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how is this still called Macedonia?

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how is this still called Macedonia?
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that's arizona dumbfuck
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>>43304296
What's your beef?
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>>43304296
Pay debts
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>>43304296

IT IS "MACEDONIA" IN A PURELY POLITICAL SENSE; IT GRADUALLY TRANSFORMED ACROSS SPACETIME, MOVING SLIGHTLY NORTHWARD, FROM A GRECOPELASGIAN NATION TO A SLAVOTURKIC COUNTRY.
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did someone say Japan?
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>>43304647
By culture and language slavic with lots of old turkish words. By blood ancient macedon tribes mixed with slav
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>>43304296
Why is Greece allowed to steal the name of Macedonia for a shitty part of northern Thessaly?
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>>43304948
cause Macedonians where ancients greeks....not Yugoslavs
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>>43304296
DENBTS
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>>43304647
so why is it called Macedonia when it's "SLAVOTURKIC" and the name Macedonia actually existed before that nation was officialy created?
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OP here.....just to remind...this is not one "Greek debts" thread......there is a bigger story behind our debts that most Europians won't know if they've never heard the words "European Coal and Steel Community" and how it developed sucking weak countries with no industrial revolution in it. This is a thread about Macedonia and how come it is called "Macedonia". If somebody proves something i'm out defeated, but please don't spam about the Greek economy right now...i know it's shit,i live it everyday and i swear,i pay taxes.
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>>43305767
>being in a federation with someone means you are genetically the same
>>43305942
read this >>43304919

Your goverment recognizing us would mean your northern greece population would want to separate from greece.
Dont you have denbts to ask for to be forgiven?
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>>43305942
So greeks are not slavoturkic, after 500 years of turkish rule????? You are one funny goyim, and oh, Pay denbts!!!!!!111
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>>43304296
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqeaQwPQ6Cg
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>>43306402
I totally see your point there but why not even the word "slav" or anything isn't in the name of your nation?
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>>43304296
PAY DEBTS
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>>43304296
You have one incoming message. Would you like to read it?
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>>43304296
Because its people wanted to name it that.
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>>43305942

ARE YOU MENTALLY IMPAIRED?
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>>43306464
that's a strong point there my friend but let's not talk about the movements of nations in the north where you are, it's something that will turn against you ;)

also yeah...i believe that greeks are not at all "greeks " after what happened in balcan countries,but they got the name first, so did a place in their country called Macedonia
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>>43306402
Are northern Greeks harder working and/or less corrupt?
Is that why they want to separate?

Will they separate when the Greek government collapses?
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>>43306704
Actually i don't think a separation would happen...but we are certainly heading back to Drachmas as currency in my opinion
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>>43306669
>>43306518
>>43306333
>>43305942
>>43305767
>>43304296
You have unpaid debts, pay them
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>>43306575
This name was already taken...that's the point...it needed to be changed some way....even a letter
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>>43305767
>cause Macedonians where ancients greeks..

No, they weren't. Aristotle said the Macedonians were barbaroi, not Hellenes.

Now pay debts, lazy Turk.
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>>43306830
The name "America" was already taken.
A village in my country had that name even before the continent was discovered.

If no other country is called that yet I don't see the problem.
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>>43306518
Where does the names of Bulgaria, Serbia and Croatia indicate that they are slavic.
>>43306704
there isnt any separatistic movements as far as I know but admitting macedonians as a separate group of people would imply that there is a majority of them living in northern greece. And as far as harder working and less corrupt I'd say no.
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>>43306970
Aristotle was one...and he was born in what is called Macedonia today,Halkidiki specificaly,then at 17 moved to Athens for studies.It's not my fault if you are not taught completely everything in foreign countries.
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>>43304296
how are debts still unpaid?
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>>43304296
Macedonians claim that they are a separate ethnic group who just happen to speak a Slavic language very similar to Bulgarian, and that millions of ethnic Macedonians are being oppressed in northern Greece, many of whom don't even realise they're being oppressed. I had a conversation with one once. It was quite surreal
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>>43307192
They don't, but they are different,and no other places claimed them before except some parts of their older nations.
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>>43306820
>So say Afghanistan.
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>>43307279
that's a long story.....of inside business with europians and the strong ones of our country....and the fact we took loans because we were dependent to Europe with no industrial revolution taking place there and our production being paused.Also everyone opted in for high class economy after we were "good" and farming and factories were dramaticaly left.
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>>43306402
>Your goverment recognizing us would mean your northern greece population would want to separate from greece.

my god you're completely insane
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>>43307303
>oppressed
so are many Albanians in Greece and i'm not proud to say that the "Bold Greeks" (sarcasm here....don't get me wrong) put them in low places

Greeks never understood the importance of balcan foreigns because they are not well raised.Our society has pushed wrong beliefs in the eyes of young children.I hope i ...or maybe...we ...can still save that....cause i'm young enough
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>>43304296
How does Greece manage to get loans they clearly have no intent of repaying?
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>>43308059
how? i'm still asking myself as a "proud Greek " (loads of sarcasm here)
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i don't get it

if greeks decided to call themselves seljuks, i would say "lol what a faggot" and get over with it

they want to be proud of your achievements? so be it. have them worship your history
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>>43308140
it's more complicated than that cause they want to "free" the Greeks living in Thessaloniki who hate their guts and consider them delusional slavs
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>>43308140
the problem is i've never been taught your side of things...i mean...the other side of war and what it caused to your nation.They don't teach such stuff here because we are in peace now and they don't wanna put oil in the fire and burn what we have.
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macedonia is albania
robt jav qifsha
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>>43308311
i believe that "Macedonians" as they like to be called are in the same position.Balcan history is very complicated....and nobody ever tried to cross facts in order to make a "whole" because they are afraid of fights.
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>>43308409
troll
>>/s4s/
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friendly reminder
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Let me make this clear for everyone, we don't want to have anything to do with Fyromians.
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>>>/int/39739439
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>>43308852
fuck
wrong link
>>>/int/39734174
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>>43307348
Because a nation with old history changes the language alot and thus we shouldn't name ourself "Slavs" because probably in 100years we would speak another language but still call ourselfs Macedonian
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They had their chance to be Bulgarian and they blew it, a long time ago. They are mongrels without a tribe now.
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>>43308934
>mongrels calling mongrels mongrels
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>>43305767
>cause Macedonians where ancients greeks
>implying the father of Alexander III was greek and fought against greeks
>implying ancient macedonians didn't mix with slav tribes
Macedonians were always macedonians whether Greece or Bulgaria like it or not. Macedonians were oppressed long ass time. The language changed a lot due to occupations from every neighbor.
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well....OP's out...cause shitposting to bump the thread started...didn't want that....wanted a conversation.

Goodnight Europe and loved Balcans
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>>43309022
Don't know how to feel being told this by a Slovenian.
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>>43308232
what do you mean by free
>>43308311
yeah empathy is a problem that can best be solved with raki and uzo methinks
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>>43309062
Modern Macedonians are ethnically Bulgarian, with west Bulgarian culture and west Bulgarian dialect.
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>>43309270
>raki and uzo
brought me back
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>>43309234
Considering we have the highest R1a in the balkans, pretty bad I'd say.

For fucks sake your country name and ethnicity is named after a nomadic turkic tribe and you're calling Macedonians mongrels?
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>>43309022
How many Slovenians are there, in total? Four or five? All of them shitposters on /pol/, I'm sure.
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>>43309209
pay debnts
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>>43309342
Modern Macedonians are ethically tribeless mongrels.
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>>43304440
Mace is used by the white peniscentric oppressors spray woperoffsprings and peroffsprings of color when they protest for their long-denied rights. Though "rights" is unnecessarily triggering to the differently handed.
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>>43309397
no
>>43309342
and no
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>>43304296
Why is Greece called Greece? Much of the ancient Greek culture was in modern italy, turkey, north Africa and so it's not fair that you call yourselves the "Hellenic Republic" when you don't have Syracuse or Troy or Smyrna etc
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>>43309450
Yes.
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>>43309360
seriously get a proxy and change that flag, you will have a higher chance of rusing me
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>>43309459
Modern Greece was Venetian or Byzantine, and it was lord Byron and the British romantic movement that created their modern state. Such is the power of empires. You could argue the fucking Russians did the same for us.
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>>43309450
lol
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>>43309551
fuck off and pay your debts
you ruined the eu
your country is worthless
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>>43309459
>Why is Greece called Greece?
It's not, it's called the Hellenic Republic.
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>>43309361
You seem, what's the word again, buttaching? buttsore? No, it's buttblasted.

>>43309487
I'm not rusing you, its a fact

That's the sad part.
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>>43309613
I am genuinely curious.
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Daily reminder that ancient Macedonians were not Greek properly speaking and were considered a class of barbarians by Athenians and Spartans
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>>43309601
and you are not welcome in this thread :P

>Argentina has no problems

top kek
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>>43309608
that
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>>43309062
Alexander was born in Pella.

Do you see Serbians calling themselves Italians just because they are close to Italy? No, they have their own identity and are proud of their country. Gruevski is filling your heads with retarded propaganda to stay in power
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>mfw they say they deserve to get called Macedonia because Alexander was born right where their country is
>mfw alexander was born couple of thousand of miles souther, right into Greek borders

what the fug, monkeydonia-kun
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>>43309608
rekt
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>>43309736
forgot pic
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>>43309601
MALVINAS SON ANGLETERRAS
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It's called Macedonia because it has been called that continuously throughout history. As to why the Macedonians call themselves that, it's because they live in Macedonia. What else would they call themselves?
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>>43309613
DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>43309361
Nah, just one guy shitposting on /pol/. I just read shit, I rarely post.
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pay debts
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>>43309648
You really want to start shitposting about it? You're just going to end up with hurt feelings...

>>43309870
Is that what you're doing?
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>>43309827
Bulgarovski Juniorletov.
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>>43309959
getting desperate, are you?
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>>43309696
Argentina has only fucked themselves, you screwed other people with your lazyness and corruption.
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>>43310105
u fuckin wot?MY lazyness and MY corruption?

man...i'm a civilian.....not a big businessman nor a guy not paying taxes,you can't blame US ALL for shit few people actually did
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Ok Here is the thing

Greeks forced helenisation on everyone who didn't speak propper greek

And thus in the face of todays world they can claim they're greek based on the uncivilized forced assimilation of population (Unlike ancient era where Greek culture dominated as their supremicy and didn't force other to be greek but the people adopted the greek culture)

Second of all, the stages of a history seperates into Eras
Some eras the nation is conquered and in other people rebel and remake the country and an old nation will not remain into the same Language group because people force their culture and belives on others thats what muslims did with religion

Ancient Macedonians had helenic language and culture but Christianity changed pretty much their Religion same as for Greeks
Slavs,Turks changed the language but the population stayed the same


TLDR we were once greek but not any more and the reason why we aren't is very long and complex which greeks won't understand because of their stupidity and their ignorance
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>>43310059
Sad day for Bulgaria, anon failed to protect his countries honour

Obvious that it was going to happen when I called you mongrels. Too easy, have some pepe as well.
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>>43310264
You voted for this, at least the majority of your countrymen did. If you are not responsible for the actions of your country then whats the point of having one in the first place? Whether you like it or not you are part of the collective that did this.
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>>43310273
You are slavic, you didn't exist at the time of Ancient Macedon at the region.
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>>43310425
well....fuck right parties right? i know..i know....it was not what we needed so much time......(democrat liberal here)
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WHY DONT WE NAME THAT REGION "PEPE" AND GET OVER WITH IT
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Macedonia is a fictional state created by Yugoslavia, funded by the west to distance the people from Bulgaria through aggressive propaganda. They aren't ancient Macedonian, they were not considered a different people from Bulgarians until the early to mid-20th century. They speak a Bulgarian dialect and use the serbian version of the cyrillic alphabet.

They're a 20 year old country with a short history in Yugoslavia and they use the name Macedonia because they live in that region, not because they are ancient greeks.
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>>43310442
Because the only time "Greece" Controlled the region of Macedonia was after the balkan war which ended 102 years ago
and Macedonia is 2500years old
but how come Greece didn't own it before that?
also
My famaly is from around Kilkis and fleed because of the Balkan war and many other Macedonians are from Agean Macedonia and the last refugees to come were after the Civil war which was caused because the Macedonians supported the communists because the communists promised better laws and representation for them

And what the greek goverment did was destroy any nationalism for independent Macedonia because thats how Imperialism at that Era worked

But not only that It made it clear for the Greek Speaking Macedonians that ether you join us or you're against us and it promoted a distance between the people and thus it created the Macedonian struggle

The issue is created by the Greek goverment and the Greek goverment is brainwashing the people into Making enemies out of us so they can stay in power

Because i see greeks saying that we will "Conquer" Thesaloniki and want war on them

We are not Shiptars to steal land its yours u won it against turks and Bulgars

But do not denide our right to be what we are
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>>43310375
Is Slovenia a cuck country?
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>>43310812 I'm not denying it, you're pepes from pepeland
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>>43304296
pay debt!
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>>43305767
Pay debt
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>>43310905
pay debt
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>>43304296

Who gives a shit? I agree with what this guy said:

>>43308140

Also, pay debnts.
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>>43310966
>>43310986
fucking dutch hivemind
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>>43310966
>>43310986
samefag
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>>43311068
ayy lmao didn't even look at the time

do I have autism?
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>>43310812
So if you love Alexander so much, why the fuck don't you just study what he says? How can you disprove pic related?

How can you say he is not greek when he considers himself to be greek? Don't you understand you've just been brainwashed by your leftist government because nationalism makes people easier to control?

>only time Greece controlled the region

We controlled the region with Macedon.
Alexander was greek and created a hellenic empire.

This is really simple.
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>>43309601
>you ruined the eu
They should get a fucking medal for that.
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Yeah op, do et
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>>43308140
But you still get buttflustered we own the Aegean and you illegal trespass all the time kek.
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>>43311181
hahahahaha sarcaaaassssm
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>people believe people from fyrom are descendants of ancients makedonians
>people believe that northern greeks would want to separate from us if that country was named makedonia

this board is too idiot,i think i stayed enough.
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>>43311244
Seriously though, I hope the EU building gets bombed.
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>>43311157
Another quote. Very beautiful. Alexander was more Greek than any Greek politician alive today.
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>>43311248
>northern greeks would want to separate from us
oh so that's what freeing means

that's idiotic
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>>43311248

>this board is too idiot,i think i stayed enough.
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>>43311157
The problem is that you base your country upon a Language and force it on other minorities

While we clearly have the idea what Alexander had in mind

A multiethnic nation like he dreamed of having Persians egyptians and other people under one country

You base your culture upon the Ancient greeks because you're afraid that you're nothing like them because today greece is shit

While we Macedonians having enemies from everyside while we are not being agressive manage to exist and achieve our independence and seperate language from Bulgarians and serbs
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>>43311409
kek
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Seriously though, I really can't support the other Greeks because most of what they said on this thread is bullshit
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>>43311335
Fuark, Alexander killed some of his Greek brothers and got sad as fuck BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SAME BLOOD.

So sad :(
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urm......let people burn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saints_Cyril_and_Methodius
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>>43311335
>Dionysos

I desire wine and ecstatic revelry above all things.
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>>43311335
Yeah right, use more quotes without sources
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>>43311623
why use proxy man? :P get your flag back
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>>43311517
Fuck, this brought a tear to my eye.

He says some greek soldiers are fighting with Persia but it's ok, since the REAL GREEKS (Alexander and the rest) are fighting against them.
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>>43311694
oops forgot pic kek
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>>43304296
DEBTS
you owe us all mister
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>>43311681
I'm actually Greek
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>>43311517
Man a nation is different from Ethnos

A nation can consist from many ethnic groups

Macedonia was a nation and not an ethnos

and the fact is we want to create a nation that is macedonia

we do not rewrite ancient history and even if we tried we cannot

you're just angry we praise Macedonians who used to speak Greek and will not allow you monopoly over history

and the main reason why we do not wish to be speaking greek and reformed our language not to be serbian or bulgarian is not to fall into their influence that will lose our autonomy
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>>43311248
Debts
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>>43311768
Pay what you owe us. THEN you can hang out on 4chan
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>>43311865
Implying that Germans don't owe anything
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hmm
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>>43311711
You shouldn't really be posting, when there are debts to pay..
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>>43311623
You are right.

Go here:
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/4921445.Alexander_the_Great

Copy and paste each text and then google each paragraph.
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>>43308888
Please help Johnny Debt out of his misery
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>>43309809
Pay now, my Lord!
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>>43311850
never
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>>43311681
A little debt reminder
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>>43311907
>goodreads
>reliable source
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>>43311844
>macedonians who used to speak greek

LOL, Macedonians speak greek today even and they're inside our fucking borders.

What do you mean? Do you really believe Greek Macedons are slavs like you or something?
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>>43310273
wow you are indeed retarded after alll
>learning your existance is too hard for a slav(which derivatives from a slate ,thats right you are a slave bitch.)
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>>43312031
Goodreads isn't a source, my fellow slav.

That's why I said "google every paragraph" to actually find the sources.
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>>43306820
Holy shit, internet in Afghanistan. I thought you guys only had opium and camels
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>>43306820
GETTING SCOLDED ON DEBTS BY FUCKING AFGHANISTAN

KEK, I have no choice but to pay debts now, I admit the shame is too big.
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>>43312309
The only problem in your argument is that Macedonians in Greek part of Macedonia are from Anatolia

Remember the Turkish/Greek Population exchange?

they setteled in what is now Greek Macedonia

look at this picture here>>43310273
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Who's /pol/'s favourite Touhou?
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>>43312354
Raise your olive pick rate to pay your debts
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>>43312363
>wanting to prove something
>doesn't link sources himself
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>>43312354
This world is complex

i don't belive a retard like yourself would understand complexity and its easly manipulated by simple explinations which infact fuel Nationalism
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>>43312421
>anatolia Greeks spoke a slightly different dialect
>therefore they cannot be considered Greeks

>FYROM speaks a completely different language than Ancient Macedon
>but hey fuck it, FYROM is true Macedon

How can you even say this shit and not notice the contradiction?

Also, on Anatolian Greeks not being Greek "enough", pic related.
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>>43312768
>can't explain
>claims the world is complex because of that
Nice try / 10
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>>43312768
>>43312838
rekt/10
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>>43312563
Just google them lol what the fuck is your problem.

Literally go there, copy paste the paragraphs to google and check the results.

This is plainly known history.
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>>43312905
> wants to prove something
> keeps telling others to search themselves
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>>43310425
Don't look now Canada, but I think somebody stole your leaf
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>>43304296
PAY DEBTS
A
Y

D
E
B
T
S
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>>43313146
not paying~
what are you gonna do about it~?
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FUCK YOU MONKEYDONIA GREECE INVADE MONKEYDONIA TAKE COUNTRY IN ONE DAY XAXA
ONLY REASON WHY WE NO ANNEX IS BECAUSE BARACCO BARNER CONTROL GOVIRMENT HELP TURKEY CONQUER GYROS
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>>43313029
I'm not gonna spoonfeed on shit you can google, no.
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>>43312838
I explaind it in previouse posts above

Its complex things that followed threw history that made us what we are today

its not very good explained because big big number of things are left out but some of the important things are said which are enough to prove a point

>>43312836
If it was a dialect why did the greek goverment set up schools to educate them into speaking Proper greek

Or its just evading to point the fact that the dialect was heavly influenced by Turkish language

as i said you need to force assimilation of people just so you can claim you're modern greek today

Its not just the Anatolian greeks who were assimiliated but the Albanians around athens and the Slavic speakers in modern day Greek macedonia who didn't flee the Civil war nor the Balkan wars
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>>43313234
Invade your country and force to pay reparations.
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>>43313234
wich 2hu wud u fuk
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>>43313294
So you claim that your quotes are false
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>>43304296
Pay debts
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>>43313334
bring girls and beer my fella
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>>43313334
just try it fuccboi~

>>43313343
DO NOT SEXUALISE THE 2HUS!

Except for those that are canon sluts.
>>
So many retarded greeks in this thread.

Just say it's a documented fact ancient Macedon is greek.

Tell them to read fucking mainstream history and leave it at that.

Stop acting like autistic raving lunatics.
>>
>>43313250
PAY DENBTS
A
Y

D
E
N
B
T
S
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>>43304296
>>43313029
>>43313234
>>43313250

PAY DEBTS
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>>43313332
Noone is forcing "assimilation", every nation in every corner of the world teaches a single language to their people, what's your issue.
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>>43313427
Why don't you suck my cock greece, I forgive all your denbts. Portugal will pay both of our denbts.
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>>43304296
P A Y
D E B T S
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>>43313512
faggot.
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>>43313512
Podemos fag detected
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>>43313431
Is it so wrong to want to educate some poor sob getting brainwashed by furious communists?

You see how corrupted FYROM is, how do you expect them to know the truth.

:3
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>>43313512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQllUYYY8qc

What kind of insects are these?
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>>43313512
nice one....let's organise this
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>>43313512

Devuelvan el oro que nos robaron ustedes.
>>
>>43313487
Thats because they don't teach you the shit the greek goverment has done to people

Especially after the Balkan wars and During and after the Civil war
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>>43306333
If youre not happy with the EU and think it turned you into the blackhole of money you are today, you never should have joined. Its not like Germany had an army outside your capital and demanded you join their new organisation which actually aimed to evade a new European-Suicide-War.
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>>43313512
Literally every Spaniard I've met online was a raging faggot or pretending to be one. Imagine a respected clan leader talking about how he loves to suck cock while leading hundreds in a mass PvP raid!
What is it with you guys!?
>>
>>43313596
spic.
>>
>>43313553
>Albanian
>wants Greeks to pay denbts
Yeah tell me more about the cash you export to your country from ours
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>>43313596
Esta en las catedrales que se construyeron en una isla cubierta por una jungla de mierda, deberías estar agradecido, sin los españoles te estarían devorando unos caníbales.
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>>43313766
spaniards are useless moors.
>>
>>43313630
Things aren't secret man.
>>
I had a Macedonian foreign exchange student in one of my high school classes. Was talking to my teacher about him a few months ago, and he was apparently a member of some royal bloodline in Macedonia or some shit. His name was Stanko or something like that. Pretty cool guy.
>>
>>43313757
yeah....better stay turks for another 400 years or die trying to be alone in this mess
>>
>>43313553
KEK SPOTTED AN ALBANIANFAG

Last time I was around albanians, it must've been junior high. Long time no see man.
>>
>>43313757
Well to be fair polls at that time showed Greeks are majorly against joining the EU but we joined anyway.
>>
>>43313553
Do Albanians still cut off your dick and put it in your mouth before executing you?
>>
>>43313842
He trolled you

We never had Royality

>Stanko

HAHAH he rused you
>>
>>43307348
The kingdom of Bulgaria existed before this one, if Im not horribly mistaken.
Besides, Greece was also taken by the ancient Greeks, no? Despite having city states and their seperate identities such as Athens and Atheneans, I believe the collection of the city states were called the Greek States back then too?
There is nothing more natural than reusing a name that your ancestors used.
>>
>>43313990
kek

Is lying part of proud FYROM nation?
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>>43313954
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
KEK
>>
>>43313954
>mfw Albanianfags have a bush statue in their country

I couldn't believe it
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>>43314120
TOP KEK!
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>>43314120
Wow, Albanians really love Bush. Not sure if based or creepy as fuck.
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>>43314044
>>43314120
>>43314168
Pls, these type of replies give greekposters a bad name.
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>>43314239
It was a winrar I couldn't resist
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>>43314239
>we should uphold greek image on 4chan

nigger who gives a flying shit
>>
>>43314239
i know but it all got about shitposting anyway
>>
>>43311217
Because you hold islands 2 miles off of our coast all along the Aegean and in accord with the treaties, we have to go through a fucking maze if we want to stick to international waters.
Seriously, look up a map of the naval borders of the Aegean and youll understand. Its not like we want to tresspass.
> Oh, by the way, Istanbul and Izmir say hi
>>
>>43313782
Tell your government to demand Spain give us back the gold they stole from Puerto Rico and give us independence, bitch.
>>
>>43314287
>>43314300
>>43314307
Shitposting is fine as long as it's quality shitposting!
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POST YOUR FUCKING FACE WHEN

>>43314382
giff constantinople we giff 2 islands
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>>43314449
>quality shitposting
What are you, Stoned?
>>
>>43314431
>An useless Island in the carribean
>Gold
Pick one
>>
>>43313806
Fuck you, the british or the netherlands would've annexed us and it would have been cooler, we wouldnt be speaking shit spanish.
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>>43305767
Macedonia was never considered greek. In all ancient greek text they considered macedonians barbarians and very much not a part of greece. Stop stealing other cultures history and pay your debts degenerates
>>
>>43314431
Why is everything so dirty in puerto rico?
Is it the lack of fresh water?
>>
>>43314307
>>43309809
>>43308888
>>43314487
>>43314495
>>43311945
>>43312354
>>43314449
>>43313250
>>43313431
Payment imminent
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>>43314382
>Izmir
I still get triggered, our generals in 1922 were fucking retards.

We would have new byzantium by now if they didn't overextend like greedy fucks.
>>
isn't modern Macedonia where Spartacus was from?

are you trying to claim him as your own, too, Greece? don't you think you've taken enough from Europe already?
>>
>>43314499
>Not being proud of glorious Spaniards
>Wanting to be Jamaica or Surinam
Kill yourself Ricky Martin
>>
>>43304296
y u no pay dents
>>
>>43314707
psst, we want based Greece to sink the eurozone lower than it was after ww2 so we can continue to dominate the western world
>>
>>43314641
kek lvl:amerifags
>>
Wow, everyone hates Greece so much.
>>
>>43314761
Best time to be greek baby!!

:3
>>
Macedonian Brit here.

As a Brit and a Macedonian there is absolutely no country or people that I hate more than the Greeks. I have followed Greece from both ends of my heritage and I really cannot believe that people haven't united in saying how fucking terrible the Greeks are.

Firstly, as a Brit and an unfortunate member of the European Union I am angry about how the other countries have to bail out the Greeks for their own irresponsibility. It is their problem, and the EU shouldn't be acting as a safety net for their own backwards irresponsibility. The Greeks are a nasty lazy people, and the recession was bad things happening to bad people.

Then, on the other hand as a Macedonian I am getting fat sweaty Greeks telling Macedonia that it shouldn't join the EU despite it meeting the copenhagen criteria, being wanted by the EU and then getting vetoed every time by Greece. Why are the people in the EU listening to Greece, when all Greece is doing is giving it problems financially. Greece isn't even a benefit to the EU, the only reason that it's not being kicked out is because Merkel knows that any nation leaving will set a massive precedent that could result in other nations leaving.

And what is worse is the fact that Greeks claim to be descendants of Alexander and the ancient Hellenic people. Do they know that the Greek identity was constructed by the British? The Greek identity prior to that identified itself in line with Roman heritage, and it was only when the Brits constructed the Greek heritage for them because of their love of classics did they adopt Hellenic traditions. Similarly, they claim that Alexander was there's despite history saying that the Macedonian people were a different ethnicity and appearance to the Greeks. They were OCCUPIED by Macedonia, there is obviously debate about the ethnicity of Alexander but this is undeniable.
>>
>>43314561
Because it's a 3rd world country, we tried to be a 1st world for a while but ran out of credit. The water is still drinkable unlike cough mexico cough
>>
>>43314813
Greeks are literally the worst.

Go away Greece.

And now they have voted in their left-wing socialist government because they don't want to do any work. VMRO is literally the model /pol/ government. Nationalist, and cares for its people. Greece, you are going into poverty very soon.
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>>43314813
So who's your favourite Touhou?
>>
>>43314813
Said someone from a country full of gays
>>
>>43314886
I feel so sad that I read this post, look at the British flag and think that its probably a muslim most likely a turk writing
>>
>>43313797
>wants Greeks to pay denbts

We also want to see you on your knees crying and sucking dicks like the ugly gay faggots you are.
>>
>>43314616
It wasnt their fault thought. England forced her Greek proxy state to take Ankara and end the Turkish rebellious movement.
>>
>>43314813
urm...hating greeks? aren't you still holding pieces of the parthenon in your fucking museum even after so many campaigns to bring them back here?
shut your british piehole and get our culture back here now
>>
>>43314813
Because EU respects the Rule of law
and the law gives Greece right to veto

Its just abuse of the power and nothing more
>>
>>43314813
Macedonian Greek here.

As, a Greek and a Macedonian, there is absolutely no country or people that I hate more than Greeks.

They stole the achievement of the Macedonian Alexander as their own, and fabricated the "Hellenistic" period, although it was the Macedonian period, when we ruled most of the known and relevant world

Greeks really do owe debts,cultural debts that is.They need to admit that modern greece has ntohing to do with Ancient greeks, and that they're a mix of turks and slavs, with no identity whatsoever.
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>>43314651
But I really wanted to be master Dutch race.
>>
>>43314487
Give all the islands and you can have Trabzon and Northern Cyprus.
>>
>>43314960
Albanian chicks are so fuckable, think of all the bastards you want to kill
>>
>>43314886
ohhh.....come on....righ parties again....stay with your queen pretending you are happy
>>
It looks like you're reposting an old image.
Would you like help?

Get help posting original content
Continue killing 4chan by myself
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>>43304296

PAY DEBTNSTBSFJS!!!
>>
>>43314813
all this mad

FUCK YES

>EU despite it meeting the copenhagen criteria

KEK is there ONE FYROMian that doesn't lie?

>It has also been stated by the European Commission that the FYROM does not yet meet political criteria for accession, with election violence in June of 2008 and a boycott of parliament by opposition parties.

what the fug, my fellow slavs?? :>
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>>43315037
>implying civilized Dutch people would have assented in your shitty Island
This is what you would have been, but you are probably a nigger, so you wouldn't have loose anything.
>>
>>43314641
Wasnt he Thracian?
>>
>>43314761
Actually, I like you guys quite a lot when you dont bitch about muh constantinople.
Let by gones be by gones and we'll be fast friends quickly.
>>
>>43315313
I personaly only care about Agia Sofia.....
Idk what else to say about that city...it was Byzantine and i never was religious...sooo.....i honestly don't know
>>
>>43314956
I am a White Christian.

Most ethnic Macedonians are white, however there are a lot of people in Macedonia who are not ethnic Macedonians. Similarly in Britain, ~5% of the population are Arab but I would certainly not say that they represent Britain.

Similarly, there are lots of ethnic Turks in Macedonia. You cannot judge a country by its minority population.

>>43315000
A lot of these things were constructed under the Macedonian empire.

>>43315028
It's a shame that the Greeks celebrate the glory of the Macedonian empire as there own, bit sad really.

>>43315071
Those living in Republics will never experience the devotion and tradition that exists as being part of a constitutional monarchy. Besides, enjoy your left-wing nutjob government. Britain isn't doing as well as I would like, but I will enjoy watching social decay destroy Greece.
>>
>>43315313
I actually went there and you've turned it into a beautiful city. And I honestly don't have anything against you guys either. But the truth is most of us do.
>>
>>43315313
I visited Instabul a couple of years ago and all the Turks I met there were total bros, but the ones I see posting on 4chan are all assholes (no offense)

>>43315413
stop... typing.... like... this... retard...
>>
>>43315456
Nah most of us don't hate turks. Most of us haven't even seen a turk.

We do hate the turkish government though.
>>
>>43315440
Ethnic macedonians dont excist retard.
Curent FYROM is slav, and in no way related to Ancient Makedonia.

Makedonia was an ancient kingdom of Hellenic people, much like all of Hellas.

Fucking FYROM trying to steal Alexander the Great.
>>
>>43315313
Who the fuck cares about instantly, it's in better hands right now, Turkish merchants are the best by far
>>
>>43315440
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pericles
>>
>>43315440
LOL pls noone tell this guy about what Alexander thought about Greece, he's too invested into the brainwashing.
>>
>>43315313
Istanbul
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>>43315545
You're right.
>>
>>43315555
man dutchbros are always a bit cunts but they always lay down the truth

They're cool with me.
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>>43304296
Denbts, hue.
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>>43315413
Yeah. I hate us for making a mosque out of it too.
>>43315456
Why thank you. Since we got the better end of the deal, we (As the majority of the Turks) dont really have a grudge against the Greeks anymore either.
>>43315518
None taken. I have never not fought with a Turk I spoke to on 4chan yet. They are dicks.
>>43315545
Oh so do we man. So do we.
>>
QUICK POST BEST GREEK POLITICIAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MobFCT2kUKQ

Man I wouldn't know what to do without adwnis
>>
>>43315634
Hah! I stand corrected. Come to Izmir sometime. I'd love to buy you some Uzo/raki by the sea.
>>
>>43315823
why would you unleash this cancer upon /pol/

not even this degenerate board deserves it
>>
>>43315839
Why would I want to be cancerous to my neighbors who lived with us because of their leaders for 400years
>>
>>43315943
Watch out for this guy. He's a FYROMfag with a proxy.
>>
>>43315987
Actually Greek with no bonds with this cancerous country, the people are fine when they want to be fine but they mostly such cocks
>>
>>43314739
>>43315248

yeah, but there's overlap between thrace and the places which have been called macedonia
>>
>>43315248
>>43316032
forgot pic
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>>43316030
Syriza fag detected.

Get cancer and die ASAP.
>>
>>43315943
I literally didnt understand a word of that.
>>
>>43316105
I'm a socialist but not syriza, why would I want a new tax law just like the previous one?
>>
>>43316170
I mean that you have no reason to hate people that used to be part of our everyday lives
>>
>>43316068
Oh.
Right.
Well, you learn something new every day.
>>
>>43316198
>i'm a socialist

No shit. Don't tell me you're of those Green guys?

Or just plain old retarded KKE?
>>
>>43316105
>doesn't source claims
>calls others fags
>>
>>43316228
And you are endlessly right. We've been bros for so long. Why should that change?

Well Im off my friends. I got classes tomorrow and its late. Take good care of yourselves!
>>
>>43316030
>>43315987
Surely you have denbts to pay?
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>>43311902
UNCOMMON BANNER
>>
>>43316302
Left parties> right ones
The latter is more human
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>>43316329
İyi geceler my friend
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