Planes or no planes? How the fuck would the have the time and

https://youtu.be/3UvPWny_PBc

https://youtu.be/MSlIFXw3EGg

>>140252817
It was planes, my father (RIP) saw those planes smack into those towers from Newark from the other side of the hudson. Unless he was in on it as well.

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>>140253002
Nonsense. Flimsy aluminium wing tips could not just cut through structural steel like that.

>>140253349
The only other theory that KINDA makes this plausible is use of a hologram, but that's really far fetched.

>>140252817
The middle of a technologically advanced city with a major tourist attraction is bound to have people with cameras around, but fuck common sense and blame joos right?

>>140253558
Aluminum flying at 600 mph will cut through just about anything.

It was planes, my father (RIP) saw those planes smack into those towers from Newark from the other side of the hudson. Unless he was in on it as well.

>>140253663
Well that's the thing. I can't see how it could have been done with video manipulation, there's too many people with video camers for that to work. Too high chance of a video slipping that would prove the fakery.

So either they had to be planes, or something built to look like those specific planes. But I've seen a lot of people focusing on this "no planes" theory which seems really far fetched to me.

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>>140252817
NO PLANES NO PLANES NO PLANES

https://vid.me/HlVQF

>>140252817
Oh course there were planes, dummy. If you want to know what happened, google "flight termination systems" "Dov Zakeim" and the "Black Eagle Trust Fund." The planes were flown like drones by remote and the whole thing was a money laundering operation. There were no space beams or mini-nukes or holograms, those theories are a product of a combination of low IQ and paranoid schizophrenia.

It was planes, my government (RIP) flew those planes smack into those towers from Newark from the other side of the hudson. They were in on it.

>>140252817
It was planes, my father (RIP) saw those planes smack into those towers from Newark from the other side of the hudson. Unless he was in on it as well.

>>140252817
The fuck are you on about?
Pentagon was hit with a missile

twin towers hit by planes

real planes, real passengers.
planned by the jews in the USA.

larry silverstein is satan himself.

>>140253558
You're fucking stupid. I was sitting here trying to come up with something more advanced to describe you, but why bother. You're just straight up stupid as shit, so why not just cut to the chase.

>>140253902
People have been posting this a lot, but it's just a screenshot, it doesn't prove anything at all. Worthless.

>>140253968
I'm not posing there were no planes, I'm just starting a discussion. I also find the no planes theory weird, but I do admit that some of the videos of plane hitting the second tower look really weird.

I guess the main focus should be the pentagon and buulding 7, and the twin towers should be ignored, as the smoke screen that they were.

>>140252817

Study - Rare Amateur 9 11 Footage with audio NOT SHOWN ON TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8FfcuvM3gs

>>140253737
this
F=ma

/pol/ makes based 9/11 thread
>>140251644

>10m later
Jews make bullshit 9/11 thread
>>140252817

Everytime

>>140254253
IT WAS MUH NUKES!!!!

>>140253558
Fried chicken could cut through steel if it's moving fast enough.

>>140254629
WE WUZ MICRONUKES

>>140253002
Now explain how WTC building 7 fell.
Never hit, fell in it's own footprint.

>>140254827
https://youtu.be/fT4lDU-QLUY

>>140254243
THE VIDEO

>>140254969
https://youtu.be/fIAK6PAeyn8

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>>140253558
When will the MUH MOFUGGEN INDESTRUCTIBLE STEEL BEAMS meme end?

>>140254969
They're designed to fall in their own footprint

It was damaged by the debris of the other tower(s)

>>140255146
Some of them look legit cut at an angle.
Finding the passports was also very fucky.

how much longer is the CIA going to try to push this no planes stuff?

>>140254629
No it couldn't.

>>140254969
https://youtu.be/nWs7VUI4gPI

>>140255562
>The Young Turks
Fixed to prevent views

https://hooktube.com/nWs7VUI4gPI

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>>140253737
And yet a bird does this.

The no planes theory is so stupid.

What's easier? Faking planes and disappearing hundreds of people and four planes, or training guys how to hijack planes and run them into shit?
Of course there were planes.

>>140255749
The radome is usually not aluminum.

>>140254253
"To find the folks who committed this act." GWB

Very telling. The people who did were already dead from flying the planes into buildings.
He was setting everyone up for the pre-planned War on Terror.

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>>140255764
>training guys how to hijack planes
you mean empty, remote-controlled, auto-piloted planes

>>140253737
>Aluminum
The lightest metal used for mass production?
Nope. This wasn't boiler plate steel.

>>140255844
So a wing wouldn't suffer any damage? From flesh? You sure?

>>140255146
>When will the MUH MOFUGGEN INDESTRUCTIBLE STEEL BEAMS meme end?
you don't need MOFUGGEN INDESTRUCTIBLE STEEL BEAMS, all you have to do is point at WTC 7, which was NOT hit by a plane or anything of the sort - yet it collapsed within 7 seconds

lulz american govt loves u

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>>140255256
ohh no dude not at all fucky. every single thing being (((BURNT))) to oblivion but the passports are without damage?? even though it was on the supposedly hottest floor????? ? ? ? BRUH..... IF YOU BELIEVE THIS.........

>>140256435
nigger no, it collapsed hours after because the shit caught on fire from debris. The fire made the beams brittle, and caused it collapse under its own weight.

>>140256664
>it collapsed hours after because the shit caught on fire from debris
name one single other building that has ever "caught fire from debris" and collapsed
hint: you can't

seriously, do you actually accept that stupid shit? and when I say it collapsed in 7 seconds, I mean it was chilling, like a building, and then suddenly, once it began "collapsing", it was literally gone in 7 seconds.

oh but it caught fire from debris lmao

>>140256953
it's just funny, the explanation for the twin towers is "they were hit by a plane and that shit blew up, duh" - but then the explanation for WTC 7 is "lol some debris fell off the other buildings and they caught fire and then it blowed up."

l m a o

>>140256326
And so what if it wasn't? It's a fucking metal flying at 600 mph. Do you know how fucking fast that is?

It's 600 mph!

>>140256398
I wasn't disagreeing that it would do damage.

Just disagreeing that the cone is aluminum. It's usually fiberglass.

>>140253558
Bad news for you, the outer layer was not the structural part of the buildings

The plane did indeed hit, lets' not be stupid about it. But the plane won't cause that kind of collapse.

Do you guys understand the amount of math and precision you need to bring down a building like that in a way that doesn't top and destroy everything?

>>140252817
Of course it was planes, only flat earth-tier retards think it wasn't planes.

>>140256398
You're the one who was wrong, stop being such a dumb fucking nigger.

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>>140252817

>How the fuck would the have the time and the ability to correct every single video recording of 911? Impossible.

Same way they had the ability to disseminate this globally, instantaneously, and edit and inject cached images on the fly.

>>140252817
stel bemz jit fewl

>>140255527
it literally could
>accelerate fried chicken to an appreciable fraction of C in a vacuum
>fried chicken mass increases well beyond that of steel
>impact
>steel + chicken vaporize instantly in a giant fireball

also you can cut through steel with pressurized water
>>140255749
and the bird was also vaporized.
high speed impacts destroy everything

>>140252817
They were real planes, and real people were on them and died in the attacks.

The government likely knew the attacks were going to happen and allowed them to take place so they could profit from them.

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>>140253902

:^)

>>140253349

I was in Jersey City across the river watching and I did not see a plane hit the second tower. There was just an explosion.

>>140253859
You do realize that this was 16 years ago, right? How many people had phones with the capability of filming anything?

>>140254969
And how the BBC was caught reporting on the tower 7 collapse as their own screen behind them showed tower 7 intact.

I was in my 30's when it happened, and watched the second tower hit when my roommate woke me up frantic to come watch the news.

Like everyone else, we were stunned, shocked then very angry. But later, I thought something was really off about the whole thing and that not only oil but opiates were what we were really after. A tasty bonus on top of the records destruction of all the Enron et,al. contained in WTC 7 not to mention insurance payouts for the Twin Towers themselves.

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>planes
>muslims
>bush was in on it
>((()))))))))

will kek bless me with digits ?

>>140259250
:(

>>140256326
>No
if a couple sheets of paper moving fast enough can cut through a fucking coconut then deveal hundred metric tons of high strength aerospace aluminum alloys moving at 600 miles an hour can/WILL cut through some steel girders. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7t7_cpPB48

>>140258642
Yo did they really take the passengers to a hanger and gas them?

>>140256579
No titanium black boxes, no engines, everything just pulverized. DNA retrieved from clumps of cells because the bodies were just that mutilated. But happenstance to find one of the hijacker's passports?
How can people still think this was NOT an inside job?

>>140259250
Maybe bush himself wasn't in on it, and we have that part wrong. Maybe it was ((them))) doing work outside of the government. Check em to see if confirmed

>>140254629
You're a fucking idiot. Let me guess...now the planes were going 700 mph? It just keeps getting faster even though it is impossible to fly anywhere near top speed at low altitude.
Imagine this...you are Superman and you can swing a titanium baseball bat at 1000 mph.
Now swing that bat into just a 1/2" thick steel I beam.
Guess what happens...THE FUCKING BAT WOULD FUCKING SHATTER

>>140257904
How was I wrong, dumb nigger? Planes are meant to fly, not take damage. Stupid cocksucker.

>>140259800
Mass is whats key here.

>>140259800
>you are Superman and you can swing a titanium baseball bat at 1000 mph. Now swing that bat into just a 1/2" thick steel I beam.Guess what happens...THE FUCKING BAT WOULD FUCKING SHATTER

So would the steal beam. F=MA

>>140259338
That's some nigger tier logic there, Jerome.

>>140259800
does that aluminum baseball bat have 200 times the mass as that steel beam? No? Then shut the fuck up.

>>140259477

No clue, didn't try to follow people.

Just objects and money.

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>>140260125

>>140260281
wouldn't be surprised if they harvested their organs.

>>140259717
<9717

close

>>140260197
>That's some nigger tier logic there, Jerome.
Elementary school Physics = "nigger logic"

They must have never taught you what F=MA means in whatever nigger school you dropped out of.

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The towers were designed with few real floors for the 9/11 occult ritual. No planes.

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>>140260634
Pic very related

>>140260267
Try this one you dumb fuck...
The plane is sitting still and the building is traveling at 400 mph.
Who wins?

>>140260485
Yes, elementary tier logic is nigger tier logic. When did mama stop forcing you to go to school? About that time?

>>140253558
an industrial pressure washer can cut your foot off and it's only water.

>>140252817
have you ever tried taking a pic of a fast moving object?

you have?

how about taking a pic of an object moving at over 500mph

it shows up as a blur

>>140260634
hi cia

>>140261308
>The plane is sitting still and the building is traveling at 400 mph.Who wins?

This only proves that you have zero grasp or understanding on any of Newtons 3 laws.

because 288,100 metric tons traveling at 400 mph at a static object weighing 400,000 lbs is clearly the same as a 400,000 lbs moving at 600 MPH toward a static object weighing 288,100 metric tons.

That's the equivalent level of stupid as asking who wins between a static non moving bullet and a man running at it at 800 feet per second

>>140259076
>what is a camcorder

>>140261308
>Water hose vs 8 inch thick slab of stainless steel. Who wins?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMSGHJ8GJ1A

>>140259076
>people only now carry cameras everywhere because phones have them
you must be 18 to post on 4chan.

>>140261946
and yet you're still not proving anything wrong, or anything at all for that matter. Except for a profound lack of understanding on the simplest laws of physics.

>>140261308
>building is traveling at 400 mph.Who wins?
Gravity!

>>140262496
depends on how far away you are.

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>>140252817
planes were real
but computer-guided by remote (QRS11)

>>140253002
guarantee their data would never match another incident.

that guy who's saying that aluminium goes through steel, is probably same guy who claimed couple of days ago that 1 kg of feathers weights the same as 1 kg of iron. Don't listen this troll.

>>140252817
How about we list the things that matter?

>explosions were seen and heard before impact/collapse
>involvement of pakistani government with no investigation
>lucky larry
>the 6 "suicide bombers" who turned out to stil be alive
>bush-bin laden connection

>>140253737
lol try going 600mph at that altitude and see what happens, wings will rip off. cruising altitude is 30k.

>>140259076
>This is the power of Generation Z

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>>140267548

>>140259076
What a fucking idiot. Im not going to spoonfeed you, but there are some pretty solid compilations of all the amateur footage from that day.

Yes, people had cameras before fruits and robots ran the place.

>>140265480
K nigger. Whatever you say. (btw underage aren't allowed to post here)

>>140252817
>How the fuck would the have the time and the ability to correct every single video recording of 911? Impossible.
Simple, not many people had cameras then, it was 2001 before the smartphone became prominent, even social media wasn't relevant. Everything that was channeled to the public came through media outlets, we all know media outlets are heavily censored/filtered.

>>140253737
The plane was incapable of flying at that speed in such low atmospheric pressure.

>>140267942
Then how did fly at that speed in such low atmospheric pressure? :^)

>>140268083
Exactly, it wasn't what was advertised. Probably a military jet reinforced like a bunker buster with explosives, capable of flying at higher speeds in low atmosphere.

>>140268325
Wait, if it was a military jet why was it clearly a passenger jet?

>>140268414
But it wasn't. Many people claimed it was not a passenger jet, this would also explain why they manipulated the footage, to hide it was a military plane.

>>140260634
Sounds intriguing, but that might as well be picture from right after it was completed, while other floors were still mostly empty.

>>140268610
But why was it a passenger jet?

I still don't get one thing. What happened to people who were actually on those flights?

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>>140269036
retard

>>140269186
No really I don't understand. If it was a military jet why was it a passenger jet?

>>140269036
Memory is notoriously flimsy, especially during high stress situations. Make it look passingly like a passenger plane, adhere to people's expectations of what is possible, reinforce that idea. It's not hard to manipulate people. Today's media retardation should be evidence of that.

>>140269130
Okay, one of the passengers phoned his mother, in an extremely strange conversation, left a message on her answer machine. The only problem was, the plane was out of reach of a cell tower for the call to go through.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHmrEGYoZAU

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>>140267942
>The plane was incapable of flying at that speed in such low atmospheric pressure.

You don't know a much about how atmosphere works. In low altitudes pressure is high and when altitude raises, pressure drops.

>>140269435
Yeah but why were they passenger planes?

>>140269613
low atmospheric pressure

> low = low altitude

fucking stupid fingolian

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>>140269912
They weren't.

>>140270094
Yeah but why were they?

>>140253349
My dad works for Nintendo as well.

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I post this yt link and thread dies.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHmrEGYoZAU

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHmrEGYoZAU

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>>140270016
Stupid eurocuck. Try studying some basic aerodynamics think about how the pressure affects drag.

wheres the interview with the reporter who got into the area the police cut off and was talking to people coming out of the building

one lady on the 80th floor or something was like

''that wasn't a plane :'(''

For the stupid argument that it was all a conspiracy because jet fuel can't melt steel. Well that is true. However. Steel becomes weak at a far lower temperature than its melting point. This is how blacksmiths forged weapons, horseshoes, and all kinds of other metal implement for thousands of years. Because you don't have to melt steel before it becomes soft enough to reshape it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA

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>>140271632
So fucking tarded, the planes weren't blow torches or furnaces, the fuel burned up in minutes.

The holes in the buildings were cool, see pic related. Office fires continued in higher floors, see asbestos
>>140270985

>>140271298
mm of mercury, I hate some units of measure so much.

>>140252817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IGz7fWEmb0

>>140271814
wat

You need 100% mixture of pure JET FUEL continuously for a fire to burn? Is that what you're saying?

>>140253167
I'd take the stress corollary more seriously if it was a CAD based trajectory. Blender physics do not involve filled mesh apparatus.

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>>140252817
Planes in the towers. Explosives in all 3 towers, missile into the pentagon, and who knows what the fuck crashed in Shanksville but there was no plane there.

>>140252817
drones.....

OPERATION NORTHWOODS

google it newfags

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>>140259800
If a wooden bat hit a steel beam at 1000 mph both of them would shatter you fucking retard. The impact force is the same for both objects.

>>140267936
Why are you acting like this instead of trying to provide an answer to him ? I believe 9/11 was an inside job but you have to admit that he has a point. Try to disprove it, that would serve our cause instead of acting like a retarded nigger child

>>140272323
Outside is easily cooled by the constant, strong wind up there. But the fire within is fueled by an office fire, accelerated by jet fuel and provided constant oxygen (skyscrapers are mostly air).

>>140272647
Assuming even if the jet fuel burns up in 5 minutes or less and just starts the fire.

>>140272642
I would have answered but you had to be a little bitch. Good job, little bitch.

>>140272327
found the autism.....
>public schools

>>140253663
the use of planes and israeli involvement are not exclusive from eachother.

>salty jew in denial detected

>>140270173
You mean why were they using passenger planes as scapegoats ? No idea. To further dramatize the situation, maybe ?

Anyway. What shock me the most about 9/11 is that no human/pilot could have re done the exact same movements done by the supposed plane who struck the pentagone. It was literally unfeasible according to actual pilots

>>140267936
Wow, this is the most solid reply I have ever witnessed. Truly made your point.

>>140272782
Answer then, sorry. I just wanted to observe the confrontation of two viewpoints. Please disprove his claim

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>>140273249
Thanks.

>>140267588
checked

continue...

>>140252817
The only way to resolve this it to do it again under controlled conditions.

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>>140272839
Apparently knowing how physics works makes you autistic. I only have a Bachelors in Mechanical Engineering. But of course Newtonian physics is bullshit made up by the Jews to support their schemes.
Fucking kill yourself you know-nothing nigger.

>>140267239
It only has to hold together long enough to crash anon.

Physics is rad yo

>>140252817
>What was it
>What, not
>Who?

Who did 9/11?

The first person to die in the 9/11 attacks was an Israeli ex-captain of Sayeret Matkal, widely considered Israel's version of SEAL Team 6. His name was Daniel Lewin. He was aboard American Airlines Flight 11, the first plane to hit the World Trade Center.

Except Daniel Lewin ***died before*** the plane hit the WTC. You see, according to the official narrative, Daniel Lewin was ***stabbed to death*** aboard the plane right before it hit the WTC, making him the first official death/casualty.

Sayeret Matkal specialize in hijackings and international counter terrorism against Muslim extremists. They are experts in paratrooping (hmm), speak fluent Arabic (as Lewin did), and frequently impersonate Muslim extremists to infiltrate terror cells worldwide.

Even crazier, bros, Daniel Lewin was seated in 9B, directly in front of an alleged hijacker in 10B, aboard Flight 11 on 9/11.

Lastly, Daniel Lewin's father, Charles Lewin (Levin), is a well know Zionist poet in Israel, who detests the United States. He made Daniel, his brothers, and their mom leave the US in 1984 for Israel, because he felt the US threatened their Jewish roots.

Tfw it's 2017 and you didn't know the first person to die in 9/11 was an Israeli Zionist Rambo. We hear about bullshit like thermite and Building 7 every week, but Daniel Lewin is never mentioned. Except in Israel where he's considered a "hero."

Article on Lewin and 9/11:,
http://www.wnd.com/2002/03/12989/

>>140267942
You're an embarrassment. Find a new board.

What are those flashes of light all about just as the planes hit the buildings?

>>140270985
Because asbestos lining is really going to hold up after 400,000 lbs of commercial flight slam into it at 600 mph.

>>140267588
fake, they just cut out the frames with the plane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-jWUzhtTIY

LUL 40 MINUTE VIDEO LUL

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

C/S LEAF, OVER, AND OUT.

>>140260485
Your the nigger here, you should be talking about dF = dG/dt

>>140252817
No Planes... Nuclear weapons do not exist either

>>140267942
Bro u dumb.