I was on the train with some guy who supposedly was a Jew. He talked with some woman about shoah, how it affected his people etc. He did talked about it very vaguely without presenting any arguments to back it up (i.e. 6 million Jews died and not a single attempt to rationalize it, like mentioning memoirs, logs, the testimonies of survivors etc.) So I just had to ask him out of curiosity.
>What proof do you have that the holocaust took place?
He looked at me and said ''I am sorry?'' so I repeated my question. I told him I do like to hear his version on holocaust, because everytime I had conversation on this topic, nobody was able to maintain and support his view with solid arguments. Instead, I've heard things like ''are you stupid?'', ''get back to school and learn some history'', ''you should be ashamed'' etc. Or ''I've read and they teached me in my school that about 6 millions died, there were camps, gas chambers, mass deportations'', but no PROOFS. Basically ''I've read somewhere that this and this happened''. That's just not enough.
So, he looked at me with grim face mixed with anger and said ''They were right, you should get some history lessons''. I replied ''Well then, isn't that a great opportunity to teach me some? If I am the one who should take history lessons, It should not be hard for you to prove your point''.
We argued like that for a minute or two until he seemed to be ready to punch me in the face. I let him be and left the compartment to grab something to eat.
Question is, can YOU /pol present me arguments that back up truth of holocaust?
>>41882920 There's a shipwreck site, documents about the sinking and rescue effort by fishermen, survivor testimonies.
The holocaust only has camp remains, survivors of said camps who really didn't know what was going on and tried to survive, but no documents or other valid references like legit gas chambers (bunkers with pesticide paint don't fucking count). The holocaust is essentially a conspiracy theory turned propaganda. Just like her predecessor Cadaver Factory.
>>41882864 It is another Jew fairy tale. Same shit they've been doing forever.
>we were slaves in Egypt
Yet the person writing it had no knowledge of Egyptian society that you wouldn't obtain internationally and got things wrong you would know if you lived there. The Egyptians kept records yet there were none about Jews being slaves in Egypt.
>oy vey the ebil nazis shoahed us
>>41883004 ^-See this What is ground penetrating radar? What about the fact they didn't bring enough coal to camps to burn all the bodies they claimed. On and on and on.
The thing us goyim generally don't understand about Jews is that their stories are almost never "true." They, like leftists, believe emotional truth trumps factual truth.
>>41882864 >What proof do you have that the holocaust took place? probably wasnt a smart thing to say. youre only going to get an emotional response, and you knew that its like a fedora saying "hurr god isnt real" to christians praying for their dead relatives or something
yep Jews just invented story after the war, made thousands of Germans and non-Germans confirm it in trials, shitload of material evidence is simply fabricated, German records and statements made by officials are all fabricated, thousands of people involved in the operation are fabrication, SS Einzatgruppen never existed, and 98% of real historians are on Jewish payroll or too afraid to tell the truth, while millions of people and dozens of governments just accepted it oh wait... Holocaust denial is like a retard test you can deny numbers, but operation and plans did exist and they are beyond proving in fact due to period it happened Holocaust is more documented and has more proofs than majority of European history
actually, if Jews are really able to pull off such an operation, to convince so many people of non-existent mass extermination, to fabricate so much evidence and make so many confess, fuck it, they really are masterrace and most capable group of people in history if they are capable of doing that, it's over, you lost no point writing this here they know you're writing it they record everything they know everything fucking retards
>>41883635 yesss, Stalin did it! and he convinced everyone else in this world, since it's well known Stalin's word or Soviet historians hold much weight and those Jews Stalin raped (well documented by NKVD), that was just a plot meanwhile, while you're foaming about falseness of Holocaust, you probably still believe Stalin sent 60 million Soviet people to death
>>41883539 Does your country name really have "negro" in it? AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fuck off slavshit.
>masterrace and most capable group of people in history >if they are capable of doing that, it's over, you lost Everything is quite easy when you do it the ways of the kikes. But do you know how this civilization of our is still working? Because people are still living honestly. But I guess virtues are virtually incomprehensible to the majority of niggers and slavs.
>>41883759 I was about to write an argument, but consider that you are a communist subhuman, all points are null.
>>41883759 Way to move the goalposts, chaim. What I believe about Stalin sending 60m people to their death, is completely irrelevant to a discussion on the holohoax. But since you brought it up, You don't believe Stalin killed 60m people, but you do believe the Nazi's killed 6m Jews. If you can't see the logical fallacy in that, you are beyond blind.
>>41883757 >>41883776 term it all you want, someone able to pull off something like that is beyond human capabilities like I said, it's over stop fighting it since you believe they own you, they are your superiors, and they fucking did it while numbering 16 million this is what Hitler was talking about since you probably respect him, respect what he said stronger ones prevail >>41883677 who are you addressing now, with this dumb demand? me, or your friends here in your echo-chamber, afraid that someone with a few brain cells will crush your world you created you're counting on me being too bored to do that and you're right I won't do that if you want, open up Wikipedia, and type Holocaust there, you'll find cited documents then go read those cited documents if you want I won't waste 2 hours on some retard who doesn't even want proof of anything you made up your mind it doesn't mean I can't come here and ridicule your idiocy
>>41883759 >hurr durr everyone else in the world the allies needed something that the germans did worse than them. the allies killed millions of civilians too. both the soviets and the allies saw a perfect opportunity so they took it.
>>41883824 ohhhh someone helped them but they must be Jewish subjects right? why would someone help such heinous race of people whose only goal in life is to dominate them? I'll write it again there is more proof of Holocaust than of most of European history if you think you can question whether Holocaust happened, you can pretty much question everything about history except most basic stuff fuck, even that basic stuff becomes suspicious using such logic >>41883881 Slavs marched in Berlin though with underhanded ways or not, that doesn't matter we defeated you and by ''you'' I don't mean Germans, I mean Nazis like you if you were superior to us so much, you would win you lost the end deal with it
>>41883913 You are one mad fucking slav kike. How does it feel like when you re in Europe and most people cant even point you out on a map? Not to mention that this is the first time I have seen a Montenigger on this site. Your kike masters have finally given you internet, perhaps? Still longing for the communist days too?
>>41884078 Bro, you are doing nothing more than confirming our bias. You can't provide any evidence of your claims. You don't try to educate anyone. You make baseless claims and then call people stupid when they don't agree with you. People like you are the reason I won't believe.
>>41884068 Probably irrelevant slavnigger wanting to show off with its new internet connection.
>>41884112 Yup. We should really have killed all the kikes then turned them into fertilizer so no proof could have existed. But we left them in resort like camps instead so you could bomb them. Sad.
>>41884167 Everyone pities you in this thread, subhuman.
>>41884221 Actually By the most reasonable argument, it shouldnt be called a Holocaust. A Holocaust is by definition religion based. BUT: All the camps were for political dissidents and active partisans and communists. The number has been debated even by Jewish sources.
The definition and the number dont add up. Thats why it didnt happen.
>>41884129 I'm just applying some logic without doing much work, sorry consider the following: thousands if not tens of thousands of people were involved in researching Holocaust after the war, thousands of German officers of various ranks confessed to what they did I referred you to Wikipedia because that's the easiest way to at least combine all that and pick up what you want to read about Holocaust but you have to understand how this looks from perspective of someone outside of your world what you're doing here is like people denying WW1 happened, or people denying Mongol invasions, or any other even in history for example, Mongol invasions are probably hundreds of times less documented than Holocaust do you think there's a possibility it was all fake? there's a limit where questioning everything becomes retarded there's also a limit to human capabilities it's impossible for some group to invent something so big out of nothing like I said, numbers are up for debate, way they reached 6 million is debatable but the plans, murders, gassing, crematoria...it all happened and it's pretty much impossible to deny it unless we exit human sphere and aliens or some higher intelligence did it and you at least tried to write a reasonable response, so I'll be reasonable some guy writing ''hurrr commie slavshit'' doesn't really deserve a meaningful response
>>41882864 No physical evidence. Not besides what's already floating out there on the net. All I can say is that, something foul probably did happen. Idk how many died but it wasn't pretty. Just look at Mein Kampf and other works by the likes of Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler. Their attitudes alone towards Jews were not very hospitable. That alone proves nothing but. There's other shit. The Nazis documented practically everything they did. They were extremely organized. I also had a non Jewish substitute teacher old guy one time. it was a pretty cool story, and I seriously doubt American soldiers during the time would make this kinda shit up. >He was a soldier >Recently captured a German camp >The Americans round up the Nazis as prisoners. >moments later him and the others find a bunch of bad shit like corpses, stolen jewelry, experiments, etc >He said what they witnessed was so bad, they lined up the prisoner guards and executed them all by firing squad
Surely, this proves absolutely nothing. But when you have multiple accounts of similar stuff, from multiple sources? When you look at the political climate of the time? Other shit like that? Yes. It's not only possible but extremely probable that the Jews(among many others) suffered some persecution. I don't know how many, but it definitely happened imo. Bible proves it as well. Jews were meant to suffer 7 years. WWII lasted almost 7 years and Nazi oppression was a little before then.
>>41884301 Then tell me where 45000 jewish survivors who came to Sweden actually came from? Did they just starv themselves near to death just to get to another country and then blame it all on the Germans?
>>41884316 I don't doubt that the Nazi's persecuted the Jews. I don't doubt that the Jews were rounded up and sent to concentration camps. I don't doubt that these camp were unsanitary. I don't doubt that preventable diseases like typhus killed thousands of people.
I doubt the systematic extermination because of lack of evidence.
>>41884216 Pictures of dead people dont imply mass executions you dumbfuck. A ship lying at the bottom of the sea means it fucking sunk. Retard.
>>41884316 >after the war, thousands of German officers of various ranks confessed to what they did I know that the brain of a subhuman slav is too tiny to comprehend this but the winners can do pretty much anything to the losers in wars.
>I referred you to Wikipedia because that's the easiest way to at least combine all that and pick up what you want to read about Holocaust Wikipedia which is being rewrite everyday by god knows how many people and change sources by the hour. All is permitted on wiki as long as there is a source, and the next person can change it as they wish.
A slav subhuman wouldnt understand this though.
>there's also a limit to human capabilities This irrelevant shit again. Try to form an actual argument, subhuman. At least your above vomit resembles arguments, although they are shitty.
American Senator, Joseph McCarthy, in a statement given to the American Press on May 20th, 1949, drew attention to the following cases of torture to secure such confessions. In the prison of the Swabisch Hall, he stated, officers of the S.S. Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler were flogged until they were soaked in blood, after which their sexual organs were trampled on as they lay prostrate on the ground. As in the notorious Malmedy Trials of private soldiers, the prisoners were hoisted in the air and beaten until they signed the confessions demanded of them. On the basis of such "confessions" extorted from S.S. Generals Sepp Dietrich and Joachim Paiper, the Leibstandarte was convicted as a "guilty organisation". S.S. General Oswald Pohl, the economic administrator of the concentration camp system, had his face smeared with faeces and was subsequently beaten until he supplied his confession. In dealing with these cases, Senator McCarthy told the Press: "I have heard evidence and read documentary proofs to the effect that the accused persons were beaten up, maltreated and physically tortured by methods which could only be conceived in sick brains. They were subjected to mock trials and pretended executions, they were told their families would be deprived of their ration cards.
>>41884444 All these things were carried out with the approval of the Public Prosecutor in order to secure the psychological atmosphere necessary for the extortion of the required confessions. If the United States lets such acts committed by a few people go unpunished, then the whole world can rightly criticise us severely and forever doubt the correctness of our motives and our moral integrity." The methods of intimidation described were repeated during trials at Frankfurt-am-Mein and at Dachau, and large numbers of Germans were convicted for atrocities on the basis of their admissions. The American Judge Edward L. van Roden, one of the three members of the Simpson Army Commission which was subsequently appointed to investigate the methods of justice at the Dachau trials, revealed the methods by which these admissions were secured in the Washington Daily News, January 9th, 1949. His account also appeared in the British newspaper, the Sunday Pictorial, January 23rd, 1949. The methods he described were: "Posturing as priests to hear confessions and give absolution; torture with burning matches driven under the prisoners finger-nails; knocking out of teeth and breaking jaws; solitary confinement and near starvation rations." Van Roden explained: "The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months . . . The investigators would put a black hood over the accused's head and then punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses . . .
>>41884456 All but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators." The "American" investigators responsible (and who later functioned as the prosecution in the trials) were: Lt.-Col. Burton F. Ellis (chief of the War Crimes Committee) and his assistants, Capt. Raphael Shumacker, Lt. Robert E. Byrne, Lt. William R. Perl, Mr. Morris Ellowitz, Mr. Harry Thon, and Mr. Kirschbaum. The legal adviser of the court was Col. A. H. Rosenfeld. The reader will immediately appreciate from their names that the majority of these people were "biased on racial grounds" in the words of Justice Wenersturm - that is, were Jewish, and therefore should never have been involved in any such investigation. Despite the fact that "confessions" pertaining to the extemination of the Jews were extracted under these conditions, Nuremberg statements are still regarded as conclusive evidence for the Six Million by writers like Reitlinger and others, and the illusion is maintained that the Trials were both impartial and impeccably fair. When General Taylor, the Chief Public Prosecutor, was asked where he had obtained the figure of the Six Million, he replied that it was based on the confession of S.S. General Otto Ohlendorf. He, too, was tortured.
>>41884397 can you point out to those holes, I'm interested in any case, a family friend's father was in Dachau I really have no reason to think that guy is a Jewish slave or some shit Some Germans did fucked up shit and it's time to admit that, instead of acting like a rabid dog, like>>41884301
>>41884405 >I don't doubt that the Jews were rounded up and sent to concentration camps. You've established systematic treatment >I don't doubt that these camp were unsanitary. >I don't doubt that preventable diseases like typhus killed thousands of people. You've established death. >I don't doubt that the Nazi's persecuted the Jews. You've established a presumption of intent.
To establish actual intent ask yourself these 3 questions. 1. Were the conditions in these camps known to the people running them? 2. Did they continue to send Jews to these camps while these conditions were known? 3. Could the Jews have been let out of these conditions?
To understand my point, if a kidnapper locked up some kids somewhere, left them to die, and they died, would the kidnapper not be charged with murder?
And no "Allied bombing" didn't stop them from letting the Jews out.
>>41882864 >he says what about all the evidence >you say show me the evidence >he can't because he's on a train and doesn't have access to the evidence >you walk away thinking that you somehow won the argument
>>41884535 One has been confirmed a liar, which has led us t believe that many of the others are liars too. Red cross death counts from the camps list fewer numbers. Questioning the holocaust can get you jail time equal to the time you get for murder. Check out France. When people try to hide it this hard, it's because something is fishy.
>>41884405 do you understand that even if typhus killed all of them, it's still a Nazi German crime due to putting so many civilians in concentration camps? that doesn't really remove their crimes >because of lack of evidence and what do you consider lack of evidence? >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust here waste some time and read all of this I assure you while it's not all evidence, it's a Wikipedia article lol, you'll get more educated about Holocaust than from /pol/ idiots and you're aware Nazis did everything in their power to conceal the evidence after the war? it's not like evidence was just out there in the open
>>41884584 or people understand the dangers of Nazism, the offensiveness of such comments to victims, and understand the political agenda behind Holocaust denial let's be honest, 90% of people who deny Holocaust just do it so they can whitewash the Nazis there is no real quest for truth there I mean, just check who denies Holocaust today, pockets of extremist idiots and some Muslims who are buttmad about Israel that said I don't really agree with laws concerning Holocaust denial, but I don't believe Holocaust didn't happen
>>41884649 >>41884676 what are ''Eisenhower'' death camps? if this is as to why are there no death camps in German proper, reason is mostly logistical, it's easier to do that shit where majority of Jews are (E. Europe) >and most Jews in the camps were communists all properly sentenced by famous Nazi legal system :^) >>41884628 t-thanks master
>>41884603 >HURR DURR WIKIPEDIA IS THE ONLY AUTHORITY Of course. Shitty people from tiny countries are always guilty of the appeal to authority fallacy. Its inevitable for them.
>>41884708 >or people understand the dangers of Nazism, the offensiveness of such comments to victims, and understand the political agenda behind Holocaust denial >let's be honest, 90% of people who deny Holocaust just do it so they can whitewash the Nazis I dont expect a subhuman slav to understand that throwing people into prisons for even questioning the number is quite despicable, even though the number changes every year.
>that said I don't really agree with laws concerning Holocaust denial, but I don't believe Holocaust didn't happen You are just happy that those laws are in place. A kike loving slav is the lowest filth in the world so I dont expect better.
>>41884709 >People dying of disease=/=gas chambers. Either way it's a confined space which kills which is known to kill being used to kill. >Except the war wasnt over and most Jews in the camps were communists you shit eating retard. Yeah, murdering a communist or a jew or anyone else, it's still murder. Also we both know the Nazis imprisoned children too.
>>41884709 actually since they put them in such conditions, it's pretty much same shit only gas chambers are more brutal but gas chambers did exist in any case, what people often forget is that Nazis didn't just kill Jews 3,000,000 Soviet POW's were exterminated in various manners, often suffering even worse conditions than in Jewish camps
>>41882864 The holocaust certainly happened, there is plenty of evidence to support Hitler ordering the deaths of Germany's 'undesireables'. However, a lot of the details went along with the soldiers that operated the camps as well as the USSR fucking with evidence to make the Nazis seem as evil as possible (the original victim count they gave was above 20 million). It's now unlikely that we'll ever find out exactly what happened, in particular how many were killed and whether there were there because they were Jewish or because they were another undesireable race, had genetic defects or because they were political agitators.
tl:dr we have been given speculation as fact in regard to the holocaust, but it isn't because of a plot by a cabal of scheming Jews.
>>41884801 You know, the camps that were "made" for German soliders after the war. You said that even if the Holohoax happened the way we proved ( which it did), the Reich is still wrong for putting active dissidents and combatants into camps.
Well, then we should discuss the camp Herr Eisenhower had given us too.
>>41884809 and what's your authority? What Goebbels said? :^) >le subhuman slav >le subhuman slav once again m8 Slavs wrecked Nazis so how are we subhuman, when your leader claimed stronger one wins? that's the law of nature, and your leader and Nazis believed in it ''subhuman'' Slavs absolutely wrecked German army and it's best units, including the pride of German race according to them, the SS so how are we subhuman? why are we having this discussion? why aren't you kissing Slavic feet, since you hold Nazi beliefs? we won, you lost this is your logic, not mine friend
>>41884880 sure, and Germans were ethnically cleansed after the war your point? it's still a crime, and I'm not an inhuman ape like you to deny it or praise it just because my people did it and since you post bombed cities, may I remind you Nazis did that first, and for purely terror reasons? this Dutch here defending your kind forgets your kind flattened Rotterdam
>>41884856 If even the number one holocaust historian (Raul Hilberg, who still says the holocaust happened) said that there is no documented evidence. That Hitler never ordered the mass killing but that it happened spontaneously.
Who should I believe. The guy who spend more than 30 years of his life researching the holocaust and coming to the same conclusion as revisionists. Or some random anon?
>>41884905 Slavs only got so far with American aid. 1 vs 1 Germans are always the winner. Thats what focusing on Quality is all about.
>why aren't you kissing Slavic feet, since you hold Nazi beliefs? we won, you lost Because it wasnt a 1 one 1 fight. >this is your logic, not mine friend Im not your friend or your equal though. You should go back to your shed and beg to clean Poland's toilet.
>>41884967 No I didn't. About 300 died in that bombing (original ww2 propaganda talked about 30.000). How many civilians do you think would've died if they didn't bomb it? They'd just roll over us like nothing.
>>41884974 Jews don't claim 6 million were gassed go check the article on fucking Wikipedia you didn't even read this shit did you, you just heard fictional stories and now you're basing your ideas on them? >>41884986 okay, no one can be this retarded, good trolling, I admit
>>41885021 then Germans should've surrendered earlier, then civilians wouldn't die...do you think they deserve special treatment, because you like them? they started a war and lost, and faced the consequences however>>41884967 I admit crimes happened in regards to German people after war >>41885065 do you hold a degree in history anon?
>>41885101 wikipedia can be alteedr by anyone. I could got that page and change the entirety of the text to say 'hitler did nothing wrong'. that doesn't make it a legitimate source for unbiased information now does it?
>>41884980 I'm not challenging holocaust revisionism, if the death toll went from 20 million down to 6 million then there is justification for questioning every aspect of it.
Hitler made it clear that certain people were unwanted in his society, and there is no way he didnt know about the movement of people to camps to some extent. However, as I said there are huge details of the holocaust that we'll probably never know due to tampering of evidence by Nazis that wanted to avoid punishment and the USSR who did so for propaganda reasons.
>>41885021 Ssssshhh You are a nazi like me. You know nothing, denier.
>>41884967 Such talks. Of course this coming from the mouth of a communist slav. Why am I arguing here? With all the things the kikes are doing I can just say that Im happy all the kikes died.
>>41885101 >okay, no one can be this retarded, good trolling, I admit Slavshit cant handle the truth that even Zhukov himself, one of the USSR's Marshall, said in his memoirs that without the Americans the USSR wouldnt have been able to keep up with so many losses. OF COURSE he was also one of the better slav. Monteniggers are so irrelevant that I just remembered about them today in this post. >The USSR was highly dependent on rail transportation, but the war practically shut down rail equipment production: only about 92 locomotives were produced. 2,000 locomotives and 11,000 railcars were supplied under Lend-Lease. Likewise, the Soviet air force received 18,700 aircraft, which amounted to about 14% of Soviet aircraft production (19% for military aircraft).
>Although most Red Army tank units were equipped with Soviet-built tanks, their logistical support was provided by hundreds of thousands of U.S.-made trucks. Indeed by 1945 nearly two-thirds of the truck strength of the Red Army was U.S.-built. Trucks such as the Dodge 3/4 ton and Studebaker 2½ ton were easily the best trucks available in their class on either side on the Eastern Front. American shipments of telephone cable, aluminum, canned rations, and clothing were also critical. Holohoax or not the war proved that Germans are truly the most superior, or at least superior to Monteniggers.
>>41884288 >A ship on the bottom of the sea is proof that the ship sunk. No. It's proof A ship was sunk there. How do you know it was the Titanic. How do you know its been lying there for 103 years and wasn't just put there in the fifties?
Oj tam oj tam. Zapytałem jedynie by poparł swoje wypowiedzi jakimiś argumentami. Zamiast tego prawie dał mi w pysk.
Nie przeczę holocaustowi. Jestem po prostu ciekaw solidnych argumentów przemawiających za jego dokonaniem się. Jak widzisz, dobrze podkaszaniony /pol/ sam dostarcza mi tych argumentów. Za leniwy jestem by czytać całe książki o tym.
>>41882864 STOP ASKING QUESTIONS YOU ANTI-SEMITE RACIST. I'm going to ensure you are arrested and charged with terrorism and hate crimes, you NAZI fuck, I will make sure you can't get a job because it will be on your record that you are a racist nazi anti semite racist. I will be asking your government to censor you from the internet at place you on a gagging order.
>>41885301 You argument is laughable. Whether or not the Titanic sunk in the North Sea in 1914 and was found on the bottom is not relevant to a discussion on the holocaust. If you wanna debate the sinking of the Titanic, start a new thread.
>>41885229 nope, but you claimed you have your own estimates so I suppose you read primary sources, did research and shit, and did it in a thorough and revolutionary way that discredits overwhelming majority of historians and shakes the foundations of conventional history?
>>41885531 see>>41883913 >if you want, open up Wikipedia, and type Holocaust >there, you'll find cited documents >then go read those cited documents if you want >I won't waste 2 hours on some retard who doesn't even want proof of anything you made up your mind >it doesn't mean I can't come here and ridicule your idiocy
>>41885387 It's entirely relevant because my "laughable" argument is the exact same argument as that used by Holocaust deniers. If a concentration camp is not evidence for the Holocaust then a simple shipwreck on the bottom of the ocean is not evidence that 1,500 people died on the night of April 14th 1912.
>b-but muh inconsistencies in eyewitness testimony from the holocaust There are contradictions among eyewitnesses to the sinking of the Titanic as well, guess it never happened right?
>>41885583 hahahah what? that article I pointed to proves what I'm claiming so I referred you to that article you're the one claiming you did original research (I still think you don't know what it means), which wrecked all that evidence and research conducted by thousands of historians with a degree in history I'm asking you to show me your original research, and make your point so far you just said, paraphrasing ''I don't believe in extermination camps" so you must have some evidence that all those historians who DO believe in them, and which I showed with that article, used bad evidence, jumped to conclusions, or just outright lied yeah, it's a monumental task, but given your conviction I'm sure you did it so, in short, proofs
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