HAPPENING - Estonian ID-card is kill

>>140337974
I don't understand

>>140338124
Cryptographic integrity, key security of Estonian ID and e-identity of card owners is compromised. It is still not 100% confirmed that all the e-identities of ID card owners are lost to attackers but the ongoing damage control points to that.

>voting

most useless act ever. it's like when angelina jolie sends a selfie to her kids. the government fucking HATES you get it in your thick head.

>>140338799
Database leak? Identity leaks? Similar to the Turkish leak?

>>140338993
The current diclosure of fuckup and the damage control means that Estonian e-votes in 2015 elections were most probably tampered.

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>>140339398
Key internal security and public key database are for sure compromised. Government closed public security database today. E-voting and some other cryptographic solutions based on Estonian ID-card use public key database.

But the fallout is yet to land on this. Disclosure of the fuckup is only hours old. Information of that ID card is compromised was received in 30th of august. It was severe enough that it was made public today with heavy damage control. Deeper analysis is coming

>>140339942
*Government closed public key database

>>140337974
The Russians are at it again?

>>140337974
Big, if true

Hot sauce by the way, faggot

>>140340464
Nope.
Germans and French.
They certified this system as secure.

>>140340663
nonetheless, it'll turn out it was the russians. it's always the russians.

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>>140340663
We dindu nuffin.

OP can't be arsed so here's a sors

https://unvis.it/estonianworld.com/technology/possible-security-risk-affects-750000-estonian-id-cards

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>>140340830
Yeah it sure seems like it. Maybe try doing your jobs for once. No striking allowed.

>>140337974
wew good thing I procrastinated on getting the e residence card

>>140340988
B-but... stricking is so comfey?

>>140340911
Danke

>>140340663
How badly will this fuck Estonia? What else are the private keys used for other than voting?

>>140340628
English sauce is coming, keep an eye on this if interested. This is huge.
It was just disclosured here in Estonia and my only reliable sauces are in Estonian. Can you into Estonian?
Make search:
Ministrid, PPA ja RIA andsid ülevaate ID-kaardi kiibi turvariskidest

You will get the source.
Estonian web-pages are somehow labeled as spam by 4chan so I can not post the links (fix it, 4chan).

>>140341077
Break the link up with spaces or archive it and post that

>>140341077
use this: https://www.archive.is

>>140340794
Not this time. The ID card infrastructure and at least public key database are compromised and those are not Russian-made.
Does not fly this time.

>>140337974
Your posts are barely understandable. Be more clear.

>>140340830
Gemalto is one of the jewels of the French industry, if I remember well they invented and have the patents for the chips you find in every electronic card, be it ID or payment (the golden rectangle on your Visa card, it's French).

Ameritards still use the black swipe band, but people from developed country will know what I mean.

>>140341068
> How badly will this fuck Estonia?
Depends on damage control largely atm. And damage control will fail when independent analysises are published.

Implications are that our 2015 e-voting for new parliament is compromised, all public/secret key pair technology using services are fucked and there is probably more if more analysis is made on published info. In press conference they said that they will not publish all info in order to protect our ID card system.

So it is basically security by obscurity right now.
Reeks like major disaster and Estonian government losing all credibility.

>>140341575
Gemalto is not ours anymore.
It's been bought by Americans(Safenet).

>>140341575
THIS.
Approximately 1 billion of various cryptographic cards use their tech.
Our pre-Gemalto made ID cards are declared secure, btw.
(Are they)

>>140339942
That's why you shouldn't trust technology too much

>>140337974
>Gemalto made cryptographic cards are kill.
this is huge if true

>>140341644
So... they basically will have to re-create a new, more secure ID card & infrastructure, distribute it to every citizens, and block any service relying on it in the mean time ?

I hope there are no elections planned anytime soon.

>>140341816
Nice damage control.
When was it sold?

Btw I believe (call it theory) that the source that told our government about our ID card being fucked is cybersec of US intelligence. There are hints about this in our gubmint retards behavior.

>>140340663

This is probably the start of the EU being exposed as evil and corrupt.

They are tired of ignoring and manipulating elections, they want to end them altogether.

Communists are predictable that way.

>>140341984
Now that I think of it, Americans and their nigger-tier swipe bands might actually be safe.

>>140341816
I remember French officials worried about letting such a strategic technology in the hands of ze retarded americans.
Turns out they were right :D

>>140342026
Local elections are planned in October.
There are already calls to abandon e-voting but government has not yet balls to declare it openly.
Their damage control is fubar if they do so right now.

The fallout is yet to come.

>>140342031
I don't try to damage control.
Gemalto is an international corporation (mainly european, I believe Israeli as well).
They still have offices in France but the HQ are now in Belgium or in the Netherlands.

As for when, well if I remember correctly it was in 2014. Consider it a fresh buy.

Democracy is a stupid concept but e-voting without any physical evidence of where the voting went is retarded-tier level shit.

Having said that, if im not mistaken, this was one of the "babies" of that pathetic tool-of-the-Jews with the bow tie (can't remember his name) so i am very happy.

>>140342163
I believe that rn eality it did not pass US cyber certification and they found out even more how fucked it is.
As I said - the source of this information disclosed to our government is most probably US intelligence cyber security

>>140342250
the disclosed fucked up cards originate from 2014 oct and beyond.

>>140342294
>Democracy is a stupid concept but e-voting without any physical evidence of where the voting went is retarded-tier level shit.
I fully agree with you in this.
E-voting is not secure.

>>140341176

Right, but it will turn out that Putin personally broke into the Estonian Government facility and used a magnetic needle to alter individual bits of memory to compromise the system.

Just like how he hacked our election.

>>140341816

Gemplus (French) was acquired by Axalto (a spinoff of Schlumberger) to form Gemalto in 2006. They are based in the Netherlands.

Fuckoff with your anti Americanism. Safenet makes HSMs not ICCs.

>>140342743
Will not fly here.

>>140337974
F

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>>140337974
ahahahahahahah idiots lol its sweden all over again

>>140342467
I'd rather not play the blame game.
But this must be a coincidence.
Either that or Americans don't waste time, or we are smart enough to use the confusion to avoid responsability.

Shady.
I'll lurk here.
Fidem et fortitudinem, et honorem honorem

I used to say all the time that this shit isn't safe, but Estonians would rush to defense and say I'm wrong and etc.

Not happening
http://estonianworld.com/technology/possible-security-risk-affects-750000-estonian-id-cards/

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Prime minister: Estonian e-state will not be affected

>>140341176
I meant it in this >>140342743 sense.

>>140337974
Only a naive fool would not have expected this to happen sooner or later. You have noone to blame but yourselves for this.

>I
for idiots

>>140343040
Sweden needs to be liberated for sure. But his goes beyond Sweden this time for sure.

It is possible that Swedish data fuckup is related.

>>140343151
I myself never trusted this shit.

>“All ID-card operations are still valid and we will take appropriate actions to secure the functioning of our national digital-ID infrastructure. For example, we have restricted the access to Estonian ID-card public key database to prevent illegal use.”

I don't understand this. Public keys are public. The security of PKI does not depend on whether public keys are accessible.

Why shut down the public key database?

>>140343154
Like I said - heavy damage control.
ID card public key database is closed and remains closed and there are veiled reccommendations from government officials to use m-ID, the other electronic ID we have.
Happening in progress, shit hit the fan, fallout yet to land.

>>140343568
Could they use this to commit voter fraud? Seems to be the only thing that makes sense.

>>140343387
The damage control suggests that there is "possible" attack vector from public key to private key and e-identity.
Which is a) bullshit and this goes way deeper than just public key b) attack is already done

>>140343662
>Could they use this to commit voter fraud?
Sure.

Great news! Anything that delays the forced adoption of biometrics, microchips, surveillance, cashlessness and other retarded ideas is a victory in my book.

>>140343791
* attack is already done and all e-identities are stolen and ID card crypto is kill.

Snowden alleged Gemalto's keys were compromised.

Gemalto investigated in early 2015 and said "attempts" were made in 2010 and 2011, but were unsuccessful.

http://www.gemalto.com/press/Pages/Gemalto-presents-the-findings-of-its-investigations-into-the-alleged-hacking-of-SIM-card-encryption-keys.aspx

Is this the 2014 date?

>>140344044
This is 2014 date. Cards from october 2014 and after are said to be compromised.

>>140344044
Btw we had elections in 2015 march. Using those cards and tech.

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>>140342809
Safenet owns the business cuckold.
Also, fuck America.

>>140344311
Gemalto owns the Safenet according to your source, nigger.

>>140344311
oh wow; I seriously misread it.
"Acquisition by", not "of"
Still, fuck America.

>>140344438
Yes, my memory plays with me.

>>140344126
Yeah, I misread. I thought the compromise was for pre-2014 cards.

Card manufactures update the versions of their cards every year or so. It's possible whatever code they incorporated in 2014 is faulty.

Can you pop your card in and tell me what version of Gemalto cards Estonia is using? It would be listed in some sort of properties tab.

>>140344556
It's alright Achmed. (((They))) own it anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemalto#Major_shareholders

>we discovered our ID-cards are compromised
>almost all of our other E-services have problems
>muh E-nation
what a joke
I bet nobody has attempted to hack our services because nobody simply cares about us

>>140344600
My card is from pre-2014.
Fucked up tech nevertheless.
It is kill here, at least for some time, damage control or not.

>>140344600
If I remember it correctly, Estonia switched to Gemalto as manufacturer in 2014. Before this there was some other manufacturer.
I must check this out.

>>140344758
>major shareholders
The biggest ones are French and the biggest shareholder is litteraly our governement.
We might have played you Estonia.

>>140344600
BTW, this june there was a mandatory certificate update to all pre-2014 ID cards of ours.
They said that it is in order to make the system safer.Most probably it was the opposite.

Sounds like you don't have a legitimate government. Sick, it's libertopia, everybody move there while the anarchy is good

>>140345264
I think your asses now belong to US, like in Estonia and United States.
Your government should start lubing their anuses.

Fallout will also hit Germany because of certification of this shit.

>>140343154
>estonianworld.com
literally kike-tier propaganda bullshit
never visit that site again

>>140345112
Oberthur is the only other card manufacturer.

Unless there's some chink startup, but I doubt any nonchinks buy those.

>>140345527
Like I said - if I remember this correctly. But my memory suggests that there was governmental bid and manufacturer changer around this time.

>>140345476
We're lubbed up since 1969 my friend.
It still hurts every fucking day.

>>140345714
It gets confusing because there were multiple manufacturers (safran morpho for example). But they have all been consolidated into Gemalto and Oberthur over the last 10 years. So the underlying implementation could be from an old manufacturer.

>>140337974
I thought you people would have learnt your lesson after the Russkies hacked you. WTF is wrong with your gubmint?

>>140346351
>Russkies hacked you
When?
Not happened or at least not made public.

Russians are not to blame here, the ID card infrastructure (card, keys, etc) is compromised and it is not Russian-made.

>>140346937
Wtf, how old are you? This was massive news when it happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_cyberattacks_on_Estonia

>>140345264

>We might have played you Estonia.

Do they have gold like Gaddafi?

>>140347118
> DDOS flood attack, barely felt here.
> hacking
Fuck you.

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>>140347118
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_cyberattacks_on_Estonia
Is pic related?

>>140347219
French are retarded, always were.
They even tried to conquer Russian shithole, little Napoleons, all of them.

>>140337974
Sauce you fucking autist?

>>140337974
GOD DAMN IT, EESTI.

You were supposed to be the future.

>>140348771
I would say the same about you guys too, but the only time I saw the name of Estonia written somewhere it was on a map, not a history book.

>>140337974
Man, it sure is a good idea to digitalize our complete lives, from money to identity to birth certificates, degrees, and whatnot.
A few keystrokes can reveal or destroy all of a person's life and wealth. Hooray.

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>>140337974
read your source

Pole mitte sittagi artiklis. Nothing + Burger

>>140349601
Damage control forces activated!!!!

I have an Estonian ID card. Does this mean I will have to get a new one?

>>140349839
FUCK OFF VVERE FULL

>>140337974
Are {{{{{{{{[[[[[[[[[((((((((THEY)))))))]]]]]]]]]]}}}}}}}}}}}}} behind it?

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>>140349360
Ye shell come to rue the day thou hast dissed the Eesti. Verily, I say unto ye, ye shall doth burn for thy blasphemy against ye old founder of thy Soome-Viro Khanate.

>>140349949
NO IT'S ((THEM))

>>140349839
E-resident?
Same tech, compromised.

>>140349360
The only time I heard someone speak french was from groups of niggers and arabs in the metro.

>>140343040
>ahahahahahahah idiots lol its sweden all over again
But we have the exact same system for our ID cards.

>>140349713
>thinks I'm shilling

Ok, point out where in the article they mention that anyone's ID has been compromised. They don't. I don't really understand the point of them bringing it up. Looks like politics to me.

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Should I move to Estonia? Would I have to learn Eesti or do you all speak English?

>>140349952
Soome-Eesti khanate, anon.
Viro is drunken finnish and describes only part of estonia because drunk finns do not see very far.

>>140349839
I would delete that post if I were you. Someone is already hacking banks and transferring funds using your identity. Not to mention all the defacing of russian websites to mock Putin.

>>140350121
Freedom, brother!

>>140350152
You're an abbo-chink-irish mixed subhuman bogan mongrel.

Fuck off, nobody wants you to pollute the pure estonian genepool.

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>>140350096
That's Paris m9.

>>140349839
Are you from the Namibian /pol/ony?

>>140350017
No I am a full-time resident, at least on paper. Ok, that sucks.

>>140349052
Read my answer:
>>140341077
also
>>140340911

>>140350270
No abbo nor chink blood but plenty of Irish. No gypsy either.

>>140350152

English works fine in well-off regions, otherwise not. Jobs here pay quite low though while costs of living are disproportionately high.

>>140350252
Holy shit, they can get access to my bank account with this? When did this happen exactly and how will I get my money back if it turns out someone stole my identity?

>>140350544
No, but bank accounts have been opened in your name in many small island nations. Congrats!

post qt esti grills pls

>>140350144
Exactly. Vulnerability published on August 30, September 4 bunch of officials that nave no idea how it works are suddenly claiming EVERYTHING IS FINE MOVE ALONG CITIZEN.

>>140350613
Actually, with my Estonian bank I can login by scanning my ID card in a card reader. So hopefully they haven't made a copy of it somehow.

>>140350471
Irish blood is mixed with negro blood.

>The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new “mulatto” slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076]

Bogan mongrel mickniggers don't belong in Estonia, stay in your cunt.

Pls let Nem-ID be next im so fucking tired of that shit

Gee this internet of things thrend tends to lead to hack attacks, why not include government ids? What could go wrong!

>>140351028
the reserve bank of australia is already pushing for abandoning cash and giving everyone a government fiat digital currency

>someone hacks ATO
>runs off with 60% of the government budget

>>140351203
>buys buttcoins, litecoins, etheureum coins
>Cashes it in in form of houses, cars, euros etc

>>140349601
Loe siit ja tee järeldusi:
>>140350437
Tere politsei, seda kah.

>>140342026
desu, i would trust the new one even less

>>140337974
Intheadsting...

>>140350508
>>140350152
Fuck off, we're full.

Ja sina sitapea kes sa seal englishist sonid - eesti riigikeel on eesti keel. Nüüd mine ja uputa ennast narva jõkke, jevgeni.

>>140341575
>filthy frog niggers are why some places require that stupid gold rectangle
>filthy yuropoor with yellow fever considers it a good thing

Oh how I rejoice every time a mudslime kills more of you filthy fucks

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>>140345523

>>140351740
>his underwear elastic is too tight

>>140350682
Vulnerability was published today. They claim that government received information from still unknown "sources" in 30th of august that there is vulnerability.

>>140351861
irv

>>140351861
>Sten HankeWITZ
Literally every fucking (((time)))

>>140337974
When will the government themselves inform me that my card is "comprimised"?

>>140341575
Requiring the Chip is pretty common nowadays.

>>140340830
Nice try Guillaume

>>140352716
They do not have balls to do this right now and openly declare ID card as unsafe. But they closed public key database of ID card infrastructure and this is a big giveaway that fuckup is massive.
But governmental officials make veiled suggestions/reccomendations to use our other e-identity option - m-ID (which is sadly controlled by nordic, especially Swedish telecoms)

>>140352716
Estonian government damage control team labeled this happening: Estonian ID-card has serious security risk.

Keyword is risk here.

>>140352307
I think -Witz is mostly of German origin here and that's an American Jew thing to use German anglicized names.

>>140355237
>damage control team

Seems kinda serious for your PM to cancel a foreign visit

https://www.baltictimes.com/estonian_prime_minister_cancels_visit_to_poland_due_to_id_card_crisis/

As I mentioned above, cutting off access to public keys makes no sense from a security risk perspective...unless it's just to prevent them from being used.

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>falling for the digitalization meme
>Willingly advancing the mark of the beast
>Not voting of paper

Why are Balts such stupid niggers?

>>140356344
This is most probably extremely serious. The members of damage control team (PM included) were all red-faced and stuttering (except of heavily plastered female minister and police moron who was dead eyed and clueless) in press conference and talked a lot of bullshit.
Also nice excuse for our eurocucks.

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>>140341575
I just finally had to switch over to a chip card because my old one reached its expiration, is my bank account hacked now?

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>>140337974
F

>>140357854
Yeah, none of them know shit. I've done work in this field. Even the govt program managers don't know what they are talking about 90% of the time. They only become less informed as you move up the chain of bureaucracy.

The only reason I can see for cutting off access to the public keys is to prevent things from getting worse.

>bank realizes the combination to the vault is compromised
>1st thing, don't let people put more money in the vault

>>140337974
>muh e-voting

heh with this and shitcoin getting BTFO yesterday oh and DACA is kill, good start to the week famalam lets pray for the hurricane to do its job