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What's become of us so meek to accept all the oppressions of a foreign nation in exchange for supplement humiliation and enforced irrelevance? Deprived of our Kings and power, beholden to a foreign tribe, enthralled by an aristocratic class with no regard for our people and a cowardly desire to have us fail and not flourish.

Read our Declaration of Independence (Arbroath), wherein our noblemen state that 'For so long as there shall but one hundred of us remain alive we will never give consent to subject ourselves to the dominion of the English. For it is not glory, it is not riches, neither is it honours, but it is liberty alone that we fight and contend for, which no honest man will lose but with his life.'

At what cost would you give up your freedom?
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We Scots once fought for God and family.

Now it is for handouts and cheap drink. Sick, venal. Weakness which deserves destruction.

This is not a bad thing because rebirth can only be found in death. My dream is to live long enough to see the seed of that new birth sprouting.
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You might add ingratitude to the list of achievements:

'PUBLIC spending per head in Scotland is almost £1,500 greater than the UK average, according to new Treasury figures.'

Bbbbut muh freedom!
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Cucks.
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>>140545706

A lot of truth in that anon

Seen mad levels of degeneracy in the places I grew up in. The reason I think Scots are unironically not as racist as the English, our own people can and do act worse than niggers.

How we can fix it I'm not sure maybe just a cycle till the cunts mend their ways or get rekt totally
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>>140546515
Come up to Scotland see if that 1500 extra that we pay for could evenly remotely make up for how much wealthier and better built our country is, despite having far more landmass and coast to be maintained per capita than england.
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>>140544725
SNP fuckred themselves sucking that EU cock.
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>>140547297
If things were 'fixed' it would buck the trend of every other civilization which has ever existed. There is no reverse gear on the decay train.
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>>140544725
Why don't you solve our problems then mate? You cant get rid of societal degeneration with the snap of yir fuckin fingers. SNP have fucked us with their stupid independence. The UK now looks week and the torys will use it as a reason to fuck the SNP. That fuckin witch nicola has been talking to those EU cunts which fucked brexit and made the torys pissed. Scotland is shite mate unless you can get rid of heroine or make it no cool then we will continue to be fucked.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SCOTKEKS BTFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp-5bcrrBu0
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>>140547478
Terrible sentence construction, clearly you Scotch are doing a poor job of learnin yer young uns at English
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I agree with OP.
English or Scottish, we should all agree that Independence should be desired at all costs.
The SNP are useless but I love my country and I'm proud of my heritage.
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>>140546515
We pay more than you per head.

Its hillarious everytime you ignore this when you fucking greet about spending.
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>>140544725
>Deprived of our Kings and power

Britain was founded and ruled by a Scottish dynasty for a century.

>power

Scotland benefitted more than anyone from the Empire.

>beholden to a foreign tribe

Ethnically we are identical to you. Only a few hundred thousand Anglos, Saxons and Jutes crossed to English shores.

>enthralled by an aristocratic class

Scottish people, despite representing a tiny portion of the UK's population make up a massive percentage of the political elite class in London. The Labour government was literally known as the "Scottish Mafia" for that reason.

>no regard for our people

Scots have been bribed for two decades, with all of the manufacturing and navy work moved up to you, HMRC and other government departments moved up there, improved transport links etc.

>desire to have us fail and not flourish.

Scottish people get free prescriptions and free university.

Fuck off Scotcuck.
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>>140549766
Let's also not forget that not only are you cucked externally, you are also cucked internally: http://archive.is/FVTLH

'Scotland has the most inequitable land ownership in the west.'
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>>140549550
Good to see you living up to the stereotype of the foul mouthed Scotch.
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were a nation of leeches and hypocrites.The same people who voted NO for independence are the same people who now want Scotland to leave the UK and join the EU cause its easier to leech off. We say Thatcher was the worst thing to happen to Scotland. Its really the growing socialism.
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>>140552463
right wing independence supporters exist
categorising all indy supporters to the left is shameful
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>>140552463
I wasn't calling independence supporters socialists. Im calling the people who NOW want Scotland to leave the UK in order to join the EU socialists.
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>>140550529
>'Scotland has the most inequitable land ownership in the west.'

All chored by the English
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>>140553159

I'm as right as it is possible to be without getting booted from my job and arrested.

100% support Scottish independence

The leftist nonsense from the SNP makes me puke though
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>>140554182
I wholeheartedly support independence, even if it would hurt Scotland economically. But the way we act and behave. Do we even deserve it?
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>>140546515
Taxation is higher in Scotland too, cunt.
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>>140554663
Wrong attitude.
You're judging the whole nation off some tiny stereotypes.
We used to be a proud people, let's take that back starting with Independence.
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>>140549766
>Scottish people, despite representing a tiny portion of the UK's population make up a massive percentage of the political elite class in London. The Labour government was literally known as the "Scottish Mafia" for that reason.

When OP said in thrall to an aristocratic class, he didn't say an ENGLISH aristocratic class. There are elite class Scots as well, such as the Scottish Mafia.
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>>140554663

If the average Scot cares more about fitba and their two weeks in Spain over the the future of their nation, then no we don't deserve it
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For the love of God, please grow a pair of bollocks and actually vote leave next time. Maybe then you cunts will stop whinging about the English and get the true Socialist paradise you crave.
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>>140544725
>foreign nation
Scots and the English are practically the same people, you idiot.
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For such a small nation, the Scots do make a lot of noise.

Be independent, or not. Just shut the fuck up for once.
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>>140555528
>actually vote leave next time

Vote was swung by the English living here, you dumb cunt, 70% of those from England living in Scotland voted No
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>>140554852
Anyway I like Scotland and I like Scottish people. Crazy alcoholic island nutters just like the rest of the UK and Ireland for that matter. We should stick together, not let divide us those that seek to profit from division.

That said looking at the state of Westminster I don't blame you for wanting out.
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>>140556130

When the capital city of the nation is literally jew/nigger occupied territory, you're damn right we want out.
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>>140555062
>>140555261
Its just hard not to be sad with this commie bullshit growing in Scotland. What i think is we need to stop looking at Braveheart like a documentary while at the same time saying we are oh-so oppressed by the English.

Scotland needs to purge this lazy socialist attitude and stop piggybacking off of our past heroes.
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What people fail to realise is that it would be far easier to rip out globalists in an independent Scotland.

Westminister and the British Elite have been an established evil on these isles for centuries, taking drugs, raping children, scheming the destruction of our nation etc. You'll probably point at the SNP and go "LOOK! THAT'S YOUR NEW GOVERNMENT IF YOU VOTE YES!" and that isn't true. Upon achieving independence, the SNP's true goal will have been completed and there is a 98% chance that they'll disband.

In indy Scotland, it would be insanely easy to organise far right violence to strike fear into globalists. The centralised Police Scotland is of no benefit to areas outside the Central Belt (e.g. Aberdeen) ergo there would be a crazy uncontrolled black market for all kinds of shit.
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>>140556062
Yeah, and Scottish-born voters were evenly split, "dumb cunt". Doesn't stop you retards from all complaining. Go get shot up at Dunblane plz.
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>>140556373
Yes but your gay Scottish politicians literally want you to be Mogadishu, so choose your poison wisely
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>>140557137
the phoenix must burn to emerge anon

the race war is the only thing that will save this generation
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>>140556733
that's easymode for the British army to waltz in over whatever paltry defense force you will have and reassert (((law and order)))
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>>140557425
And then we'll be back under the heel of the pedo elite. Is that REALLY what you want?
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>>140557692
Mate I don't even want the UK to be a country any more and I'm English. BREXIT followed by a collapse of the state would be the best thing for this country as a whole.
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>>140544725
>tfw Scottish ancestry
Yeah yeah, inb4 Amerifat mutt. I like my ancestry. Everyone here came from somewhere else, but if it weren't for Scottish master race, I wouldn't be here. What's the general consensus in the political atmosphere there, in terms of the EU and immigration? Are burgers getting a load of BBC garbage, or is Scotland truly going the way of Sweden?
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>>140544725

>What's become of us so meek to accept all the oppressions of a foreign nation in exchange for supplement humiliation and enforced irrelevance?

Yeah, the EU are a bunch of cunts
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>>140553159

>voting to leave to give power to a party you disagree with and the EU
>Scotland

>>140555688

Just like you and Mexico right?
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>Scotland
>Oppressed
Jog on jock, you lot have it easier than in the north of England
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Scotland is part of the UK because a Scot inherited the English throne. Why are you dumb enough to think you're oppressed? Braveheart?
>>140558474
Scotland is cucked but ideologically, not directly like London or Birmingham.
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>>140559199
Checked. One thing leads to another. Hopefully there's a more conservative reform in Scottish ideology, before it becomes terminal. There's no hope for the U.S., but Scots can still stay white if they try.
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>>140558474

It's Sweden of the British isles, except they get shielded by England (mostly London) on the immigration part, which makes them even more hungry for migrants.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WbGNU1Kpbc

Scotland owns me, heart and head and hand
Scotland owns me, and I own no other land
I’ve got nae wish to die for Scotland
For that would nae gain a thing
But for every waking hour I’ll live to see her free again

Freedom from what asks the quisling
Our English Lords are kind, aye
But while Scotland’s laws are English made, I’ll ken nae piece of mind
The quisling cries aloud again
See poverty is dead, there’s hostels for the sick
And the poor, and old, aye all are fed

Dinna bite the hand that feeds you; pal, my faither always said
There’s dole queue’s for the living and death grants for the dead
Aye, if a man can find nae work, the dole m’aye provide
But can a man still be a man, if he’s lost his pride
This land of was surely pockled for the ancient Celtic tribe
While mony a Scottish, Judas hand received a Saxon bribe

A land of heroes once we were, micht be again nae doubt
But quisling traitors, dank and foul, must still be weeded out
When Robert Bruce had claimed the throne and independence rocked
He wasn’t King of Scotland, but created King of Scots
And so this land of Scotland cannot be owned by man
But borrowed by our ain folk, for length of one life span

Aye, Scotland owns me, heart and hand and head
And the sovereign soil of Scotland can claim me when I’m dead
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>>140559493
It's odd because the SNP used to be pretty right wing, even anti-EU (it was called the Tartan Tory Party for a while).
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>>140559531
Fuck me, nevermind.
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>>140559830
What changed with them, and when?
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>>140559946
I honestly have no idea, but I want it to come back.
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>>140559844

Don't get me wrong, theres still hope, nowhere in Europe is "lost". They just need to stop being useful idiots and voting for parties that don't give two fucks about them because of some weird inferiority complex they have regarding the English. In a way it would be a lot better for them if they left the UK because then England wouldn't be there to shield them from all their stupid decisions.
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>>140560153
Detaching from England might give them the breath of fresh nationalism the need right now, as well, or we could hope. I'd rather see a divided UK than a brown Europe.
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>>140559946
seemed to be when labour moved to the centre they grabbed the left.
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>>140544725
Given up on Scotland.
Amusingly it wasn't the independence no vote, but the swing towards voting for Ruth Davidson's Tory party. I could just barely swallow voting Tory, but Ruth Davidson goes over and above that. A fat, short lesbian leading the ""Conservative"" party. What a joke.

Have concluded since then that all the good Scots decided to emigrate and make their lives elsewhere. I plan to do the same.
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>>140560357
So sad to see political opportunism sink entire white countries. Good god, there isn't enough rope on Earth to hang all the traitors, is there?
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>>140560328

It'l be good for England too, Scotland for decades has propped up a lot of Labour governments in the past that have caused many of the issues we face today, though to give them credit they recently did change their voting habbits for the better.

>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2017/results/scotland
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>>140560627
The virtue signalling from all parties in Holyrood is off the chart levels of cringe. So many fags and pakis pushed into power to look 'progressive'. I'm sure the green party leader is a 'bisexual'. Absolute fucking degenerate.
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Scotland is shite now.

Gentrification in the cities whilst more and more homeless kick about strangely enough. Dreary weather which doesn't let up and more and more migration.

The police are horrible too. They don't do anything and drive about in vans all day. Britain is finished as is Scotland. Let it go and run away as soon as you can.
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>>140560838
Ever political party here is a traitor in some way. There is not one politician I can think of working towards policies that aren't handouts, raising taxes, virtue signalling rapefugee shit or spiting another party.
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>>140556733
>In indy Scotland, it would be insanely easy to organise far right violence to strike fear into globalists

Idiot, the so-called "globalists" are you put them love right-wingers. Right-wingers are good goys for capitalism.
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>>140556733

This. Been saying it for years.

>>140559067

You lot have always been servile, and you have it worse because you tolerate it worse and take it as evidence you are big men.
We are oppressed for as long as we are subordinate to this faggot union that only exists to make money no matter what has to be sacrificed.

>>140559946

What changed was the quibbling from foreigners and English settlers about nationalism, the papers were even running shit about 'Anglophobia', if you can believe it.
I wish that were true. The SNP started making these gestures to show that they were modern, to appeal to students and so on. Was a colossal fucking mistake, but they are so insular and top-heavy that they don't understand how badly they've fucked themselves.

If you're talking about economics, then they changed when Salmond and his clique became the hegemonic current within the party, they were always the party's left wing, even though they are perfectly happy to pimp out the country to whoever can pay.
Honestly its a good thing that they dropped tory economics, it can't and won't work here.

I could go on and on and on, but there's no point to it. People here aren't half as cucked as /pol/ makes out, the cucks are just the loudest, and the closest to Edinburgh and Glasgow, the only two cities where you can get heard in this country.
They are disgusting scum, poofy, mincing students with those weird accents who lean hard on how proletarian their parents are to establish that they are 'down to earth'.
To them, Scotland is a joke. See you jimmy hats and Irn Bru and being more tolerant than England, very little else.
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>>140560627

Fuck sake most people don't even know who Ruth Davidson is mate. Don't emigrate, we need nationals.
The idea that its the good ones who emigrate is totally backwards, they're all mercurial cunts who'd pimp out their mothers if you paid in advance.

>>140560944

Tories have not protected the nation in a hundred and twenty years, while that same party sold off the industry and turned Britain into a whorehouse. Labour has at least provided for people on a physical level, and their electorate kept them from the most egregious cuckoldry for the vast majority of its existence.
Labour has at least a vague sense of social responsibility, hence why they are more popular here.

>>140561821

Far right = national socialist.
The state should be national.
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Scotcucks wouldnt even vote for independence, have little time for them.
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>>140561837
>People here aren't half as cucked as /pol/ makes out, the cucks are just the loudest
this desu. A lot of people that vote SNP don't even read or watch anything about politics to know that SNP are commie tier leftys.
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>>140562979

Said this in the last thread, will say it again.
52% of actual Scots voted for independence, the immigrants tipped it by a wide margin. We got Quebeced.
Naturally, the judaised SNP refused to make anything of this information.

>>140563037

The cucks are voting for St. Jeremy now, thank fuck. Doesn't matter who leads the 'Scottish' Labour party so long as the old man is in charge, he'll get the poof vote.
Let them all come out of the woodwork and expose themselves, like the fucking maggot hypocrites they are.
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