To anyone saying Trump has went back on his promise

>no source

>>140546796
Dems will get daca but they will trade healthcare, tax reform and the wall for it.

>>140546796
I'm a bit confused here, he said "legalize DACA" which is a strange context, also, he has been against DACA his entire campaign, also there is a lot of liberal butthurt in the comments of his tweet, as if it is saying he wants to get rid of DACA. Can someone please explain this to me?

>>140547279
He hates Daca and has ended it and will never sign any legislation to get it passed. End of story. He said this himself.

>>140547279
I don't think anyone knows how it will go. Which is just how politics work.

>>140546796
He'll do what ever he's told, because he's a spineless bitch

>>140547470
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/06/trump-daca-dreamers-tweet-justice-department-242375

Okay, thx, I got some more clarification form this. Looks like you're right, and /pol/ is just taking what he said wrong.

>>140547651
Hes not a spineless bitch Daca is done and DREAMers are going back. Just watch its going to happen.

Ah, so he's got congress to do their job, and handle the DACA situation with a Majority Republican senate, meaning, he is completely killing it, and letting them turn it into a shit.

Just gonna say this coz no one has THIS IS HOW DICTATORSHIPS ARE CREATED. This is the beginning of the end of American Democracy.

>>140548483
Yes and as he said if they somehow DO pass a DACA bill he will veto it. He said it himself. I know people are skeptical but you have to trust him when he says something like that. Liberals will freak out it'll be great and I think once we see the full scale of what he has planned all the shills will be BTFO because they tried to turn us against him but theyll have to come to terms with fact that Trump will never go back on his promises.

>>140548764
how the queen tho

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>>140548764
Good to hear, Britain

might be wrong about this but i gathered that >daca has to be renewed by the pres,
> renewal came up,
>dems/rinos panic like fuck,
> trump renews daca,
> dems shut up,
> trump then hands it to congress, for the rinos and dems to end it one way or another
>(thus his daca veto)
prediction:
>congress ends daca
>trump gets base back
>congress gets blamed by the left
>press blames congress
>opposition eats itself
win

>>140548764
These plans were laid long ago.
/pol is asleep

>>140547651

THIS.

ITS FINAL SHILLS BTFO


http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/05/politics/white-house-memo-daca-recipients-leave/index.html

>White House talking points on Tuesday urged DACA recipients to prepare for a "departure from the United States," a much starker possible future than Trump administration officials used in public when announcing an end to the program.

>>140549543
I told you and Trump told you that he would veto any legislation with DACA you have to stop doubting Trump he always has his base in mind when he makes important decisions shills needs to shut the fuck up because they think they can maniuplatue us into turning against Trump we wont though we know hes going to destroy DACA and DREAMers will go back because he said it himself and he said he would veto any legislation that included DACA including the DREAM act which he expects not to pass but if it does hell veto it anyways. It's not that hard to understand yet shills dont get that we know this and intentionally leave out this info when they pretend like Trump is going to allow DREAMers to stay by signing DACA legislation when he says himself hell veto any legisilation with DACA.

>>140547036
This. Trump is a master negotiator. He will sacrifice a temporary situation with bad politics and optics, for a permanent solution.

He's betting on our economy to weather the storm - but shoring up for future protection.

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>>140546796
its just people making fake quotes saying he went back on it. any one can do it

>>140550012
did she really say that? i thought she was a hardcore feminist

>>140546903
So OP is a lying propagandizing shill, then.

Should never have allowed them onto the board to begin with.

>>140550012
Obama called it a temporary fix and not a path to citizenship.

He caused this whole shitstorm.

MFW He will never be criticized for the shit he pulled.

>>140550012
despicable scoundrels, never seen that from pol
>kek

>>140550252
How am I lying? Trump said he will veto any legisilation with DACA in it you can look it up your self

>>140546796
>Trump: You have 6 months to make a DACA bill faggots
>Trump: Oh btw i'm gonna veto it

kek

>>140546796
nice fake pic, shill

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/05/white-house-says-trump-wants-comprehensive-immigration-reform-not-just-daca-bill.html

>>140550639
hes taken a few months, literally just a few months to get the measure of them and he is baiting them now for real.
>swamp drains itself

>>140551101
/pol anon analyzed earlier this week.
Trump is setting up dems and RINOs for failure during primary season.
MFW he gets a supermajority

>>140550651
see>>140549543

>>140548764
Good

Friendly reminder that the RAISE Act would completely restructure immigration in the United States and reduce the amount of eligible DACA recipients from 800k to just under 100k.

>>140549449
>/pol makes plan years ago
>plan works
>consp, theorist think they are "on it"
>unironiclly posts on /pol
smfh

>>140547036
sounds fine by me

can we deport the DACA kids parents please?

>>140546796
The terrible Obama-era policies will end. No matter what the MSM say.

This will be my only post. I'm only letting you know I listen

>>140547279
>I'm a bit confused here, he said "legalize DACA" which is a strange context, also, he has been against DACA his entire campaign
Trump took a rhetorical stance to specifically be against Obama's DACA executive order, which was extra-constitutional and might not have stood up to a legal challenge. He parlayed this stance along with his "build the wall" refrain (expectations for which wasn't strong to begin with and which already has been greatly undermined with regards to its financing) to assume the mantle of the strong anti-immigration guy he'd never been previous to his office seeking.

>>140548483
Ya fell for it again.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/06/donald-trump-wants-permanent-daca-deal-where-everybody-is-happy/
>>140550464
As in the link; It's Washington-speak for give me DACA, but don't call it DACA. Coming on the heels of today's news of Trump dealing with Democrats to keep the government open (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-left-reeling-after-deal-between-trump-democrats-n799326) with no mention at all of wall building, that had previously been tied to threats of a shutdown: (http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-border-wall-shutdown-2017-9), you should already be very nervous over his positioning.

>>140546796
here's the article op used for fake screenshot
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/05/white-house-says-trump-wants-comprehensive-immigration-reform-not-just-daca-bill.html

>>140551283
i know, the funny thing for me is, i have an uncanny feeling that he is fucking well on it like pulling a nigger off your grandma.
why are his opposition so concerned?
if he really was crap at it, they would let it fall from within surely?

>>140551504
Redpill me on the RAISE act. I hear its a point system based on how useful you are?

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>>140546796
TRUMP VETO DAKKA!?
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!
ORK ANGREE!

>>140552524
Let's archive
>http://businessinsider com/trump-border-wall-shutdown-2017-9
https://unvis.it/businessinsider.com/trump-border-wall-shutdown-2017-9

you dumb fucks come here first without reading the news instead of doing it the other way around.

that makes you about as internet savvy as my grandmother.

no wonder you get shill'd on.

>>140546796
bump, shills can get fucked
we know our President.
>>140547036
dems won't get shit
watch

>>140547036
That's pretty good.

>>140553049
and you sir, are a faggot

>>140547036
Theres no healthcare. A 60 mile long wall. And a bunch of cheesy zionist hurricanes and commie dictators
>naster megotiator

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>>140550464
>>140552524
>>140552535
But as we can see, you're more invested in the lying and thew propagandizing to take actual information seriously, or have others base their opinions on actual information.

>>140553402
As soon as I read OP I thought, "it seems strange MSNBC would say he kept his promise and pleased his fans". That's the vocabulary of a fat diabetic baby. WHY IN THE FUCK DOES THIS PLACE BLATANTLY LIE SO MUCH? Kikes

>>140553577
he wants a merit based system. so basically he wants to kick out all the pablos that mow lawns and sell fruits in those carts at the park

>>140553577
http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/05/politics/white-house-memo-daca-recipients-leave/index.html

>White House talking points on Tuesday urged DACA recipients to prepare for a "departure from the United States," a much starker possible future than Trump administration officials used in public when announcing an end to the program.

>>140553736
I dont believe you. Oops. Fucking full of it

>>140546796
so he uses a bunch of innocent kids as hostages

>>140553812
did you not see his joint address to congress speech? you fag?

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>>140546796
Pic related

>>140547279
he should legalise the 800k with actual citizenship, not the second class citizenship they have right now, lay it out in plain english so people understand what daca was and how bad it was for the dreamer faggots. trump looks like he has a heart liberals can't say shit or reee. then just set ICE loose on the rest of the illegals and build that juicy wall.

>>140553953
>kids

That are over 18, in other words, adults

>>140546796
Trump wants a specific bill for DACA. Democrats said they will sideload DACA into every bill they create if they dont get everything what they want. this is just more fake newz

>>140546796

Damn straight. They need to go back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh25DB-sfwo

>>140546796
There are three groups of DREAMers in my opinion:
1) those who were actually brought by parents at a very young age
2) those who came on their own 16-30 years old (jumping on the bandwagon)
3) those who are bad (committed crimes, leechers, professional protester/rioters)

Group 2 and 3 I really hope have to go back. Group 1 I don't care if he uses as a bargaining chip, it's too radioactive politically, better to just extract concessions with it.

>>140546796
Sage

You fucking troll.

>>140546796
Post a source you fucking trump shill

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>>140549543
>>140553763
>I'll post it again
You know what that's not? Policy.

Rhetoric is not policy. When will casuals learn this?

>>140553663
I guess that was to my reposted >>140553577
Yeah, it's not even a cleverly disguised edit. But who checks sources these days, anyway, amirite?

As usual Trump is signaling on every side of the issue leaving everyone confused about his actual intentions. This is how he gets what he wants.

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>>140546796

It's so bizzare how you fucking loser COINTEL each other. If you lie to each other that doesn't change reality, it just makes you a cabal of fucking morons.

Here is the real pic from that article, note timestamp and here' the link to the source:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/05/white-house-says-trump-wants-comprehensive-immigration-reform-not-just-daca-bill.html

And you faggots have the fucking gall to call others "shills" Fucking LOL. Stay dumb.

>>140554723
Again you are using rhetoric I am using internal memos....

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>>140550001
He is the same as all the rest, powerless puppet.
Not even Trump could save the US government from itself.

>stoke tension in asia
>green light massive arms contract a week later
>literally zero need to do anything but ignore the chinese buffer zone or NK as the media calls it.

>>140554878
They changed article name after yesterday which is when I downloaded the screenshot. I did not photoshop the headline they changed it

>>140549251
BIN THAT PUP!

>>140546796
It is art of the deal bitches, he is going to get the wall in return for extending DACA

>>140546796
At least
1. Provide a source
2. Clean up your grammar
You lost everyone at "say's" you fucking retard.

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>>140552905
WAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!

>>140546796

He ended Daca. Now he tells Congress to pass it as legislation.

So he gets to tell his legion of full blown retards on the_donald that he ended Obama's illegal executive order. Now the faggot Republicans get to do what they always wanted and attempt to service Latino cock.

They will work with Democrats to get something passed. Trump will sign it. It will be amnesty in all but name.

Fox news and Breitbart go full shill pushing how the process comports with civic nationalism, accept it goyim.

Trump then crawls into his bed so Jared can affix his cock in a cuck cage branded with stars of David.

>>140546796
DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA

>>140554878
>It's so bizzare how you fucking loser COINTEL each other. If you lie to each other that doesn't change reality, it just makes you a cabal of fucking morons.
It's what happens when people and groups try to use a free and open political discussion board as /pol/ is for participatory politics in order to advance agendas. The very act of attempting this invites all manner of disinformation.

>>140554888
>I am using internal memos....
A self-initiated leak to take a public position ahead of legislative negotiations.

Rhetoric.

>>140555509
>They changed article name after yesterday which is when I downloaded the screenshot. I did not photoshop the headline they changed it
The artifacts present in your opening pic reveals otherwise, that you in fact did not do a straight-up screengrab, but rather acquired your opening pic from elsewhere, or wish for other to reach that conclusion.

Now compare yours with >>140553577, >>140554878.

>>140556717
>he is telling them to prepare to leave because he really does not think they will
>I believe in 4dchess but only when its not a positive for trump

>>140546796
>DACA
why the fuck does everyone think think that DACA can get "legalized". It's a fucking executive order. Obama created it

>>140546796
>Muh broken promises
Nigga, trump only been in office for half a goddamn year! Calm yo tits! GO TRUMP #MAGA

>>140555894
I dont need a source. Trump already said he would veto any lesiglation with DACA in it. DREAMers are going back. Deal with it.

>>140556915
I believe my conclusions based on all the available information, not just the one you want cited.

>>140548764
What is? Ending a shitty executive order?

>>140546796
let's archive the source, shall we
https://archive.fo/Ebrft
>>140549543

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>>140557247
>I don't need a source
When you post bullshit? Yeah, you do. That's why nobody here is taking you seriously, you fucking mong. What is it, your first day with ShareBlue? This isn't YouTube/Reddit/FB. When someone makes a claim here, either a source is provided or we call you a faggot. Which you are.

>>140557247
>I dont need a source.
I dont need a source.
>I dont need a source.
I dont need a source.
>I dont need a source.
I dont need a source.
>I dont need a source.
I dont need a source.
>I dont need a source.
I dont need a source.
>I dont need a source.

Then get the fuck off of /pol/. We've had enough of you fact-free shilling.

>>140553953
They're not innocent. They're criminals. Every illegal alien is a criminal.

>>140557259
You mean including everything he has said regarding Mexicans and immigration?

>>140554219
Reagan amnesty didn't work. We are not falling for that trick again

>>140554165
pic related is right, fuck sake nearly lost hope there...

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>>140558559
>rhetoric + rhetoric = ...not rhetoric?
No.


Specifically, I mean the other data points I've already brought into the discussion which you will not address. >>140552524

>>140558909
What data points do you have.....

>prepare for rhetoric against a internal memo outline

>>140554219
all your doing is kicking the can down the road.
trump aint that way inclined

>>140556446

He didn't end DACA. He said it might end 6 months from now...or maybe it won't. He'll "revisit it."

>>140556967

You just compy the tenets of it into a bill that becomes a law. It's not hard to do.

Suddenly once again Executive Orders are bad things when they're Obama's but when Trump is doing them they end up on the list of ACCOMPLISHMENT!

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>>140559213
>What data points do you have.....
The links to stories already posted which were analyzed by myself within a broader context than the one link you want discussed in lieu of any others--and referenced just five minutes ago when I provided a reference link to said post >>140552524, which you'll again pretend doesn't exist to again avoid discussion of them.

This is fun.

>>140554219
fuck off they need to go back

>>140547036
I'll take that deal.

>>140560151
Starting to feel like you're pissing in the wind, anon. They've made a career out of pretending to be retarded. Some sort of deep trance method acting.