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I mean...he's not wrong...

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I mean...he's not wrong...
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>>140414259
He is in implying that great brown kids at risk of deportation exist.
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>>140414259
how is he "not wrong" OP? deporting illegals literally brings more jobs to Americans. it's supply and demand and one of hte most basic principles of economics, wtf are you smoking??
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>>140414561
Yeah, it certainly frees up some shitty jobs.
Anyone excited to work in a poultry processing plant in diapers so you can piss yourself while earning peanuts will welcome the news.
Meanwhile the heavy manufacturing jobs that used to pay blue collar workers enough to live the dream stay across the border in Mexico (and all across Asia).

But you knew that.
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>>140414259
Maybe not, but it will increase wages when their is no labor surplus.
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>>140414259
He's wrong thinking the kids are getting deported.
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>>140414259

bwahahahah! did he just called that Mexican child a GOAT?!?!

define kid -> google
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>>140415124
>Yeah, it certainly frees up some shitty jobs.
>Anyone excited to work in a poultry processing plan
if it weren't for cheap mexican labor you'd be excited to work in a poultry plant, retard, because lack of competition drives up wages.
why do you think the CEOs of all of these fortune 500 companies are all supporting open borders and shit, you idiot? they're doing it because they want the low wages and the people willing to WORK for those low wages.
and it trickles UPWARD too, as the labor pool shrinks, there is less competition for all jobs and workers can command higher wages in all posts.
god you are fucking moronic or just a plain old shill.
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>>140415124
You act as if white people never did these jobs at any point. The difference is that they'll be forced to pay white people a little better when they don't have an endless stream of spics doing it for 15 cents an hour.

But you knew that.
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>>140414259
sage goes in all fields
stupid fucking idiot go get raped by monkeys fucking prick.
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"great kid" = criminal welfare collecting spic
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>>140415124
that's why we have H1B1 visa, retard! Kick out all illegals and send pajeets in with their h1b1 visa when locals won't take them! We want everyone to pay their fair share of taxes and no working under the table!

LOL! shitskins are going to be outsourced to poondaloos with a visa :D :D :D
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>>140415124
>>140415666
also
>addressing the "having borders will cause companies to operate in other countries"
isn't it fucking funny how trump, mr PRO BORDERS above all else, took office and all of these companies want to invest in our nation now? it's because your argument is bullshit, blind and ignorant. trade deals, taxes and tarrifs determine all of that, not how many fucking illegal mexicans are in your country. people like you are strangling our fucking nation with your bullshit propaganda. fuck you.
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>kid
They aren't kids. They are mostly adults
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>>140414259
>deporting because brown
So our population will be cut by 44%?
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>>140414259
Wow... This is powerful
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>>140414259
But it will give 700 Apple jobs to real Americans.
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He may not be wrong but he is still an idiot.
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>>140414259
It will bring a sweet construction job back Pedro.
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Woah...
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>>140414259

No one is being deported for "being brown". I suggest you read up on immigration law. But go ahead and keep screaming "RACIST!" at virtually EVERYTHING that doesn't go the way you want. THAT'S what is currently making people racist.
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>>140414259
i mean... you are a complete faggot...
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>>140414259
if im going to be poor because no jobs, i atleast want to live in a white society
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>>140414259
Literally who
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One less brain for leftists to wash and indoctrinate is always a win.
Our centers of education have become poison to the minds of our young, entirely ran by women, who are also leftists they have helped accelerate the downfall of this country on a scale no program could have ever dreamed.
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>>140414259
When have liberals ever known how production plant activation works
Also how the fuck does he not know about the 2 new coal mines Trump has opened up already?
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>>140414561
>one of hte most basic principles of economics
Schools don't teach economics anymore and they haven't for over 2 decades
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What if we did it 20 million times?
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>>140414259
Callate la puta boca pendejo. Que se largen a la verga los ilegales.
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>>140415124
Then there's no reason for him not to go home. Good jobs are apparently abundant.
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Why do non-whites have such a problem with law and order?
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>>140414259
Actually he is wrong, construction for instance has seen a ton of job growth, and a rise in wages.

Is he really going to argue for the home construction mega corps not making enough profit, now?
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>>140415124
>forcing employers to pay livable wages to native workers is a bad thing.

Okay.
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>>140417052
Its good to know you own no cutlery
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>>140414259
>great kid
>brown
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>>140414259
He is right, get rid of jews first.
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>>140417156
Jokes on you amerishart I've just been pre-approved for a A1/E fish fork licence, two more interviews and a home visit and i can install a certified safe, then I only have to wait the 3 month cooling off period and I'm laughing.
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It ain't about that.

We don't like brown people on a tribal level. It really is that simple.
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>>140417754
This would be funnier if it read "yes master, I am also fat and retarded"

Mist opportunatiy to make us look domb as fuck
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>>140414259

yes....he really is wrong

DreamShits are taking almost 800,000 jobs and THEY AREN'T PICKING FRUIT
Every one of them that gets deported opens up a job for an American and less jobs that require the employee to be bilingual

Get the illegal shits out of my country!!!
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>>140415124
>all the good jobs are back in mexico goy
>these mexicans have to come work for $4/hr

Im going to slap that stupid fucking hat off your head moishe
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>>140414259
But I won't have to compete for lower wages with someone who doesn't belong.
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I don't think most of us supporting dreamer deportation are concerned about the individual over the nation. Otherwise we would be libertarian, and not care. Since America is interconnected through society (tech, industry, community programs ideally) it is conscientious to be nationalistic. Libertarians will benefit from society anyway unless they go full Varg
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>>140416926

another greasy import....who needs this shit?
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>>140418178
nice lump of labour fallacy, god Amerifats are stupid
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OP is Reddit fag.
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>>140414259
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>>140414259
>deporting a kid because he's brown
How racist. Is he saying all brown people are illegal.How intolerant baka.
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>>140415124

There is a vegetable processing plant near my home. This place use to employ citizens. Now they won't even hire you if you don't speak Spanish. It's not just the people on the line sorting out bad items, its everyone from foreman to logistics.

Cesar Chavez was against illegal immigration because be wanted farm workers to unionize and knew farmers would just hire illegals and pay them pennies. Farms are modern day plantations in order to keep profits up they strive to keep wages down. Same thing with the visa programs. We train plenty of people in medical and stem fields to cover the needs, but a hospital can hire a Filipino or Indian with some bullshit degree from some backwater and pay them less. Same with stem fields.
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>>140418138
I dissagree with you, also I don't make it, yeah.
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>>140418687
he's saying all illegals are brown. very racist.
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>>140414259
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>>140414259

eliminating hundreds of thousands of low-wage workers will increase the competitiveness of american workers and raise wages

econ 101

price = demand/supply

that includes the price of labor
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>>140414259
no but it will make me feel good
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I mean, it's not like dreamers are college educated or anything, so all the college graduates who are underemployed probably won't be better off with less competition.

Right?
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like it or not, migration = american jobs. for every dollar they send back to their family in nicaragua, they put $10 into the economy. someone sells them food, repairs their cars, collects their rent, nannys their kids. thats not even counting the money they make plunging toilets at the motel 6. anyone who cant comprehend this does not understand basic economics
>b-but my aryan ethnostate
pipe dream
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drumpfies only have hate in their hearts
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>>140415943

I really hate spiggers. Is there a worse abomination?
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Actually he is wrong
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>>140414259
racism.
>implying only """brown""" people are under DACA
>implying there are no other races or countries that illegally immigrate here
>implying its about race and not laws
>implying implications
passive racism. All liberals are racist because they assume all white people are racist and that only white people run the country.
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>>140419019
Why do you hate white midwesterners?
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>>140419019
You leaves are trying really hard today and tonight.
Time to give up or switch VPNs/Amazon servers.
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>>140414259
He's not wrong because some economists and journalists have come up with the idea of inevitable Progress

Apparently this Progress is a necessity, not a choice, so sorry, steel mills and coal mines must go down, because it's 2017! They're old! Old is bad! We need to go forward! Revolution! Change!

American culture leads to suicide, because whatever is deemed as old and traditional, needs to be ditched just because. Every industrial job will be destroyed, because it's old

In reality, it's a matter of choice. You could have coal mines and steel mills in the USA if you wanted. But the intellectuals have spread the propaganda that it is contradictory with Progress which requires new things for the sake of new things
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>>140418550
Pack it up boys this post settles it.
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fuck having laws and borders and shit.
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>>140419310
(((Progress)))

Yeah, OK. Let's try that again.
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>>140418852
This.

It's infuriating reading DACA success stories on le reddit as an unemployed American with 2 degrees from a great university.

I know a lot of super smart, qualified people in a similar situation.

Saying, "hey look at me I am DACA with a bachelor's degree and I work at a big deal tech company! Better keep me around dummies!", is not a way to win hearts and minds when so many people are unemployed.
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>>140414259
A law-breaking individual that's great is still a law-breaking individual
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>>140419619
Literally robbed the American taxpayers to acquire their credentials.
Then insist that their very existence in this country is some sort of morally superiority that must be accepted.

Fuck these people.
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>>140414259
> deporting because he's brown
no fagot, deporting because he's illegal.
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>>140414259
Deporting an illegal immigrant.
Fuckit, just get rid of all the laws, then they won't have to work either, they can just come up to you, stab you, go to your house and take your shit. Fuck laws right - they seem to all be racist as fuck.
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>>140414259
Brown kids and cannot be great kids
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>heh heh... enforcing the law won't bring your job back drumfsters
>fuck laws n shit punk ass white ppl
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No one is being deported for being brown
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>>140414259
Maybe not, but let's do it anyway you blue checked faggot.
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>The latest research comes from FWD.us, a pro-immigration reform group co-founded by Mark Zuckerberg, which found that 91 percent of DACA recipients are employed.

>employment rate ... for young adults with a bachelor's or higher degree (88 percent)

DACA: 91% employment
US Citizens with Bachelor's Degrees: 88%

It's amazing how a random sample of children from irresponsible parents that brought them over illegally are so statistically more competent.

Really mind bottling.
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>>140415124
says the fucking NEET who jerks off to pictures of his teenage sister. GET A FUCKING JOB FAGGOT.
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>>140414259
trying to impeach the president isn't gonna make the democrats win
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>>140414259
No, but it will save our country a lot of fucking money.
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>>140419015
Jobs created go to more foreigners tho
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>>140420781
>What are Diversity hires
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>>140414561
Your assuming someone will take that job. Everyone jobless I know doesn't care because their addicted to heroin or meth.
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>>140414259
Deport enough of them and it will.
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>Implying dreamer brats work at steelmills

No, those fucking beans have gone to college on free diversity gibs and have graduated into being bean burritos who will take white collar career jobs away from people who are actually qualified because any decent corporation knows that if they have to up their diversity numbers, bean burritos are still better than niggers.
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>>140421193
I have an anecdotal example

>college internship
>want the jobbo when I graduate
>suddenly, pooinloo from worse university appears
>H1B
>Gets full time position a year before I graduate
>Good for him I think!
>There are other positions open my boss told me he'd hire me for!
>Suddenly another H1B appears
>He gets hired too
>Suddenly a STEM girl appears
>Gets hired
>I finally graduate
>S-S-Sorry Anon, I know I told you I'd absolutely hire you, but I hired too many people
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>>140414259
What about all of the ones who aren't great? We'll just deport them, and keep the fraction of a percent who are great.
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>>140414259
No but it feels good.
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>>140421704
get better at your job...
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>>140414259
Well first of all we're not deporting him because he's brown.
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>>140414259
>because he's brown
wrong.
sad
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>>140421890
I was literally more useful, but that's just how it goes sometimes.

I also found out he was paying the H1B's absurdly low amounts.
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>>140414259
if its brown flush it down
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>>140421704
If you killed the H1B and stem girl, there would be 2 more positions available. The brave man creates his own destiny.
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>>140420910
WTF is that picture about?
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>>140414259
What a hateful piece of shit. As if that's what this is all about.
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>>140414259
>Implying great kids can be brown.
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>>140414259
We're deporting them because they're ILLEGALS not because of their brown. If some white AF bitch got in under DACA then send them right the fuck back too.
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>>140418550
Wow 30% increase pay raise & better working conditions? How will the construction industry recover? Its almost like they were using cheap undocumented labor to increase profits at cost of wages.
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>>140422160
saudis are the rednecks of the arab world
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>>140415124

>literally supporting illegal workforce, human trafficking, and stagnating wages for actual citizens

Democrats are still the party of slave owners I see.
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>>140414259
It's not because he's brown, it's because he hasn't got the proper papers, fuck off and try again.
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>>140414259
That great kid isn't being deported for the color of his skin, he's being deported because he's not even supposed to be here in the first place.
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>The name Mikel is a Hebrew baby name. In Hebrew the meaning of the name Mikel is: Gift from God.
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0USUVDTjrq7
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>>140414259
>I mean...he's not wrong...
Sure jailing a serial child rapist murderer isn't going to bring your job at the steel mill back either. You would need to address immigration, outsourcing, trade, and infrastructure at least. So deporting that kid is part of the solution.
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>>140414259
Wasn't DACA a two year referral program introduced in 2012 and extended until 2019 meant to give these kids enough time to seek permanent residence?

You don't need to correct me, because I'm not wrong.
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>>140422053
>H1B's absurdly low amounts.
Guess ya didn't ask about the quality of the work...
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>>140415124
You're such an ignorant nigger. You can't fathom that there are rural Americans that finely take a career paying job at a poultry plant. You get over the smell about the same time you get your first pay check. Those guys don't give a flying fuck about your nigga ass because they have a family to feed. There's decency in good work, don't degrade it, nigger
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>>140424161
Said ignorant but think you mean arrogant. Its ok to do that job Paul now stfu while Jerome finishes with your wife.
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>>140416044
But they don't.
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>>140414259
Actually he is
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Daily reminder that doxxing people is inciting harassment which is a felony.
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>>140424628
blerpa derpa Fox News republicans 'r' dumb :100: :joy: :ok_hand:
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>>140423595
Came here illegally.
EO to give them a chance to somehow make residence legal despite being illegal from the start.
> So you came here illegally, try to become legal in the next few years. Go for it. You get some preferences over those that are actually following the law and going through the proper process.
> Fuck the law-abiding immigrants, we know you're going to vote Democrat eventually.
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>>140418138
>Mist opportunit-
Nope, you took care of that all by yourself.
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>>140414259
i mean....you are a shitskin....thanks for 2 world wars
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>>140424161
>You can't fathom that there are rural Americans that finely take a career paying job at a poultry plant.
And a lot of them wouldn't be cool with putting out contaminated meat and other health hazards. Illegal laborers enable illegal pollution and contribute to public health hazards; even without bringing the plague.
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>>140414259

>What is non sequitur?
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>>140424921
Very few of us watch Fox News kid.
Funny posting though.
We laugh at them the same as you.
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>>140414259
>great
>brown
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>>140414259
I don't care if the entire country economically collapsed for eternity. DEPORT EVERY SHITSKIN NOW.
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Keeping someone who couldnt be bothered to become a legal citizen isnt going to make things better either
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>>140414259
why do liberals always assume the only people in the country illegally are brown
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>>140414259
>I mean...he's not even wrong...
ftfy
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>>140416844
checked, and truth. one or two deportations wont help, a thousand will help localities, a million will help the nation, 30 million will save us
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>>140425327
>Very few of us watch Fox News kid.
Depends on if you count just watching Tucker Carlson interviewing idiots.
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>>140414259
No but it will make me feel better.
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>>140425438
Well, because they're racist.
You say illegal and they assume "brown" of some variety.
That's their level of primitive thinking.
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Building a steel wall to make sure he stays in his own country might bring back that job tho.
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>>140419019
this
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>>140416143
So much lebensraum
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>>140414259
Its not because he is brown, its because hes illegal. You take em them. We are also 7 trillion in debt. broko sorryo
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>>140425790
When you bring up it effects more then Mexicans, all of the sudden they do not care about minorities.
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>>140425622
Admittedly, those are humorous,
but we all know he's interviewing idiots.
So it's just "entertainment."

Seriously, don't underestimate your opponent. Big mistake.
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>>140415124
You have no idea how many fucking jobs there would be in the oil field if we deported every illegal today. There would be tons. A veritable flood of decent paying ($70,000/year) jobs, a bunch of them having fairly low requirements, all suddenly popping open if illegals got deported and the mexican and female HR could no longer hire them. You could get to a frack and if every company's personnel was on site there would be at least 5-10 guys that couldn't speak a damn word of English.

I want this "they only do $1/hr fruit jobs" meme to fucking die.
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>>140414259

Deporting illegals = more jobs for Americans
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>>140414259
He's not?
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>>140426013
No, they still push that it's affecting minorities only.
However, considering that white people are a minority people in the world as a whole, it still affects them as well.
Overall, it affects everyone breaking the law and race has nothing to do with it.
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hes not being deported for that reason idiot, its cause hes illegal. dont assume all us brown folk dont have papers
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FPBP
Beans BTFO all the way to Mexico
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>>140414259
Yes, but it gets rid of brown kids. What are you not understanding about this?
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>>140425035
I'm not disagreeing. If they can't find a path to legal residence in seven years the they can get the fuck out. You can't find a spouse to sponsor you? You couldn't find an employer to sponsor you? You couldn't any single fucking thing at all to prove your value to the country? Then fuck off.
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>>140414259
No, but I won't have to deal with aggressive, asshole teen/20 something beans around town and fewer shitbox jalopies in traffic. Sounds good to me.
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This is the same kind of twisted logic of anti-death penalty "If you execute him, it won't bring the victim back."

No one thinks deporting people will bring jobs back -- No. One. It's a made-up argument that not a soul is making.
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People who oppose these sorts of things are far from in the trenches.

Firstly many Dreamers are adults now. Many have had the chance to apply for citizenship and did not. Typical reasoning is they don't want to pay and simple complacency.

The thought process of most Mexicans is that the USA is their birth right. They can come and go as they please and take as they please (even worse amongst non working class illegals that were educated here).

Cookie cutter home building/infrastructure is a product of cheap uninspired immigrant labor. And has only gotten worse since illegals have now become General Contractors themselves. Wetbacks can do good work, but only when someone who gives a damn stands right over their shoulder.

I have no problem making way for those who are more inspired to produce more than disposable shacks and infrastructure. America should be enriched by diversity from around the world, not just Mexico.

Source
> Lived in Central/South Texas all my life
> Worked construction most of my life
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>>140414259
We are deporting the good brown kid because he laughs at how white people are going to be a permanent minority.


Fuck him we'll fix this.
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>>140427751
I mean, you're wrong in your second sentence. There is not a path to citizenship for DACA participants. It wasn't that they didn't want to pay or that they were complacent. Someone made that up.
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>>140428588
No, they could have gone back and gotten in line. Now they go back and get in line.
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>>140414259
He's right. But he's also never met any of these brown kids. White leftists are well known to separate themselves from the people and causes they claim to champion.
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>>140414259
but it will keep me warm at night
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>>140414259
>Because he's brown
Because he's a felon
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>>140414259
its like saying if you shit in your hand you wont need a toilet
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>>140421399
no retard, when people "dont take the jobs" that means that the prices go up until someone eventually does take them, which means high wages for the american worker. god damn so stupid. illegal aliens destroy the wages of the american worker and basically reduce our country to slave labor, that's why all of the CEOs want them in and want them to stay. fucking brainwashed morons.
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>>140424607
what the fuck does this even mean? literally what the fuck does it even mean? fucking mouthbreathers
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>>140416786
This is true. At my highschool you could take a maximum of one semester econ.
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>>140426001
>7 tril
anon... i have something to tell you...
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>>140432296
No they don't you inbred hick, they take jobs that not even niggers want like picking crops.
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>>140414259
But he is wrong. Firstly the kid is being deported because he's breaking the law. Secondly, what the fuck is the steel mill gonna do? Just not hire people?
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It may not, but they´re still illegal, they have to come back and make mexico great
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>>140433345
i mean calling me an inbred hick isn't going to change the fact that you're selling total nonfacts to /pol/, and transparent ones too.
the whole point of how the wages go up is because nobody wants to do them. when nobody is willing to do them, they become in demand jobs because companies have to pay high premiums for their labor.
i mean there isn't any debating this. this is not a point up for any sort of debate. this is just absolute basic, entry level fact. it's simply supply and demand economics.
before the immigration influx our country suffered in the late 20th century and early 21st century there were still plenty of whites willing to pick crops, but they did so for better wages. now your policies have destroyed our wages and driven much of our nation into poverty.
i'm sorry that the facts don't align with your worldview or the policies that you want to see enacted, but they are what they are. the reality is the reality and that's not going to change just because you want it to.
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>>140414259
brown people can stay if they are legal citizens or have a work visa

he isnt being deported because he is brown thats just a added bonus that your deporting a brown guy not a european who came over as a tourist and got a apartment and job and stayed for 2 years
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>>140414259
except he isn't being deported because he is brown, he's being deported because he's here illegally and just happens to be brown

also did he just assume the gender of the kid?
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>>140414259
most dreamers are employed - that's actually the whole thing, they have work visas.

so deporting 800k of them frees up close to 800k jobs. it's really simple maths.

but also,
>flag
why am i not surprised that a fucking balkan can't into basic logic...
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>>140430156
just needs a blue check mark
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>>140433776
>>140433345
also, if the concept is still giving you trouble, you can think about jobs like oil rigs, or alaskan crab fishermen. there aren't a whole lot of people who want to do those jobs, even though they don't always require the most qualification. that's why they get paid so much money. so when you say "nobody wants to do a job at a meat packing plant, or picking crops", it's only because there is cheap labor willing to do it for cheap and drive the prices down. if those people weren't there, then the prices would be twice what they are now and many people would want to do them. it's a circular argument at best.
i hope this helps you to understand, my little mexican child, unfortunately i know the racial IQ gap is real.
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>>140414259
>great kid
>dindu nuffin
>goin 2 scool erryday

Out.
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>>140414259
actually, it will in the long-term, with higher pay too.
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>>140434228
Hope you enjoy your cancer from dip and wincest friendo.
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>>140434461
good argument. after calling me an inbred hick, and now resorting to this, you betray just how intellectually bankrupt and based on feelings and emotions leftist talking points really are. also how lying and mendacious you all are. you know there is absolutely no reason or logic to back up your ideas here. you know they're totally debunked and not based anywhere even remotely in reality. but yet you continue to push them because you want to push your racial, antiwhite agenda (which is also clear from your calling me an inbred hick and resorting to labelling me with behaviors you deem to be stereotypically associated with southern whites in a negative fashion). sort of funny if it wasn't so sad and pathetic.
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>>140414259
>great kid
>brown
pick 1 ese
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>>140414259
>because he's brown
>Mongoloids actually believe this
He wouldn't be getting deported if he wasn't illegal. Why can't people understand this?
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>>140434405
exactly, the problem is not that one good brown kid.

The problem is passing a law that encourages a whole bunch of kids to be smuggled to the US in the future
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>>140414259
Deport because he's brown? Or because he's illegal? Let's try to get this straight.
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>>140434145
Tried my best
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>>140415124
QQQUUUARK! STOP TRYING TO GET ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ONTO DS9!
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>>140414259
>deporting a kid that would of been a slave worker is horrible
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>>140415666
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