theet come out, concluding body development.

Yes, its that much bullshit.

>>43740568
how is this argument? >>43740558
specially the last past

>>43740270
30, since most people regret, because they are too dumb and fall into every trap, including sex changing trap.

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>>43740270
Laws will never be universally perfect, it depends on the circumstances and the overall concept how good of a result they might bring.
People just will reveal to you the age of the girls they would like to have sex with. Victoria Justice should be the age of consent.

>>43740292
Mainly it's interrelated with the entering of the work force, since the age of employment kept rising so did the age of consent.

''Concentrate on the school first sweety, after that you still will have enough time left to find your prince charming.''

I assume in Germany we stopped lifting when reaching the 14 mark.

18.
Before the age of 18, your parents/legal guardians should have the ultimate say if you are mature enough mentally to do something.

This should be applied for other things too besides just sex, such as voting and owning a firearm.

If you're 16 and want to vote for instance, and if your parents believe you are mature enough to make your own important decisions, they should be able to apply for a waiver for you to become a legal adult.

This is allowed if you're 17 and want to join the military, you need the parents consent. And this is how it should be for everything else as well.

>>43740568
>>43740721
I asked because I said 18 for reasons similar to yousr till I read this one >>43740558
he makes sense

Personally I think that fornication and adultery should be punishable by public stoning or branding, and that the age of marriage should be 13 for girls and 15 for boys.

>>43740729
but traps are cute

>>43740755
Wait...you're telling me the age of consent in Germany is 14?

>>43740424
Look pal, 90% of the humans that have lived on this world have had sex with underage. Were they all degenerates? Age of consent is a 20th century invention, and only in the west.

>>43740558
Interesting...I'd feel terrible to ask a 12yh out, tho.

>>43740788
Do you know any old traps? Not many around, either suicide or scared to go into public all fucked up like they are.

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>>43740791
Yes.
Its 14 with some additional limitations that virtually never come to use, emphasizing on you shouldn't quasi rape them up to the age of 16. But when you actually rape them I assume they will simply make it a rape case.

In the US the main reason why they hesitate to lower it might be teen pregnancies.

>>43740270
Why are betas so obsessed with fucking kids? There's plenty of women around your own age you can choose from.

>>43740849
So what?
You also can drink water instead of tea what's your point?

>>43740270
Would she be legal if she was sent to space and came back 50 years later with the same physical appearance due to relativistic effects?

>>43740270

MUUUUUUURRRRVVVEEEEE!!!!!!

>>43740845
same in Italy.

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The government has no business interfering in the choices of biologically mature individuals.

My personal opinion: If there is grass on the field, play ball.

>>43740849
says the country where the legal age of consent is fucking fifteen

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>>43740270

>>43740966
Age of consent is 16 in many US states.

I'm not sure the niggers of Asia have an age of consent at all.

14 with mandatory marriage if pregnant

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ATTENTION: pedophiles are spamming /pol/ with their bullshit, paste this in every pedothread

fact: pedophilia is a thoroughly left wing idea that arose during the "free love" movement of the 60s and 70s, liberals continue to support, protect and promote pedophilia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal#Alexis_Jay_inquiry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange#Allegations_against_Labour_politicians

fact: Pedophilia is associated with a lack of white brain matter which leads to poorer judgment and lower intelligence.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18039544

fact: There is an enormous amount of adult pornography available and adult escorts so there is little reason for someone to develop a fetish for adolescents in the first place. It is essentially an immoral choice even if they have poorer judgment.

fact: A 15 year old likely lacks experience and knowledge and cannot consent to sexual activity, even if there is only a 1% chance of them being psychologically harmed it is not worth it, 99 instances of sexual activity is not worth 1 instance of harming someone psychologically and possibly physically. In real life the chances are much higher than 1% of course.

fact: Adolescents are more likely to have complications during pregnancy, growth is not complete when puberty begins.

>snitching resources
http://tips.fbi.com
http://cybertip.ca
http://iwf.org.uk
http://www.stopitnow.org.uk/

>sage goes in the options field

>>43740818
I'm not saying it should be socially acceptable, I'm just saying that the law should be rational - the mark of a civilised society is that 'taboo' and 'illegal' are not the same things.

>>43741043
Rolf had sex with dumb shit groupies. He didnt have to ask if they were 18 or see their ID before doing what any musician/entertainer deserves to do when presented with prime pussy. There was no hard evidence other than the testimony of few washed up and broke groupies.

>>43740270
17

any age below 16 would be a deal breaker for me

Some people are so insecure about themselves they can't have a good time and get jealous when others do.

I was one of them.
Every single of my class was in love with me and several reasons kept me from getting into relationships with any of them.
When they started to date the guys 3 classes up I openely called them pedos and laughed into their blushing faces.

Later I got into porn and things in me surfaced I wouldn't have thought to be possible to ever occure.

I'm grateful for this experience, for life having me thrown into a seeing things from a different perspective.

>>43740558
Lolbertarian detected

>>43740423
read that as '16 in the anus'

>>43741043
>pedophilia is a thoroughly left wing idea that arose during the "free love" movement of the 60s and 70s
do you mean, like, year 60 AD, or...? because kid sex was around for a pretty long time

>>43740270
>>43740284
I agree with 25.

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>>43741043
Sexual attraction to adolescents is perfectly natural. Even though we know impregnation at that stage could cause complications, a man and woman that plan to mate should be able to become used to one another in a sexual and psychological manner before they start their family.

>>43741051
I see your point, thanks for your arguments.

18 if no condom

Any age if condom

>>43741051
I think the same.

>>43741043
Thanks for trying to prevent the population from learning common sense by reconditioning them into old schemes.

Maybe if you stopped looking at questionable materials, you wouldn't feel the need to debate this.

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>>43740284
>>43740392
>>43740729
>>43741109

This might be a good idea. Make people mature before they engage in sex. There's a lot more responsibility to carry than consuming alcohol and it would result in less single parent homes, less welfare, and a less screwed up society in general.

>>43741226
For what reason?
Does it hurt anyone?

>>43741241
This is just counter trolling.

13.

Most 13-14 year olds are having sex these days anyway. Might as well legalize it.

>>43741241
Less niggers would result in a nation wide decrease in single parents, welfare recipients, and "screwed up society".

A drastic amount actually.

11

Regards; muhamod the somalian muslim

>>43740568
>person can reasonably understand and consent to sexual activity at like, five

You are either a child rapist or a drooling moron. Come to think of it, those aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Just fucking tie it to the physiological condition of the kid's body, god dammit. Is it that hard?

>>43740558
i get where this guy is going.
>>43740555
>hurr durr insults will certainly convey my opinion the right way

>>43740270

I don't know but the person spamming cp in /sp/ right now would probably like it in the single figure range

>>>/sp/57941491

>>43741351
What if "pedophiles" just say they identify as teenage boys?

I think I've found an AoC loophole.

>>43740558
>>43741051

I'll add something else to these that is tangentially relevant.

The taboo surrounding teenage sex really has a lot to do with the fact that getting married and having children early is seen as archaic (and lower class), because of womens lib and women joining the workforce, etc, etc. Under the veneer of concern for teenage girls who have sex, and possibly kids, young, there is a large amount of snobbishness.

Ironically, it's really the women who wait until they're past thirty to get married because they want a career who're following the archaic system. 30 years ago women were expected to drop everything once they started a family, so the ones with aspirations married later so that they could get in some fun before they had to give it up.

Now it's more common for women to juggle both family and full time job, so what difference does it make when they get married? In fact, they're idiots for waiting until their thirties to start a family because they're handicapping themselves with young kids at just the point where their careers should be taking off (not to mention the fertility problems.)

If modern society was logical, women would get married at 14 or 15 (to a guy 21 or 22 who's just completed his bachelor's) and pop out two or three kids before they hit twenty (because it's a lot easier to get flexible schooling than it is to get flexible employment). Then, although they might enter the workforce two or three years after their male peers, their kids would be grown up enough to do without constant maternal supervision by the time they start getting serious with their careers.

If you were a thirty-four year old woman who's just got a promotion to manager, which would you prefer: a sixteen year old who can come home from school on her own, make her own dinner and (if you want to be optimistic) do her homework and chores by the time her mother gets home, or a one year old? Of course, logic is irrelevant here because lol pedos are evilz.

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>>43741316
This is a debate, not you trying to prevent people from having wild orgies.
Provide some reasoning instead of calling names.
Instead of helping people to heal you just rip new wounds into everyone.

>>43741351
I think the kids will have an increasing say in this, it is actually the dependance of the child that makes child molestation possible.
So it should be linked onto how independent and reasonable children are. Since we can whitness an increase in independence in purchasing decisions of children, the kids will also increasingly demand to decide about other aspects of their lifes.

Age of consent was 14 until some american pervert forced us to change it to 16

>>43741411
genius. if they don't allow it it's oppression.

>>43741411
"Identifying as X" doesn't work outside of america.

>>43741431
Increasing automation diminishes the relavancy of work and strengthens the relevancy of purchasing power in this.

>>43741431
I'm 22 and I still have no idea what to do after getting out of college
I don't think you should expect 16 year olds to decide whether they want kids in the first place

I kinda agree with your previous argument though
the part where kids want to have sex after puberty
and they should be treated differently from 6 year olds

14 years old is literally the optimal age for females, to deprive a man of 14 year old girls is inhumane and tyrannical

>>43740270
5 years

15.

>>43741631
Every single time I see an Indian flag popping up, I instantly start asking myself if people will tend towards opposing your point by default.

>>43741675
It's legal here and I still don't see myself experimenting with them anytime soon, besides from in virtual reality.
I would also feel icky, I know already since I had the same preassumption with prostitutes and it did happen.
It was empty and I felt devaluated afterwards.

A relationship that is strong (and socially acceptable, for the wider range of social interaction and situation it allows) always felt best.

>>43741431
12-14 year olds aren't capable of properly taking care of children and even if they did so, they would have to interrupt their studies for several years (and starting again after all that time won't be easy). Also, the same would apply to guys as well (if they don't bail out in most cases as they do now), as they would need to interrupt their studies and start working in order to sustain the children: do you really think that everyone is going to have parents capable of paying for 2-3 grandchildren?

As I said before, 25 as the consensual age would be much better: people would secure their studies and careers, there would be less single parents and less overall people living in poverty (especially niggers); literally everyone would benefit from it (well, except pedos I guess).

>>43741631
>I don't think you should expect 16 year olds to decide whether they want kids in the first place
Okay. Just thought I'd throw it out there and what people thought.

However, I will defend my point by saying that we force kids to do things they might not actually have wanted to do if they'd been left to decide it when they were older, because if they waited it would make things a lot harder. We send kids to school because although they might get a job (like a musician or something) that doesn't actually require a formal education. We could just wait until they're 18 and let them decide for themselves whether they want to learn about history/biology/literature/whatever, but we don't because most of them do need schooling. Plus there's a social value to it. Likewise, a large majority of women will want to have kids some day, and it's good for society if they do so.

And I'm not even saying that the government should force girls to get married at fifteen (like they force kids to go to school). I'm simply saying that logically, it would be easier if it was done like that.

>>43740270
15-20

>>43741866
>1631
to contribute, It is also the task of the parents to tell their children about sex

also, do you want sex between teens/children ?
say 14 yo with 11 yo, or 13yo with 5 yo ?

>>43740270
16 or 17 i lost mine at 17 no regrets

>>43741765
You should be able to agree upon that the dependancy of the child is the only thing that defines child molestation or that it cannot consent. Mild froms of pedophilia shouldn't necessarily be an issue, it's really more about actual sexual intercourse, in the context of the child being exposed to shame the society will put up on it, and it's about violent acts that marks the child psyhcologically. These acts should be named as what they are child molestation and child rape.

The term pedophile solely applies to a psychological condition where people are interested in prepuscent children exclusively. When you use the term so inflationary you don't work towards the goal you are openly representing, but belittle child molestation and rape, which isn't necessarily commited by pedophiles.

Stop using that term pedophile.
Call child molesters child molesters, rapists rapists.
The age range you were discussing, 12-14, pedophiles aren't interested in.

see, I added this
>>43741431
because I knew people would object to this
>>43741431
for reasons like
>>43741765

>>43741765
firstly, I'll say that that is such an Italian thing to automatically equate sex to having children. Outside the fiefdom of the Catholic church, there are things like birth control, and people have sex for other reasons than starting a family.

Italy is also behind a lot of other countries when it comes to the percentage of women in the workforce. Underlying your argument is the assumption that the normal thing is for one parent to stay home full time. Waiting until you're old enough to have a secure career is a great idea for men, because they have more money but not the inconvenience of actual childcare, but it's a terrible idea for women because they have to take time off just as they need to be concentrating on their careers.

also, see>>43741431

>>43740270

30

sex - 14

handjobs - 12

>>43741903
>say 14 yo with 11 yo, or 13yo with 5 yo ?
>also, do you want sex between teens/children ?
no. And I'm not sure what I've said that could give you that idea.

Because age of consent laws work! Right?

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>>43742036
We all know how you feel about AoC laws, Denmark

>>43742036
They have an effect.

>>43740302
It is known that the human brain does not stop maturing until the mid-20s.
http://hrweb.mit.edu/worklife/youngadult/brain.html

Therefore if you were basing a modern legal system on science-based biologically development for the purposes of establishing consent without any baggage this would be the correct answer.

Whatever age they perform sex change operations on minors.

Old enough to pick a sex, old enough to have it.

They're either old enough to make sexual decisions, or they aren't.
This one of the few things on this planet that is flat out black and white.

>>43740270
Pubescence

>>43741936
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

Yes, fucking 11-13 year olds IS pedophilia.

>>43741999
Many people are too stupid to use birth control, so by rising the consensual age you get rid of the risk; also, most women who have kids between 30-40 already have secured their careers and can be financially independant, so that's really the best age group for having children.

>>43741765
why do women need schooling?

none o f them are studying useful things like engineering.

having kids at 15-16 forces them to mature, makes them realize that their ego is not the most important thing in the world. it forces them to rely on th eadvice of elders.

women don't belong in school.

>>43741866
people have to do all kinds of things in life they don't want to. they don't get to NOT work. they don't get to be free to murder and do drugs.

why should a woman be free to marry who she wants?

life circumstances change what you want anyway. a woman is the property of her father because without him she would starve to death. why should she have a choice?

he will make better decisions than her anyway

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>>43740539

>>43740283

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfQ-F8Wo4rc

>>43742168
>he thinks age has anything to do with pedophilia
lrn2definition

When I watch this and get a boner, people will call me a pedo and put me in the same category as a child rapist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sK28VDhgDo
That's belittling child rape, and makes you worsen the situation for many.
You wouldn't even allow people to process human urges, not in you, nor in others over your self intimidation and shame and impulsiveness.
Keep supressing an issue that is older than humanity, keep a blind eye on the effects of actual child molestation by pointing fingers, keep being a ticking time bomb.

>>43740707
>If it bleeds, it breeds
Based russkie telling the facts.

>>43742168
>exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger
No, thats called child molestation.

>>43742266
You get a boner from watching a girl having a seizure set to nigger music?

You're a weird one, Deutschfriend.

>>43742297
tbh, I don't. Just saying it for the sake of making a point.

>>43742266
how is any of that considered "dancing"?

>>43742266
they've done studies and women's attractiveness peaks at 16 according to almost every single scientific study they've done.

western countries are 1984. they try to outlaw natural human desire, including capitalism, and they imprison their best and most productive people.

they sell sex to 16 year olds, they exploit 16 year old sexual images for profit, but ACTUALLY ENGAGING in the act itself, which is healthier than the marketing or media, is illegal.

you guys seriously need to purge your leftists.

>>43742334
She's having a good time and doesn't hurt anyone, who cares. Her T-shirt is really cute.

>>43742378
typical female reasoning

>>43742360
We seriously need to get rid of thinking in terms of political camps and other stupid over generalzations. Automated production should give us enough time to concentrate on thinking.

>>43742295
And also pedophilia. You don't usually fuck someone you don't want to fuck.

>>43742414
automation doesn't make people smarter, and dumb people thinking forl onger tends to end up with tumblr.

right wing politics are the solution. political camps exist, there is a right side and a wrong ide. you can't wish right and wrong away

>>43742415
>exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger
>exclusive

Just use the correct terms, it might hurt your brain a bit for 2 seconds but it's better for everyone.

Child molesters are often the girl's fathers, who didn't plan a family just to rape it.
I think it's bettter to be aware of your possible sexual urges and allowing yourself to process these possibilites that might come awake in you.

Instead of tossing away the problem onto another person.

Just use the correct terms.

>>43742176
okay, you're taking my argument somewhat further than I meant.

>>43742495
I don't wish it away, and of course more time allows people to become smarter, this is called the age of information for a reason.

>>43742226
little white butt and little white dicks

greatest memes there are

dog pest murica - cucks and pedos united

>>43742530
>primary or exclusives
Some people are attracted to both children and adults, but are still considered pedophiles. There is no other specific term that differentiates the partialness from the exclusiveness.

>>43740270

>What would be a reasonable age of consent?

25, it's about when the brain has reached full maturation.

>>43742962
People also aren't being ruled by their hormones at that point and can reproduce wisely. I think it's the best for everyone.

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>>43740270
>What would be a reasonable age of consent?
whatever age makes your life the biggest misery

>pedospam threads
>mfw

>>43742168
Because inbred children are a good thing, right? Single-moms on the brink of menopause with deformed bastards. No degeneracy here, folks

>>43740708
But the thing is many people are in school until around 18 years old. We can't have idiots getting pregnant at 14 years old just because the baby daddy thought he could pull out 100% of the time with no chance of a pregnancy. Not only does it fuck over their parents who have to support both their own kid and then the grandchild, but it fucks over the teens' lives for not being prepared.
I'm not saying it's not any better for unprepared adults, but as a teen, education should be top priority, not getting laid.

>>43742031
>no. And I'm not sure what I've said that could give you that idea.
nothing, it is a question.

15.

Source=my opinion

14. Previous to that a girl's body is just not ready to bear children and there is too much risk involved. Sure girls age at different rates which is why 14 should be held as the standard. By then in nearly all cases the girl should be fine should pregnancy occur.

Males should be held to the same standard simply for consistency. Keep the women from complaining.

10-12 years old

that's the sexiest age

>>43742962
It's bullshit and you know it. All brains are different, you can't paint a line like that.

>>43740270

16, when they have breast and can bear pushing out a child.

15.

>>43743090
What the fuck are you even talking about? Most single moms or parents who have inbred children are in the age group of 12-20.

21

>>43740270
None. If the father agrees, she can be given at the age 12 for all I care.

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Well?

>>43743286

Of course, but 25 years is the average to reach full maturity for men. Some 24 years olds might be mature enough to be parents but for making a law you go after the average. 15 years olds (Sweden's AOC) certainly aren't.

>>43743303

C-section muh nigga.

10 if boobs, 12 otherwise.

>>43742962

You dont need full brain maturation to consent to sex. Its not rocket surgery.

>>43743430

No need to be able to deal with the potential consequences of sex, children. Teenage parent's are with no exceptions shitty.

>>43743346
Hasan, pls.

I will provide you with perfect reasoning, you can try and debate it, even though the opposition will manage it to counter with impuslive name calling at best:

Kids that get raised authoritarian are more inclined to get into a stranger's car, since the kid is used to follow the orders of an authority.

The child, in this case, isn't able to diffirentiate between a parent, a teacher, or any other grown up. Expecting the child to loyally follow the parent's wish not to get into the stranger's car is also too much. Especially children, and even more so the ones that got raised authoritarian and to follow strict and direct orders, will think emotionally rather than reasonabily. We can observe this behaviour in its extreme in brutally abused children that later develop borderline disorder and are incapable of reasoning to a great extent but are fast to act based on their feelings.

Authoritarianism raises dependant, unable to reason people.

Dependance is always the gateway to abuse.


>>43742753
Heterosexual. Studies show that the general age span people perceive as arousing starts with puberty.

In case you got a problem with child molesters, call them that. They're child molesters, they molest children.

>>43743362
Whats that?

2 or 3 I reckon. They gotta be up and moving around. Otherwise it's not right.

That goes for invalids and super old people too.

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>>43743336
Sure. It's known that when women are most fertile, they pop out shit-quality babies.

>>43740270
18 or 21

twelve
but don't fuck twelve year olds

>>43743483
Parents under 25 are all shitty without exceptions. Random gay guys are LIKE THE BEST PARENTS EVAH!!!!! That's what westerners actually believe.

>>43740270

>reasonable

yeah thats not subjective at all

>>43741043
pedophilia has something to do with cultural marxism, and they fact they are pro-depopulation.
The elite, will try to "cultural marxism" everything they can, if that help their planes, "forcing" homosexuality make people most of the time not have kids, casual sex with condoms too.
Pedophily is part of that too (and will actually become legal, but first they must promote as normal), making sex with animal or dead humans (dont remember wich one of if both) will also be legal on the future.

When you make sex with an animal or a dead human you dont have childrens.

Marriage should be the age of consent. Maybe 16 for marriage with parental consent, 18/21 without.

>>43743544
>the occurrence of age independent risk factors does not change with age

They really could've left that out.

>>43743669

Nice assumptions Russia. While I don't think faggots should be murdered they certainly should not be allowed to adopt children.

>>43743544
even the scientists are politically correct, and won't list 15-17.

jesus christ.

>>43743770
as long as they are alive they will haunt you, and threaten your children with rape, directly by abduction, and indirectly by voting for left wing politicians.

there is not such thing as a benign evil. and evil is real.

there is no peace.

>>43743765
Only for the poster's intend, who knows what they used this graph for.

>>43743544
http://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20140203/babies-born-to-moms-over-35-may-have-lower-risk-for-certain-birth-defects

The risk variation is quite low and no one is telling you to have children at 50, 30 is perfectly fine... And btw, you were talking about single moms and inbred children, not birth defects.

>>43743697
Monkey pls. It was socially acceptable to arrange marriages between 12 y.o. girls and old men all along until 20th century. Evil elite is somehow legalizing pedos while raising the AoC higher and higher. Also, they "depopulated" our planet by over-populating it. Elite works in mysterious ways, huh, master Ape?

>>43743869
wrong.

has it not occured to you that the incidence of autism, which is tied to generalized mutational load, is directly related to aging societies?

but I'm sure millions of people being born with severely crippling mental disabilities isn't a big deal to you.

>>43743697
>>43743860
Sorry guys, you must share the first place for the best poster of this thread.

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>>43743798
That's the only pic i found where 16-20 are even mentioned. Most of them go from 20, kek.
>>43743869
Sounds like a "u go gurl" kind of tripe. Graphs are clear as day.

It should be 14

>>43740270
16 its pretty good tbh, here its 12 btw

>>43740270

16 that being said 18 isn't that big of deal.

16 can go up to 21

everyone over 18 can fuck each other.

Done.

>>43743917
1. In the vast majority of cases, autism isn't a "severely crippling mental disability".
2. Autism is rising mainly because of the increased awareness and diagnosis.
3. There is no solid scientific evidence that directly relates autism to parental age.
4. Stop shitposting.

>>43743864
Now that I think about it, the chart would make sense if there were values listed for the risk factors.