Okay, Americans, I want you to make a list of all the pros and

>>140359071
Someone needs to lynch that faggot.

>>140359071
>LOOK AT MEEEE, I'M VIRTUE SIGNALING. WEEEEE~!

Pros: less Mexicans
Cons: still too many Mexicans

>>140359071
>Americans
you mean native americans?
obese fat mongrels that inhabit north american continent are expelled genocidal euro trash.

>superior 21st century Americans

Loaded statement

>>140359071
what

MS13 to start targeting white families in retaliation to DACA rescinding

>>140359759
Did you miss the part where he put "White America" in quotes?

Because white people dont exist, unless of course you have to blame them, then it's ok to refer to them as a group, but dont forget they're inferior because they're already citizens.

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muh legs, muh free college while you gringos become student debt slaves

that fat faggot is sounding an awful lot like a racist and a supremacist

>>140359071

>be """white"""
>be rich bcuz white
>hate white people
>blue check

>>140359071
It allows literal leeches on the American taxpayer to stay. They benefit from public schools, police, firefighters, and infrastructure that neither their parents nor themselves have actually paid into. Every "dreamer" is a fucking thief and I don't give a fuck about how sad it is that they have to go back. Furthermore, if they have kids here, they're going to raise their kids to vote for more fucking government authority and control. Fuck them.

>>140360412
report her

I gotta be real, this feels wrong. It's their parents that should be punished for breaking the law, not them. They didn't have a say in the matter.

Keeping DACA pros.

...
...
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Dem legs?


Keeping DACA cons
Lower national IQ.

Large influx of Socialist voters and the eventual related economic collapse.

Destruction of the last bastion of Western values.

The eventual new dark age

>>140360783
just because my dad stole a car doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to drive it. he only stole it to provide for the family

Superior?

>>140360412
I noticed she did not put "passed citizenship test to become a legal American" on her list of accomplishments.
Maybe if she would have just done that there wouldn't be an issue at all, but what do I know, I'm just a white male.

>>140359071
Pro: Restore Law and Order
Pro: Deport illegal aliens
Pro: Reduce welfare state
Pro: Reduce crime
Pro: Wall must now be built
Pro: More border guards with better weapons
Pro: Lean out jails and prisons to comply with Fed regulations; no more early release
Pro: Schools can teach in English
Pro: Homeless population decreases 40%

Con: ?

>>140360917
That's different and you know it.

>>140359071
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/cost-of-illegal-immigrants/

>>140360762
*deport

>>140360917
This.

My dad may have stolen the car, but he gave it to me!!!!! So it's my car now. Why are you so mean trying to take my car?

>>140360975
Con: Muh feefees

>>140360783
Well, let's just fine them a shitload. Like the cost of educating their children on the tax payer dollar.

>>140360983
How?

>>140360983
just because my dad is squatting in this house he doesn't own doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to keep squatting here. Why should I be punished by being homeless because I was brought here as a child?

>>140359071
(((Chipman)))
Of courrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrse

>>140359071
White faggots win again.

>>140360983
Except it isn't, these "children"(who are mostly in their 20's and 30's) are directly benefiting from their parents crime. Fuck them.

No amount of hate of illegals on the right will come close to matching the Left's utter contempt of Blue Collar Whites that do not vote Democrat.

>>140359071
guy sounds like a brown supremacist

>>140360783
Their parents will go back with them

>>140361230
Don't hate the player

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>>140359759

>>140360783
But they are breaking the law by their being here. Especially if they collect ANY social services, like welfare or public schooling.


3 illegal aliens in a class of 30 removed would effectively increase school.budgets by 10% per capita

>>140361356
Just your average white guilter.

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It's good for multinational profits you fucking goys stop getting in the way of my shekels

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>>140361018
>data over 10 years old with no actual figures of TRUE CURRENT costs.

eat a dick canada.

>>140360783

It's not about punishing anybody.

It's about the rule of law.

It's only because their own countries are shitholes that people like you think it's a punishment they have to go back to their own country.

>>140359558
tpbp

>>140360969
>tfw you commit a felony as a toddler

>>140359071
Good:

>It is required to have a clean record to be part of DACA so recipients are not criminals aside from them being illegal
>Majority have high school diploma and are attain or have a skill
>Have been assimilated with American Culture as they have been here since birth
>They can be used as a way to increase the budget for the wall.

Bad: IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Its dictator shit to instate that program. But this bad thing has a solution. CONGRESS DO YOUR JOB

>>140361457
It's funny that only a decade ago the left were campaigning to fight "the 1%", but are now openly supporting corporatism.

>>140360783
If someday your parents decide to steal a bunch of resources, and then they gift them to you, don't be too surprised that if they get caught, you'll need to return what's not yours.

>>140360917
Why i should change the car now? I don't even know how other cars work and i've never even been in other cars. Its not even an English car, its Spanish or some shit and no se espanol gringo.

Well then, maybe these superior DACA kids can make Mexico a better place so illegals won't have to come here anymore for a better life.

>>140360969
Not everyone has money for a lawyer and 20 years to become a citizen

>>140361542
>>Have been assimilated with American Culture as they have been here since birth
Yeah, like making America Mexico again?

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>>140359707
Hey there, Ahmed.

>>140361465
Every illegal kid in California costs $15,000 just for school.

So this argument that their parents pay sales tax, well, their parents would have to be buying $150,000 in taxable sales goods every year for every child.

That ain't happening.

As far as "paying payroll taxes", they get the Earned Income Credit for having kids, and end up getting $2 to $6,000+ in tax refunds, having paid zero taxes.

The IRS sends billions of dollars of EIC tax refunds to people who live in Mexico.

>>140361634
They hardly known Spanish.

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>>140361229
>hey goy, those dreamers are just students and workers, it's good for the country

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>>140359071
>superior 21st Century Americans.

Shh, shh, don't fight it.

>>140361598
>slavs in charge of property rights
because it's not yours wtf is wrong with you? why don't you take all these doctors and lawyers Ivan

>>140361697
If they're so talented and studious, I'm sure they'll pick it up in no time.

>>140361697
They're so smart, they'll learn easily.

>>140361116
So it's settled, ending DACA was a bad thing

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>>140360783

They steal identities to be here and work here. They are all criminals.

>>140359071
>literally wants to destroy his ethnicity and is happy about it
What the FUCK is Bob's problem

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Reminder that the DA in DACA stands for Deferred Action, which is no longer deferred now

>>140361904

He thinks that if he vitue signals hard enough, a girl will touch his penis before he dies of a heart attack or diabetes.

>>140359071
What's a Daca?

>>140361697
Bullshit. Their fence jumping parents still speak Spanish at home. They grew up speaking it

>>140362085
a northern sudaca

>>140359071
>superior 21st century Americans

jesus christ this obese kike is insane

>>140361634
Mexico don't want them. They are NOT Rabi Blancos they are peasants. Worse, now they believe they are entitled peasants. Mexico will end up killing thousands of them to put the natives back in their place.

>>140359071
>obsolete white American peasant
>Superior brown Mexican retard masterrace

>>140361766
>thatsthejoke.jpg

>>140361649
Really. If they are so assimilated why are they waving Mexican flags all the damn time.

>>140362085
Obama's legal illegal spics that get free gib me dats

>>140361635
Maybe you guys can donate to a fund or something.

>>140359071
Yesterday I was talking to a fellow American who thought it's impossible to send them back if they don't want to go. I said just watch. Traitors like this Chipman will guarantee that it happens. Americans who today are saying, "Gosh, we can't be mean to little children with nowhere to go" will be saying, "Why bother to deport them when we can just shoot them where they stand?"

>>140361903
If they're paying into social security who cares?
It's like free money.

>>140361465
It's 8 years old, with SOURCES at the bottom. I would imagine the costs would be higher now, as more illegals have entered the US in the last 8 years, but that's just simple logic.

>>140362085
deferred action for childhood arrivals. obama wrote the executive order in 2012 that protected non-criminals who were 16-31 years of age (i think) and had been in this country since 2007.

>>140361697

>we can't move to Mexico, we don't know the language or culture
>who cares if millions of illegals move to America despite not knowing the language or the culture
Nice libfag doublethink

>>140359342

1st post got it right

>>140362418
>and Mexico will pay for it
Gullible faggot

>>140359071
Pro
Laws are actually being enforced. It's pointless to have laws or police, if nothing is enforced. Corporations will actually have to pay a living wage to people to do work.

Cons
?????

I have my own garden and pick my own vegetables. I don't understand why everyone is freaking out over laws being enforced.

>>140362372
The real issue here is that these folks and their parents were INVITED by the Rats trying to import voters. This is just another steep to secure these millions of Rat votes. The GOP has two options. Grow a pair or bend over.

>>140359071
It does not mean they are leaving. I repeat.... it does not mean they are leaving. We will continue to support illegals. You didn't see Trump cutting funding to food stamps or welfare for housing. They will float in limbo, and Congress will do nothing.

>>140362454
Haven't more illegals left back to Mexico than entered the US since 2008?

>>140359071
You know, every time I read another retarded statement from liberals about DACA it just makes me support Trump more in the decision. Anything that can produce this level of butthurt from the American left is a good thing for America.

dude i'm latino and i still think they should fuck off back to where they came from

>>140359071
Modern-day slave owners would have to pay a competitive wage

>>140362783
Well he can't do anything else

>>140361579
Maybe they realized how anti-semitic fighting the 1% is

>>140362755
Sure... and we continued to let anybody in the country along with all their family members. They're not leaving and they have lots of children. You're in denial

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob
Holy shit this guy is such a gigantic fucking faggot goddamn

>>140359707
América wasn't América until Columbus got here.

Stay mad.

>>140362681
He literally did

Check the countdown

>>140360783
You had to be under 31 to qualify for DACA. Fucking 31. Very few of these people are "Children"

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>>140361404

Pros: Rule of Law

Cons: Avocado prices increased by 2%

>>140362846
So more have left than have come in

>>140362474
So are they no longer illegals if they fill the requirements or are they illegals who can't be deported?

>>140359071
>all whites are awful except me!

Everytime

>>140362887
If you don't actually know who he is, read his ED article for a laugh.

I was illegal in USA, applied for a student visa in Canada, came here and finished school, filed for PR and got it via work.

Why the fuck are you morons still sitting in usa when there's no path, just come over here.

>>140359071
>>140361904
He dresses up as Mario characters, he probably legit has autism. He's just a little bit less crazy than Chrischan.

>>140362944
No he didn't. Do any of you leave the house? My family went to a tourist attraction out in the middle of the woods in Virginia over the weekend.... we were one of three white families out of 5000 people. Can you guess what the other people were?

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>brought here as baby
>grow up and get educated, work hard, contribute to society, don't ever commit a crime, net positive effect on US,
>comply with laws to get citizenship
>watch fat betas on NEETbux sperg out
GET OUT YOU BROWN FAGGOT I WAS SHIT OUT BY MY MOM HERE REEEEEE

>>140362984
Wasn't fruit rotting off the trees in Cali this summer?

>>140362430
>people with shallow emotions can swing from friendliness to barbarity on a dime

Are humans subhuman?

>>140360749
This. The end all be all of "government assistance" is to get as many people reliant on the government as possible to secure a never ending democrat administration.
>But MUH illegals can't vote
Not while Poppy Trumps in office maybe.

>>140363127
>as long as I feed Mr Nosestein's (((economy))) I should be legally welcome in this country
Fuck off.

>>140360983

Your parents don't pay the mortgage and you become homeless. Do you blame your parents, or do you blame the bank?

>>140362755
Do you have a source for that?
>more people left a first world country for poverty and corruption because I said so.
Yeah, No. half of Mexico is ran by cartels. You're too dumb to walk and breathe at the same time if you honestly believe what you typed.

>>140359071
More like 21st century mexicans.

>>140362998
Over the last decade it is estimated about a million illegals have left the USA due to the weak economy.

>>140363104
Why don't you just go back to home country? Is it really the important to you to mooch off whites?

>>140363102
I knew he did movie review, I've seen some but this ED of him is fucking great

>>140363127
Go back ya gypsy faggot

>>140363394
Just wait for the collapse. It's the only way people we leave.

Easier to deport people, that is all.

>>140363123
>using anecdotal evidence to make an argument

You're an idiot

>>140362439
>If they're paying into social security who cares?
>It's like free money.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Social Security is the Biggest, Most Jewish ponzi scheme in history and you know it.

>>140363400
I was brought over to USA as a kid and spent most of my life here. I have nearly no memory of my home nation, and some basic language ability.

Also I'm from Russia so kek to you, i'm not a Mexican.

>>140363530
We have over 30 million illegals in this country. Feel free to keep rambling on.....

>>140363127
Your people shit up your home countries, fuck off back to them. You will turn our countries into the shit holes you fled because of your awful culture. Nobody wants you, go back.

>>140363083
still illegal, but granted temporary amnesty until we could figure out what to do with them.

we never figured out what to do with them, so Trump killed the executive order and is letting congress hash it out

>>140363575
>I'm from Russia

So you have even less of an excuse for invading and stealing from north American countries. At least the beaners are from the same continent.

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>>140359071
>Okay, Americans, I want you to make a list of all the pros and cons of ending DACA
Pros
1. Decreases the amount of illegal immigration to the United States
2. Hurts the cartels human trafficking business
3. Lowers the burdens on all state resources from hospitals to policing
4. Lowers the amount of federal resources being used (example: SCAAP reimbursements)
5. Increases education quality in local areas since school resources won't be needed to invest in students who don't know how to speak English
6. Sending them back allows possible changes to occur in Mexico or etc government that would increase the quality of living in said countries
7. Creates more market demands for innovation in the agriculture, construction, and service industry's that used significant amount of illegal labor
8. Decreases the amount of criminality such as homicides, drug trafficking, and identity theft

Cons
1. Markets would influx wider on a short term basis

Cont.

>>140359071
>chipman
Immigrants might actually be superior to someone who's ancestors made chips and decided to name themselves after it tho

>>140363339
http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/11/19/more-mexicans-leaving-than-coming-to-the-u-s/
https://nytimes.com/2015/11/20/us/more-mexican-immigrants-leaving-us-than-entering-report-finds.html
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jun/22/bill-clinton/bill-clinton-zero-net-migration-mexico-2010/
>A more complete study of net migration from Mexico came out in 2012. ThePew Research Center reportedback then that based on census data from both sides of the border, from 2005 to 2010, more people moved from America to Mexico than the reverse.

Trumpfags are retarded

I think most people just don't understand how difficult it is to be granted a green card in this country. You either need to have a family member that is a citizen or get married to a citizen to even have a chance.

If you don't have either, you're fucked. By deporting these people, you just hurt the ones that are trying to do well in the country they grew up in.

>>140363613
Keep telling us how your vacation with your mom is proof that Trumps policies won't work you fucking mongoloid

>>140363945
And here's the archive
>https://nytimes com/2015/11/20/us/more-mexican-immigrants-leaving-us-than-entering-report-finds.html
https://archive.is/JiCdv
>http://politifact com/punditfact/statements/2015/jun/22/bill-clinton/bill-clinton-zero-net-migration-mexico-2010
https://archive.is/i6Zdh

>>140363927
2. Cause some businesses to default
3. Cause some price increases in the agriculture, construction, and service industries

>>140363150
Fuck if I know. All I can tell you is if you go to any grocery store in America you'll find fruit in the fruit section. So... Who cares?

>>140363870
My father was going to be killed by the mafia and escaped to the USA to avoid it (he was an accountant and figured out something he wasn't supposed to see).

There was no other way around it.

>>140364006
>it's hard to commit immigration fraud boohoo

Kys you idiot

>>140364097
Because that's billions of dollars of waste because farmers can't find workers to pick the fruit

>>140364006
If COngress passed a law saying the could stay but none of their descendants could vote until the 5th generation not ONE politician would give a shit about these people. Think about that.

>>140361457
Isn't this a federal crime? Knowingly hiring illegal aliens?

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>>140359071
You stupid fag.
This is like the 50th time somebody has asked me this.
I'll give a quick rundown and I want you to screencap this and post it on every one of these threads with regards asking what DACA is.
Here's the basic gestalt
>Be Obongo
>Marco Rubio is introducing DREAMer legislation
>It protects people who were brought to this country as children
>Obongo is getting bad press as the so called "deporter in chief"
>so obongo, rather than letting republicans get good pub from their cycles bill, he instead enacts a faulty executive order which can easily be undone by the next president
>the executive order has retard logic backing it and would very easily be shot down if taken to court
>but obongo doesn't care because it helps him with voters in the upcoming 2012 elections
>flash forward
>Trump is president and ran on repealing those executive orders
>obongo LITERALLY begs trump not to do it, literally saying "dey was good kids, dry dindu nuffin"
>trump has a weak spot for kids so he keeps it
>but now it's going to get struck down by the courts and so trump, rather than set a precedent that it will never come back, instead rescinds the executive order and tells congress to do what they were going to do originally

Why it's bad
>first off most of them aren't kids
>as a matter of fact only 20% are kids
>most are literally in their 30's
>furthermore thanks to retarded ICE policies they also can't deport the parents of these young adults as it would "break up families"
>so in addition to the 800,000 legalized their parents also mostly stay
>furthermore it's just backdoor amnesty
>you see these """"kids"""" don't even have full-citizenship
>they're literally second class citizens.
>coincidentally they also earn low income
>and they also coincidentally help out big business
>that's why google
>(((zuckerberg)))
>and nearly every lobbyist in the country wants it
>because it floods the middle class with shiny new mestizo janitors (1/2)

>>140364006
>Immigrating legally is a bit difficult, therefore I have an absolute right to do it illegally!

Fucking neck yourself.

>>140364006
>just don't understand how difficult it is to be granted a green card in this country

Oh we understand. Can you explain to me why we should increase the amount of unskilled labor and how that benefits the nation as a whole?

>>140364113
I guess that's a better excuse than most. Just quit encouraging illegal Mexicans to flood Canada, they need to go back to Mexico and fix it with the training they received here.

>>140364298
They hired DACA recipients that have legal work permits.

what a fucking faggy world we live in

>>140364418
>fix mexico

That's a joke right? The whole nation is run by blood thirsty gangs, the whole gov is paid for by them. These people are gonna get murdered over there once they try to make some waves/business if they don't do what cartels want.

>>140361404
that child looks retarded as fuck. I've seen downs kids with more life in their face

>>140359071
Ask Canada.

>>140364559
I just think it's hilarious we are getting shit for enforcing our laws. Does Mexico have a dreamers act? Lmfao

>>140364658
I visit Mexico 3 times a month (I'm a legal Mexican) you have no idea what you're talking about kek. Mexico isn't anymore dangerous than most major u.s cities.

>>140363127
maybe you should have applied for legal citizenship. mudflap

>>140364441

Those permits are about to be no longer valid. If he still employs them past the expiration of those permits, he is committing a felony. Multiple felonies.

>>140364299
>coincidentally they also earn low income
>and they also coincidentally help out big business
>that's why google
>(((zuckerberg)))
>and nearly every lobbyist in the country wants it
I honestly find both funny and sad that people are promoting modern slavery (let's be honest, is what it is) and think they are good people because "at least they aren't racist"

>>140364658

I'm not shedding any tears for people who drive down my wages, scam and drain benefits, and drive up housing costs and then spit in my face when I express concern on how that will negatively effect me. Not shedding one single tear. I might have cared if they weren't such brazen cunts. But they were. So... off they go.

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>>140364299
(2/2)
>that they can hire for cheap and also dump more competition onto an already flooded middle-class
You see this is what our business overlords do.
They use our empathy against us when they want cheap labor, hoping that we don't view the immigration issue from any perspective other than the linear "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" perspective.
And then with the other foot they stomp on our human empathy and emotions and tell us to think "rationally" on things like whether or not I should pay 60 cents an hour just for breathing in order to stop (((climate change))).
And so here we our the outcasts of society literally screaming "(((THEYRE))) USING YOUR EMPATHY AND EMOTIONS AGAINST YOU!!! THINK OF THE LONG TERM EFFECTS OF THIS!!!" And are getting spit on for it.
We're running straight up to the sheep being fed to the alien invaders and screaming at the top of our lungs "(((THEY))) ARENT TRYING TO HELP YOU!!! TO SERVE MAN DOESNT MEAN TO HELP YOU!!! ITS A COOKBOOK"
And nobody listens and nobody will listen because nobody cares.
In this social media day and age mindless virtue signaling is encouraged because then we can pretend we're all still human.

Now screw you OP for making my coffee get cold.
I hope you die.

>>140365000
You should have seen Anthony Bourdain complain that his restaurant will suffer financiallg because immigration laws will force him to hire Americans and pay them minimum wage. He's upset he can't take advantage of slave labor from Mexico, it was pretty disgusting and entitled.

>>140364274
>farmers refuse to pay a decent wage
>cry about losing money

>>140359342
Fpbp

>>140365316
They pay $17 an hour, fag

>>140364274
Then the farmers should have relied on a business model that wasn't completely and absolutely dependent on an illegal labor source. The fruit market will now be able to correct its prices and pay higher wages.

>Oh, gee, I can't find legal workers to pick fruit for half of the minimum wage. Golly that's unfair for me.

C'mon...

>>140364274
I guarantee you'll find American workers if you pay a competitive wage.
>But muh slave labor!
Just because you've gotten used to decades of bad policies doesn't mean they are acceptable.

>>140365132
>>140364299
Except even if the courts struck it down that wouldn't stop Congress from making it a law you Europleb. What Trump is doing is daring Thom Tillis (who has one of the lowest approval ratings in the Senate) to try, just TRY and pass a law in the next 6 months when the budget and tax reform both take priority and midterm primaries are just around the corner after the New Year.

They've got nowhere to go, nothing they pass will pass the House.

>>140360412
>smart illegal
Cool. Send her back home to fix her country.

>>140365536
They will have to pay more than $17 then

>>140365549
They pay $17 an for a hard job, that's not minimum wage
>>140365620
$17/hr isn't enough for Americans?

>>140364716
Mexico's strategy is historically to take illegals who come to Mexico, dump them on the US border and tell them to go here. Mexico is extremely unhappy right now because a lot of "mexican" illegals are central americans that will be dumped in Mexico. On top of that there are thousands of Haitian illegals currently in Mexico who can't get into America now that border enforcement is way up and they're down there nigging as niggers tend to do.

>>140364017
yeh because now theyre all here illegally. thanks for reiterating that.

>>140365806
Oh, yeah. I hear McDonalds pays about $45.

>>140365806
I see so why aren't you doing that job? Oh right because you're pulling that shit out of your ass from some five seconds in google where you believed the first sob story from some jewy farmer complaining "I totally pay 17 dollars an hour guys!".

>>140359071
Pros: Saving the English Language.
Cons: Less taco trucks.

>>140361542
> aside from being illegal immigrants.
> illegal immigrants are illegal.
> even Obama funded border protection and the massive increase in funds were instated two years before he took office, and he kept that increase all 8 years he ran.
Grow up.

>>140365806
Employers raise wages until they have enough workers. It's basic supply and demand. So, $17 may or may not be enough depending on the other options available to workers, including but not limited to the commute, the pay, and the working conditions.

>>140365316
That's my town. This rancher was crying that his ranch is suffering because the Mexicans all fled after Trump won. He complained that no Americans would for him but his pay is 40 bucks a day for 12 hours of work. Also his ranch hands would feed the illegals amphetamines to work harder and if they got hurt he would brush off liability by testing their piss and using the drugs in their system to put blame on them.

>>140361404
Stunning and brave.

>>140365745
Why? They had people who could actually work the demanding job without crying. It's not the money that makes Americans not want to work, it's how hard and demanding the job is. Americans wouldn't do that job for $30/he and you wouldn't pay for the mark-up on your food
>>140365948
They pay around $12/hr
>>140365970
I don't want to work in the files, dipshit. My job has heat in the winter and A/C in the summer, fuck picking fruit
>>140366099
You won't pay what they would charge for food if they had to pay more for the workers

>>140365837
Yeah I actually read about the Haitians the other day, our border policies were such a joke when you look at how many people fly to Mexico to cross into the u.s illegally.

>>140366239
Do you get paid to act this stupid or do you do it for basically free (ie: $17/h)?

>>140365633
I hope you're right.
I forgot I even had a euro flag. I think I was LARPING as an EU representative once

>>140361699
you mean good for cheap labor so you kikes can make profit right Mr. Shekelgoldbergstein?

>>140366239
Who cares? Daca is cancelled, your crying isn't changing anything. Farmers aren't paying beaners 30 an hour, you're a fucking idiot. I live in Texas and work on ranches and I make 16 an hour as a legal American college kid so shut the fuck up. You're not fooling anyone.

You're also obviously a spic in panic mode.

>>140364006
>By deporting these people, you just hurt the ones that are trying to do well in the country they grew up in.
By deporting them we're showing how we're standing up for the rule of law.

>>140362984
muh guac bowls

>>140366429
You don't know shit, I had to educate you on how much a farmhand makes because you're retarded and get all your news from /pol/
>>140366516
It's not cancelled, he passed the buck to Congress who won't do shit. I never said they got paid $30/he, you dumb faggot

>>140366239
If Americans won't do it for $30, then offer to pay them even more until they do. Naturally, the price will go up as supply goes down. The produce market will adapt to supply and demand. There might be fewer lbs of produce that's more expensive at the end of the day if farmers have to pay Americans competitive wages. Your slaves are gone now

>>140366800
You literally said Americans wouldn't do it for 30 and I just said I do it for 16. Like u said, you're a dishonest idiot.

Your views are shit if you have to make shit up to defend them.

>>140366801
>let's cripple a mutli-billion dollar industry because I'm a stupid Trumpfag

>>140367027
>Resorts to name calling
Sad. Pathetic.

>>140366800
Spent every summer of my life from 13 years old until 20 years old picking berries in SW Ontario for WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY less than $17/h...

So I know more than you. I bet you're some pasty fucker with the worlds softest pinkest hands.

You have yet to """educate""" anyone on anything. All you did was say $17 like it was some self-evident fact lol.

Nigger.

>>140367010
If they are willing to do it why is fruit rotting in the fields because of the lack of workers? Your a dumb college kid that fell for the trumpfag me
>>140367112
>I'm emotionally attached to a faggot politician
>please don't be a meanie
Cry more

>>140367027
You already did that during the Civil War though.

>>140367027
They are crippling themselves if the only way they can operate is by breaking the law. They deserve to fail, making money while taking advantage of the nation is pretty low and I wouldn't shed a tear if they starved to death. If you do nothing for your country your country shouldn't be expected to do anything for you. I work on a ranch that 100% hires legal American including legal Latino and we do just fine.

Sorry paco

>>140360412
looks like a tranny

>>140367261
Overgrowth, fruit might be rotting but it sure isn't missing in stores. Farmers are paid by the U.S. government to destroy over grown crops to protect the market anyways. You'd know that if your lazy was ever worked on a farm paco.

>>140367157
>projection
Maplenigger trumpfags are cancer
>>140367310
Yeah, they should act like the president and dodge taxes

>>140367261
(Or maybe the "billions of dollars of fruit rotting in the field" is an outright lie by shareblue fags like you)

You know, like the $17 wage or the """fact""" that Americans wouldn't pick fruit for $30 an hour... even though in most states they do for far far less.

>>140367498
>you've never worked on a farm
>that means your a mexican
You're Retarded

>>140367027
>let's pursue maximum profits at the expense of our moral principles

When did liberals suddenly become heartless capitalists? If a business is impossible without resorting to under the table employment of near-slave labor, maybe it should not exist.

>>140367578
>mah Trump

The go to catchphrase for people with no argument. I didn't even vote Trump.

>>140367676
Liberals have always been shills for corporatism, not to be confused with capitalism

>>140367659
You're*

Learn English paco

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>>140359071
Some form of action dealing with DACA was bound to happen eventually and I think this was the best way to go about it. This is a sudden end to a near 5 year old executive order that basically put the whole thing on pause for the next guy and hopefully democrat ran senate/house to deal with.

I believe this was one of the few smart moves Trump has made as what happens next entirely depends on congress (who up until this point has done nothing of value for the last near decade) which means THEY FINALLY HAVE TO DO THEIR FUCKING JOBS AND MAKE THE HARD CHOICES.

Whether they get deported or given amnesty doesn't matter to me at this point as all I really want is the rule of law and order to be enforced for fucking once in my damned lifetime.

Pros of DACA
>Keeps those who are probably assimilated, here
>Yada yada moral fee fees argument
>Means now they can become contributors rather than parasites

Cons for keeping DACA (or giving amnesty)
>Massive announcement to the Mexicans that we give no shits about the law and if you can hide long enough you'll get what you want
>Just more immigration issues
>America becomes browner
>Rule of law not enforced

>>140367609
>shareblue
Just stop, Trumpfag. Before you start ranting about Soros and more conspiracy theories that should embarrass you
>>140367676
>you're not a dumb Trumpfag
>must be a liberal
Dipshit
>>140367795
You're dumb as dog shit, you didn't correct anything fag

>>140368007
>you didn't correct anything
>that means YOUR a Mexican

God you get dumber with every post. Mexico is not sending it's best.

>>140367788
>Liberals have always been shills for corporatism

Yeah, but they aren't supposed to be consciously aware of it?

This supposed liberal is literally arguing that we should continue near-slave labor employment of Mexicans to prevent the agricultural industry from being disrupted.

>>140368211
Remember when the left protested shit like globalism and corporatism back in the 90s? Times sure have changed

EL TRABAJO TE LIBERA

>>140368143
Look at the post you "corrected" me on, I said "you're".
You are fucking dumb

>>140360412
Good, now she can go back to where she came from and make it better place. Shell most likely still bitch about having to go back despite getting a free world class education and a healthy childhood provided for. Bitch should be saying thank you and promising to turn her home country into a world power and steadfast ally of the US.

>>140368007
I think your (not "you're") brain's rotting in a field somewhere.

>Mexicans make $17/h to pick fruit even though Americans in other states make minimum wage doing the EXACT SAME JOB. Da fruit is rotting in da fields! Economy crippled!

>>140368007
I worked on a farm since I was 14 about for 10 usd an hour. Under the table ofc so tax free.
Did that during school until about 19.

>>140368434
*looks*

>that means your a mexican

Confirmed for idiot.

>Superior
Come on now, I'm Latino and even I know those brown manlets are far from superior people

>>140359071
First and foremost, OP is a Nazi LARP faggot.
As for your question
pros:
>less crime
>less gibs
>discourages illegal immigration
>BTFOs "open border" idiots
>Reduces future Democratic voter base
>improved standard of living and quality of life for legitimate citizens

cons:
>what, did your parents come here illegally thinking you would all get your cocks sucked by the white race?
>fuck off

>>140368211
Yeah it's strange isn't it? It's hardcore corporatism, whether he comprehends it or not. This is the case for most liberals, I imagine. I wonder what dogma could allow one to support something while so unaware of what they're supporting.

>>140368434
>your a Mexican

Is what you said you stupid faggot. It's you're a Mexican. Holy shit are you b8ing or are you really this fucking stupid?

>>140368491
That's not bad, better than McDonald's for minimum wage.

>>140359071
Pros:
They have to go back.

Cons:
None.

>>140368585
>>140368723

>one mistake on a single post
Trumpfags are worse than liberals

>>140361115
That's considered "receiving stolen goods", a criminal offense. Poor analogy.

>>140368766
Yeah at my age making more money than my peers was pretty good.
I could get a game for myself every day if I wanted to be a sperg about it.
Saved most of it, used some on college.

I also worked with two cute girls and sometimes during breaks we would just get to hang out in the fields.
Pretty fun.

>>140363243
All humans have the capacity for great evil.

>>140368872
>one mistake on a single post... that I looked over again and again and again and again and couldn't find the problem with

Do you just flip a coin when the 'your' - 'you're' problem comes up? What do you do with their, there and they're? Do you roll three-sided dice you fucking dunce?

>>140360917
This is the "you wouldn't download a car!" Argument, lmao

>>140359071
Pros: Illegal leeches go back where they belong
Cons: Illegal leeches use pathos to make white women cry and complain

>>140360783
Neither did the kid whose dad we locked up for murder and who grew up without a father.

Shit sucks, but they can thank their shitty parents for that. Rules are rules.

>>140361213
This is a bad example, after you spend x amount of years squating in a vacant house legally the house is yours

>>140369059
>autocorrect
Do trumpfags always harp on spelling mistakes when they can barely articulate their arguments in an echo chamber?

>>140361202
I love how he left the thread rather than answering.

>>140369134
Yeah physically taking up space and resources is the same thing as downloading a shareable and nonconsumable thing.

>>140367659
>>140367795
>>140368007
>>140368143
>>140368434
>>140368723
>>140368872
>>140369059
Mexicans confirmed for illiterate.
SUPERIOR 21ST CENTURY AMERICAN CANNOT READ

>>140369231
It's like throwing the kid in jail with the father because Dad had his kid in the car while he went into the house and shot people

>>140369446
I'm white

>>140365728
this. brain drain should be combated to give these nations the best chance of moving forward.

>>140369134
How so? Because the both have the word "car" in it?

>>140369504
I mean white people can be stupid too.
Every race has idiots in them.
Some white people can't type or spell at all so there ya go.

>>140368491
Please respond to this.
I'm white and so we're my coworkers.
We lived in new jersey.

>>140369134
We really wouldn't mind if the Mexicans downloaded our constitution and our way of life and used it in Mexico to make it as great as America is. If they copied our system and became wealthy and powerful, we'd respect them and treat them as friends. Instead, they wallow in crime and fail to produce anything of value besides muh ethnic food and then sneak into our homeland and bring their crime and degenerate behavior here. Entering our land and filling it with shit is not really the same as copying what we have for yourself.

>>140359071
pros:
mexicans gets deported
liberal tears
much laughter

cons:
can only end daca once

>>140369504
Not if you can't read, Paco.

You have to go back.

>>140360783
This is like someone introducing termites to your house but your family members won't let you do anything about them because it's "immoral"

This whole situation is so fucking stupid. All Trump did was pass the matter along to be properly legislated instead of being the result of illegal exectuive orders. If those people end up getting deported they have no one but Congress to blame for it.

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>>140359071
>"Native americans just fucking sucked LOL why complain about getting replaced by superior people?"

>>140369314

Was $17/h autocorrected from something less stupid too?

>$17/h
>Just don't look it up
>Durr herr trumpfags

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Give me something offensive to post in the Reddit megathread to gurantee a lot of replies

>>140369262
Only if you are paying for it, and the rightful owner is, but it's almost like the opposite is going on with illegal immigrants who would have thought that

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It's like fucking election day all over again, love it.

>>140361681
exactly! we've already spent a shit ton of money educated these cunts, so let's shackle the high-achieving ones into debt slavery over here

>>140362960
source needed

>>140363394
And 12 million didn't and they all had 5 kids each.

>>140361903
>Admitting to a crime on the internet

That will go well..

>>140370205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcEc8zeNYxI

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>>140359071
pros: beaners, shitlibs, and semites btfo

cons: 404pagenotfound

All those Hillary voters. Gone. :)

>>140364876
everything about your statement is wrong

>>140364006
Oh well.

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pros

>>140360302
Fucking bring it. Ive got guns ammo and a strange desire to die.

>>140359071
pros of repeal: saves schools money, since education is mostly funded through property taxes, and illegal students don't pay property taxes since they can't own property legally. At best they pay rent to someone who owns property, but even still they usually pay with cash under the table and thus untaxed as a renter.

Cons:
Doesn't really fix the immigration problem(since illegals that are the problem are being funneled into low paying jobs, not into schools)
It's somewhat unfair since none of those on DACA were old enough to consent to being dragged to the US, and they're making the effort to become citizens(path to citizenship is currently massively backlogged and shitty, like the VA is)

>>140363127
Why didn't you get citizenship you lazy spic?

>>140360302
>Need to prove that you are as good of an American as anyone else
>use gang violence to target innocent families of the rightful owners of the country
Mexican intellectuals

>>140360783
God you are such a fag

>>140361681
pretty fucking rotten country where the law abiding population is treated like shit just so that criminal freeloaders can have a nice life.

>>140359342
Fpbp

>>140369787
Mexico is, despite doom and gloom on the MSM, doing a very strong turn around in the last decade or two. They went from being an absolute shithole to a relatively secure(aside from a few cities) nation.

Most illegal immigrants now that are the problem are from places like Guatemala, Peru, and other countries like it. They flee violence, and hop on a boat or 'visit their uncle'

used to work ina warehouse where my boss hired a bunch of illegals on the side- None of them worked for more than 7$/hour and every single one was from Guatemala. Absolutely horrid people

>>140359071

Pro: Enforcing the law

Con: ???

If you grant amnesty to people here illegally, the illegal of tomorrow will expect the same thing in the future. It only encourages more criminality.

Plus DACA didn't have a leg to stand on legally.

hey guys my name is alberto. I know this post will probably be ignored by most of you but i want to tell you my live story. i am the son of two peasant farmers from guadalajara mexico and at the age of two my parents with my parents struggling to afford basic necesities for their newborn son like diapers and formula due to a crop shortage they decided that it would be better for them to cross the border into the us. A country which they knew was far more successful and safe than mexico but they also knew that the trek was a long and treacherous one. It really isn't the fault of anyone how destiny plays out in favors of some but to the disadvantage of others. How there are so many things defined for each individual before they are even born. I will say that illegally immigrating into this not the proper way but in the end it turned out to be the right choice for my family and my future. In much the way I do not blame the pilgrims for sailing across the ocean to settle on the lands of indians for hopes of a better tomorrow, I do not place culprit on my parents for doing the same. I am 24 years old now and I am a quant for a bank here in new mexico and I couldn't love and be grateful to this country any more than I do. I pay my taxes, I look after people in my community who need help, I am courteous and I follow the law. I've also had the privilege of meeting a beautiful girl whom i plan on proposing to in the coming months if everything goes well for my future. So after that said, why do you want to strip all of that away from me? What harm do I bring upon you?

thanks for reading and God bless you and America.

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>>140370961
>some arbitrary 74 year calculation

>>140371297
Backtraced and the cyber police are otw

>>140361697
I very highly doubt that. Even the most well integrated second generation immigrants I know still speak their parent's language fluently.

>>140370961
>To Catholics who say #DACA youths aren't following US law: Do you feel the same way about same-sex marriage? That we should follow US law?

I... I don't even know what he's trying to get at. What?

>Nearly 1 gorillion young immigrants came out of shadows on promise America would let them stay.

What does the D in DACA stand for, Mr. Sanchez?

>>140370961
>Senator complaining about this

Then do your fucking job and vote about nigger holy hell

>>140371297
>>thanks for reading and God bless you and America.

im an atheist, and no you have to go back

>>140359071
>calling us obsolete
>browns can only take a white nation by sneaking in and crying for white sympathy
utterly pathetic.

>>140361635
How much does it cost? And what about the 20 years, I read otherwise.

>>140371758
>I... I don't even know what he's trying to get at. What?
He's saying that if you oppose same-sex marriage you have to approve of illegals living in your country.

>>140371972
Ah. So it's a "gotcha" for people who don't think about the comparison for even one instant.

>>140359071
pros: more benefits for American children

cons: paying more for almonds

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You glorious bastards know what to do

>>140372380
>this country was built by immigrants

White European immigrants who weren't breaking any laws by being here

>>140372380
Also I worked for 3 years in the sun with other spics, the younger ones like this shitstain were lazy as fuck and checked their phone every minute while the oldfag legal immigrant spics and myself picked up the slack
>>140372531
I bet when he says that he imagines other spics building america lol

>>140359071
>unironically uses the term superior americans
>doesn't understand the irony of sounding like a nazi

>>140372380
707 is probably his area code

>>140372910
>>140372910
yup, he literally says in the comment that his whole town is brown, 707 is spicland

>>140373017
part of the comment cut off
it's on @angry_vet_ 's page

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I love how they all act like getting sent back to Mexico is a death sentence.

>>140360412
I get quite sick of Mexican women retweeting this shit. Fact is, a huge chunk of them are nothing like this woman. Vast majority of them are high school drop outs. Back to Mexico you go.

>>140366801
Guess what? The average wage for Mexican pickers is now $22 an hour. Not even Mexicans want to work for less. And we know any American would do it for less. There is no reason for illegals anymore. Time to send hem back.

>>140374094
>There is no reason for illegals anymore
You have no idea about the lengths coastal whites will go through to virtue signal. Who would've thought that mass virtue signaling could create an immigration bubble like this? If the economics are determinate, we need to pop that bubble yesterday.

>>140374094
Shit. I'd pick tomatoes for $14 an hour

>>140373395
>getting sent to a country you barely remember if at all
>getting kicked out of your home
This is why we need the 2nd amendment

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>>140368431
underrated

>>140375868
>I'll be leaving behind my 3 college degrees

You don't have to leave behind your college degrees. You just have to leave.

>>140360783
yeah man me too
I think we all just need to relax and have a nice cool glass of tap water

>>140359071

800,000 Jobs for real Americans!

I have DACA. Mother, sister, and I moved to the US since mother was sibling sponsored. Sister is younger than I am, only by almost a couple of years, therefore she qualified for immigrating with my mom, unfortunately I aged out during the immigration process and became an overstay. So many people moving here sacrifice lots: we sold our home back in our native country and our savings quickly lost their purchase power when converting them to USD.

Several years later, I helped my mother and my sister become naturalized citizens since I actually enjoy doing paperwork and figuring out shit. A few years later, my mom had an injury at work and became physically disabled. My sister had a child with a guy from Yurop and moved there... the fucking irony, by coming to this country, she ended up with an additional permanent resident permit. Now it's just my mother and me. Mother hadn't worked long enough in the US before having the accident, therefore she doesn't qualify for social security disability, she has employer insurance, but it only covers the injury medical stuff, and she has no savings since that shit runs out quickly when facing multiple problems all at once.

DACA allows me to help my mother more easily and for me to live a more normal life without fear of being pulled over and given a hefty ticket for not having a driver's license or arrested and transferred to ICE.

The move here was stressful as fuck and we took years to settle down, having no identify is stressful as fuck, not being able to visit your extended back in your native country sucks, too. I am the sole breadwinner and losing DACA would make things much more stressful now that I have a disabled parent who doesn't qualify for any sort of help.

My mother's dreams dreams got blasted and I'll probably blast my fucking head off eventually. My experiences in the US have been for the most part shit. Fear, loneliness, privations of all sorts, and no social support. I am actually gonna go back... to the void

>>140363150
>Cotton will rot in the fields without slaves to pick it!

>>140359071
>Bob Chipman
>Chipman

>>140378902
You have to go back.

Give your mother a nice life back in your fatherland, anon.

>>140359071
more illegals doing crime now.

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>>140365536
At least pull a somewhat believable number out of your ass.

>>140362146
why dont people get this? if their parents came here illegally, they definitely grew up speaking spanish..

Who the fuck is Bob Chipman? So video game youtube faggot you nerds fucking watch or something?

>>140378902
Nice blog faggot. Pack your bags.

>>140373395

If they love the US so much, they should have been flying our flag and showing greatfulness to their hosts instead of flying the mexican flag and blithering on about "la raza".

>>140378902

What have you done to earn me giving a fuck?