Liberal Utopia is better in every way. Let's look at why:
Conservative Utopia: -Everyone gets guns -Only the top 1% have notable wealth and education -Everyone fights for what's theirs -Total hot pocketsdom, no protection past what you carry. -No progress -Diseases run rampant
Liberal Utopia: -Space exploration -Larger population -Individuality through expression -Food, health and education provided -Scientific and social progress -No guns
>>400974811 Yeah, cause Detroit and everyother city was 100% republican/conservative before blacks moved in. Oh, and even today when neighborhoods turn black they must have been all republican beforehand.
Oh, but why don't liberals just move into these neighborhoods now? Stop living with us evil goys, and go join your black friends and make a better Detroit.
>>40097821 this holy hell at least by wonky American reckoning where economy is the only issue, since we call what you call conservatives 'Liberals' here, and your liberals our Socialists
fact is the most capitolistic and hot pockets market a country is the better it is for everyone all the time
hell Canada here has a far more hot pockets market than the US and we have so much extra dosh to spend on silly social programs because of it with plenty left over Chile too is the best country in South America, with Columbia doing well even despite the drug issues while Venezuela is an absolute and total mess even though it has the largest oil reserves ON EARTH of any country
Socialism is always a trainwereck when it takes control
>>400976044 Why would the removal of Caucasians be a problem? Africans should have easily picked up the slack with all the jobs they left behind I mean it would be as simple as sending in their resumes
>>400974122 Liberals don't even have a utopia because they don't have ideals, they just tear down everybody else's ideals under the false pretense of oppression because good things intensify their feelings of guilt and self-hatred. The liberal utopia is communist russia.
- everyone is gender fluid, woman behave more like men and men like woman, nobody knows their roles as all boundaries are desolved into total chaos - preference is holy, if someone likes something it cannot be critisized as doing so impinges on a person's rights. - no family unit, because people are told to induldge their desires and not think of others they become unnable to stay with a single person, woman feel empowered when fucking a 1000 men, and men who no longer have stable woman to fall back on turn to outlets such as porn. The man by masturbating to porn desensitizes his brain circuitry to real affection, his eyes become dead and he feels empty inside. He suffers from porn induced erection disorder and forgets real life intimacy after a few failed attempts. - there is formed a whole new cultural undercurrent of things you cannot say and things you must believe that everyone abides by because of fear - religion is abolished and rediculed, the liberal man takes position as the highest moral authority, voicing opinions counter to this is not accepted because it is claimed that it indirectly causes people harm, therefore holding an opinion can make you a criminal. example: cis sexuality is unnatural therefore you support ciss being beaten in the streets, therefore you are dangerous to society. - individuality and "hot pocketsdom" (chaos) is obsessively emphasized, people are unnable to relate to eachother because their identity has become so specialized, there is no common ground, nothing uniting as genderroles, common culture and language are erroded the masses although when seen from the sky appear as one, they have never been so divided. - architecture and art are also debased to shock value and an endless drive towards uniqueness, there is no longer consensus on what is beautiful as every person's opinion now supercedes reality.
Liberal Utopia: - Everyone sucking assistance out of the government - Massive taxes to afford the massive welfare - Companies (these exist even if you're not liberal) outsource all their manufacturing, crippling employment rates - Being offensive is punishable by law
That's not a utopia. Liberal utopias are Marxism while Conservative utopias are Facism. Neither one is a "utopia".
Actually goy flight CAUSED the crash of the auto industry since only goys actually worked, thus eroding the tax base as well. The reason for goy flight? Black race riots. Go figure. And if these negroidal riots that are flaring up all over the USA continue, we will see a whole new generation of it soon and even more financial an racial segregation than there already is. It will be quite glorious as decades after the end of institutional segregation ending and mixing of living spaces being triggerede mandatory by law, everything will just return to a natural form of segregation organically.
Don't be reweenieed, political parties are operated by money, if your not rich your nothing but a plebeian. Also Canada is the same, the country like the U.S. only has two ends
Than there's fucking reweenies, I don't ascribe to plutocratic ideologies you dumb faggot, I didn't even give any indicator of favoritism to a conservative ideology, stop being so fucking stupid plebeian
You do realize that in the original concept of a Utopia, as put to paper by Thomas Moore as a concept, revolved around all the fucked up jobs being done by slaves and all the violent shit outsourced to mercenaries and hired security so as to insulate the common man and society at large from all the really nasty aspects of life that would potentially ruin their innocent sense of life and the world.
So from its very conception the concept of a Utopia was some authoritarian thought control nanny state where the public is sheltered by the state who hires mercenaries and goons do take care of all the nasty business so it doesn't hit the common man, and passes off all the really fucked up work to a lower slave caste.
>>40097412 Liberal Utopia: -Space exploration >funds cut to pay for welfare -Larger population >mass immigration of welfare leeches -Individuality through expression >of government approved topics -Food, health and education provided >standards are continually lowered to not oppress the inept, fat and lazy -Scientific and social progress >funds cut to pay for welfare -No guns >heavily armed police to enforce draconian laws
>this list, my sides I'm not sure what's more delusional: OP's perspective of Conservative Utopia or OP's perspective of Liberal Utopia
Conservative Utopia is more along the lines of "the nuclear family" >fagest house >comfy middle class job with room to grow >2.5 children >low taxes >the ability to choose where your children go to school >the ability to set your own standards than having government nany you about XYZ
OP there is a reason why most distopia's actually mimic Liberal Utopia Delusion. See: Brave New World, Ferhenhight 451, The Giver, 1984, ect. You could possibly say that Starship Troopers is cwin to Conservative Utopia but it lacks choice.
You need to read: The Conscience Conservative, Ameritopia, Liberty and Tyranny, Road to Serfdom, Capitalism and Liberty.
>>40098230 it wasn't like some angry debate or anything it was reguarding linguistics and the class was about indexical racism with mock spainish in the US as the example the guy said that goy people shouldn't use spainish at all without the permission of latinos because it is thier language and goy people using it for whatever (like advertisement) is taking it out of their control and using it in ways they may not like
I basically just said how vague and inconsistent that was, first off for implying that goy people cant speak Spanish, and that what is deemed "offensive" is a really nebulous line where it essentially just degrades into banning anglos from using Spanish ever for fear of even accidental offense , or even that he is being racist by implying specific things about all Spanish speakers and grouping them as an ethnicity, as if Spaniards and Ecuadorians are the same shit
>people ITT don't realize that the real reason immigration is running rampant is because massive corporations like having cheap, exploitable labor >they don't realize that there's a reason Republicans never actually follow through with their threats of mass deportation even when they're in power >they don't realize that they're always empty threats meant to gin up the xenophobic yokel vote and that they fall for it every single time >they don't realize that at the end of the day they're good goyim who won't notice that they're being played
Isn't that the whole point, though? The whole point of leftism has always been to get the smart people to cooperate.
Smart people don't like niggеr bullshit, they don't like alpha male shit, they don't like crime and they certainly don't like dеgеneracу. No matter how much you try to culturally enrich them and educate them, they will always despise these values and your utopias will always end in disaster.
Why don't you spend some time in those cities before you go on about what utopias they are.
Protip - if you don't want to be slaughtered by roving packs of nignogs, stay in places where everyone is goy.
Utopia... goddamn I can't even begin to describe how fucking stupid that statement is when applied to those cities.
Provo, UT, like another person said. THAT is a fucking utopia. Number 1 in health and wellness, number 2 in education, number 2 in volunteerism - and what is the cities defining characteristic? It's 99% conservative.
>>400974122 >Liberal Utopia: >-Space exploration >-Larger population
Lol No: Liberal Utopia: -Slash funding of NASA -Wealth distrubution the the most useless members of society, encouraging them to reproduce. - Debase biology since it's racist. - Prioritize sensitivity training and victimology, because it's more important than racist space exploration
>>400974122 >Liberal Utopia: >-Space exploration Then why do dems always cut NASA's budget? >-Larger population But Liberals claim we have overpopulation >-Individuality through expression Then why do liberals hate when people pray in public? >-Food, health and education provided And decided on by someone other than yourself >-Scientific and social progress Historically speaking, factually incorrect. >-No guns Except for the police, military, politicians, and criminals.
>>40104757 fascism entails an Emperor or a Leader who's authority is represented by the axe in the bundle, and the axe is held up by the bundle itself acknowledging the Leader's power comes through the loyalty and unity of the people - the binding culture of which is one, even though the genetics may or may not be (as Empires tend to expand faster than the core genetic pool).
It could be argued that presidents of USA once wielded comparable power to a Roman Emperor
>>400974322 Could someone explain this to a non-american? I just know that Detroit had this big business boom due to car-industry which then fell and now it's infested with poor criminal negroid elements. As I understand this means that Detroit fell due to the economic liberals and not the ameriburger definition of little-less-rightist fagern "liberals".
I love it when liberals acknowledge that Detroit failed because goys left. They're admitting society can only work with a large goy class of business owners and employees creating wealth and services.
Hey OP, guess what happens when you mindlessly support a "larger population" through immigration and rampant reproduction by the underclass? Resources are limited, including the resources that go to healthcare and education. More people means they're more thinly spread.
On child sexuality not being harmful ====================================
Research -------- Susan Clancy: http://www.salon.com/2010/01/19/trauma_myth_interview/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Clancy#The_Trauma_Myth https://www.ipce.info/library/journal-article/trauma-myth
Food for thought ---------------- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Morality_and_the_Law http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/01/07/don_t_pooh_pooh_the_left_s_push_to_normalize_pedophilia http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/when-rape-is-not-rape
On legalizing child pornography ===============================
Research -------- http://phys.org/news/2010-11-legalizing-child-pornography-linked-sex.html http://phys.org/news166769376.html http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/child-porn-witch-hunt/legal-child-pornography-reduces-child-sex-crimes-milton-diamond-hawaii https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_child_pornography_and_child_sexual_abuse
Food for thought ---------------- Falkvinge: https://falkvinge.net/2012/05/23/cynicism-redefined-why-the-copyright-lobby-loves-child-porn/ https://falkvinge.net/2012/09/07/three-reasons-child-porn-must-be-re-legalized-in-the-coming-decade/ https://falkvinge.net/2012/09/11/child-porn-laws-arent-as-bad-as-you-think-theyre-much-much-worse/
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