Why do millennials question religion but not science?

dude I fucking love science haha religion is stupid only idiots believe in something they can't see or prove empirically is real haha didn't you see interstellar all that matters is life and science bro
*passes bong*

You can prove science but you cannot prove God.

>>140447729
A large portion of published scientific research goes unverified these days.

>>140447729
Science is a process by which you prove things not a thing to be proven you fucking cuck

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>>140447677
Because it's the zeitgeist. Most people cannot question the norms they live in. They believe they are doing so, but they're actually just questioning the norms of a bygone era, thinking themselves progressive-minded for being against the dominant ideology of the 1500s.

>>140447464
90% of them have liberal arts degrees, and will never know what it means to be up against a clique of academics who have decided their specialization is complete and any new work therein is hogwash.

>>140447464
because mommy and daddy forced them to wake up early and go to church instead of being "fun" parents and taking their kids to backyard punk rock shows. all these kids are literally just rebelling against mommy and daddy aka the establishment to make up for all those hours of being a nice person.

>>140447464
Ironic, but questioning science is what makes science science.

>>140447464
Science questions itself all the time. Idiot.

>>140447464
Because your not supposed to question anyone that could possibly be a teacher.

>>140447464
you fucking retards stop responding to this guy, all he does is ask questions starting with "why do millennials..." and posts this caked up esports whore

>>140448336
Pretty sure the science is settled. You're just pushing pseudoscience. Need to jail people like you for thoughtcrime.

>>140447677
Yeah, believing something you can't even see or touch is a belief for idiots.

See my dick? Go ahead, touch it. I still believe I'm a woman though and you should legally be forced to believe it too.

>>140448536
Yeah wouldn't want to slide the BBC threads.

>>140448655
Pretty sure you have no idea how science is made, questioned and build on.

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>>140448655
>“What we know is a drop, what we don't know is an ocean.” -Isaac Newton

>>140447464
Not mutually exclusive

>>140447865
citation: your ass

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>>140447464
They haven't figured out that man was made for religion, and that ((science)) has become an antireligion, with it's inverted dogmas and original sin. The world is quickly moving to the polar opposite of a Christian kingdom

>>140447464
Science is measurable.
Religion is not.

>>140448864
Pretty sure you're just pushing some kind of anti science agenda. Why would we question the things we already know?

>>140447464
>Why do millennials question religion but not science?

They do. It's just more like like:

>Is this research/finding racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/islamophobic/etc.?
>I can't believe this research/finding because it's racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/islamophobic/etc.

Because science is hella f*cking epic, bill nye said so *holds up graph* did you know that gender is a spectrum, it's proven science, HELL YEAH SCIENCE! ^^;;

>>140448375
By scientists. Plebeians are happy to be stupid and take their word for it rather than question their own reality which we should all be participating in.

>>140448251
I was never forced to go to church, nor were my parents highly religious. I was told there is a god and that he watches everything you do but I personally never believed in a god or gods ever since kids in school made fun of me for think that the earth was god when I was 11/12 years old.

>>140449051
>half of claims go unverified
>doesn't verify the claim
Whoa science!

>>140449108
Educate yourself on science, scientific theory, and peer review. It's so embarrassing to see somebody so wrong and confident. It's clear you haven't taken any intro science class.

>>140447729
>is a living breathing sentient being
>implies absence of a Creator
makes sense

>>140447464
Why do retards and mods give her free advertisement?

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>>140447464
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I See this picture posted often.

Who is SHE !!!!????

>>140449088
>"Science is measurable"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle

>>140447464

why do they think they believe in science but believe in unscientific things like transgenderism?

>>140447464
they are told by (((them))) not to

>>140447965
This. I'm an oldfag pharma scientist and it's horrifying to watch science become Science. Scientific methodology is just a systematic way of answering questions about the natural world. It provides no insight into the metaphysical world of your soul, your identity, the nature and origins of good and evil, or anything else that isn't a tangible part of the natural world.

>>140447464
Implying they don't have fits about GMOs and vaccines.

>>140447464
Science has become some sort of a new gospel, not only milenials do this make a pic about how eating makes white women become gold hoarders and put some really weird links as source there you go now some guys here take it as a fact

>>140447965
This
It's a method, not a collection of absolute truths (admittedly a fact that both political aisles forget)

On the one hand, science is iterative and fallible and dependent on the accuracy of permanently inaccurate tools (that are getting better all the time)

On the other, just as you apply reason that you aren't likely to get killed walking outside and so err on the side of likelihood, you must also act on science similarly. It is safer to act as if the most well supported findings at a given moment are true than not, if we are to acknowledge that every decision we make, personally and politically, is based on imperfect information and probabilities

>>140450169
Well obviously because white male Christians discovered XX and XY chromosome pairs.

>>140447464
They do: biology

>>140447464
Grad student in CS here. Most research we have done so far is so simple we haven't even begun to scratch the surface of what we can do. Once you hit the boundary of what human knowledge has accumulated over time it typically becomes clear that certain areas are still in flux and thus relatively easy to expand upon. I've thought on this subject for years now: where is the original, provable, truth? You can't know anything without assuming something to be true, akin to having faith in something for no logical reason. This irritates me to no end desu, since this means there's no objectively best way to live and most truths are more determined by the public's general consensus rather than any type of irrefutable proof.

>Why do millennials X

Someone needs to add these templates into the banlist. It's obvious forum sliding.

>>140449624
Maybe you need to educate yourself because a lot of shit is figured out already. If tons of people have already agreed on the facts then that fits all your little check boxes.

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>>140449108
Because you don't know anything. There are things you think you know, and then there are things that you will NEVER know. There's no greater indicator of stupidity than the kind of arrogance you demonstrate.

>>140449949
some dumb danish whore employed by blizz, there are no nudes of her

check out liara roux, a much more attractive actual whore with a similar vibe

>>140450599
Oh and I suppose you go out and repeat every experiment ever done because you're such a logical thinker. Maybe you're ignorant and you don't even know it.

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>>140447464
dood rick and morty is so like deep man stop trying to be serious all the time just let science do its thing and EDUCATE people man you need to get laid man just stop worrying

>>140449059
If you want to live in the desert and fuck camels, by all means it explains why you're shooting at the other people who do that to beat the competition

>>140447464
Because to believe in science is a fall back, anyone can claim to follow science and their an instant intellect. It's easy to say "I believe in science" and then two sentences later give an opinion on something that isn't science like left wing politics.

>>140450547
If you paid attention in high school science class you would have known that nothing is 100% certain. While we have established concepts that we are certain to the extent of our knowledge on them are true-we can never truly know if it is true or not.

>>140451175
Sounds like faith to me.

>>140447464

Science isn't faith you fool

>>140451310
Are you retarded? Believing something is 100% certain is faith

>>140448005
Your pic is right.

>>140451541
Uh there's a thing called laws.

>>140451677
Laws are rules set by our current understandings of how things work. If something comes up that contradicts it, the law is null

you mean "pseudo-science" because (((they))) say so on television and smartphone social apps???

>>140447464
Because discusing religion is easier than discusing reality issues like soft science and shit and even more easier than getting educated enough to cast a serious and respectable opinion on hard science, just look the different transit between any board and /sci.

Also, I guess some people really find self entitling and empowering the act of questioning a very subjective matter such as religion. Religion per sé is as complex or absurd as you like to approach it, but is opportunistically comfortable and biased to look at it in a cynic way just to make yourself feel smarter.

Also too, is the only thing some people can actually brag about choosing, participate or change. Is not like everybody could have and active opinion on hard science (stem).

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>>140450859

"Morty.... what i do is science, not magic!!!"

"Morty... I turned myself into a pickle using the scientific principle of......?"

>Just call it the syringine he injected himself with a potion instead a serum.... and the difference would be what?

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>>140450849
There are things you and I can NEVER know. Heisenberg's principle is an excellent example of this.
The more certain you are of a particle's position at σx, the less certain you can be of its momentum at σp. Certainty literally creates uncertainty, in another regard. In a way, the probability theory equivalent of Newton's third law.

Tests are, further, not definitive. That is not how epistemology works.
I don't purport to have all the answers--nor is human logic a complete enough system to discern all answers--but I'll still shoot down any human that believes their tests and understanding complete.

Worth remembering that humility of knowledge is itself wisdom.

>>140447965
Actually you are wrong. Science is the process of falsification.

Checkmate, Atheists

Science:1
Atheist:0

>>140452542
So you think it's possible that stuff like climate change, evolution, and even the laws of thermodynamics are just bullshit?

>>140447464
Because it doesn't take a PhD to understand religion.

>140449356
Fuck that guy. He is only an engineer and we know that all engineers love the cock.

>>140447464
>questioning science in the current year on an infinite wisdom box

>140449624
>takes Intro to science--whatever that means
>hurr I'm a expurt in psienc noa guise

>140450252
Maybe those intangible things are philosophical in nature

>>140447677
this tbhfam. Science itself is just a method of empiric evidence, which is fine IMO. But I cannot fucking stand the "I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!(TM)" cucks who just jerk off to deGrasse-Tyson and youtube science videos narrated by platonic forms of nu-males.

>>140447464
SCIENCE is based on empirical evidence ,

>>140447464
they do, or have you not heard of the 300+ genders thing?

>>140452849
>Laws of thermodynamics
No. Those are solid. Likely, there are more laws we haven't discovered.
>Climate change
Climate change is quantifiable. Identifying a single culprit is not.
>Evolution
Domestication and genetic mutation are very real.
The consideration at hand has to do with "religion." Nothing about natural selection disproves God and/or religion. In fact, in Hinduism, 1 Kalpa is 4.32 billions years, and humans have changed over the Yugas.

>>140452849
>just bullshit
Bullshit implies intent to mislead. Maybe not bullshit, not in all cases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_861us8D9M

>>140447464
Science is the new religion. Not that most understand basic scientific principles nor do they have much of a scientific background beyond high school biology. Science is this ethereal knowledge that is set in stone and can be called upon without understanding. Your average person's view and knowledge of science is essentially Rick and Morty. If they were born in a different time or place they would all be rabid christians or mudslimes.

>>140450417
Best post

>>140447464
One is futile rambling and the other is the study and contemplation of the self evident.

>>140454349
Wow have there been climate change experiments? Evolution experiments? Seems like there should be a whole bunch since you science people like to question everything.

>>140449017
this

>>140454829
this also

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>>140455644
Yes

>>140455596
This

and science is constantly changing with our understanding while religion is text written by people seeking power and legacy thousands of years ago. Really shouldn't be hard to understand.

>>140447464
They think one is easy to understand and the other is hard, but they have it backwards.

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>>140450417
>This irritates me to no end desu, since this means there's no objectively best way to live and most truths are more determined by the public's general consensus rather than any type of irrefutable proof.

The Sutra on Totality

Monks, I will teach you the totality of life. Listen, attend carefully to it and I will speak.

What, monks, is totality ?

It is just the eye
with the objects of sight,
the ear with the objects of hearing,
the nose with the objects of smell,
the tongue with the objects of taste,
the body with the objects of touch
and the mind with the objects of cognition.

This, monks, is called totality.

Now, if anyone were to say, “Aside from this explanation of totality, I will preach another totality,” that person would be speaking empty words, and being questioned would not be able to answer. Why is this ? Because that person is talking about something outside of all possible knowledge.

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>>140450417

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>>140450417
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>>140450417
>most truths are more determined by the public's

http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt01.html Read fools she was prosecuted with dozens of others heroe of the rigth wing anti Jew movements of yesteryear and provided a chunk of the evidenciary racord to indict the jew....READ pol/ stop being ignorant of the past Protocols. Science say human life aka a 57 chevy came fout of a volcano, you are more complicated than that and the "miracle" organic lifel in a far equally as a volcane inorganic world WILL not allow for the magical composition of human life from nothing based on some bullshit fake ass non-applicable "equation" with no inherent mechanism to change alter or even another mechanism for the production/storage of protein material from godamn scratch all magically coming online at the same fucking time. Btw jews run science and worship satan....Thank you have a good night

science is bullshit, directed by the Protocols.

>>140455644
>ice cores
>domestic dogs, sheep, MRSA, resistant pathogens, etc...

>>140447464
>Why do millennials question religion but not science?

Science is their religion.

It works in mysterious ways and can be used to prove anything because 'theories'

>>140447729

>You can prove science but you cannot prove God.
I don't think you understand what the word 'science' means.

>>140447464
the large group of sub90 IQ's that don't have the hardware to think critically and live by faith and emotion have replaced the old gods with the new ones.

GOD is all, all is GOD.

>>140447464
Because science is always right. Are you a cuckhlic or sumthing?

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IOh look mom is a 4chan a "science" nigger

>>140447464
Science is the action to try in every single measurable way to prove that what you know is wrong and incorrect. So you can fix your knowledge and try again to make yourself wrong, repeating the process until you can't be wrong until someone finds a way to make your work be wrong so you start again.

Basically, science is mental masochism.

>>140450417
Also grad student with similar conclusion.
You might find this worthwhile:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dempster-Shafer_theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overfitting

I have an educated guess that our understanding of probability theory is still quite primitive.

>>140458369
The thing is all the scientists they worship all find God in the end (look it up). That is where science leads to, they plebs just don't understand it.

t.scientist

>>140447464
because science delivers
its real hard to criticise something that turns the lights on, powers communications and got us out of the dark ages. Thats it.

>>140448864
Science is literally a social construct.

DA URF IS FLET GOYS

LULULULULUL

SCIENS IS LIEZ OMG

>>140447464
It's called scientism, AKA the worship of science. The classic example of a scientistic person is Bill Nye, or Niel DeGras Tyson, they never question science.

>>140447464
Millennials deny science all the time, see; tranny rights

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>>140458643

>>140458635
Is all intelligence a social construct?

>>140447464
> Professional Scientist here

Because most are too fucking lazy to learn it. Then they're too fucking naive to understand how much shit we get wrong before we get right.

Climate hoaxing via carbons will be remembered as the great retardation of our time. Stupid cucks don't even know about our weather weapons and modification tech we've had since the fucking 60's.

>>140459166
>Climate hoaxing via carbons will be remembered as the great retardation of our time. Stupid cucks don't even know about our weather weapons and modification tech we've had since the fucking 60's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkNMgHeZIc4

>>140447865

Science: It's difficult to explain the exact origin of HIV or even polio, bet we know it exits.

Religion: Abraham never mentioned HIV or polio so it can't be important.

>>140450417

>Most research we have done so far is so simple we haven't even begun to scratch the surface of what we can do.

I'm a grad student in neuropsych. literally cutting edge research is making people read words or look at different colored lights with fmri going and then seeing what parts of the brain light up and making wild guesses about what it means.

I fucking wish I was making that up.

and then theres the 75% of the field that have either given up entirely or are dumb girls that confused their love of talking with their ability to do research so they go clinical route and everyone thinks this junk science is even worse than it is.

>>140447464
The progressive left successfully split science and faith. Either you're a repressed redneck that doesn't get medical help because Jesus will save you, or you're educated and rational and know everything.

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>>140447464
>>140459337

Science treats uncertainty with "we must learn more - dig deeper - question our technique and probe the assumptions"

Religion treats uncertainty with "God will provide. Don't ask too many questions".

I'm not here to defend millennials (op is clearly low-value bait), but to be human is to question, reflect and constantly be on the fence between comfort and chaos.

>>140459337
this is exactly what one would expect a millennial to say. I understand your viewpoint and isn't completely invalid but let me explain as a 40 year old scientist. Science at first leads you away from religion, seeking objective truth, but in the process it brings you back to it in the end full circle. Buddhist monks discovered the first law of thermodynamics (reincarnation) and Newtons third law of motion (karma) 1000's of years before science ever existed.

The Sutra on Totality

Monks, I will teach you the totality of life. Listen, attend carefully to it and I will speak.

What, monks, is totality ?

It is just the eye
with the objects of sight,
the ear with the objects of hearing,
the nose with the objects of smell,
the tongue with the objects of taste,
the body with the objects of touch
and the mind with the objects of cognition.

This, monks, is called totality.

Now, if anyone were to say, “Aside from this explanation of totality, I will preach another totality,” that person would be speaking empty words, and being questioned would not be able to answer. Why is this ? Because that person is talking about something outside of all possible knowledge.

You see you think science and religion are two different thing but that is only to those who are not Illuminated. All religions come from the "source" and if you do the research you will find it, that is where God is, but it takes intensive dedication and research also see >>140458510

That is the great secret that has always been hidden desu very few find

I have become death destroyer of worlds ~ Oppenheimer

>>140460026
>Religion treats uncertainty with "God will provide. Don't ask too many questions".

>Who is Gregor Mendel father of genetics

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But they do question science as soon as you bring racial genetics into the table.

>>140447464
Geez.... Science is a method of determining whether a hypothesis is valid or not. It is not a belief system. Religion is a belief system, because you can't prove it, you simply take it on faith that the person who wrote the bible was telling the truth.

In fact, it's come to light that the bible was never intended to be taken as literal events, but allegorical interpretations of events.

>>140452716
Why tho.

>>140459992
>Religion treats uncertainty with "God will provide. Don't ask too many questions".
>Who is Leonardo Da Vinci

>>140460526
this is all wrong you are using (((their))) sources

>>140447464
Cause science works, and you can see evidence all around you that it works.

>>140453708
Where do you get the faith that we can know empirical facts and we can reason about it. You take that for granted.

Oi vey why do millennials question (((semitic religions)))!?

>>140460526
OP Forgets that scientists stand on the shoulders of giants. There is an element of faith when you apply certain concepts, because you yourself will not be repeating those experiments.

Science and religion aren't very different, truth be told. But there is more verifiability in this corporeal realm for science, I'll give you that.

>>140454349
Solid your ass. Nothing is more puzzling than entropy.

>>140460884
Where do you get the faith this entire world and your very search for objective truth isn't the devil's deception from the moment Adam ate the apple?

>>140460526
PAy attention to how often people say "scientists say" without questioning who those scientists are or looking any further than that. They use it the same way people say "The Bible says".

>>140455596
Which is which? Anyone having some thoughts on quantum mechanics know it's a pile of crazy nonsense. Is is completely miraculous that it somehow works for many problems. As if god is fucking with us.

>>140461068
>Climate change "consensus"

Global warming is bullshit based on a bullshit computer model using a miner function on a non linear equation on the atmosphere of Venus it is complete horseshit and never has been and never will be accurate, but (((they))) will never mention the model as the source of this consensus. GIGO garbage in garbage out

>>140461279
*linear fucntion

wtf did auto correct do that?

>>140455644

Climate change, sorta
Evolution, Definately

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>>140447464
why do you make these threads?

I hope your autism is fatal

>>140447464
Millennials got trolled out on the Internet by gen y who were just doing shit for teh lulz. They're the first and only generation to believe that because it is online, it must be true; the generation of retards that use Wikipedia as a primary source and so on. You could forgive your grandma and maybe your mom for such shit but not the first gen to actually start life web-enabled. Millennial s summed up in a word? Gullible.
Obviously there exceptions to the rule. Not a lot though so it's unsurprising so many are narcisists and liberal.

>>140460526
You believe world has order and you can discover it.

>>140460851
God exists, just look around.

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>>140461611
do you realize that this dude makes this thread every two hours and has been doing so for roughly a year now?

I can't tell if it's legit autism, semi-automated data mining spam, or just flat out slide bullshit, but it always follows the same formula. He uses this chick or Steve-O (who is like 45 by the way) as the image.

Remember when the sugar industry paid Harvard scientists to say that sugar won't make you fat, that it's animal fat that does? It is always a possibility that scientists are lying for money on any given subject, and if there are no grants to scientists who disagree and those scientists are shut out of the debate because "there is no debate!", then science isn't so objective is it?

>>140447865
this
depends on which journal the study is being published in and whether it actually passes a peer review process. "A study shows" can be a very dangerous phrase

>>140461013
The faith is in me, it's innate

>>140461917
how come you can show as much tit as you want as long as you cover the nipple? Psych grad experiment and find out what it is the about the nipple that is so triggering

>>140447464
>thinks everyone is one person

why are you so fucking retarded and why don't you go find out and get back to us on that, thx

>>140462107
Science brought me to God. I was the last person in the world you would think would ever say this, but truly seek and ye shall find, he is waiting

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>>140462153
pretty sure it's inherited from british common law. there was a nipple exposure section in the Magna Carta, bro, look it up

continental europeans never really had this system and established their own body of nipple law starting during the reforms of the French revolution.

>>140461068
>"scientists say" the (((media))) told me

this is not following the word, "idols will move about" put your faith in no man put your faith in God

In this thread, a few have pondered upon the deep philosophical questions. The rest are just regurgitating normie stuff they heard from discovery channel. They are simpletons just like cavemen who have absolute certainty in what they see on the surface.

Do you even Godel.

>>140462496
I want to see dem nip on that thot

>>140447464
Because religion tells me that there was a talking snake in the early days and some other shit about eating apples

>>140462153
bodhi its ausbro here, are we gonna have nuclear war?

>>140462746
fawk mane it does not look good all I can do is give you my research man I am no prophet. Have you been keeping up with the 9/23 threads?
>>140430739

>>140462740
Science tells you there was a big bang. Why do you believe such a ridiculous thing? Because it's popular.

>>140462746
most of my research is linked to in those threads also some good info in this one where I school a shill
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/140403180

>>140462746
or here for this server >>140403180

>>140462746
I will tell you this, I am preparing for it. I myself believe 90-95% this shit is immanent but that's just me, I won't tell anyone else what to think or do

>>140462830
>>140463131
>>140463191
I haven't seen any pop up, i've been following NK happening and skyking threads the past few days

>>140460851
science should always be questioned.
it is itself the method of questioning.

you uneducated retard.

>>140463325
do a Jewgle serach for eu preparing war Russia, certainly looks like the entire word is prepping

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/829424/Finland-EU-Helsinki-underground-CITY-Russia-invasion-fears-Putin-Military-drills-Nato

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ex-soviet-leader-mikhail-gorbachev-world-preparing-war-n712891

>>140463325

Israel holds largest military (((drill))) in 20 years ‘simulating war’ with Hezbollah
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-hezbollah-military-drill-lebanon-idf-defence-force-war-simulation-syria-iran-a7930461.html

>>140463641
Archived it
https://archive.is/eEopk

>>140463325

I am always watching ev thing and shit is happening ev where

Israel holds largest military (((drill))) in 20 years ‘simulating war’ with Hezbollah
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-hezbollah-military-drill-lebanon-idf-defence-force-war-simulation-syria-iran-a7930461.html

>>140448375
Yet Science has just as much dogma as religion. How long were scientists certain Einsteins theory was correct? So many convinced and yet it was wrong. Explain that using your same defense. Science doesn't question any of its findings until the cold hard truth reveals itself.

Noah lived 930 or so years. How? He ate healthy food with vitamines and proteins, worked out, did the farm thing and had big testosterone.

>>140447464
You wouldn't even have this dumb thread without science. What has religion contributed?

Why specifically call out Millenniala about things that are in no way specific to or originate from Millennials

"Hey Gen Zyklon why is the Parthenon made of stone? Why you do that?"

FUCK!

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you should read threads bruh
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>>140447464
Science is a process, not an institution or set of beliefs.
The scientific method has well defined limits, but no dogmas.

Science and religion have nothing to do with one another, and you ought to divorce yourself from any absurd posturing by atheists or christians which posit otherwise.