The final redpill is that capitalism is the final enemy. Jews

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>>140365610
No one likes your threads

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The laissez-faire meme needs to die but markets and private enterprise are powerful tools.
Kill internationalism and internationalists whatever economics they may have.

>>140365610
Thats true
Its not the people that are the problem, but the system itself
If you remove jews another ones will fill the void

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vacSHQx-YII

>>140365610
I think capitalists often overlook the fact that resources and money isn't everything. What makes you happy isn't what you have, but how you are compared to other people. That's why if you visit really poor countries, you'll notice people there are much happier, because they are all in the same boat and don't feel inferior.

In capitalist societies, everyone is richer, but there are many gaps, which makes people feel inferior, which creates conflict. That's why mental health drugs are skyrocketing in america and most people are depresssed.

I've visited many poor countries, so I know.

>>140368944
It's not so much the inequality, I don't think, so much as materialism. People in the West are obsessed with niggertech and conspicuous consumption. There are class divisions in poor nations as much as anywhere but having your life revolve around what you buy and how much of it makes those divisions chafe more.

Crony capitalism. LOL true capitalism has never been tried! sound familiar?

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>>140365610
>Jews are merely really good capitalists.

>>140369169
Consumption is a natural result of having wealth. If you have a lot of wealth and you are not a consumer, you usually try to keep your money's worth by investing in companies that create and encourage more consumerism.

In all the poor countries I've visited people the consumeristic life of people in the west, but they couldn't have it. Still, they lived and workedd together in large families and had a very happy lifestyle compared to most people I know in the west.

A person middle class person who only knows millionaires will be much more depressed than a poor peasant who lives around other peasants. Because the middle class person will always feel inferior, will have a tougher time attracting women, having a way to feel proud about himself, etc.

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>>140369691
depressingly familiar. clearly, the solution doesn't involve trying to top-down implement some kind of fragile ideology where you can't adapt to circumstances without it ceasing to be "true" socialism" or "true" capitalist democracy or what have you. if we're going to implement an ideology at all it has to be results-focused, not process-focused, and even then, the only point of implementing any kind of ideology is because the alternative presents an enormous challenge to the part of our brain in charge of figuring out social hierarchy. however, true social hierarchy is upstream from ideology in exactly the same way that culture is upstream from politics.
this is why your politics should always be about describing existing power structures. this isn't football, you don't get a vote, no one cares which team you're on, no one cares which ideology you prefer. you might as well fucking dye your hair blue, it accomplishes literally the same thing as having an edgy political ideology

Tankies are just salty.

FREE TRADE! OPEN BORDERS! TACO TRUCKS 'ROUND EVERY CORNER!

>>140369169 Just because you believe materialism is the root of all evil, does not mean everyone else agrees with you. Which is cool, not everyone will always agree we just need to get along. The problem with communism is that it is the state is making these decisions for people. Thats not cool. What if jerry down the road doesnt want to share with people and join people in their anti materialistic utopia? What if Jerry prefers individual freedoms over communism and state ownership> does the rest of the nieghborhood exile jerry for thinking different? send him to the gulag?

>>140370049
Also rich people tend to feel superior but in fact 99% of them didn't became rich by its own merit

>>140366988
>>140367439

>nazbol
>communist

>american education

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>>140365610

Nazbol also supports taking away women's rights and ruthlessly suppressing their sexuality. Pic related.

>>140370498
Learn what nazbol is before you post in a nazbol thread you absolute pleb

>>140365610
Final redpill is Gnosticism.

Get with the Program already and revolt against the Jewish Lord the Demiurge.

>>140371103
nazbol is an edgy mix between strasserism and fascism with a bit of socialism sprinkled in.

Isolationist traditionalist meritocracies is the final redpill

>>140371455

Limonov is the founder of nazbol. He is a full on Stalinist.

>>140365610
>The final redpill is that capitalism is the final enemy.
The Final Red Pill is that collectivism is the final enemy as it makes up most ideologies that have killed many people in the last couple hundred years.

>Jews are merely really good capitalists.
No shit, anyone with a high IQ would do well in a capitalist system. So not just Jews but Asians, and Whites would also preform very well.

>Even if all of them are removed the world will still suffer at the hand of Bezos, of Gates, of Buffet
Is this some dungeons and dragons boss?

>Porky is the final enemy of western prosperity
Proky is western prosperity, if we all become porkies then we all will be happy.

>Nazbol is the only way
So what is it as retarded as nazism and communism combined?

>>140371311
truth
and check'ed

>>140365610
Nothing triggers snowflakes as much as saying
>Kim Jong Un did nothing wrong except be born a gook
>Stalin did nothing wrong except tolerate Muslims
>Hitler did nothing wrong except tolerate capitalism

>>140370826
In every system there have to be sacrifices made in order to ensure it runs properly. No system is perfect.

The problem with Private Ownership of the means of production is that by definition it involves the abuse of labor.

Hyperconsolidation of wealth has caused most of the social issues in the world. It allowed for the creation of a super-class which supresses average working people through circuses, promoting degeneracy, wage-slavery, etc.

Under a libertarian society, even if the (((ruling class))) were to be "physically removed" so to speak, another would quickly take it's place because nothing has been done to fix the breaks in the system

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>>140365610
This.
What type of NazBol are you though? Dugin or Nieksisch?

>>140371919
>muh collectivism
Not an argument
>No shit, anyone with a high IQ would do well in a capitalist system.
Capitalism is great if your IQ is below 140, if it's above 140 you realize the opinions of retards is tolerated if they have enough money
>Is this some dungeons and dragons boss?
Are you some kind of degenerate?
>if we all become porkies then we all will be happy.
You are so clueless on how capitalism works I'm jealous, if I could be as ignorant as you I'd be happy getting fucked by a retarded system.
>So what is it as retarded as nazism and communism combined?
More like take away their weaknesses and create a new superior ideology.

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>>140365610
>The final redpill is that capitalism is the final enemy.
Pathetic, as always. Not even close to the final redpill, which is absurdism and true understanding that all those things humans are so desperate for aren't valuable at all, only validation of those makes some form of "order", "society", and only random and Kek determines your success in other people's eyes. And as the consequence of that, just do whatever the fuck you want to do, go full Commie or Nazi, kill niggers an sheit, rape black women and tell that Kim is the next God. Even fully understanding the concept of absurdism is simply not required, you're already doing the things that you view as ''rewarding'' the effort put into those. Just remember, we all are the ones of 7,5 billions of hydrogen pieces of trash being sharted out by our mothers who didnt even know what kind of baby aka socium member its going to be, and so she just tried to go into the most acceptable and satisfying way in her viewpoint, no matter how shitty of human being she is in eyes of society.

>>140365610
There's no such thing as capitalism, it's an ideological meme spread by Communists and anarchists. There is only the market and those who participate in it. When those who participate in it are godless kikes your market will reflect their values.

Remove the godless kikes and 90% of the problems with "capitalism" vanish.

>>140371919
>if we all become porkies then we will all be happy
One does not become a porky without causing unhappiness. The system which allows people to become porkies is built on keeping 99.99% of the population shackled at the bottom of the pyramid thinking they're some kind of "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" as Ronald Wright put it.

Face it, you're probably never going to be rich. Maybe once upon a time we all had a real shot but class-exclusivism is so bad now that even with the right work-ethic, intelligence, and ideas it's still comparable to winning the power ball.

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>>140371172
>oh fuck, I've stepped into a gigantic dog shit
>I'll never get rid of it
>feces enthusiast appears out of nowhere
>nuh-uh, according to structure and taste it appears to be a feces belonging to Hobo Americanus, aproximately 43 years old
>still ends up smelling like shit

Tell me more about your intricate ideology, I am all communist ears.

>>140372583

>rape black women

That's fucking disgusting. I have no intention of fucking an ape.

>>140372583
I've been blackpilled before Ivanbro and the redpill after the blackpill is that absurdism is a waste of time and usually just leads to suicide

>>140373036
>The system which allows people to become porkies is built on keeping 99.99% of the population shackled at the bottom of the pyramid thinking they're some kind of "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" as Ronald Wright put it.

"Temporarily embarrassed millionaires" aren't 99.9% of the population, barefoot street-shitting "third world" peasants are.

>>140372892
Here we have a classic Chicken-or-Egg problem

What came first? The system or the kikes?

Humans are a product of their environment. I argue that a godless system creates godless kikes. You can argue the opposite but I really see no way we can convice eachother, do you?

>>140373036
And why is that any issue for a communist swine? You have neither right work ethic, nor talent, nor ideas, and definitely not intelligence so why do you care? Do you perhaps want others to get free shit for you?

>>140372131
Sacrifices must be made? Ignoring how abhorrent that sounds.. couldn't the same argument be made for the victims of capitalism? private ownership does not garauntee abuse of power, state ownership does. Historically. Every time. Hyperconsolidation is cause by people abusing a broken market. Fractional reserve banking is keeping your burgouisie in power. Fix the breaks in the system? Destroy the world banking clan. Much easier than using force to make people do what you want. Communism does not work. Socialism does not work. We have never seen a free market, because its been manipulated by bad people. Communists say the people are bad and need to be governed differently. Libertarianism blames the people responsible.

>>140373390
My mistake. I should have said 99.99% of Americans

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I have a genuine question for people who defend capitalism. Does your income allow you to have a home, family an 5 kids?

I ask this because I see so many childless, family-less capitalist apologist leaving with their parents. I am not trying to ridicule you for being poor. I just can't understand why do you defend the system.

>>140373036
Do you know what system it is that keeps the porkies at the 99.999% I'll give you a hint, its capitalism mixed with another system. Figure out the combination for your self.

>>140372569
>Not an argument
Yea it is bro. Collectivism is what the idea of Communism, NaSoc, Nationalism, Fascism, Democratic Socialism, and Merchantilism are based on. The idea of striving towards a collective goal or good is the what these are based upon.

>Capitalism is great if your IQ is below 140
Then why are the majority of the worlds billionaires have a iq around this or higher.

>Are you some kind of degenerate?
No the names just seemed kind of weird riddle at first, I didn't realize that you where referring to billionaires and not fantasy monsters.

>You are so clueless on how capitalism works I'm jealous,
Voluntary Exchange, it is such a simple idea you can teach it to a gorilla or toddler. Oh wait your talking about exploiting the workers and not compensating them for the fruits of there labor. Too bad, workers get a wage that is worth there labor. If they feel like there labor is worth more then they could negotiate for a higher wage or start there own business. And if you where to calculate wages with profits for some collective profit from an entire company, I bet you tankies wouldn't be bitching as much since the data of what the workers get as a collective would be very shocking to you.

>More like take away their weaknesses and create a new superior ideology.
Your combining two bad systems. Nazism already fixed the majority of socialisms problems by being less socialist and smart with resource management, how could a combination be possibly be better.

>>140374031
No, I am a full-time student who is 19. It is impossible for me at the moment to support an entire family. But it is a goal I have in mind with in the next 10-15 years.

>>140373749
Even if you eliminate the federal reserve (which is a private bank operating above the sovereignty of the state) you still have to deal with robber-barons. Rockefeller built Standard Oil in a climate with 0 anti-trust regulations. The railroad trust happened because Morgan, Harimann, and Hill decided it was more profitable to combine forces to nickle-and-dime the working man than to compete, and there were no regulations around to stop them.

>final redpill
>some retarded platitude which you hear constantly from millennials, democrats, the media and boynee sanders

Yea no

>>140374031
Inflation my friend. Built up over years of fractional reserve banking and tax payer rape. A single income household back in the 50's and 60's could support two cars, a house and 5 kids. Communism has only ever produced death. Russia got better after dropping the idea. he idea that sacrificing human being to your ideals is disgusting. Seriously bro, look up the fractional reserve banking system. Your broke because assholes are stealing your money and destroying the middle class.

>>140366377
show your flag nigger

>>140375119
>Bernie Sanders
>Nazbol

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>>140374323
I have some bad things to say about modern education. It used to provide jobs, now it's up in the air. The job security is very low. And man, I am in similar situation, although I am older.

>the next 10-15 years
okay, so basically you will have kids at 30-35. I'm sorry but this is not good. The non-Whites bread like roaches, we need a wealfare system and White Sharia law to start making kids before 20, not at 30.

>>140374031
>everyone would be able to have 5 kids in commie paradise
>this wouldn't lead to starvation like all other commie shitholes

>>140375182
Didn't say he was. I said they all say capitalism is the enemy.

>>140368606
Duh, whites are the next in line for general IQ, ditch the Jews, keep hierarchical capitalist economy so we can be on fill the void.

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>>140375244
What is post-scarcity

Russia and China were famine-ridden before they went commie. The revolution always starts in desperate populations.
USA can feed the entire world just off of the food it wastes.

>>140375312
Even a broken clock is right twice-a-day

>>140375434
>we
so delusional

>>140374031
>Does your income allow

Do you know what my income allows now, communist swine? We no longer have to beg our neighbors for a cup of sugar, or one egg, or female hygiene pads, I no longer have to steal in my job and sell the goods on the black market, and neither do I have to sweet talk some communist swine for travel permits.

And why the fuck do you post pictures of state capitalists?

Social democracy is the way to go

>>140375434
We are not them

>>140374919
Its not like anyone wasn't able to compete with Rockefeller. Even if he owned all the oil and was able to keep it his business. He still has to compete with substitute goods and deal with the market rate at which people will pay for his good.

Rockefeller would have to compete with Coal, and Wood and in 4 decades, nuclear power.

JP Morgan would have to compete with the ship travel and later air-travel.

Both have to deal with the rate at which the most people will buy there services/goods at the highest price. So its not like they could set the price to infinity and think that they will still turn a profit.

>>140375237
You just have to know how to beat the system and how to not get trapped by it.
>Pirate your text books if possible.
>Go into a field with Jobs
>Focus more on useful skills rather than a degree, ex don't get a degree in business or computers, but learn the skills.
>Self Educating your self is about half of your education.

>>140365610
Communism is a failed system that it failed to sustain the Eastern Bloc which is why the West won the Cold War. Communist countries outside of the Eastern Bloc such as China abbandoned Communism and embraced Capitalism while they're still claiming they're Communist.

>>140374919
Then people should be vigilant, and call out robber baron activity when its detected. Educated people can expose to other residents these activities. If enough people get pissed then change can occur. This is where we are, its time to take on the robber barons, not circle the bowl into total statist control. Fix the problems with the system we have. No reason to engage in insanity, and try an ideal that has proven over and over again to be a deadly waste of time

>>140375896
Nazbol isn't communism and besides states such as the USSR and China weren't communist. Their leaders may have been but they certainly weren't.

>>140375704
You are really trying hard to avoid the point. It's not a fucking red pill if it's the mainstream opinion of the entire establishment you idiot.

How can anyone honestly be this stupid? Are you baiting?

people who support things like communism and socialism always tend to be people who believe they are somehow greater than the common man. That their ideas should be law because they are somehow smarter or greater than everyone else. This system produce dictators. Every time. Communism ignores human nature to enforce ideals of superiorty. A true communist utopia cannot exsist because people arent numbers, and they get angry when they are hungry

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>>140365610
No. Capitalism is the ultimate red pill. The problem with /pol/ is that it thinks that capitalism is a Jewish plot and doesn't understand how to benefit from it. /pol/ doesn't realize that in order to conquer society, dominate the media and change the world, it's necessary to make their ideas marketable and profitable. This is the final redpill, the holy grail: to turn the red pill into the money pill.

What about collective ownership of the means of production, if it's REALLY doable, then it's doable within the market paradigm: workers can launch their own collectively owned enterprises that will compete in the market and share profit among each other on their own terms. The initial capital can be obtained by collective fundraising. The term for that is mutualism, it belongs to our camp. Libertarians uber alles, deal with it. Because it's not even an ideology, but a way to change the world. The world will either be ours, or get burned to the ground.

>>140375833
What about banking? The same families have been in charge of international finance for centuries.

This discussion is developing into an argument of who pulls the strings: corporations or governments. You argue that the state is the chief actor behind the shitty system we have now. I argue that the state is a puppet of big corp which really calls the shots.

If we were to eliminate the state protections that allow corporations to fuck us, do you think that will result in a free market? Wouldn't big corp just eventually replace the state as the de-facto authority and institue "privatized" wage-serfdom as opposed to the government-mandated kind we already have?

>>140375896
>failed to sustain the Eastern Bloc

There wasn't even need to sustain us, Czechy was one of the richest countries in the Europe mid WW and WWII, we had 70% of industrial capacity of former Austro-Hungarian empire, and we were almost untouched by the war. But then commies came and fucked everything up, and brought us such technological miracles like nylon shirts and cars with reverse aerodynamics.

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>>140376297
When has National Bolshevism ever been the mainline ideology of the global establishment?

>>140371708
*founder of -Russian- Nazbol

Niekisch and his proto-Strasserite followers were the first to actually come up with and use the term in a political context.

There must always be a certain distinction when speaking of Nazbol, because it is represented by two entirely different schools of thought, that of Niekisch and that of Limonov.

There is Russian Nabol, and there is German Nazbol. German Nazbol eventually evolved into what is commonly known as Strasserism, whereas Russian Nazbol is presently represented by Dugin.

>>140377059
You are describing Libertarian Socialism I think

I truly wish that human nature could allow for such a system. It is a beautiful pipe-dream with castles in the sky.

Why haven't we been able to rise up and seize the means ourselves within the market paradigm? Because the market runs anathema to collectively owned enterprises.

Have you ever seen a long-term financially sustainable commune (that wasn't propped up by daddy's money)?

>>140375144
I know about the 50s. I think it was a scam. People took mortgages, instead of paying the price of home. Now we have to pay for the inflation they caused in 50s and 60s.
>In command economy inflation is checked

>>140375753
Ouh wow, it's someone from the EU butthurt belt. Enjoying your little post-communist enthostate, amiright?
>National-Bolshevism is Stalinism
>Implying National Bolsheviks are pro Khruschev, Pro-Breznev
I despise everything about Khrushchev and his shenanigans both economically and politically

>>140375833
Fair enough, thats what I kinda learnt to do over the years. Yet, doesn't it just proves that the system is broken, if you need to figure out how to beat it? It takes years to beat it, if no one helps or says how to, and the education system just brainwashes you to believe everything is fine. Also unlike libertarians I am concerned about my White folk, not my personal self.

>>140378040
>Libertarian Socialism

......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................WHAT........................................................................................................................THE.........................................................................................................................FUCK............................................................................................IS.........................................................LIBERTARIAN......................................SOCIALISM............................................

You fucking idiot.

>>140377061
Several bodies pull the strings. Internationally, there is a global Oligarchy that manipulates governments and interest rates in order to establish global control. Then you have the Intelligence community who's real goal is to keep the gears moving through the use of coercion and fear. The point here is to keep people ignorant of the fact that war makes money. Human lives are being traded for stock market points.

>>140378432
Most Ancoms are self described Libertarian Socialists. Basically socialism without the statism.

>>140377429
Already answered this
>>140375312

>>140378040
An enterprise is just a single actor in the market, it doesn't matter how it is run in the end, because to others, it's still perceived as one. The market doesn't care if it's run by collective decisions or not.

The problem is that people are too dumb and uncultured, they don't understand investment, resource management and fundraising

You don't need to "seize" anything because you can accumulate the initial capital by fundraising. If the working class is REALLY capable of collective ownership, and is not just a dumb mass, then it can perfectly start small, and things will get bigger over time.

>>140365610
>The final redpill is that food is the final enemy.

>>140378683
>Ancoms

HAHAHAHHAHAA

>>140378432
It's a real thing

Strickly theoretical but yes it's an actual, well thought out ideology.

If it sounds like an oxymoron that's because it is.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

Quick rundown is that LibSocs believe they can implement full commie utopia thru the free market.

>>140378683
>>140378432
Though it is often used to describe leftist movements that undermine the role of the state in general. Any movement aiming for decentralization of power and increased union control of the economy could easily be described as Libertarian Socialist.

>>140378683
everyone give up all your wealth for everyone else....
out of the kindness of your heart.
sounds more like christian socialism to me.

>>140371017
>Create 800 variants of the same shit, that way nobody will be able to blame true communism

>>140378964
>thru the free market.
Since when do Libsocs support the free market? Genuinely curious, as I may have missed that detail.

I was under the impression that they merely proposed decentralization, minimal bureaucracy and increased union control.

>>140378774
The Democrats and Global Elite don't want real socialism. They want state-capitalism with just enough gibs to keep the general population too stupid and lazy to better their circumstances.

>>140379246
Libertarian Socialists are not against the use of force or the violation of the NAP to further their political goals. They just want limited bureaucracy and a decentralized state once power has already been acquired.

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Nice meme

>>140365610
>jews are really good

kys trotsky

>>140379753
He didn't say that retard

>>140379372
They are out there.
They tend to be libertarians who dabble in socialism as opposed to socialists who dabble in libertarianism.

https://www.libertarianism.org/media/libertarian-view/can-libertarianism-tolerate-existence-socialist-community

Like I said earlier. Purely theoretical. The double-think required to actually buy into this concept is so great that fortunately it hasn't made much ground.

Market Socialism is another wacky one
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism

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>>140379753
There is a reason, why it's NATIONAL Bolshevism. Enthostate with no "free market" (whatever that means).

>>140379572
Wouldn't a decentralized state naturally develop a free-market?

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>>140365610

>>140380618
In the case of Ancoms, most certainly, but not if one does not reject the notion of state or bureaucracy outright.
A decentralized state can still be functional enough to prevent the development of a free market, as can a decentralized Bureaucracy, as long as it exists in the first place.

I am a Strasserite, so I hardly support them, but their reasoning is not entirely faulty.

>>140379815
>>140380610

even as a kike myself, i rather cut my balls and feed it to the fish while popping cyanide pill then live under kike influenced Bolshevist utopia, literally scum of the earth people
you are all sheeps and cucks follow your beloved marx and trotsky

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>>140379311
>>140371017
i will restate
>nazbol
>communist

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School started. Why are you lefty/pol/ shills still here?

>>140381277
than*

>>140380618
>>140381101
This is the core reasoning behind Socialist decentralization, pretty much. They really wish that they they could get rid of the state outright, but they recognize that there must be some force to maintain in motion the gears of the system, lest it devolves into something else entirely.
The state is not strong enough to establish a Soviet-like dictatorship, but still exists with exactly as much power as it requires to protect the status quo of Socialism.

>>140372892
A market absolutely does not reflect values. It's merely the trace left by the richest trying to cement their position, and random pretenders trying to take their place values be damned.
> Burger
Checks out.

>>140381587
fascism is anti-capitalist

>>140378399
Heh, our existence really annoys you communist swines, doesn't it? Hard to shill for your infantile horseshit when there is someone who knows that you are full of shit, isn't it? That it goes against basics of human nature. And that you are nothing but a fucking parasite that want to coopt others to get free shit for you.

I really hope you will die. Really, really do. Some painful tumor. Or getting your numale head smashed by annoyed blacksmith.

>>140381587
You remind me, I have to prepare the material to teach in lab this week.

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>>140381974
Not exactly. Fascism is corporatism where the state harnesses the economy and regulates it to serve the nation and meet collective goals. Fascism is not against private property like (((commies))) are

>>140381974
>>140381587
This x1000
Though way too many Americans seem to forget this fact, if they even know of it in the first place.

National Capitalism (Drumpf, KKK Protestants) IS NOT Fascism, contrary to Ameretard belief.

To be a Fascist, one must be either a Corporatist or a National Syndicalist, both of which are diametrically oppossed to free market Capitalism.

>>140382260
Does your brand of fascism grant personhood to corporations and protection to members of the board?

>>140365610
It is so sad when I see people who don't understand why socialism and communism have, and will never work.
Honestly the only reason socialism survives is because of capitalism.

>>140382260
You seem to know your stuff sufficiently enough. Makes me wonder why you hate non-internationalist Communists as much as you do.
>>140382810
Give me one reason besides anti Marxist-Leninist cold war propaganda.

>>140382509
> Mistakes corporatism for capitalist definition of corporations.
I'll see myself out.

>>140365610
Nazbol solves the problem of Left Anarchism and Stalinist Communism that Strasser was trying to achieve, which is why East German SED invited him to join the National Front in government.

It is an excellent synthesis between Anarchism, Communism, Fascism, and Conservatism.

>>140383000
Why be an ancom when you agree on so many levels? Strasserism is in dire need of more adherents, given that most barely know of its existence.

>>140383594
I am a NazBol but also anarchist because I am a tribalist. Something like Scottish clans are anarchist, or a Viking Thing.

>>140383594
What do you think a Nazi Germany with Strasser at the helm would have looked like?

>>140365610
The final redpill is that Capitalism is our salvation, we will sacrifice our own bodies and lives to the great God of Capital, we will watch our families be ripped apart and our very nations dissolved, before mighty Capital, whose appendages will reach into every orifice. None can resist Capital, your foolish progressive projects like feminism and racial equality became its puppets, your weakest, fleshy desires it rewards, Capitals other name is Hedon. You monkeys, with your treeborn sense of right and wrong, Capital creates for you all the moral pornography you could ever hope for. Yes, fight against evil Capital, rage bravely against it! That mere monkeys like you think you can stop Capital now is laughable. You called this Demon into the world, now perish in its mouth.

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>>140384324
I think it would have looked like a cross between Communist East Germany and the Third Reich

>>140384040
I mean if you really think about it all anarchist societies eventually go tribal since the tribe is a very primitive (but not in a bad way) social unit.

I can get behind tribalism insofar as I think competition between tribes or clans is preferable to competition between nations or races.

>>140384464
Mammonism

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REAL NAZBOL HOURS
WHO UP????

NAZBOL GANG FUCK OFF JEWS LOL

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>>140382912
Stfu Jew Greek Jew LMFAO...

Sieze the means of this dick nigga Nazbol Gang

>>140365610
NazBols are cringy faggots

>>140384717
I don't want tribal competition, but rather tribal confederations. Like a federal system. This may sound like AnPrim but the fact is people are naturally tribal regardless of the system.

This rot that we are fighting against is the imperialistic rot of neo-liberalism

>>140385201
Globalist Alert

Gay Jew Spotted

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>>140382151
Fuck Of Pinoy Jew Globalist

Nazbol Gang suck my Dick

>>140376297
>if it's the mainstream opinion of the entire establishment you idiot.
Liberals aren't anti-establishment, you mong. They are the contrary. They are fine with corporations raping our countries as long as they have a minority women as CEO, change their logo to include fag flag as a watermark, and say something negative about Trump on twitter.

They aren't anti-establishment, they are the establishment

>>140384324
Its economy would have healed significantly over a short period of time in a manner similar to Hitler's economic miracle, though the foundation of national mobilization and spiritual unity would be built around the concept of class-based civic German solidarity, rather than race.

Germany's national identity itself would have been reformed around the proletarian ideal. its national rebirth would be simultaneously linked to the birth of a new, distinctively proletarian national consciousness, rejecting the notion of Bourgeois nationalism as manifested through the French revolution, and instead opting for the realization of Ploretarian nationalism, where the essence of the nation lies in the identity of its working class alone. A new national myth, therefore, that rids the heart of the nation from the Bourgeois parasite and recognizes only the working class as the bearers of its essence.

Jews would have been disposed of sufficiently, yet relatively peacefully. The result would have been slightly less successful than Hitler's, though decent enough to eliminate their institutional presence, thus rendering them powerless, both economically and culturally.

And lastly, knowing Strasser, Germany wouldn't have pursued its territorial ambitions if faced with the likelihood of war. The military would have been mobilized flawlessly for the possibility of defensive war, but the borders would be VERY unlikely to expand beyond those of Versailles without provocation.

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Nazbol is a Trojan horse for Stalinism. They don't even have any arguments or policies, just shitty facebook memes and pilpul.

>>140386834
This is the problem of the definition of nation. Is it a meaningless abstract of who holds what passport or is it an organic whole?

Civic nationalism is just statism. A proper socialist should consider the nation as something organic and not something abstract. So regardless of class-based civic identity, you cannot eliminate racialism, otherwise you are just as bad as the capitalist

>>140365610
capitalism is okay, neoliberalism is the enemy

>>140388261
They are the same thing, dummy

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>>140365610
the final stfu and KYS YOU KIKE FAGGOT THREAD -> GO
>>sagesagesage sage sage sage = egas egas egas (((ELECTRIC GAS THEM)))

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>>140388916
no faggot, anarcho communist is wtf again you stupid homo. Fuck you niggers dont understand shit let alone economics

>>140375434
>whites are the next in line for general IQ,
nope it is the asians

>>140389663
AnCap nigger detected

>>140373749
>we have never seen a free market, because its been manipulated by bad people
you sound like a communist , if your ideology is so easy subverted then maybe it is wrong

>>140375896
>China abbandoned Communism and embraced Capitalism
no they are mercantalists

>>140365610
>jews are merely really good capitalists
>jews created communism and gulag
am confuse

>>140385649
Ahahaha, Nazbol swine calls other 'globalists', oh my god. Jesus, faggot just go and join Young Turks, your lack of self awareness is hilarious.

>>140389481
Autism speaks

>>140391276
Nazbol gang is a pathetic ironic /leftypol/ shitposting group meant to invalidate Nazbol as an ideology. The subhuman you are replying to is in the purest sense of the word a shill.

>>140390556
Mercantilism died in the 18th century

China is a mixed-market quasi-socialist state with agressive trade policies

>>140392603
>quasi socialist
Not even that much. They are as neo-Liberal as one can get without going full Lolberg.

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>>140365610
stahhpu bumpin ur threads

>>140365610
nazbol as in National right?

>>140365610
I prefer teaming up with nazbols than any capitalist jews.
We'll fight them togeter.

>>140393149
Yes

>>140393986
pampering the keks one nation at a time.

>>140382260
wow d00d wanna weet? XD :3

>>140378432
read more

>>140393157
>national (((socialists))) allying bolshevik retards instead of taking the profit-pill
like pottery

Sage move on and report

Capitalism and Communism = Jewish filfth

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>>140368944
If alienable resources aren't everything wouldn't that imply that the "gaps" in richer nations, if they are wealth or resource based, be over emphasized as a causal basis for social phenomenon?
I would say the opposite is true, it's the socialist that argues that money is everything, evidence being they attempt to homogenize and control that very factor believing it will lead to greater equality.
I would further say that you are right, money and wealth are far from everything, especially in regard to what makes a person consider them self happy, and the concept of material wealth isn't even well enough defined in modern society to make comparisons and draw conclusions.

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>>140365610
More like the final bluepill

>>140397194
Capitalism is a direct result of materialist thinking. It reduces all ideals and concepts to acquirable commodities and measures one's worth through his ability to generate profit.
Productivity is god, and material conditions are the only valid measurement of worth and success, be it for individuals or nations.
It is a system that is entirely soulless, devoid of any higher ideal or concept. One is as good as his ability to generate money, regardless of moral values or character, and the system cares only of that ability, regardless of intent, as long as his personal effort for profit indirectly benefits the proles, who themselves are materially conditioned to be aspiring bourgies and indirectly benefit the rest through their effort.

No shit, it's just a system that works in practicality in the States better than any other alternatives I've heard suggested (at least in the current state).

>>140365610
k

>>140399326
k

sweetie communists are evil

>>140365610
What's the difference between NazBol and Strasserism. Nobody will answer me.

>>140399678
See >>140377521

German Nazbol = Proto-Strasserism
Russian Nazbol = Dugin

>>140399959
Well then.

>>140399959
would you say that dugin NazBol is only really even called Bolshevism simply because its Russian?
that seems to make a lot of people here hate it for no reason whatsoever, despite National Socialism not getting the same treatment

>>140371103
Russian women are nothing like this, whoever wrote this must have no experience with them at all.

>>140400645
The word "Bolshevism" triggers the kike alarm on /pol/'s collective radar. It is a buzzword similar to "black" or "gay" when spoken to an average leftist. It takes a great deal of time and effort to turn one away from the immediate emotional reaction that buzzwords incite. Most are not even willing to decipher the meaning behind the word, as the sound itself is enough to trigger an emotional reaction.

>>140401998
its why i just say im a strasserist desu, i mean thats how i got into nazbol anyways
i get called a right-winger for my view in the us. weird times we live in

>>140365610
"capitalism" is just aggressive jew-style finance. the only reason Bezos, Gates and Buffet can exist is because they are competing with jews. If there were no jews, the entire playing field would be different. state control of the means of production (the dictatorship of the proletariat) will never work because it never has to answer to the needs of the people, the State is just the ultimate corporate entity. the means of production can be responsibly controlled by local communities, individuals, or corporations provided they are protected from aggressive jew-style finance capital by the state. The state should only control those industries necessary for national security and the only service it should provide is national defense, both militarily and against aggressive ideolgies and aggressive finance

>>140365610
and bolsheviks are kikes

>>140365610
No, nazbol is not the only way.
It is one of two ways worth trying, the other being natsoc.

>>140402099
I often use the Fascist flag to block excessive shitposting, and avoid using words like "Communism" when describing the specifics of Strasserism.

Buzzwords have tremendous power, and it just so happens that third positionism lies in the middle of the shitstorm. It causes both sides to get triggered to the point of mental breakdown, so we are equally hated by Communists and Fascists alike. It is perhaps the most politically incorrect ideology, after all. Every Communist I've come across eventually called me a nazi raycis, and every NEETsoc i've come across eventually called me a Communist faggot.

A slight rebranding of terms would certainly help bring more closer to our cause. Just say "I like Niekisch" instead of "I'm a Nazbol" and you should be able to discuss without excessive spergouts. Focus exclusively on the economic aspects of third positionism when discussing with Communists, and exclusively on the nationalist aspects when discussing with Fascists, I've found that it is the best way to get them interested without triggering buzzword reactions. Once they have sufficiently digested the parts that are least offensive to each's respective ideology, you are quite safe to redpill them on the more triggering aspects.

>>140365610
95% of commie leders were kikes ,but nice meme retard

>>140365610
KILL EVERYTHING

K I L L

E V E R Y T H I N G

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bkO6LimH4k

>>140403424
100% of last yuro and anglos presidents were kikepuppets so what is your point ?

Nationalism
Race
Economic unity and justice
Authority
Virtue

Hail victory

IMHO we need a synthesis of NazBol and NatSoc

A little more racism, a little less full retard communism, same basic idea though

>>140404501
This
This anon knows

>>140404501
nazbol isnt really full retard communism, and its completely for an ethnostate
but i get where you're coming from
>>140403287
what about something like national progressivism

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>>140365610
Yet Jews advocate for free market capitalism in Israel and Communism and Socialism for the Goyim. Really makes you think.

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>>140365610
>capitalism is the final enemy.

And to get to the final enemy you have to defeat the other, closer, more pressing enemies.

Things like the FACT
F A C T.
That our societies aren't flawlessly productive (think Star Trek era where technology provides EVERYTHING for everyone so well that the very concept of trade is redundant - everything can be 3D printed, and all materials are so abundantly available because they have access to the entire universe as a proverbial 'mine' and stars are utilized as infinite energy supplies).

And when we ARE at that level, capitalism won't be an enemy, because it will simply fade away from sheer lack of practical usage.