Buying Land

Buttfuck Montana

>>140253903
alaska

>>140253980
>>140254090
United States is going to collapse tho.

>>140253903
Your entire fucking country is nothing but unpopulated land. Go buy some land faggot.

Same goes for your neighbour to the south, you got no excuse.

>>140253903
jackson county florida. look it up

>>140253903
Isn't Canadia mostly empty land? I mean ffs California has more people than Leafland. Just pick a spot already.

>>140254344
>>140254175
Yea, there's a lot of "empty" land in Canada, but with the rise in alt-left politics, I don't think the country is stable enough. We aren't at risk of getting invaded, but we are falling from within.

>>140254168
USA/Canada are pretty much the two best places to live and own land if there is a collapse.
>live in USA/Canada and there is a collapse
>live comfy offgrid life and protect what is yours with muh guns
meanwhile...
>live in rest of the world and there is a collapse
>either remains of government come claim your land or criminal gangs to and you can't do shit since all you got to defend yourself with is sticks and bicycle wheels

>>140254574
The alt-left politics you're talking about have already happened in all the rest of the world.

>>140253903
You want the southern hemisphere since fukushima keeps going..

So you are looking at few places 1) south america which unless your are of the dark skin you will be robbed. Read Mcafees story.

2)south africe here again you got to be the color

3) india, you will be rich as fuck but you can only lease land for 100 years, but if you are aryan and have grinder in your beard you will be treated as a god.

4) south east asia skin issue and fucking poor

5) Aussie land mmm milk and honey but visas are 6months at a time unless you shake up a misses.

6. New zealand who is looking for skilled workings that arent shitskin. mmmm Z land

if you dont care about fucked up babies and cancer just get to an elevation of 2000ft and rural so you can grow food and has cell service for jewtube.

>>140253903
If SHTF then property deeds mean fuck all in turn.

>>140253903
Arkansas, place hardly excists

>>140253903
Any red state, far enough out of the way of main cities, decent or adequate fresh water supplies nearby, farmland, mountains or forests if you need to get the fuck out of dodge or if they come knocking down doors.

I'd say anywhere east of the Rockies without more than a 2-3 hour drive time to the mountains or main forests there, or somewhere in the Midwest.

Stay away from the coasts, stay away from islands, stay away from massive rivers, fault lines, and tornado alley. Should narrow it down.

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Greenland. It's free, as long as you a as far away from your neighbour as possible.

>>140254974
When the collapse happens you will have wanted it to have begun with you having freedoms.

There is only one country in the world for that. And second best is Canada/New Zeeland or possibly Russia(for muh vast open spaces, implying someone will bother you if you live deep in Siberia or eastern Russia)

tons of land in western arizona for under 1k an acre

>>140253903
youre canadian, youre fucked.

>>140254687
Yea, I'd like to own an offgrid, sustainable farm/acreage where I can homeschool my kids, all that /pol/ stuff, my concern is that I would get my land taken out from under me by a leftist government.
>>140254974
You make a good point.. in a case of SHTF, I'd be left to defend myself however I could. Again, my concern is that I will have a leftist government try to take my land during a time of peace.

>>140253903
they are giving it away in the yukon
http://www.emr.gov.yk.ca/agriculture/agriculture_land.html

>>140255352
>my concern is that I would get my land taken out from under me by a leftist government.
That wont ever happen in the US. Or if it happens, it would have happened 100 years before that in any other country.

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>>140255245

>>140255124
2 comfy. being able to walk short distances everywhere surrounded by mountains. knowing all your neighbors. 2 comfy.

5 acres 5k septic 5k 5000gal water tanks 5k solar/wind set up 15k for 30k off grid living. all u need is an rv

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>>140255572

>>140255572
Been wanting to move to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan for a while now. Land is cheap as fuck up there too. However jobs are scarce.

>>140253903
>buy land
>pay taxes on it
>government is able to seize it at any time

What is even the point?

>>140255612
Why not have a well?

maynard from tool spoke the prophecy yet no one listened
>see ya down in arizona bay

>>140255532
the federal government also offers gibs for people to go live in the north for sovereignty reasons

if you are leaf who doesn't want to go to college and wants to be a farmer consider moving to the Yukon.

Will it be difficult? Yeah, but so was it for the people who originally immigrated here. Show the world that spirit stills lives in you by making a claim on the banks of the yukon river

>>140253903
I'm considering getting land here in Oklahoma. You can get 50+ acres an hour from a city for $100k, it's the only state in the union that had every county vote Trump, and literally everyone has guns so you making a range won't raise an eyebrow. Actually, owning land and not having a range would be weird here.

>>140256039
wells can go from 2k to 20k especially in a drought. besides anything bad happens ur waters gonna be fucked see hinkley. better to have your own tanks.

>>140253903
bulgaria. or anywhere else in eastern europe that is part of the EU

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>>140255536
U.S.A is Rome 2.0, how on earth can I plan for the future when the future is going down the toilet? Obviously doing something is better than doing nothing, but I am extremely reluctant to rely on any government to protect my rights, because as far as I'm concerned, even though natural rights may exist, a government can choose to ignore them any damn time they please.

>>140256092
That was from a Bill Hicks stand-up routine.

>>140253903
Just look for places with no internet.

>>140255807
You might want to looking into airponics, hydroponics, and basement food operations. Wind and solor will be great. Plenty of woods for heat. Just long ass 7month winters..

>>140256145
dont go to canada, its where were gonna send all our illegal mexicans. day of the leaf is coming. we will be invading canada

>>140256292
>USA is Rome 2.0

We haven't even entered the stage where we dismantle the republic and replace it with an emperor yet.

>>140256220
Yea but the tanks can run out. The water in a well is pretty hard to contaminate desu. Just dig it deep as fuck. They patch it with stuff to keep any toxins out now.

>>140256193
Don't you have to rebuild your home every other year after a tornado sweeps it away though?

>>140256495
again. good luck finding water for a well in mohave desert.

the only concern I have with moving to some rural area is how the hell are you suppose to find a wife in a rural area? How would you convince an urban women to follow you to go live in the middle of nowhere?

>>140256430
will your armies reach the yukon? from our persepctive it makes sense for us to physcially transport all our industry up north so we can counter attack you after you get bogged down in the winter

>>140256495
also tanks WILL run out hence everyone hawls water. its obscure for inlanders but desert rats and indians have done it for aeons.

New England, especially Connecticut. You can get a home where you feel like you live in the country, but you're not actually more than 15-20 minutes driving distance from a town/city and you have a lot of commute options for work. If you're on the far East side of the state, Boston and everywhere in between is a reasonable commute distance, and if you're on the West side of the state, you could even commute to NYC for work.

>>140256571
Women like that fairy tale shit..

if you have a good income and can convince her you're going to do a bunch of gay shit like homesteading and raising organic crops she'll be on board, trust me

>>140256474
Well how did the Jews did it? They've been kicked out of a shit ton of countries, but they always manage to acquire a lot of wealth, and the Rothschilds have held onto their wealth (and grown it) for 100s of years.

>>140256292
>but I am extremely reluctant to rely on any government to protect my rights,
then USA is your only hope

have fun relying on yourself when some criminal comes and want to take what is yours and you have nothing to defend yourself with(this is reality in rest of the world)

>>140256691
is that a viable threat canada? wede love to occupy you and enjoy those tastey oil reserves.

>>140255124
>greenland
>farming
>not knowing that the vikings who got there before the inuits died off for that same exact folly
Let's relive history and die anon!

>>140255596
I think you'd get depressed very fast.

whats the story with iceland? didnt they overthrow their government and make it the holy land a few years back?

>>140256710
the thing is that despite all the marxism I'm probably going to just have to brave it out to finish university even if I never use it (I already have an online business that can I use to pay my rent with minimal effort on my part, I could expand that and just farm for the lifestyle and side income). The issue is how mostl likely I would fine a wife at my university and then de-marxify her, but if she is also college educated I doubt she will want to just abandon urban living. Maybe if I she doesn't get any job offers cause she studied history or art or something?

>>140257244
>The issue is how mostl likely I would fine a wife at my university and then de-marxify her

Protip: You won't

Pump and dump. Fill them with your seed and ditch. Don't forget to you use a fake name.

>>140256710
> Not wanting to raise some organic crops with your agrifu
Pleb.
>>140256794
How the hell am I supposed to legally protect my property then? I'm very afraid that the leftists are going to get into power and start instituting forced reparations through financial and land appropriation.

>>140253903
Literally nowhere. Even in the US the government can forcibly remove you from your land, pay you a small compensation, and then bulldoze everything into a strip mall.

>>140256508
Insurance pays for a brand new house.

>>140256825
the alberta oil fields are kilometers inland, its not like you will just be able to surround toronto and then call it a day (but seriously if the united states invaded canada I would join up with the united states immediately because fuck daddy trudeau's charter, give me the constitution!)

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>>140253980
Beautiful place, too bad Montana and North Dakota are home to our nuclear missile silos.

Nevada was a great place to live but too many californians are moving here. Idaho or Eastern Oregon seem nice.

>>140257094
What is Hydro culture?
Not talking about going Uber Paleo anarchist, just being comfy alone, hunting ice bears and inuit

>>140257397
> Sorting myself out
> Want to sacrifice and invest
> Social and legal environment is making me reluctant to do so
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>140253903
Pick a spot
Drive an hour in each cardinal direction
See any niggers?
Now you know

Piscataquis County in Maine.

>>140257387
>I'm very afraid that the leftists are going to get into power and start instituting forced reparations through financial and land appropriation.
You've been on /pol/ for too long.

Also dunno about your fucking thought process
>live in freedom now and PERHAPS in the future someone will come take your land
vs
>live not in freedom now and PERHAPS(already much more likely anywhere else in the world) in the future someone will come take your land

>>140257522
lol anon, youre now /ourguy/ on the inside. why march we got planes. you distract them w tranny right uprising and well invade

>>140256779
>Well how did the Jews did it?
Lying, Cheating and Stealing.

>>140257503
>comfy offgrid life
>paying for insurance
pick one

>>140253903
Former CSA in rural areas.

Yanks will be shot on sight

>>140257710
You are a fucking idiot if you don't have home insurance in hurricane valley.

>>140256092
Fuck you. Gaynard from (angsty 90's metal band) is a piece of shit who gets the rope, too.

>>140253903

global elites buy massive amounts of lands in new zealand but it's very expensive.

>>140257868
are these people paying cash for their homes? i dont know a single lender who will allow u not to have insurance

>>140257634
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/true-north/2014/oct/21/the-indigenous-land-rights-ruling-that-could-transform-canada
It's already happening, Sven. This country is willing to hand over land that the natives think is owed to them. Why the hell would I buy land if it can get taken from me without my consent?

>>140258186
Archived that for you
https://unvis.it/theguardian.com/environment/true-north/2014/oct/21/the-indigenous-land-rights-ruling-that-could-transform-canada

>>140257957
>be anon
>buy land in new zealand because you anticipate collapse caused by elites
>tfw end up being neighbors with soros family

>>140257094
Well vikings dont have our technology....

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>>140255124

>that house design

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>>140254090
Fuck off. We're full.

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>>140258240

Why would you need to buy land in event of collapse? Just take it from some cuck, because that's what they'll do to you.

>/pol/ doesn't believe criminals respect gun bans
>/pol/ believes criminals respect land deeds

If no collapse, buying land is retarded, eminant domain + annual property tax. If collapse, buying land is retarded, deeds will be toilet paper.

>>140256039
best to have both, a well is pretty cheap to have drilled

>>140253903

>Leaf flag.

Buy land in New Brunswick.

>>140258497
not in the desert when bedrock is 20 feet down

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>>140258359
why not build comfy cabin here and have 8 qt white children to homeschool and live off a little family farming and hunting and a few goats/chicken?

>>140253903
here

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Cerrillos_NM/type-land/price-na-250000/acre-10/radius-20

>>140258383
Except that you have to pay property tax regardless, burger. No idea what to do about eminant domain though. In case of a collapse, malevolent individuals can be repulsed by well-organized tribes.

>>140253903
maine. lots of clean air, best water in country, best coastline in country, best combo of cold winters for those of us who are not poorfags and can afford winter sport, excellent summers for swimming and hiking. 98 percent white.

>>140254574
So? They are not going for you from the log cabin in the middle of the forest.

>>140258809

Denmark Maine is a great place. Close enough to get cheap booze from North Conway, NH but still in the beautiful state of Maine.

I can see why you guys are Mainiacs.

>>140258383
its a lot easier to defend land you have already had the oppotunity to build a house on and farm and have all your guns as well as a militia set up with your neighbours than it is to be a urban dweller who moves out to search for land after the collapse.

if you are far enough away from the urban centers your life might not change at all because everybody who lives near you also owns their own land. After the roman empire collapse certain parts of the western empire just went on as if nothing happened.

The point of buying land is so that when the collapse does happen, you are already settled somewhere far away from where all the chaos will occur, instead of trying to flee it when it happens.

Its implied that you intend to make a living in that rural area for your entire life if the collapse does not happen.

>>140258980
oh dude its the best, we have it made up here its literally a different country. the filth that spreads across america ends in cumberland county, the rest of maine is pure as can be. something like 97% forest

>>140258877
Breh, the left want to eradicate white men in this country. I don't trust those cocksuckers for a second, but it sounds like my only hope is to buy land and be ready to defend it at all cost, as >>140259000 pointed out.

Wouldn't a collapse mean a return to local economies only? So basically agriculture + hunting/trapping? North America is very far removed from trade routes that don't involve modern boats and planes etc.

Am I safe in Ohio guys? There's flat farmland everywhere and when shtf most of the cities will become nearly empty because all the heroin addicts will die off. Should I be worried about nukes or any military happenings?

Speaking of land, how much could I get in the states for 3.75 million?

>>140258614
There is on Norway some good place with internet and dont cucked? Me and my gf want move to north and make many kids.

>>140259311
The return to the land that people are proposing in this thread is quite literally Blood and Soil. One of Hitler's chief complaint was that german farmers were being forced off their land by (((bankers))) and wanted them to return to be in control of their own soil instead of being forced into urban areas.

>>140259584
Why would you want to move away from Poland to do that?

Also wouldn't having tons of children pretty much mean you could live off government gibs since they pay you for that?

You could be living a comfy offgrid life in Poland instead?

But yeah there is probably alot of places in Norway for that, also you can homeschool which you can't in Sweden.

>>140259444
I can get you a quote for 50k paypal

>>140259999
>also you can homeschool which you can't in Sweden
jesus. how dystopian is sweden? I thought the bill allowing the government to remove children whose parents don't let them transition genders was bad

>>140256430
>day of the leaf

???

>>140259999
I like winters lol so some countries on north will better but idk yet, if EU try put here refugees i go on north for sure like to Iceland and make from this place Polish colony.

>>140260312
urg. brain fart
* RAKE RAKE RAKE

>>140256474
What the fuck do you think Obama was? What do you think Trump IS? Presidents of late have been invading countries via executive order. People voted for Trump because he is perceived as "strong". People are just itching for am emperor

>>140259863
Yes, Blood and Soil, but my family's history is in Britain. If the current political situation is any indicator, the left will not be satisfied until white people are forced out of North America, or all their land and wealth handed over to lesser races, so my continued existence in this country is precarious.

>>140254900
>New zealand who is looking for skilled workings that arent shitskin. mmmm Z land
NZ already spiked due to silicon valley buying up all the real estate in the past decade. you can't afford NZ.

>>140260199
>In 2009 a child called Domenic Johansson was taken from his parents (Christer Johansson, a Swedish citizen, and Annie Johansson, a native of India) while they were on board Turkish Air Flight 990, waiting for departure to the mother's home country India.[94] Domenic was taken into custody by the Swedish police due to reports of the child being homeschooled.
>In June 2012 the Gotland district court ruled that the Johanssons should retain their parental rights over Domenic, which was later overturned by the appeals court.
>>140260399
Can't do much farming there though and in Iceland homeschooling is illegal too.

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Binland obviously

>>140261306
I dont need farming also i dont let kids only learn from school.

>>140261001
I wonder how they all plan on getting there if there is a collapse though, don't think they're living there now. Are they gonna jump on the last flight there before it all goes under?

>>140261306
Holy... how are you not on a gorillion watchlists for posting on /pol/? I mean, you probably are, but I'm impressed that they haven't broken down your door yet.

Broader question would be how to manage risk in an uncertain world. How do major companies and organizations manage?

>>140254574
Then what do you want? You said the US is unstable too?

>>140262168
Well the alt-left is certainly giving me some unease. Nothing is ever certain, but I would like to know what I can do to reduce my risk

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>>140258614
I found a "comfy cabin " the other day.

>>140253903
Buying land is of no use if it won't feed you. Look for rural agricultural areas at least 50 miles from any urban centers and outside of fallout patterns near small towns of under 2,000 people. Look closely at the type of irrigation on prospective land purchases. If it's in pivots or wheel lines it's no good as an EMP will end powered irrigation long enough for widespread famine. Dry land farming is unreliable, but if you're frugal and willing to work really really hard, you'll make it. Areas with flood irrigation from water impoundments (reservoirs), canal systems, and regulated water delivery are best. Remember water rights are "first in time, first in line" in the US. If you have a significant canal on your place you can generate electricity from it for perhaps 6 months of the year. You'll need a fuck ton of money to go all solar/wind/generator. Plan on being culture shocked by the "backward" types you're going to encounter. Rural people don't breed for looks, they breed for reliability, work habits, and strong children to help out on the farm. Think about access to wood or coal nearby for heat. Natural gas, propane, fuel oil, and electricity put you in a position of dependence. If you buy arable/irrigated ground on the sage steppe, you'll need to plant a woodlot first thing. You won't have a sustainable fuel wood crop for perhaps 6-8 years for your fastest growing trees. Plant fast growers like hybrid poplar, fast growing semi dwarf fruit trees, and standard fruit trees immediately. The fruit trees will both feed and heat you. If you're smart, you'll invest in power equipment that can be scaled for horse drawn power in a pinch. Either that or you'd better have a hell of a strong back.

>>140253903
>Literally any rural farming state, pick something near a small town for services
>Or above, but northern Canada

>>140264205
Thanks, senpai. We're all fucked, aren't we?

>>140253903
Again, you're going to need a fuck ton of money. The first thing you need is a workshop full of hand tools and the skills to use them. You can always use power tools, but get your hand tools first. Buy the best even if you can't afford them. If you're not a gardener, arborist, wood worker, mechanic, laborer, electrician, fabricator, welder, carpenter, irrigator, trapper, hunter, rancher, veterinarian and magician you're pretty much condemned to a 10-15 year learning curve for basic survival. A successful farmer/rancher is all of the above. You might be rich enough to hire it done now, but when the SHTF you will have only yourself and your family. You're going to need to integrate into the community, because you're going to need friendly neighbors sooner than later. Don't borrow shit more than once. If you need it twice, buy it. If you have serious money, don't show it off, us poor people hate that. Get used to the idea of community service of some kind and it had better be sincere or people will see through you like saran wrap. Actually one of the hardest things is going to be cultural if you're from the city. Most who try what you think you want to do last maybe a year. About 90% of the neighboring farms here have changed hands in the last 40 years. They come, they wimp, they leave. That's good for those that stay because we pick their bones, the new owners bring in fresh money to spend on improvements and good shit we can pick up at their farm sale when they wimp. Why do you think I'm encouraging you? Kek.

>>140253903
>I need to know where I can buy land where I don't have to fear people showing up and demanding reparations or legal appropriation.

The answer is nowhere. You only rent land, never own it. There are no safe spaces.

>>140265952
Theres only a 15 year learning curve when you are a dumb 90 IQ rural retard

>>140253903
what province are you in ?

>>140266178
I'd believe there's a fairly significant learning curve. Details can get sorted out later. The important question is: how much time do we have?
>>140265952
Good advice re: hand tools and self-reliance. How far do people push the self-reliance idea? Are we talking about mining ore to make into iron to smith your own metal plows, or do you trade a certain amount? In a SHTF scenario, it won't be much good to have expensive technology that can't easily be replaced.
>>140266323
AB
>>140265968
Fug. :DDDDD

>>140256571
just hire a nigger for some bucks on craigslist, that he will attack 2-3 times your wife -> problem solved


>>140257957
ye i'm searching atm too for rescue places (cause ger will be cucked soon)
i always came to conclusion that NZ is one of the best between technology, good life, progress. But as you said i think it is very expensive. I heard the job market is so hard, even good educated people just get shitty jobs there.
South America could be a possibility for the poor. Paraguay for example, there are some Germans.

>>140265785
>Thanks, senpai. We're all fucked, aren't we?
No, you're not. Just understand that what you are proposing isn't easy or cheap. You're not "just" moving, you're changing everything. Everything from the way you think, dress, behave, work, study, eat, sleep, and socialize. As for the ass hat who thinks rural "retards" have 90 IQ's, most of my neighbors have several degrees and their kids are college educated. Many of the kids move away after school and return home to take over the place when the parents near retirement. And if you don't think it will take you 15 years to become skilled in everything I listed above you are hopelessly arrogant. I did just what you want to do 40 years ago with $7K borrowed money and I had most of the listed skills. I had to learn row crop farming and veterinary skills, but I had the rest. Right now I'm where I though I'd be in 1985, so yeah, maybe I am a "rural retard" who just made it work with 40 years of back breaking work, double shifts, midnight calving, chopping water for cows in winter, and losing everything to drought about every 7 years. But, ass hat, I'm still here, and I have no debt, land, water rights, wells, equipment, livestock, a farm shop, a machine shop, a cabinet shop, a line of equipment, guns up the ass, a reloading setup that rivals Lake City, friends, community, based kids, grandkids, and great grandkids. What the fuck do you have there in your mothers basement?

>>140266859
>How far do people push the self-reliance idea? Are we talking about mining ore to make into iron to smith your own metal plows, or do you trade a certain amount?
You need to cultivate your own self reliance by learning and practicing the skills mentioned. And no, I'm not chipping arrowheads (despite knowing how) or smelting my own iron. If you're lucky you can find a run down place with a lot of old equipment on it. That's treasure. It also shortens the time it will take you to have "assets". The most valuable thing you have are your skills, particularly if your neighbors need them. When I mention community, I mean it, it's crucial. You might need to swap food for feed, welding for seed, blacksmithing for alcohol, etc. >how much time do we have?
Who the fuck knows. I got out of the city in 1968 thinking I'd see a mushroom cloud in my rear view mirror and it hasn't happened yet. But you know what? Though I sacrificed a lot of earning potential, left family behind, and made a shit ton of mistakes, I wouldn't trade it for anything. I. Don't. Worry. About. Anything. Anymore. Put a price tag on that.

>>140253903
This thread is:
http://archive.is/UGtRS
Buying Land

>>140267941
Hmm. What about the Jews? They have managed to survive for 1000s of years spread out across the globe, and although I think they are (extremely) distasteful, they are not stupid. How would you have done with a larger amount of capital? What about buying the land renting it out to some young, white farmers and working out some deal? I don't have the desire to be a farmer (producing food for other people) I simply want enough land and ability to feed myself and my family and the

>>140259444
Depends on the state. Get allodial title in Nevada and you are set and free of all government taxes.

>>140257560
>Idaho or Eastern Oregon seem nice.
Oregon and Washington are states that are profoundly rural and conservative that are dominated by a few west coast counties that are liberal as shit, anti gun, pro tax, and have spent the states into foreclosure with gibmedat unions and minorities. Idaho, western MT, Wyoming, Utah, in that order. It's called the Redoubt, look it up.

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https://definitions.uslegal.com/a/allodial-title/

If you guys are actually fucking serious about land. Look into link provided. No taxes, no government hook-ups. It is your land and no one can take it from you. Only problem is, you will need an heir. Divorce is extremely difficult since the land is held under a special title. You have to sell in cash only, or transfer ownership threw a lawyer specialized in it, Or you can donate it to the government.

>>140255572
Maine looks low key cozy as fuck.

>>140256702
fuck off, property taxes in Connecticut are unreasonable

>>140258614
because that would be miserable. I actually live in a very rural area, and you fucks romanticize that life so much. It's not that great. you see the same people everyday, and mostly do the same shit.

>>140267941
You sound bitter as fuck for wasting your life on becoming a redneck.

>>140258608
>not in the desert when bedrock is 20 feet down
Sounds like Deschutes county checking in. 700' to water, sheesh.

If anything, this thread has shown me that buying land is an illusion. Any piece of land can be taken at will by the government, and there's nothing we can do about it.

>>140259444
>Speaking of land, how much could I get in the states for 3.75 million?
Start here: http://www.capitalpress.com/

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>>140253903
I know the Amish are buying in Upstate New York

>237 acres Farm in Genesee NY Could be Organic

>$298,900 237 Acres
>5 beds 1 Bathroom, 1 ½ Bathroom 2104 Sq.Ft.

http://www.landsofamerica.com/property/1671-Keller-Road-Portville-New-York-14770/4300233

Wyoming, Alaska, Montana, Maine, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Idaho, All of Eastern Europe, Iceland, Tasmania, Singapore, Switzerland. If you want to carve out your own utopia, Alaska and Russia are ideal candidates as they will sometimes literally pay you to live there.

>>140271700
"rights" are granted by governments, anon. Whoever has the power of physical force makes the rules. This is why you gun up. Are you new or something?

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>>140255572
dunno what part of the black blob area i'll live in but its safe.

>>140271700
DIP SHIT
ALLODIAL TITLE
LOOK IT UP.

>>140272115
I knew that cognitively, but I'm just starting to appreciate it.
>>140272385
And then someone comes along with a bigger gun than you and takes it by force. What's your point?

>>140253980

This, if you can stand the winters.

>>140272115
>"rights" are granted by governments
Whatever the government can give, the government can take away. Those are not rights, those are privileges.

http://www.interstice.com/~drewes/allodial.html

>>140272460
Then buy a fucking tank, your land, your rules. You can kill someone and bury them.there and the cops couldn't shit.

>>140253903
Imma real estate agent. Ama

>>140270020
>I don't have the desire to be a farmer (producing food for other people) I simply want enough land and ability to feed myself and my family
You have to be able to produce a surplus of (((something))) to trade for the things you can't produce yourself. You can't survive on gardening alone, though it is the foundation.
>How would you have done with a larger amount of capital?
It would have saved me decades of work because I would have bought an existing place rather than develop a place from sagebrush and cheatgrass. When you buy a place you get much more than a house. You get a well, septic, power lines, fences, shops, barns, roads, trees, and fields. I didn't have that luxury, so I substituted time and work, lot's of both. I didn't do it for me, I have 4 kids and an extended family here now. 40 years ago I had a pregnant wife, two kids and a dog. I didn't do it for myself, I did it for them. Now we're married into the community, all have college educations, mad skills, property, and the most valuable thing of all, integrity.
>What about the Jews?
Hahahahaha, fuck the jews, we've got MORMONS!

>>140272756
> missing the point entirely
I'm not suggesting that we shouldn't try to defend ourselves, but we need to realize that when it comes right down to it, if you can't fight off your attackers, your land and hard work is gone.
>>140272885
What can I do to ensure that land/wealth stays in my family for generations?
>>140273104
Interesting.. my plan was to work and save up for a bit so that I could buy a piece of property.

>>140271414
>You sound bitter as fuck for wasting your life on becoming a redneck.
See: >>140269296
See: >>140273104
Nope, not bitter. And around here, you have to earn the right to be a redneck. It's a compliment. If you're not a redneck, you're not shit.

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>>140253903
Saskatchewan bro
>Majority white
>If the feather indians get uppity the farmers shoot them
>Openly say nigger in the largest cities
>Guns
>Hot women
>Majority Christian
>Churches are expanding here
>Sort of like Montana, but flatter and colder in the winter
>Just over a million people live in 651,036 square kilometres
Pic Related, its field of rape

>>140272885
I want to start a real estate agency in Nepal in like half a yea time. I have no prior knowledge of anything. Where should I start and what could go wrong? Also I am serious and ask me anything means ask me anything.

>>140272613
Yep. That's why I put "rights" in quotations.

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>>140265952
>15 years

I don't mean to come off as some arrogant shit but i'm 18 and have been working on my family's poverty farm for about three years now - and not consistently as I have school work to do -just when things get hectic like when it's silage and haymaking time and when we're lambing. and t b h at this point i could take over the farm and probably run it a lot more efficiently- not to put down my family it's just they're getting old and do everything the hardest possible way and bodge everything.

the only thing you need is very good work ethic, basically you need to love working to a point where everyone around you thinks you're losing your mind - I really cannot stress how much work there is
also if you have any intelligence about you you'll most likely end up being in charge if you keep working hard.
and then you'll own a huge farm with an army of tractor driving poles.
that's what i'm probably gonna do after i've gone and got my degree and made a bit of money, that's the plan anyway

>>140253903
some place cold where nig nogs won't wanna go

>>140253903
anywhere that has snow

snow had serveral benefits that guarantee you get your moneys worth

>niggers always wear jackets even when its 20degrees C
>snow is fucking based and is in fact, despite what the media will tell you, the real "temperate climate"
>if the snow happens to melt for some reason, any nigger in the area will immidiately drown and your property will retain its value

Kentucky. Anti Agenda21, pro machine gun, gas, coal, game animals, rivers, timber, and cheap.

http://www.landwatch.com/Magoffin-County-Kentucky-Farms-and-Ranches-for-sale/pid/2863636

>>140273773
>field of rape
delicious rape

>>140274112
I love snow

>>140274016
Detroit gets cold af. But it's full of em.

>>140274297
its the fucking best, i should have been born ice nigger or glacier or some shit, snow is the fucking shit

>>140253903
Wisconsin

>>140253903
rural USA or australia, canada maybe but more likely some abo will steal it.

>>140273773
That's all great, my main thing I'm mulling over is how to protect any land from being forcefully taken, and I'm concluding that it is impossible. I guess that's part of the reason that the Jews never bothered to settle down anywhere, wealth is easier to move around when it's liquid.

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Since youre already a Canadian faggot, you should go for land in UP michigan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Peninsula_of_Michigan#Culture

>Early settlers included multiple waves of people from Nordic countries, and people of Finnish ancestry make up 16% of the peninsula's population; the UP is home to the highest concentration of Finns outside Europe and the only counties of the United States where a plurality of residents claim Finnish ancestry.Other sizable ethnic communities in the Upper Peninsula include French-Canadian, German, Cornish, Italian, and Ojibwe ancestry.....Today, the Upper Peninsula is home to 299,184 people—only about 3% of the state's population— living in almost one-third of the state's land area.

>>140273965
Good on ya' Lad. You grasp the most important aspect of life. You've got to love to work. It looks like insanity to lazy proles but it's the key to happiness. Lambing is not fun, but it is work you can learn to love. I have had to work a full time job or more and develop my lands at the same time. That's 90-100 hrs a week for 40 years. My mates would ask, what are you going to do this weekend? When I told the what I HAD to do, they thought I was nuts. Hell, now I don't even want to go anywhere, I live where I'd vacation if I had a chance. Though today it's 104F, smokey as hell and I still have to change water tonight. I've already had my nap.

>buying land
Being a nomad is the ultimate red pill.

>>140253903
Dude just buy a lot up north and don't be such a drama queen. Move to AB if you want to be among normal right wing people.

>>140256571
>How would you convince an urban women to follow you to go live in the middle of nowhere?

now this is leafposting

>>140253903
I've got land in south-east sask. Been in our family for longer then Canada has existed. It's a nice place to farm. There's an indian reserve nearby by the mounties run them off if they ever enter town.
There's no "alt-left" shit but I'd say it's prob more liberal/socalist then you might want or expect. Nobody is gonna demand shit or bring the law into anything. But if someone has a flat tire and you just drive past him without offering to help everyone in the town is gonna know about it by next coffee row. If someone needs help, and you can help, you're expected to offer. Even though the person who needs the help will normally tell you he's got it, but thanks.

>>140275256
Tell me more. I'm starting to think that the Jews were on to something with their portable skills.

>>140276084

You gain intelligence and adaptability but you lose identity and start having more neuroses about it.
Overall, I would recommend it.

t. Russian Jew

>>140271700
Perhaps it is better to buy land and weapons.

>>140275136
cheers ahaha from your posts you sound exactly like my dad, you must be a similar age how did you even find this website?

>>140274377
The fires from the Crack Pipes and Arsons keep them warm.

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>>140274112
>anywhere that has snow
Couldn't agree more. Once in a while you can get too much of a good thing though.

>>140257560
This is a p dumb map. Why are the missile silos dots instead of purple triangles? ICBM silos are target priority #1 in a nuclear exchange, along with air- and sub-bases

>>140276969
Do you live in Idaho anon? My mom has property up in N Idaho and she's basically got her dream cabin now. It looks super comfy and I aspire to do that exact thing.

>>140276379
Of course, but let's not be too optimistic.

>>140276670
>how did you even find this website?
I have spent my life fighting communism/fascism/liberalism/progressivism/socialism and every other anti freedom ism there is. I was a John Bircher before it was cool. One would have to live under a rock to have not heard of you anon's. This /pol/ is the pointy end of the spear in defending everything I hold dear and believe in. I've been doing this and a lot more for a long time.

>>140255111
Why should I avoid the coast? If it's a relatively unpopulated area that is.
I'm talking 10 to 30 miles away inside the woods.

>>140277038
Missile silos are targeted, but it's not a guarantee to destroy the silos before they're launched. post nuclear strike is where the actual tactics come in and when you rely on conventional forces assuming your armies still stand. To do this effectively you need to wipe out or cripple enemy airpower and industrial support hence targeting air bases and the like.

>>140277755
>Why should I avoid the coast?
Cascadia subduction zone, San Andreas fault. Libs, spics, blacks.

>>140277749
Lol. /pol/ is the memetic warfare arm where ideas become distilled and mass produced. /pol/ is far from the philosophical and ideological base

>>140253980
Fuck off we're full

>>140277540
>Do you live in Idaho anon?
Now how "anon" do I want to be? I have Lot's of family in Idaho, Washington, and Oregon, how's that?

>>140278350
Whatever. Take off your tin hat. I grew up in Spokane and am currently away due to work. PNW is the greatest.

>>140278127
>/pol/ is far from the philosophical and ideological base
The "real" /pol/, those that engage in substantive thought, are on balance more closely aligned with my values than anyone this side of Steve Bannon.
>/pol/ is the memetic warfare arm where ideas become distilled and mass produced.
Yes, yes it is. Weaponized autism. Compared to the comments sections of "news" sites this place is the most effective forum for influencing opinion in the world right now. Don't waste it.

>>140278020
Me and my gf have a place on the east coast that is about 65% white on the county level.

There are a fair bit more blacks in our area though, but we can blow the bridges on either side of our road early on.

If we tie the knot we're ganna install a bunker and prepare for the worst. Being preppers and all.

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>>140257560
>. Idaho or Eastern Oregon seem nice.

If I were to one day drop everything and buy some land in Yukon or Nunavut would I be able to get good internet somehow?

>>140276350
RVs are not built for long term living, they're built for a couple of weekends a year. They're poorly insulated, expensive as fuck to repair, and their toilets/showers are inadequate. Most of them are useless off paved roads. Most of them require gas, diesel or propane for the generator, and the batteries need replacing faster the more you use them. You'd need to carry insurance on them, they're robbery targets, and you have to keep the registration current. They can actually be more expensive than renting out an apartment.
Living in an RV sounds comfy, but it's not.

>>140253903
Tasmania

>>140279360
>but we can blow the bridges on either side of our road early on.
Out Fucking Standing! Part of our contingency plan as well. Get all the information you need on that subject at a gun show, not online. It'll get you (((noticed))).

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>>140271365
I do the same shit and see the same people everyday living the city life

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>>140253903
>Alright faggots, where is a safe place to buy land in the 21st century? With antifa and BLM and other alt-left groups running around, I need to know where I can buy land where I don't have to fear people showing up and demanding reparations or legal appropriation.

>>140279444
>>. Idaho or Eastern Oregon seem nice.
Go with "dog shit". Hillbilly's got nothing for sale and won't give you the time of day for 3 generations. I know.

There's that town in Kansas that's offering free land if you build a house on it and live there for a few years, but I want to live in the middle of nowhere with my guns.
What's best state for buying land and shooting guns?

>>140279723
Most of our base prep will come online in the next 5 years. We're hoping we'll have atleast 10 to get everything squared away. Thanks for the tip.

>>140271365
Sounds great to me.

>>140280228
>Kansas that's offering free
There are a lot of dying towns where you can get a old house for $14,000. Sometimes less if you pay the tax bill.

Chile

>>140280439
That doesn't sound like a terrible gig if you can find work. I moved from a poor job market so I really don't want go to another without a plan. Some kind of work-from-home would be the comfiest.

>>140264201
Did you find a notebook there?

https://www.jerkersearcher.com/sffaudio_pdfs/NotebookFoundInADesertedHouseByRobertBloch.pdf

>>140281040
>if you can find work.
That's the thing. Seems like Walmart killed a lot of support economy and retail in these small towns. I guess you could always work for Walmart and take food stamps.

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>>140253903

>buying land
>not just moving to Mongolia and staking your own patch of steppe with a yurt and a horse

>>140275967

That's just common decency desu.
I live in a large city and I've had a flat battery and had to ask 20+ FAGGOTS before a decent human being gave me a jump, EVEN THOUGH I HAD MY OWN FUCKING CABLES.

I wouldn't ever expect a total stranger to stop if they see me changing a tire, but if it was someone I knew? Yes I would - even if I'd just tell them not to worry.

>>140281901
That shit is why their cities are all fucked up. But I thought that privilege was limited to just Mongolians. Are you saying anyone can do that?

>>140282187
Yeah, but common decency is more liberal/socialist then most people who live in big cities are used to.

>>140283715

>implying if you show up on the steppe with no papers and you join the locals anyone will care who you are or where you're from

>>140278350
What's gud CR? Recognize you from xenoland

>>140281901
Looks comfy

>>140273773
Land is expensive here man. We're in a bit of a job shortage.Taxes aren't any help either.

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>>140253903
your already in Canada you can get crown land for free dumb ass you just have to settle it.

>>140256193
>shit weather
>shit economy
>shit people
>apocalyptic levels of insects in the summer
>crumbling infrastructure

But hey, it sure is cheap!! There are a few pockets of natural beauty, but it's mostly ugly cities and farmland.

Fuck that shithole, I grew up there, left when I was 23 and never looked back. If it weren't for family still there I'd have zero reasons to ever even visit.

>>140281789
That's always the thing. I spent 8 years out of trade school trying to find a job back home before I moved up here. It sucks. I don't want that again.

>>140271414
Only a damn your-a peon would think that sounds, bitter. You fuckers, I swear.
t.fellow redneck and a neo-confederate