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Denying Holocaust

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I was on the train with some guy who supposedly was a Jew. He talked with some woman about shoah, how it affected his people etc. He did talked about it very vaguely without presenting any arguments to back it up (i.e. 6 million Jews died and not a single attempt to rationalize it, like mentioning memoirs, logs, the testimonies of survivors etc.) So I just had to ask him out of curiosity.

>What proof do you have that the holocaust took place?

He looked at me and said ''I am sorry?'' so I repeated my question. I told him I do like to hear his version on holocaust, because everytime I had conversation on this topic, nobody was able to maintain and support his view with solid arguments. Instead, I've heard things like ''are you stupid?'', ''get back to school and learn some history'', ''you should be ashamed'' etc. Or ''I've read and they teached me in my school that about 6 millions died, there were camps, gas chambers, mass deportations'', but no PROOFS. Basically ''I've read somewhere that this and this happened''. That's just not enough.

So, he looked at me with grim face mixed with anger and said ''They were right, you should get some history lessons''. I replied ''Well then, isn't that a great opportunity to teach me some? If I am the one who should take history lessons, It should not be hard for you to prove your point''.

We argued like that for a minute or two until he seemed to be ready to punch me in the face. I let him be and left the compartment to grab something to eat.

Question is, can YOU /pol present me arguments that back up truth of holocaust?


Wha
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>>41882864
Can you provide reputable proof (ie. no shills) that the Titanic actually sunk?
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JIDF at your service
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>>41882864
should've baited him then sued.
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>Anno 76 After Shoah
>Still not knowing when to hide your powerlevel
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>>41882920
the titanic is currently at the bottom of the atlantic ocean, and i personally own some "legally salvaged" memorabilia from it.
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>>41882920
There's a shipwreck site, documents about the sinking and rescue effort by fishermen, survivor testimonies.

The holocaust only has camp remains, survivors of said camps who really didn't know what was going on and tried to survive, but no documents or other valid references like legit gas chambers (bunkers with pesticide paint don't fucking count).
The holocaust is essentially a conspiracy theory turned propaganda.
Just like her predecessor Cadaver Factory.
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>>41882864
It is another Jew fairy tale. Same shit they've been doing forever.

>we were slaves in Egypt

Yet the person writing it had no knowledge of Egyptian society that you wouldn't obtain internationally and got things wrong you would know if you lived there. The Egyptians kept records yet there were none about Jews being slaves in Egypt.

>oy vey the ebil nazis shoahed us

>>41883004
^-See this
What is ground penetrating radar? What about the fact they didn't bring enough coal to camps to burn all the bodies they claimed. On and on and on.

The thing us goyim generally don't understand about Jews is that their stories are almost never "true." They, like leftists, believe emotional truth trumps factual truth.
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>>41883106
>forged letters and commie banter the Workers' Party used to convince people their enemy was 'muh joos', before switching back to painting Britbongs and Murricans yellow.
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Fourth part of the image here >>41882973

This concludes your daily reminder to remember the 6 million.
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>>41883004
>>41883024
I love how there are no sources to back up the 'debunking' claims in the pics.
>Just take my word.
>This is what really happened
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>>41883038
>>41883056
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic_alternative_theories#Gardiner.27s_Ship_That_Never_Sank

That was the RMS Olympic.
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>>41882920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpIOWQ5-Hnk

Faggot
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>>41883205
Wow you have less sources in your 'debunking' then the holohoax pictures. And anyway who gives a shit if the nazis were systematically killing jews, they should have finished the job.
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Sure you gotta break some eggs to make a omelet.....not 6 million eggs but probably more like 1.5-2million.

It's absurd to believe that 6 million people were exterminated in such a short amount of time.
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>>41882864
>What proof do you have that the holocaust took place?
probably wasnt a smart thing to say. youre only going to get an emotional response, and you knew that
its like a fedora saying "hurr god isnt real" to christians praying for their dead relatives or something
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>>41883004
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>>41883106
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>>41883205
Only a stormfag would try to prove "uncle hitler killed those ebil joos with pesticides!!" without any citations or historical references.
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>>41882973
Denying the 12 million deaths is outrageous anteisemitic of you
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>>41882973
Can someone please debunk this before my worldview collapses?
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yep Jews just invented story after the war, made thousands of Germans and non-Germans confirm it in trials, shitload of material evidence is simply fabricated, German records and statements made by officials are all fabricated, thousands of people involved in the operation are fabrication, SS Einzatgruppen never existed, and 98% of real historians are on Jewish payroll or too afraid to tell the truth, while millions of people and dozens of governments just accepted it
oh wait...
Holocaust denial is like a retard test
you can deny numbers, but operation and plans did exist and they are beyond proving
in fact due to period it happened Holocaust is more documented and has more proofs than majority of European history
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>>41882864
>Oy vey, is anyone here making valid points?
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>>41883368
So he just cave in to this Jewish guys butthurt?
That is retarded. 'If I offended you, you needed it.'
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>>41882973
It wouldn't be a Holocaust really then. More like a slaughter. Stalin did a far better Holocaust.
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actually, if Jews are really able to pull off such an operation, to convince so many people of non-existent mass extermination, to fabricate so much evidence and make so many confess, fuck it, they really are masterrace and most capable group of people in history
if they are capable of doing that, it's over, you lost
no point writing this here
they know you're writing it
they record everything
they know everything
fucking retards
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>>41883539
I blame Rome for creating this monster
If they had left those shitty desert people alone we would never have had these problems.
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>>41883539
This coming from montenigger.
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jidf up in this motherfucker.
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>>41883539
You need to understand that Stalin used the holocaust as an excuse to occupy Poland after the war. It wasn't only the Jews that were invested in this story.
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>>41883466

link to documents or testimony regarding plans to gas all kikes pls
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A bunch of kikes dying from Typhus hardly constitutes as genocide.
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>>41882864
Why don't you ask your grandparents?`Or any Pole alive during WWII for that matter.
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>>41883539
>fuck it, they really are masterrace and most capable group of people in history

No, that just makes them the most evolved parasite on the planet.
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>>41883635
yesss, Stalin did it!
and he convinced everyone else in this world, since it's well known Stalin's word or Soviet historians hold much weight
and those Jews Stalin raped (well documented by NKVD), that was just a plot
meanwhile, while you're foaming about falseness of Holocaust, you probably still believe Stalin sent 60 million Soviet people to death
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>>41883539
>fuck it, they really are masterrace and most capable group of people in history

No, that just makes them the most evolved parasite.
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>>41883539
>if Jews are really able to pull off such an operation
or someone helped them AND they got lucky

the whole american and british involvement after the war and everything that followed was sketchy as shit
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>>41882973

So that settles it
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>>41883539
Does your country name really have "negro" in it?
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fuck off slavshit.

>masterrace and most capable group of people in history
>if they are capable of doing that, it's over, you lost
Everything is quite easy when you do it the ways of the kikes.
But do you know how this civilization of our is still working? Because people are still living honestly.
But I guess virtues are virtually incomprehensible to the majority of niggers and slavs.

>>41883759
I was about to write an argument, but consider that you are a communist subhuman, all points are null.
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>>41883759
Way to move the goalposts, chaim.
What I believe about Stalin sending 60m people to their death, is completely irrelevant to a discussion on the holohoax.
But since you brought it up,
You don't believe Stalin killed 60m people, but you do believe the Nazi's killed 6m Jews. If you can't see the logical fallacy in that, you are beyond blind.
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>>41883757
>>41883776
term it all you want, someone able to pull off something like that is beyond human capabilities
like I said, it's over
stop fighting it
since you believe they own you, they are your superiors, and they fucking did it while numbering 16 million
this is what Hitler was talking about
since you probably respect him, respect what he said
stronger ones prevail
>>41883677
who are you addressing now, with this dumb demand?
me, or your friends here in your echo-chamber, afraid that someone with a few brain cells will crush your world you created
you're counting on me being too bored to do that
and you're right
I won't do that
if you want, open up Wikipedia, and type Holocaust
there, you'll find cited documents
then go read those cited documents if you want
I won't waste 2 hours on some retard who doesn't even want proof of anything
you made up your mind
it doesn't mean I can't come here and ridicule your idiocy
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>>41883300

Lies perpetrated by people with a vested stake in titanic.

See how easy it was to dismiss any information you provided me. It can be done for other things than the holocaust.

Faggot.
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>>41883759
>hurr durr everyone else in the world
the allies needed something that the germans did worse than them. the allies killed millions of civilians too.
both the soviets and the allies saw a perfect opportunity so they took it.
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>>41882864
A jewish boy says to his dad- Dad, I need twenty dollas.
Dad says- Ten dollas? What do you need 5 dollas for?
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>>41883919

ground penetrating radar vs. sonar usage

checkmate atheist
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>>41883919
No because you are just bad at arguing lol.

We aren't dismissing anything. There is no evidence to dismiss but hearsay.....The titanic has records, pictures of the boat sunk, things from the ship etc.

You are just terrible and you should really rethink your logic.

Proof is on the one who believes.
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>>41883824
ohhhh
someone helped them
but they must be Jewish subjects right?
why would someone help such heinous race of people whose only goal in life is to dominate them?
I'll write it again
there is more proof of Holocaust than of most of European history
if you think you can question whether Holocaust happened, you can pretty much question everything about history except most basic stuff
fuck, even that basic stuff becomes suspicious using such logic
>>41883881
Slavs marched in Berlin though
with underhanded ways or not, that doesn't matter
we defeated you
and by ''you'' I don't mean Germans, I mean Nazis like you
if you were superior to us so much, you would win
you lost
the end
deal with it
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>>41883913
You are one mad fucking slav kike.
How does it feel like when you re in Europe and most people cant even point you out on a map?
Not to mention that this is the first time I have seen a Montenigger on this site.
Your kike masters have finally given you internet, perhaps?
Still longing for the communist days too?
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>>41883913
what the fuck is your problem?
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>>41884012
all those records were fabricated in order to pull off insurance scam
there was no Titanic
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>>41884078
Thank you for allowing me to hide you.
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>>41883951
>the allies needed something that the germans did worse than them.

And it's out fault you autistic krauts gave it to us?
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>>41884037
lol what
>>41884068
nothing really my Extra TV stopped working so I can't watch CL
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>>41884078
Bro, you are doing nothing more than confirming our bias. You can't provide any evidence of your claims. You don't try to educate anyone. You make baseless claims and then call people stupid when they don't agree with you. People like you are the reason I won't believe.
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>>41883466
>operation and plans did exist and they are beyond proving
link pls
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>>41883951
hahahahahahahah
okay
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All you need right anon!
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/15-loth.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R6mTTrOlzE
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>>41884012
>The titanic has records, pictures of the boat sunk, things from the ship etc.

You mean kind of like how we have records from the holocaust, pictures of the concentration camps, and things from the concentration camps?

Show me a single autopsy report from the Titanic.
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Can't tell if people really are this stupid, debating if the holocaust actually happened?
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>>41884181

http://trutube.tv/video/23849/The-Treblinka-Archaeology-Hoax
http://trutube.tv/video/29180/The-Majdanek-Gas-Chamber-Myth
http://trutube.tv/video/21170/The-Jewish-Gas-Chamber-Hoax-A-New-Film-By-Holocaust-Debunker-Eric-Hunt
http://trutube.tv/video/2353/The-Last-Days-of-The-Big-Lie
http://trutube.tv/video/1761/Six-MIllion-My-Ass
http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.ca/2012/07/origin-of-6-million-jews-figure.html
http://www.holocausthandbooks.com/ (Books)
http://www.vho.org/ (Books)
http://www.codoh.com/ (Forum Search)
http://www.ihr.org/main/search.shtml
http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/
http://whatreallyhappened.info/
http://www.nazigassings.com/
http://zundelsite.org/
http://www.cwporter.com/partone.htm
http://holocaustrevisionism.com/ (PDF Document)
http://gaschamberhoax.com
http://germarrudolf.com/2012/05/air-photo-evidence/
http://trutube.tv/video/2345/ONE-THIRD-of-the-HOLOCAUST-full-video
http://trutube.tv/video/3110/Ernst-Zundel-Setting-the-Record-Straight
http://trutube.tv/video/2922/Ernst-Zundel-The-Great-Holocaust-Trial
http://trutube.tv/video/5268/Ernst-Zundel-Off-Your-Knees-Germany-1983-2003-ENG
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>>41884216
A ship on the bottom of the sea is proof that the ship sunk.
Pictures of concentrations camps and things from concentration camps are not proof of a systematic extermination campaign.
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>>41884068
Probably irrelevant slavnigger wanting to show off with its new internet connection.

>>41884112
Yup. We should really have killed all the kikes then turned them into fertilizer so no proof could have existed.
But we left them in resort like camps instead so you could bomb them.
Sad.

>>41884167
Everyone pities you in this thread, subhuman.

>>41884221
Actually
By the most reasonable argument, it shouldnt be called a Holocaust.
A Holocaust is by definition religion based.
BUT:
All the camps were for political dissidents and active partisans and communists.
The number has been debated even by Jewish sources.

The definition and the number dont add up.
Thats why it didnt happen.
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>>41884129
I'm just applying some logic without doing much work, sorry
consider the following: thousands if not tens of thousands of people were involved in researching Holocaust
after the war, thousands of German officers of various ranks confessed to what they did
I referred you to Wikipedia because that's the easiest way to at least combine all that and pick up what you want to read about Holocaust
but you have to understand how this looks from perspective of someone outside of your world
what you're doing here is like people denying WW1 happened, or people denying Mongol invasions, or any other even in history
for example, Mongol invasions are probably hundreds of times less documented than Holocaust
do you think there's a possibility it was all fake?
there's a limit where questioning everything becomes retarded
there's also a limit to human capabilities
it's impossible for some group to invent something so big out of nothing
like I said, numbers are up for debate, way they reached 6 million is debatable
but the plans, murders, gassing, crematoria...it all happened and it's pretty much impossible to deny it unless we exit human sphere and aliens or some higher intelligence did it
and you at least tried to write a reasonable response, so I'll be reasonable
some guy writing ''hurrr commie slavshit'' doesn't really deserve a meaningful response
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>>41882864
I'm gonna just leave you with this link:
http://holocausthoaxmuseum.com/
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>>41884221
I can't believe you are making a blank question which doesn't show your side of things. Why don't you believe in it anon?
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>>41882864
No physical evidence. Not besides what's already floating out there on the net. All I can say is that, something foul probably did happen. Idk how many died but it wasn't pretty. Just look at Mein Kampf and other works by the likes of Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler. Their attitudes alone towards Jews were not very hospitable. That alone proves nothing but. There's other shit. The Nazis documented practically everything they did. They were extremely organized.
I also had a non Jewish substitute teacher old guy one time. it was a pretty cool story, and I seriously doubt American soldiers during the time would make this kinda shit up.
>He was a soldier
>Recently captured a German camp
>The Americans round up the Nazis as prisoners.
>moments later him and the others find a bunch of bad shit like corpses, stolen jewelry, experiments, etc
>He said what they witnessed was so bad, they lined up the prisoner guards and executed them all by firing squad

Surely, this proves absolutely nothing. But when you have multiple accounts of similar stuff, from multiple sources? When you look at the political climate of the time? Other shit like that? Yes. It's not only possible but extremely probable that the Jews(among many others) suffered some persecution. I don't know how many, but it definitely happened imo. Bible proves it as well. Jews were meant to suffer 7 years. WWII lasted almost 7 years and Nazi oppression was a little before then.
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>>41884316
Then how come that even Raul Hilberg after more than 30 years of research hasn't been able to show one single document. How come that all the "confessions" are filled with holes
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>>41884301
Jesus, tone down the edge a little bit, kid.
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>>41884301
Then tell me where 45000 jewish survivors who came to Sweden actually came from? Did they just starv themselves near to death just to get to another country and then blame it all on the Germans?
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>>41884316
I don't doubt that the Nazi's persecuted the Jews.
I don't doubt that the Jews were rounded up and sent to concentration camps.
I don't doubt that these camp were unsanitary.
I don't doubt that preventable diseases like typhus killed thousands of people.

I doubt the systematic extermination because of lack of evidence.

But I'm illogical.
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>>41883060
This only proves how jews lie making up outrageous numbers to create an emotional reaction.
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>>41882973
>>41883004
>>41883024
>>41883060
>>41883106
>>41883128
>>41883147
>>41883205

Stormfags utterly, utterly BTFO

has anyone ever been this rekt on the internet before?
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>>41884216
Pictures of dead people dont imply mass executions you dumbfuck.
A ship lying at the bottom of the sea means it fucking sunk.
Retard.

>>41884316
>after the war, thousands of German officers of various ranks confessed to what they did
I know that the brain of a subhuman slav is too tiny to comprehend this but the winners can do pretty much anything to the losers in wars.

>I referred you to Wikipedia because that's the easiest way to at least combine all that and pick up what you want to read about Holocaust
Wikipedia which is being rewrite everyday by god knows how many people and change sources by the hour.
All is permitted on wiki as long as there is a source, and the next person can change it as they wish.

A slav subhuman wouldnt understand this though.

>there's also a limit to human capabilities
This irrelevant shit again.
Try to form an actual argument, subhuman.
At least your above vomit resembles arguments, although they are shitty.
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American Senator, Joseph McCarthy, in a statement given to the American Press on May 20th, 1949, drew attention to the following cases of torture to secure such confessions. In the prison of the Swabisch Hall, he stated, officers of the S.S. Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler were flogged until they were soaked in blood, after which their sexual organs were trampled on as they lay prostrate on the ground. As in the notorious Malmedy Trials of private soldiers, the prisoners were hoisted in the air and beaten until they signed the confessions demanded of them. On the basis of such "confessions" extorted from S.S. Generals Sepp Dietrich and Joachim Paiper, the Leibstandarte was convicted as a "guilty organisation". S.S. General Oswald Pohl, the economic administrator of the concentration camp system, had his face smeared with faeces and was subsequently beaten until he supplied his confession. In dealing with these cases, Senator McCarthy told the Press: "I have heard evidence and read documentary proofs to the effect that the accused persons were beaten up, maltreated and physically tortured by methods which could only be conceived in sick brains. They were subjected to mock trials and pretended executions, they were told their families would be deprived of their ration cards.
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>>41884444
All these things were carried out with the approval of the Public Prosecutor in order to secure the psychological atmosphere necessary for the extortion of the required confessions. If the United States lets such acts committed by a few people go unpunished, then the whole world can rightly criticise us severely and forever doubt the correctness of our motives and our moral integrity." The methods of intimidation described were repeated during trials at Frankfurt-am-Mein and at Dachau, and large numbers of Germans were convicted for atrocities on the basis of their admissions. The American Judge Edward L. van Roden, one of the three members of the Simpson Army Commission which was subsequently appointed to investigate the methods of justice at the Dachau trials, revealed the methods by which these admissions were secured in the Washington Daily News, January 9th, 1949. His account also appeared in the British newspaper, the Sunday Pictorial, January 23rd, 1949. The methods he described were: "Posturing as priests to hear confessions and give absolution; torture with burning matches driven under the prisoners finger-nails; knocking out of teeth and breaking jaws; solitary confinement and near starvation rations." Van Roden explained: "The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months . . . The investigators would put a black hood over the accused's head and then punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses . . .
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>>41884456
All but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators." The "American" investigators responsible (and who later functioned as the prosecution in the trials) were: Lt.-Col. Burton F. Ellis (chief of the War Crimes Committee) and his assistants, Capt. Raphael Shumacker, Lt. Robert E. Byrne, Lt. William R. Perl, Mr. Morris Ellowitz, Mr. Harry Thon, and Mr. Kirschbaum. The legal adviser of the court was Col. A. H. Rosenfeld. The reader will immediately appreciate from their names that the majority of these people were "biased on racial grounds" in the words of Justice Wenersturm - that is, were Jewish, and therefore should never have been involved in any such investigation. Despite the fact that "confessions" pertaining to the extemination of the Jews were extracted under these conditions, Nuremberg statements are still regarded as conclusive evidence for the Six Million by writers like Reitlinger and others, and the illusion is maintained that the Trials were both impartial and impeccably fair. When General Taylor, the Chief Public Prosecutor, was asked where he had obtained the figure of the Six Million, he replied that it was based on the confession of S.S. General Otto Ohlendorf. He, too, was tortured.
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>>41883106
you kikes sure are an insulting bunch of assholes.
No wonder everybody hates you.
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>>41884397
can you point out to those holes, I'm interested
in any case, a family friend's father was in Dachau
I really have no reason to think that guy is a Jewish slave or some shit
Some Germans did fucked up shit and it's time to admit that, instead of acting like a rabid dog, like>>41884301
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>>41882864

What do you mean arguments? We have pictures of the holocaust and first hand accounts from people who went through it and the people who rescued them....
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>>41883106
Can you show me any legit proof faggot?
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>>41883060
they put many effort into the debunk stuff, we have to admit

>10 newspapers from 1915-1938 before the WWII or the Holocaust even happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paDxxnBDz7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paDxxnBDz7M
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>>41884405
>I don't doubt that the Jews were rounded up and sent to concentration camps.
You've established systematic treatment
>I don't doubt that these camp were unsanitary.
>I don't doubt that preventable diseases like typhus killed thousands of people.
You've established death.
>I don't doubt that the Nazi's persecuted the Jews.
You've established a presumption of intent.

To establish actual intent ask yourself these 3 questions.
1. Were the conditions in these camps known to the people running them?
2. Did they continue to send Jews to these camps while these conditions were known?
3. Could the Jews have been let out of these conditions?

To understand my point, if a kidnapper locked up some kids somewhere, left them to die, and they died, would the kidnapper not be charged with murder?

And no "Allied bombing" didn't stop them from letting the Jews out.
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>>41882864
>he says what about all the evidence
>you say show me the evidence
>he can't because he's on a train and doesn't have access to the evidence
>you walk away thinking that you somehow won the argument

is that about how things panned out?
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>>41884562
*much
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>>41884535
One has been confirmed a liar, which has led us t believe that many of the others are liars too.
Red cross death counts from the camps list fewer numbers.
Questioning the holocaust can get you jail time equal to the time you get for murder. Check out France.
When people try to hide it this hard, it's because something is fishy.
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>>41883475
No. but there are better ways of approaching it
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>>41883990
>ground penetrating radar vs. sonar usage
Jew technology, can't be trusted.

>>41884012
>No because you are just bad at arguing lol.
No I'm not. You are bad at arguing.
Proof is on the one who believes.
check and mate.
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>>41884535
Check out the book I posted in this thread. It's also talked about in the video: "one third of the holocaust"
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>>41884405
do you understand that even if typhus killed all of them, it's still a Nazi German crime due to putting so many civilians in concentration camps?
that doesn't really remove their crimes
>because of lack of evidence
and what do you consider lack of evidence?
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
here
waste some time and read all of this
I assure you while it's not all evidence, it's a Wikipedia article lol, you'll get more educated about Holocaust than from /pol/ idiots
and you're aware Nazis did everything in their power to conceal the evidence after the war? it's not like evidence was just out there in the open
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>>41884403
I never denied the killing of Jews, so hold on to your butt, asswipe.
Im challenging the number and the definition.
>45000 jewish survivors
Thats much less than 6 millions isnt it?

>>41884409
Oh boy, poor you.
Those pics have less citations than the average holohoax macros.

>>41884488
>a family friend's father was in Dachau
Either a communist or a partisan.
Oh wow.
Totally should have let it run loose during an operation.

> it's time to admit that, instead of acting like a rabid dog
Nobody denies the existence of the camps here, slav retard.

>>41884535
sure thing.
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>>41883539
Always knew you had our back Montenegro
You die last
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>>41884603
Then what about Eisenhower's deathcamps
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>>41884565
>And no "Allied bombing" didn't stop them from letting the Jews out.
Thats true.
Except the war wasnt over and most Jews in the camps were communists you shit eating retard.

>>41884603
What about Eisenhower death camps?

>>41884628
I know right?
The shittier a country ist, the more they are inclined to praise the Jew.
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>>41884584
or people understand the dangers of Nazism, the offensiveness of such comments to victims, and understand the political agenda behind Holocaust denial
let's be honest, 90% of people who deny Holocaust just do it so they can whitewash the Nazis
there is no real quest for truth there
I mean, just check who denies Holocaust today, pockets of extremist idiots and some Muslims who are buttmad about Israel
that said I don't really agree with laws concerning Holocaust denial, but I don't believe Holocaust didn't happen
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>>41884565
>>41884603
People dying of disease=/=gas chambers.
How hard is that to understand?
I do not condone the actions of the Nazis, but like I said, disease=/=gas chambers.
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>>41884619
kek look at this butthurt kraut

shame that the citations in the average holohoax macro are complete bullshit

pic related, average level of fact a stormfag is used to dealing with

>fictional quote
>fictional man
>unrelated picture
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>>41884589
>Jew technology, can't be trusted.


you are very bad at arguing m8
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>>41884649
>>41884676
what are ''Eisenhower'' death camps?
if this is as to why are there no death camps in German proper, reason is mostly logistical, it's easier to do that shit where majority of Jews are (E. Europe)
>and most Jews in the camps were communists
all properly sentenced by famous Nazi legal system :^)
>>41884628
t-thanks master
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>>41884603
>HURR DURR WIKIPEDIA IS THE ONLY AUTHORITY
Of course. Shitty people from tiny countries are always guilty of the appeal to authority fallacy.
Its inevitable for them.

>>41884708
>or people understand the dangers of Nazism, the offensiveness of such comments to victims, and understand the political agenda behind Holocaust denial
>let's be honest, 90% of people who deny Holocaust just do it so they can whitewash the Nazis
I dont expect a subhuman slav to understand that throwing people into prisons for even questioning the number is quite despicable, even though the number changes every year.

>that said I don't really agree with laws concerning Holocaust denial, but I don't believe Holocaust didn't happen
You are just happy that those laws are in place.
A kike loving slav is the lowest filth in the world so I dont expect better.

>>41884722
>fictional
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>>41884709
>People dying of disease=/=gas chambers.
Either way it's a confined space which kills which is known to kill being used to kill.
>Except the war wasnt over and most Jews in the camps were communists you shit eating retard.
Yeah, murdering a communist or a jew or anyone else, it's still murder. Also we both know the Nazis imprisoned children too.
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>>41884709
actually since they put them in such conditions, it's pretty much same shit
only gas chambers are more brutal
but gas chambers did exist
in any case, what people often forget is that Nazis didn't just kill Jews
3,000,000 Soviet POW's were exterminated in various manners, often suffering even worse conditions than in Jewish camps
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>>41882864
The holocaust certainly happened, there is plenty of evidence to support Hitler ordering the deaths of Germany's 'undesireables'. However, a lot of the details went along with the soldiers that operated the camps as well as the USSR fucking with evidence to make the Nazis seem as evil as possible (the original victim count they gave was above 20 million). It's now unlikely that we'll ever find out exactly what happened, in particular how many were killed and whether there were there because they were Jewish or because they were another undesireable race, had genetic defects or because they were political agitators.

tl:dr we have been given speculation as fact in regard to the holocaust, but it isn't because of a plot by a cabal of scheming Jews.
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>>41884819
No, not either way.
You claim people were systematically gassed by the Nazis. That does not equal disease. Period. You can mental gymnastics it anyway you want.
Diseases=/=gas chambers
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>>41884801
You know, the camps that were "made" for German soliders after the war.
You said that even if the Holohoax happened the way we proved ( which it did), the Reich is still wrong for putting active dissidents and combatants into camps.

Well, then we should discuss the camp Herr Eisenhower had given us too.

>>41884819
>>41884846
Ditto.
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>>41884801
Did you even read the small artical here? >>41884676


>>41884809
Here's the uptodate version. That one is a bit too much..
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>>41884809
and what's your authority? What Goebbels said? :^)
>le subhuman slav
>le subhuman slav
once again m8 Slavs wrecked Nazis
so how are we subhuman, when your leader claimed stronger one wins?
that's the law of nature, and your leader and Nazis believed in it
''subhuman'' Slavs absolutely wrecked German army and it's best units, including the pride of German race according to them, the SS
so how are we subhuman?
why are we having this discussion?
why aren't you kissing Slavic feet, since you hold Nazi beliefs? we won, you lost
this is your logic, not mine friend
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>>41882864
Holocaust denial is illegal in Poland[1]. You should be grateful he didn't called the cops on your sorry ass.

1. http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C5%82amstwo_o%C5%9Bwi%C4%99cimskie#Propagowanie_k.C5.82amstwa_o.C5.9Bwi.C4.99cimskiego
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>>41884866
>You claim people were systematically gassed by the Nazis.
No I didn't. I claimed they were systematically exterminated. Never said gassed.
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>>41884880
sure, and Germans were ethnically cleansed after the war
your point? it's still a crime, and I'm not an inhuman ape like you to deny it or praise it just because my people did it
and since you post bombed cities, may I remind you Nazis did that first, and for purely terror reasons?
this Dutch here defending your kind forgets your kind flattened Rotterdam
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>>41884935
Holy fuck.
Just move the goalposts, kiddo.
And by the way, if you don't believe the 6million were gassed, you are technically a holocaust denier....
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>>41883466
OK
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>>41884856
If even the number one holocaust historian (Raul Hilberg, who still says the holocaust happened) said that there is no documented evidence. That Hitler never ordered the mass killing but that it happened spontaneously.

Who should I believe. The guy who spend more than 30 years of his life researching the holocaust and coming to the same conclusion as revisionists. Or some random anon?
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>>41884905
Slavs only got so far with American aid.
1 vs 1 Germans are always the winner.
Thats what focusing on Quality is all about.

>why aren't you kissing Slavic feet, since you hold Nazi beliefs? we won, you lost
Because it wasnt a 1 one 1 fight.
>this is your logic, not mine friend
Im not your friend or your equal though.
You should go back to your shed and beg to clean Poland's toilet.
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>>41884935
and this
not everyone was gassed
before camps, Jews were exterminated in other ways, mostly shooting
according to estimates just over half were gassed or exterminated in camps
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>>41884967
No I didn't. About 300 died in that bombing (original ww2 propaganda talked about 30.000). How many civilians do you think would've died if they didn't bomb it? They'd just roll over us like nothing.
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>>41885017
>according to estimates
surely not mine.
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>>41884974
Jews don't claim 6 million were gassed
go check the article on fucking Wikipedia
you didn't even read this shit did you, you just heard fictional stories and now you're basing your ideas on them?
>>41884986
okay, no one can be this retarded, good trolling, I admit
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>>41884770

>you are very bad at arguing m8

You are worse, m8.
>>
LET'S GET THIS STRAIGHT!

If all you can say about the holocaust is muh anti-semitism, there's plenty of proof. Without actually providing said proof you can GTFO!
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>>41884974
>And by the way, if you don't believe the 6million were gassed, you are technically a holocaust denier....
I didn't say I don't believe they weren't gassed.

See
>>41884405
For the context of my posts.

I'm responding to this fellow by establishing that he believes they were systematically exterminated. He just doesn't believe he believes that.

Obviously the Jews were gassed, but that has no bearing on this fellow's views.

Why would I try to prove me right when its so much easier to prove him wrong?
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>>41885021
then Germans should've surrendered earlier, then civilians wouldn't die...do you think they deserve special treatment, because you like them?
they started a war and lost, and faced the consequences
however>>41884967
I admit crimes happened in regards to German people after war
>>41885065
do you hold a degree in history anon?
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>>41885101
wikipedia can be alteedr by anyone. I could got that page and change the entirety of the text to say 'hitler did nothing wrong'. that doesn't make it a legitimate source for unbiased information now does it?
>>
Nice first power fantasy OP.
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>>41882864

No but I can present you information that demonstrates it didnt.

400k, says germanies documents released by the soviets in the early 90s.
>>
I'll post it again
http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/15-loth.pdf
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>>41884980
I'm not challenging holocaust revisionism, if the death toll went from 20 million down to 6 million then there is justification for questioning every aspect of it.

Hitler made it clear that certain people were unwanted in his society, and there is no way he didnt know about the movement of people to camps to some extent. However, as I said there are huge details of the holocaust that we'll probably never know due to tampering of evidence by Nazis that wanted to avoid punishment and the USSR who did so for propaganda reasons.
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>>41885142
see>>41884935
> Never said gassed.
You care to edit that post. If not, you are blatant liar.

>>41885144
>do you hold a degree in history anon?
Is a history degree required to read books and form my own opinion?
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>>41885021
Ssssshhh
You are a nazi like me.
You know nothing, denier.

>>41884967
Such talks.
Of course this coming from the mouth of a communist slav.
Why am I arguing here?
With all the things the kikes are doing I can just say that Im happy all the kikes died.

>>41885101
>okay, no one can be this retarded, good trolling, I admit
Slavshit cant handle the truth that even Zhukov himself, one of the USSR's Marshall, said in his memoirs that without the Americans the USSR wouldnt have been able to keep up with so many losses.
OF COURSE he was also one of the better slav.
Monteniggers are so irrelevant that I just remembered about them today in this post.
>The USSR was highly dependent on rail transportation, but the war practically shut down rail equipment production: only about 92 locomotives were produced. 2,000 locomotives and 11,000 railcars were supplied under Lend-Lease. Likewise, the Soviet air force received 18,700 aircraft, which amounted to about 14% of Soviet aircraft production (19% for military aircraft).[18]

>Although most Red Army tank units were equipped with Soviet-built tanks, their logistical support was provided by hundreds of thousands of U.S.-made trucks. Indeed by 1945 nearly two-thirds of the truck strength of the Red Army was U.S.-built. Trucks such as the Dodge 3/4 ton and Studebaker 2½ ton were easily the best trucks available in their class on either side on the Eastern Front. American shipments of telephone cable, aluminum, canned rations, and clothing were also critical.[19]
Holohoax or not the war proved that Germans are truly the most superior, or at least superior to Monteniggers.
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>>41885224
But it did
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>>41885229
>Is a history degree required to read books and form my own opinion?
It does to "people" like Montenegro when it regards the Holohoax.
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>>41884288
>A ship on the bottom of the sea is proof that the ship sunk.
No. It's proof A ship was sunk there.
How do you know it was the Titanic. How do you know its been lying there for 103 years and wasn't just put there in the fifties?

because James Cameron told you so?
>>
>>41884933

Oj tam oj tam. Zapytałem jedynie by poparł swoje wypowiedzi jakimiś argumentami. Zamiast tego prawie dał mi w pysk.

Nie przeczę holocaustowi. Jestem po prostu ciekaw solidnych argumentów przemawiających za jego dokonaniem się. Jak widzisz, dobrze podkaszaniony /pol/ sam dostarcza mi tych argumentów. Za leniwy jestem by czytać całe książki o tym.
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>>41882864
Classic upside-down Indonesia.
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>>41885252
Why are you arguing with me when I'm agreeing with you?
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>>41882864
STOP ASKING QUESTIONS YOU ANTI-SEMITE RACIST.
I'm going to ensure you are arrested and charged with terrorism and hate crimes, you NAZI fuck, I will make sure you can't get a job because it will be on your record that you are a racist nazi anti semite racist.
I will be asking your government to censor you from the internet at place you on a gagging order.
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>>41885301
You argument is laughable. Whether or not the Titanic sunk in the North Sea in 1914 and was found on the bottom is not relevant to a discussion on the holocaust. If you wanna debate the sinking of the Titanic, start a new thread.
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>>41885229
nope, but you claimed you have your own estimates
so I suppose you read primary sources, did research and shit, and did it in a thorough and revolutionary way that discredits overwhelming majority of historians and shakes the foundations of conventional history?
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>>41882920
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/569244/TITANIC-HUMAN-REMAINS.jpg
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>>41884986
Fat underfucked PEGIDA Kraut detected.

>1 vs 1 Germans are always the winner
Germany lost two world wars.

Call me a subhuman slav. I dare you.
>>
>>41885369
I feel so bad for these typhus victims :(
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>>41885411
>so I suppose you read primary sources, did research and shit
exactly. and I formed my own conclusions based off of my research.
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>>41885229
>You care to edit that post. If not, you are blatant liar.
The never said gassed came BEFORE I said they were gassed.

No, I don't care enough to revise past statements so they conform to present context because I don't have brain damage and understand what context and passage of time are.
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>>41885240
but Germans are superior
so why didn't you overcome such adversity and win?
surely someone so above Slavs would win over Slavs
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>>41885464
>The never said gassed came BEFORE I said they were gassed.
What?
>brain damage
Throw more mud my way. your tears are so delicious.
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>>41882864
No, I would also just punch you in the face.
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>>41885448
so please, if you have time, show me evidence which you uncovered, and which led you to conclude there was no plan for extermination of Jews and that extermination camps never happened
>>
I 100% agree with National Socialist doctrine, but I have to say: If I were Hitler, lover of his people, and I just heard that Dresden was incinerated, I might lose my shit. Really.
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>>41885531
see>>41883913
>if you want, open up Wikipedia, and type Holocaust
>there, you'll find cited documents
>then go read those cited documents if you want
>I won't waste 2 hours on some retard who doesn't even want proof of anything
you made up your mind
>it doesn't mean I can't come here and ridicule your idiocy

Take your own advice.
>>
>>41884967
>>41885411
>>41885346
>>41885224
>>41885144
>>41885101
>>41885017
kudos to you m8, wouldn't have the nerves or patience to debate with frustrated far right hillbillies about the holocaust. You're a good lad.
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>>41882973
wow
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>>41883451
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>>41885431
No you are worse.
You had an empire and pissed it all away just to poke at us Germans.
Now the Slavs consider themselves more "white" than Brits.
Thats laughable.

>>41885481
Actually slavs were getting their teeth kicked in.

>so why didn't you overcome such adversity and win?
Same reason a 180cm white body builder wouldnt hold against 4 niggers.

>>41885588
>wouldn't have the nerves
Of course.
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>>41885387
It's entirely relevant because my "laughable" argument is the exact same argument as that used by Holocaust deniers.
If a concentration camp is not evidence for the Holocaust then a simple shipwreck on the bottom of the ocean is not evidence that 1,500 people died on the night of April 14th 1912.

>b-but muh inconsistencies in eyewitness testimony from the holocaust
There are contradictions among eyewitnesses to the sinking of the Titanic as well, guess it never happened right?
>>
>>41885490

>>41885229
Came after
>>41884935
Ergo
>>41884935
Was not a lie when I said it.

I honestly think you might be brain damaged.
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>>41885583
hahahah what?
that article I pointed to proves what I'm claiming
so I referred you to that article
you're the one claiming you did original research (I still think you don't know what it means), which wrecked all that evidence and research conducted by thousands of historians with a degree in history
I'm asking you to show me your original research, and make your point
so far you just said, paraphrasing ''I don't believe in extermination camps"
so you must have some evidence that all those historians who DO believe in them, and which I showed with that article, used bad evidence, jumped to conclusions, or just outright lied
yeah, it's a monumental task, but given your conviction I'm sure you did it
so, in short, proofs
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