Is masturbation in general degenerate, or only porn?

>>140513716
I feel bad for Boogie because I once was in the same situation. I wasn't as fat as he was of course but still I understand. Food can be addicting.
The solution is poverty. If you don't have money. You are forced to eat less food. Sooner or later you will adapt to that and lose your addiction to food.

Problem is he is rich as fuck and junk food in the US is cheap. That's why you Americans are morbidly obese.

I dont have any sound reasoning behind this but no i dont think masturbating is as bad if you arent watching porn. I feel great when i dont masturbate, but ive heard this is due to increased T, and that it starts to go back to normal levels and even decrease once youve gone like 10 days +.

Is it best to not jerk off at all or only once a week or two?

>>140514068
You lack self control. You are a slave.

>>140513716

You will not reboot your brain until you stop both.

www.yourbrainonporn.com

Masturbation was considered a disease and disorder in both Western and Eastern civilizations until the fraudulent work of Alfred Kinsey in the '50s.

>>140514175
Free test decreases but only because your body is absorbing it all iirc. Not at all is definitely best option but it won't kill you

>>140514256
self control is an illusion

>>140513716
Don't know about masturbation, but there's plenty of information on porn-induced ED.

>>140513716
>>140514175
you people are fucking weird
masturbation is great. if we don't have time for sex me and my girl masturbate together. it was a massive revelation for me when i discovered i like someone watching me cum.

>>140514569
Is this what fatties tell themselves.?

>>140514175
that ascending to godhood at 90+ is a meme. I always feel best around days 4 to 7 or so of not jerking off. Going 40 days or so without touching your penis is pretty unbearable though, always become horny and creepy

Porn is a bit overstimulating, but I can watch it and jerk off daily and still crave real sex and orgasm perfectly fine. Those ED-type people may have other problems with them. I simply find porn and daily masturbation to oppose my world views so I try to avoid them

>>140514569
doesn't matter what it is
it has a real counterpart in the real world with real effect

>>140513716
I'm sure over masturbatinf isn't good generally but the real problem is how overconsumption of porn fucks with your brain >>140513716

>>140514175
Idk intend to jerk off like 4-5 times a week when single 1-3 times when I have a girl to bang

I find if I don't jerk off at all with a girl I cum to fast, if I jerk of too much I can't get hard

>>140513716
I would stop masturbating completely

Ofc, if you have been masturbating all your life its too late for you. Your decreased testosterone levels during puberty has already made you shorter and more effeminate.

>>140514068
>The solution is poverty

>downtown in my city
>everyone apparently broke af
>everyone is fucking fat

when i get low on money i drop weight like crazy, but apparently these people just pack it on

>>140515183
>I find if I don't jerk off at all with a girl I cum to fast

for me its an absolute craps shoot. i either bust instantly or last hours when i dont fap, i dont care though, fapping usually leads me to going back to porn so i just cut it out completely

>>140515451
Fat people that keep harping on being broke are broke because they buy all the unhealthy junk food and treats. The US should highly tax junk food. You do that with cigarettes. So what's the difference?

>>140513716

Nah the problem is porn. Masturbation is fine.

Too much exposure to visual stimulation can lead to lack of interest. Imagination is only a fraction of a real image. When you see a real person naked the impact is much bigger after lack of porn.

>>140515873
"Food desert" meme. Poor people can get any sort of foods they like, they simply like greasy and sugary foods. Republicans don't support those sort of taxes, and the Dems don't support it for that reason

there is a reason why 99% of the porn industry is owned by jews. Don't watch it. Perversion is bad

>>140516159
Of course if you have to choose between buying produce and fresh ingredients and preparing your meal versus buying a big mac in 5 minutes at the local McDonalds. Obviously they will choose the latter.

>>140514691
I would consider masturbating to your gf masturbating in person a sex act. Im talking about guys with no gfs jacking off daily to porn. Its terrible for your well being.

>>140513716
Yes, masterbation is degenerate. If you stop porn you substitute it with imagination which is just as deadly since you create more and more depraved fantasies in your brain each time.

The ultimate redpill is that sex itself is degenerate and it's only use should ever be for procreation and nothing else. Recreational sex being a human right is a kike meme meant to control the guys and keep their men feminized.

Masturbation is fine, of course as with basically everything, in moderation. I prefer the same method as with a dieting for the gym; one cheat-day per week.

Porn is fucking bad for your mind though, no debate about that.

Try to fuck a girl often, it is good for your health. No matter if wife, gf or escort, the real sexual act with other human is good for you. I think regular fucking is more important than doing nofap or noporn.

>>140514844
Thats what ive always thought. I feel like ill be a starving dog if i go months without having my dick touched. I dont have any ED issues or libido issues either even when watching porn/wanking daily, i just want to stop because the times ive gone 1-2 weeks i felt fucking amazing. Now that ive noticed this i realize how much of a zombie i am when i do it often.

>>140516820

This man speaks the reddest pill.

>>140515451
They aren't truly broke, they're on gooberment gibbs and spend all their money on junk food instead of actual food and savings.

>>140514068
I found that weaning off fast food starts with avoiding self-shame. If I catch myself going to a drive-thru, instead of stopping myself, I go there and get a bottle of water, or some apple slices. I could have not gone but that wouldn't change my diet's result, and I would be stewing on the hunger.

Another tactic is making cheating count. Make disruptions to the schedule not just a habitual thing but a proper affair. Get the best and biggest cheeseburger and largest fries, make it take a hit on the wallet. It's calorically just as bad, but it isn't as shameful or spur of the moment, it's better for socializing or going out in public, and it associates dinner out with special occasions you have to save for and plan for, than the fast food trap. You end up learning to save money and find deals anyway, the fast food is causing a bad diet by distracting you from cooking with its convenience. It's the unholy marriage of food options.

>>140516820
Ha ! Look at The virgin.

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there is nothing wrong with porn and masturbation.

Do you guys just resist porn or do you block it out completely on your browser some how? I've tried resisting and it works for a bit, but it's not perfect.

>cucking yourself out of porn

moralcucks never fail to make me laugh.

>>140514569
the idea that "self control is an illusion" is an illusion.
self control is real.

>>140513716
just stop all together, i finally have as well as dudeweed.
feel much better about myself.
and if thats all i get from it oh well.
100% worth it.

>>140519475
Why aren't you banned?