3D printing for the red pulled individual

>>140335491
I bought a $10000 one 2 years ago, only thing I ever print is cosplay props for friends & dicks.

useless gadget

>>140335637
That's some shit their usage right there unless you're making a decent income. Why don't you do anything useful?

Just the other day I needed casters - designed them in fusion to go with the hardware I already had and saved myself like £20; not bad considering the nylon I printed them with was only £16

>>140335821
oh wow, how much is your time worth?

>>140335868
Overnight while I was asleep, the design I did on the train while I'd otherwise be doing nothing important

>>140335491
Because people who buy them go on a watchlist, the kind they actually follow up on. I buy my guns from the local dealers because printing them would immediately put me in danger.

>>140335491
Until it can print gun parts that are reliable, I just don't care.

when they get less expensive ill definitely pick one up.

the amount of applications are almost infinite.
as >>140335821 said, being able to quick fix things around the house without having to go to a store would be amazing.

being able to do things /tg/ related, such as make props or custom miniatures seems like the main use id get out of them.

>>140335491

I sell 3DP for my trade.

Unless you’re running a machining shop or need jigs and fixtures or ergonomic testing, 3DP is still an expensive tool for specific use cases.

Much like EKG or radar.

Not sure why people need to make a shitty Yoda head in PLA plastic, it makes these “enthusiasts” look like retarded Chinese factory rejects.

>>140336030
yes, 3D printers are illegal here because they can be used to print guns, drugs and child pornography

>>140335491
Too expensive ATM.
Waiting for technology to be more affordable.

Isn't this basically lathe machine renamed for smartphone generation?

>>140336048
>Until it can print gun parts that are reliable
You do not know, do you?

>>140336059
>>140335868
i print hydroponic parts with filament that dissolves in the terpenes found in the weed i grow in them. its neat

>>140335491
honestly im waiting for multi material ones...

i mean the future looks kinda nice with stuff coming out like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeW1nURJ5ww

>>140336217
>3D printers are illegal here
False. I regularly go a 3D printing meetup in Tokyo, there is no regulation whatsoever about it.

>>140336287

EDM... for fags.

>>140336393
if you get into it now you will understand how cheap and easy new developments come out as well as how to make them work for your setup.

>>140336048
Print > mould > cast.
>>140336059
How cheap? Mine was like £150 and paid itself off printing random crap for people within maybe two months.
>>140336108
Yeah thingiverse is best avoided for the most part unless you want to contract autism.

>>140335491
Because I haven't got autocad. And I cannot draw with such a program.
There's no use having a 3D printer in case your'e not a designer.

>>140336769

wait theyre THAT inexpensive now? seriously? i havent looked into prices since they originally launched at a few thousand iirc

>>140336357
FUCKING SCIENCE

>>140336562
true that...
but like i said im really looking forward to have 3d printers that can use many materials to print.
it would be so amazing if u can have them work almost on a atomic level so u can deconstruct broken things and use that material to build new stuff... but i think it might be a few more years for that. but i think the industry will go bat shit on it trying to have it outlawed !

>>140336848
Fusion 360, SketchUp, tinkercad: don't let (((them))) hold you back. The resources are available - better yourself.

>>140335491
mechanical engineering with a specialization in additive manufacturing here:

Because right now you can chose between two alternatives with regards to 3D printers:
1. Affordable but useless for anything serious besides models and occasional fixture. And even then plastic injection is 100x cheaper and faster
2. Insanely expensive (like 100000 and more) for a LENS machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_engineered_net_shaping which will actually produce parts of superior quality.

Also wtf has 3D printing to do with /pol/?

Unrelated to above: if you do decide to get a printer, I can recommend the "printrBot simple metal", is as good as a 20000 bucks semi-pro printer: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/3DPrinterShootout600PrintrbotVs20000UPrintSEPlus.aspx

>>140337017
I've been thinking about that too... So it's possible to use a 3D printer to make parts for another one. That's fine. But it could be a smaller, more accurate one. Same with a CNC machine. How miniscule could you realistically get by printing & milling progressively smaller & more precise parts?

>>140336848
Autocad itself is kinda crap. Take Inventor instead (available for free with Autodesks student community downloader) or Solidworks.

>>140336477
edm as in electric discharge manufacturing? No, thats not an additive technology at all, EDM is like welding/cutting and milling but with sparks under a fluid.

>>140336409
...
kind of was hoping the part about printing drugs would get some (You)s but oh well

>>140337065
Being able to produce something in your own home off the grid sounds like a /pol/ thing to me. Desktop SLA is making inroads but yeah agreed the quality of your standard FDM setup isn't going to match anything like that

Because I have a CNC laser. There's not much you can't make with a laser, some 9mm mdf and a sprinkling of i m a g i n a t i o n

When we can print jewniggerfaggot-killing robot this becomes relevant. Program it? No problem i already working in jewniggerfaggot recognition and targeting algorithm.

>>140337629

Weev pls go

>>140337212
i think we will have problems with getting it working on a way way smaller scale...
like u know guys with big fingers dont work so well with small stuff hehe.

but i keep my hopes up that we gonna get there one day... after all we are getting better and better everyday science wise

>>140335491
i'd print a nazi vs allies chess set. blondi would be the rook, hitler the king, ilse shee wolf the queen, himler would be the knight, etc.

>>140337371
Chemist here.
Your idea isn't so far-fetched.
Using a "printer" to charge various C, N, O, and H atoms to "print" them into pure crystalline drug compounds is theoretically possible.

>>140337212
also m80 check out the video i put up there ;)

>>140338485
Nice! Haven't seen that before - yeah that's an amazing addition to a desktop manufacturing setup; etching a PCB isn't the most difficult thing but can be a real pain for anything that needs a higher level of precision.

>>140337357
>welding/cutting and milling but with sparks under a fluid.

Yeah, manly stuff. Not hot gluing plastic strips together like a ninny at a craft fair.
DMLS would be better.

>>140338310
Do it. You don't need to own a printer to do the modelling; I'd print it.

>>140338890
yeah but its basically the machines u will need to build even more complex ones...
i see it as baby steps u know hehe

i dont know if u have ever herd about the webbot guy clif high ? but in one of his never interviews he was kinda hinting about the language he found and that these "printers" we have now will be building the super high tech stuff

>>140336217
No it's not.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/358-8683751-1023332?__mk_ja_JP=%E3%82%AB%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=3d+%E3%83%97%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC

A couple years ago a guy got arrested because he made a 3D printed gun that worked with conventional bullets. He got arrested primary because of the bullets.

>>140339112
*newer
(fucking kraut mind writing and translating on the fly lol)

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>>140335491
I 3D Print Memes professionally full-time and I am a well paid rich person.

>>140339112
Haven't read anything from there for a long time - will be checking it out for sure, thanks!
Yeah I'm not sure how many generations it would take to make something capable of creating something truly miniscule; I don't know enough about material properties at that level so need to do some reading & research

>>140338438

Whoa. Any papers on this stuff?

>>140339607
3d printed memes u say ?
got any samples ?

>>140339702
Don't know. Haven't had time to look. I don't have access to university journal libraries anymore so...
But from a physics + chemistry standing, the idea is sound.
Basically, you'd have your atoms compressed/suspended/stored in some way, which could be piped into a electromagnetic charging dock that can fuck around with electrons to get the various atoms to attain a certain charge, then fire em off, likely into an inert solution, where they can either form a covalent or ionic bond(depending on various attributes applied to the solution and/or atoms) with other atoms, slowly building compounds an atom at a time.

This level of tech is still a ways off. We'll likely need some quantum science breakthroughs first, to make it work. But yes, matter replicators could very well be a thing, at least in a simple form.

Metal printing is far more likely to come about before that. Think: 3D-printed guns made of metal. One day, printing an entire gun and the bullets to go with it, PLUS powder, and then printing up some meth or coke afterwards, might be a realistic thing. Government would have hell on their hands.

>>140340658
yeah but keep in mind ur equipment to move the atoms and shit needs to be super small... but once we are in the realm of nano stuff the laws of physics are cruel specially working with electronics!!!

i mean u see it at cpus we kinda reached whats possible with the material...thats why the chips arent getting much faster anymore and to get them faster u put one core after another to the cpu these days

>>140338969
if i do i'll post it here.

>>140340658
also printing multi materials like metals... u could have the metal reinforced from the inside by working into the metal other stuff... like metal reinforced concrete :)

>>140335491
>- why haven't you got yourself a 3D printer yet
So I can make some retard castle? Fuck off shill

>>140341091
Nanobots would be the greatest innovation in medicine ever. Basically, almost all disease could be eliminated. Regeneration/rejuvenation may also become possible, bringing near-immortality to life.

In theory.

>>140336919
for that low, it'll be an utter shit printer, though

>>140335491
I am currently in the market for a 4-5K printer
Any suggestions?

>>140341710
yeah but ur nano machines if electronic are under the same laws as ur cpu is or ur cellphone...

so all electronics will be having the same problems to get the heat away and stuff like that as ur other electronic stuff... does that make sense to u ?

i mean u need to have computing power on ur nano stuff so it knows where the heck do what right ? so ull have massive cooling problems the smaller u get...

>>140335637
why the fuck would you spend 10k on something you're not trying to monetize?

>>140335491
But can they print bitcoins?

>>140342158
Quantum computing at the nano scale would very likely produce no heat.
In fact, an idea for their energy supply is to have them use body heat to power their systems. Nanobots that is.

I'm getting one soon to help build fighting robots

Was thinking about buying one to make /tg/ miniatures.
They weren't that effective at the time.

>>140342625
you'll need an SLA or DLP printer for that
not a "traditional" 3d printer

Nice, but I'd prefer a miniaturised cnc mill

>>140342530
quantum computing happens at the coldest temperatures u can reach... i cant see how u do it on a nano scale???

have u actually seen how those quantum computers work ? they need to be cooled down on different stages... its such a huge work just to have these d wave thingys working and set up... i think i can remember hearing something like it takes almost a week to get it cooled and ready

>>140343156
That's NOW.
We're talking 50+ years into the future here.

>>140344157
sorry m80 i didnt wanted to sound rude... but its a real problem u have ether with heat or reaching the coldest temperatures u need...

here is a vid in short form that explains a bit about the cooling (i know that guy is annoying)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60OkanvToFI

>>140340658
this is fucking bullshit, this is not how chemistry at all works.
Firing ions into a solution will have them react with whatever they hit first (air or water mostly) not with whatever they should react with.
3D printing for molecules is centuries away, at least. (assuming anything more then proof-of-concept where it takes one molekule less than 8h on a force electron microscope to be assembled)

>>140335491
If i can finally print shirts that fucking fit me id be all in. So fucking tired of asshats making shirts that fit my chest(xl) but are shorter than a medium shirt. I blame the jews.

>>140337065
>Also wtf has 3D printing to do with /pol/?

cheap 3D printing is potentially disruptive tech that can cause a lot of political and legal problems
someone already made a shitty one-shot plastic gun that can fire a .22 cal bullet, and even that was enough to get the state department to try and ban the file

>>140336848

>He doesn't know about FreeCAD, TurboCAD, Viva! or Blender!

>>140344421
You're not understanding the idea here.
It's a lot more complicated than I made it sound. I was trying to speak more as a layman, since most people's grasp of chemistry is, well, zilcho.

The inert solution would be dynamic. Meaning it could be inert, charged, made acidic or alkaline, or made reductive/oxidative.
It's all theory right now. And as you said though not as far as you said, long off.
Eventually though, it's going to be impossible to to regulate drugs and weapons. That's a comfort. It's wonderful to consider that government itself might become impossible due to technology.

The sky is limitless.

>>140335491
It's the oculus rift of printers.
Fad, limited use, once you get one you think "why the fuck did i bought this shit".

>>140336048
Delrin lower receiver with a brass thread insert.

Buy the rest from palmetto state armory.

Done.

>>140345422
>printing delrin
even with a great printer, it's a fucking pity

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>>140337212
Fyi 3D printing got banned in the UK after someone printed an unlicenced butter knife

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Have a 3d printer myself, print everything from mobile covers, toothbrush holders to wallets.

People who say that 3d printers are useless have no imagination and should go back to their nursing homes were they belong.

Pic related, is a 3d printed case for my Pi personal backup server, I got the STL from thingverse.

>>140345649
imagine the horrors if that person would have printed a kitchen knife !!!

>>140345958
No one has seen a kitchen knife here since 1960, so we wouldn't be able to recognise it.

>>140345812
>Pic related, is a 3d printed case for my Pi personal backup server, I got the STL from thingverse.
Now compare the expense of money, time and power to the alternative: Buying it online. Such a case is probably .5$, less if you buy in bulk.

>>140346121
Where's the fun in that though?
Like he said, you have no imagination. You're a consumer.

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>>140335491
3D printers are unable to print living biological cells, so I'll buy one when they can make catgirls, or at least make the ears for any future GF.

>>140346299
keep in mind this was about the statement here >>140345812
>People who say that 3d printers are useless have no imagination
Right now 3D printer ARE useless, thats what I mean. Take a horse carriage: sure its pretty and fun to ride, but practically speaking it is useless too, except as fancy toy.

>>140346121

>Now compare the expense of money, time and power to the alternative: Buying it online. Such a case is probably .5$, less if you buy in bulk.

If I was buying -just- one case and only one type of case, then yes - but no, that pic was just one example.

eg - two weeks ago I printed out a techies wallet, the filament cost was about .20c AUD, I most likely saved $20-30, before that I needed hooks for hanging stuff, printing those out saved me about another 10$ and so on and forth.

>>140346089
honest question... what would happen if u had a handy man walking the street with a tool belt that carries a few screwdrivers and a cutter knife and a hammer ?

>>140346486
Being able to manufacture small plasic parts NOW rather than waiting 4 days for shipping or having to go to a specialty store and pay a premium is far from useless.

Shipping is a pain in the ass. Specialty stores rob you.

>>140335491
>/pol/ - why haven't you got yourself a 3D printer yet?
Because I have experience with operating one. Fucking pain in the ass even though it was expensive as shit.

>>140346299
he's right, though
printing what you can buy off the shelf for much cheaper, and with a much better quality (injection>>>fdm) is stupid

3d printers do make sense for custom parts you wouldn't find on the market, though

>>140348416
Or if you wanna cook up your own Bad Dragon without anyone getting wise...

Better off leaning silicone casting there however. THAT shit's hard to do for n00bs. I've tried casting silicone parts for various tools, gadgets, etc, like waterproof seals, and before I got the hang of it, it was the most frustrating thing I ever did.