Why is he such a Russian shill?

Russia is a shithole but half of ukraine is Russian clay, especially the separatist areas. If you disagree ill call you a ukraine shill see how that works.

He's a nazbol.

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>>140230917

Because that's where he gets his money from.

>>140232187
ahhh, remember when russia was funding communist parties?

>>140232187
Thats a dishonest picture. Those parties keep their money with Russian banks because western ones refuse them. The Russian state isnt funding them.

>>140231257
THis

>>140232381
It probably is, though. Why wouldn't it? Russians see centralization as strength, no matter how often it proves its fragility.

>>140230917
So the Ukraine tried to undermine our election and get Hillary elected and now they are giving nukes to the angry asian fatso?

What is their endgame? Does this have to do with the colored revolutions that Soros created? Anyone have a quick rundown?

>>140230917
because he is CIA.

>>140232750
>Russians see centralization as strength
That has nothing to do with it, even if they do.
>Why wouldn't it?
For this exact reason. Openly funding parties in the west de-legitimatizes the parties in question.

>>140230917
This

Putin gives authoritarians chubbies.

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>>140230917
Because he is a cuck and adjusts to the beliefs of his russian imperialist wife instead of imposing his.

>>140230917
hahahaha shill more faggot

This guy has more shills than Trump at this point. That means he's the real deal

Because he's controlled opposition.

The Russians built the factory that made those engines under Soviet rule. The engines are Russian ordered and built, likely sold to Iran, who then sold them to NK.

>>140230917
He is an an anglophone who has a bilingual wife, who also happens to be a Russian/Soviet apologist. She feeds him cherrypicked info that he himself cannot look up due to the language barrier.
There are lots of "paid by Russia/secret communist" types always posting about him in these instances, but in reality he is just guillible, like many others who watch RT in a way.
If you yourself want to know the truth behind anything Russia related: learn Russian.

>>140233890
>having legitimate criticisms makes you a shill
>the more people dislike you, the better a leader you are
You heard it here first folks, pedophilia will make you the greatest leader of the Alt Right

>>140233703
That explains a lot.

Here's an article about the badge if anyone is interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Patriotic_War

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>>140232381
That's absolutely false. You're an american and have no idea what's happening here, so don't comment on shit you don't understand

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>>140234561

Reminder that Ukraine is Russian clay

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>>140234272

kys, Jew shill

>>140234492
What i said is without a doubt true for the French and British parties in the picture. Bulgaria isn't relevant sorry.

>>140234757
Are these photos of a Bulgarian political party that is funded by Russia?

>>140232381
Your statement is false. The Russian state bank is 100% owned by Great Britain, which in turn reports to you know who.

>>140230917
Ukies attract the most radical elements on the right, he's too academic to deal with pure barbarism

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>>140230917
>Ukraine.
>Destroying the world.
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP, SENPAI!
How a country in such shitty condition can destroy anyone? For fuck's sake, our (((government))) cannot even supply it's own army.

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>>140234843
>counter-signaling a jew shill makes you a jew shill

>>140230917
What's up with the finger pointing upwards emoji? I've also seen it in other rightwing people do it like here: https://youtu.be/5Kg5ioRa850?t=2m50s
Isn't that a snackbar gesture, have are we culturally appropriating it from them now?

>>140234757
Now this is just cringy. Don't you have a national indentity of your own?

>>140234997
You're missing the point. Those political parties were FORCED to use Russian banks because western ones wouldnt take them. That is atleast true for the French and British parties in the picture.

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>>140234899
>What i said is without a doubt true for the French and British parties in the picture.
LMFAO

>American intelligence has been asked to look into Marine Le Pen's links to Russia, following her request for a $30 million (£24.3 million) loan to help fund her French presidential campaign from a bank close to Vladimir Putin, according to reports.
>Ms Le Pen's Front National party has made no secret of the fact that it has taken foreign loans to help bankroll its presidential campaigns because, it has argued, French banks refuse to stump up the funds.
>On Friday Le Pen said the subject of Russian financial backing for her party had not come up in her meeting with Putin. She did, however, reaffirm her position that if elected she would seek a swift removal of EU sanctions on Russia.

>>140234950
Yes, those are pictures of the rallies they hold. Their first and most important promise is to exit the EU and NATO and align with Russia instead. Fun fact: The socialists in our country are bankrolled by the Russians as well - it's THAT bad

>>140235182
They're all paid to do that. Most people just ignore them here, they get 10% of the votes at best with an usual 5%

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>>140235346
>nationalists
>socialists
Where have I heard of this before?

>>140235182
It's the russian whore birgade.Don't you have one of those bands of subhuman filth in your country

>>140234374
nope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_of_Saint_George

>>140235346
>>140235454
You just confirmed what i fucking said. Le pen made no secret of the Russian funding BECAUSE FRENCH BANKS (and other western banks) REFUSED HER. She had no choice.

>>140230917
If I recall correctly the vagina that he's currently bound to is Russian. He has to adjust his political views to maintain access to it.

>>140230917
controlled opposition.

he praises X and hate Y so leftists know to love X and hate Y

>>140235498
Sure we do, but they never dare to be this blatant about it. Donning the Donetsk terrorist flag would not fly here.

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>>140232187
Russia is pretty much hated as a nation of subhumans by our far right wing. The Danish Nazi party is much more old school as it was not abolished after WW2.

>>140232381
this
probably true, don't know much about the situation though
but i doubt putin would fund a national-socialist party in germany

There is literally nothing wrong with being a Russian shill. Russia is the greatest country on earth.

>>140235861
nice, do they hold any political positions?

>>140235473
Well it's important to note that the Socialists in our country aren't actually socialists but rather communists who pretend to be socialists while being capitalists. They're trying to plunder our nation by installing an oligarchy that is bankrolled by Russia and gives Russian preferences to all government contracts (like our nuclear power plant, or allowing full oil monopoly by the Russian pipes). It's a long story.

>>140235667
Absolutely agree with you. She just wants to lift the sanctions against Russia and ally with Russia because she feels bad for those poor Russians :(

>>140230917
Why are you such an ukrainian shill?

Fuck off back to The_Donald, faggot.

>>140233703
His wife is based. The only reason you hate her is because of your JIDF affiliation

>>140230917
>"Ukraine" small country
hes saying jewish/israel you fucking idiots

>>140236040
Why should the west sanction Russia?

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>>140235984
not in the parliament as there is a 3% of all vote wall to entry. They try every election though and had a mayor some time ago.
Not really big as the Danish Peoples Party gets the votes that would otherwise go to parties like them.
They are not really considered a big deal here.

>>140236299
Expansionism and warmongering, annexation of foreign territory, hostility towards the west.

>>140236040
>They're trying to plunder our nation by installing an oligarchy that is bankrolled by Russia and gives Russian preferences to all government contracts (like our nuclear power plant, or allowing full oil monopoly by the Russian pipes). It's a long story.

I agree, you would be much better off with Germany and the EU and Soros. Then they could plunder your nation under the guise of humanitarianism and European unity and not Germany's latest manic phase and (((you know who.)))

>>140233703
>>140233243
>>140232750
>>140232381
>>140232187
>>140231257
Spencer isn't cia, he is a Russian shill that pimps nazbol ideology for America.

Every nation in the world, if they are rational actors, will look after their own self interest. Spencer is a Russian agent, and most of the altright are useful idiots creating a fifth column within the states.

Just as on the left there are many agents and shills for the Saudis and gulf states that pimp sharia and Islamic ideologies.

Jews aren't the only subversive affects in America, just the most obvious to us.

>>140236698

>Expansionism and warmongering, annexation of foreign territory, hostility towards the west.

Since Germany's doing the same thing can we sanction them too?

>>140235614
Thanks, that explains the ribbon. But isn't the badge I linked to correct?

>>140236853
>Germany's doing the same thing
How? I don't see Germans literally invading and overthrowing govts, changing flags. NATO is not annexing anyone, and the EU is not redrawing borders (yet).

>>140236698
>Expansionism and warmongering
So why hasnt europe sanctioned the USA? Oh right you're pussies.
>annexation of foreign territory
Through a referendum. It was former Russian territory to begin with, AND the population they annexed was ethnically Russian who spoke Russian. Literally nothing wrong with this.
>hostility towards the west.
How the fuck does that qualify sanctions? You realize sanctions used to be an outright act of war?

>>140236853
>Expansionism and warmongering, annexation of foreign territory

wtf r u talking about

>>140230917
http://spacenews.com/ukrainian-government-investigation-concludes-no-engine-transfers-to-north-korea/

fat tits is wrong, idk why people find it so hard to believe that norks are smart

>>140236299
The Russians are bad people. We forgot about Georgia way too fast and they capitalized on that by invading Ukraine several years later. This leads us to the conclusion that those people will never stop until they restore their old Soviet Empire, and that there should actually be consequences when they pull shit like that. Else countries like Ukraine, Poland, Romania, Belarus and the Baltics can just be directly signed as Russian territory from now

>>140236741
>I agree, you would be much better off with Germany and the EU and Soros.
Well we unironically are. Our economy is actually growing contrary to crashing under the Russians

>>140236853
>Since Germany's doing the same thing can we sanction them too?
what?

>>140237208
So what you are saying is that Russia is in the right here, they have done no wrong. The war in east Ukraine is justified?

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>>140236817
Bang on brother

>>140237208
>So why hasnt europe sanctioned the USA? Oh right you're pussies.
Your time will come as well, fellow American. Please nuke North Korea and lose the very last drop of global reputation you have left. People see you as warmongers now, imagine what they'll think of you after nuking Asia for a second time.

Once you lose that reputation its only about time until you start devolving like Russia and the entire world turns against you and refuses to trade with you, but due to the nature of your nation the companies wont turn patriotic and start producing more products to diminish the sanctions, they'll just run away. That's what your entire nation is - rich capitalists with 0 loyalty to your nation who'd instantly fuck off if their money was threatened

>>140237500

is ataka pro-russian? I didn't know that.

wtf I love ataka now

>>140237177
>I don't see Germans literally invading and overthrowing govts, changing flags.

Right, they're not "literally" invading. They are however responsible for much of Europe being invaded by endless swarms of refugees from across the world and have attacked and maligned countries who refuse to follow EU what they and the rest of the EU want, including countries that did not agree to Germany's handling of the refugees (which, as we know, as a fucking disaster that they have repeatedly admitted they underestimated) and were not equipped to handle the crisis to begin with.

They are now the most powerful nation in the EU and working overtime to uphold it and even establishing an EU army. This is because Germany hasn't really changed, all of their old tendencies towards militarism, ultranationalism etc. have just been channeled into extreme neoliberal globalism, and people the world over have been convinced that POOTLER is the real threat, and Germany is a force for good and aren't just showing once again that unified Germany is a blight on humanity.

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>>140237500
Russia is a shithole but they were in the right over Crimea.
Eastern europe is still butthurt about the soviet union and worried Russia will annex them, OK. Form your own alliance to fight them i want nothing to do with it. The USA has no good reason to fight them.

>>140237500
>We forgot about Georgia way too fast
Because it was proved that Georgia started ethnic cleanings and attacked Russian forces.

>>140236817
>>140238019
t. loonies

>>140238128
>is ataka pro-russian?
They're not pro-russian, they ARE russian. During one of their celebrations they didn't invite a single Bulgarian music band to perform, but they invited a Russian one. The large guy you see standing on the stage in those pics? That's a Russian who is a member of Putin's party.

>>140230917
Because he's a fraud. His only purpose is to discredit any conservative groups that aren't neocon including painting trump supporters as some logically inconsistent combination of nazis and Russian agents.

>>140238064
I agree with you. Why would we be loyal? We're a melting pot of ethnicities and no unified culture. I hope this place balkanizes.

>>140236817
Hello CIA

>>140238134

>They are however responsible for much of Europe being invaded by endless swarms of refugees from across the world

This likewise doesn't touch upon how Saudi Arabia is more than capable of taking the majority of refugees, but instead there's no verified numbers on how many they've taken in and absolutely no evidence they've taken in any significant amount. Meanwhile, they've heavily fortified their northern borders, while there's been a massive propaganda effort mounted that acts as if the refugees have literally nowhere else to go, and that all of those deaths in the Med are Europe's fault and not Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia gets away with this because they have massive political clout and nobody questions them on this. Likewise the whole thing with an obscenely wealthy, influential Wahhabist state having huge flows of muslim refugees diverted to Europe, AKA the longest-running bastion of Christianity.

>>140238170
>The USA has no good reason to fight them.
I ain't calling for an invasion, all I'm saying is that the Russians aren't those innocent guys that everyone makes them out to be. They're sociopathic greedy subhumans who plunder their own nation, let alone those close to them

>>140236817
this

you should be against russians just as much as liberal globalism

>>140232187
muh russian boogieman.

>>140237500
>The Russians are bad people.

On the other hand, the krauts, with their storied history of imperialism, genocide, ultranationalism etc. are wonderful. They've changed for sure.

>Well we unironically are. Our economy is actually growing contrary to crashing under the Russians

You're being threatened with sanctions by Germany because you've barely taken in any rapefugees. Good luck with that after you've taken in however many Germany decides upon and whatever else the EU's crushing bureaucracy has in mind.

>>140230917
Spencer is pro-EU and was anti-Brexit, he isn't a Russian shill you retards.

>>140236817
Try seeking out alternative news sources to CNN. Your view might change drastically on this matter.

>>140230917
>Ukraine
>destroying anything

>>140239022
stop posting faggot. And stop using reddit spacing.

>>140236926
This badge given to ppl at ww2 only.

>>140238134
Germany is a totalitarian state that is killing it's own citizens and wants all of us to follow, but they are still not invading foreign territories,
not "reviewing" the independence of the states next to them, and not sending 'little green men' to invade others wile claiming that they have nothing to do with it.
Germany is bad, but Russia is wose on the geopolitical scale.
You westerners really need to stay out of things you don't understand. All you get is translated and controlled info, not the real deal.
>>140238170
The difference is that the US is not invading anyone and is welcomed here due to recent Russian aggression in Ukraine. If not for Crimea they would not be here.

>>140239295
>The difference is that the US is not invading anyone
We could invade Greece or something right now and europe would still bend over like our bitch. All we have to do is make something up like they have chemical weapons and say its for humanitarian purposes.

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>>140237411
>ukrainian
>government
>investigation
You made my evening mate.

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>>140239022
>You're being threatened with sanctions by Germany because you've barely taken in any rapefugees.
Actually here's a very fun fact: we actually aren't and we are the ones threatening. Our prime minister threatened to pull our army from EU operations if the EU didn't start taking most refugees from us, for which they folded and did. The reason Poland can't do that is because unlike us, they owe the EU massive amounts of money and have sold their sovereignty for gibs. Polish economy is on average more prosperous than ours because of that, but they now have to suck German dick while we can still dictate the terms. No one forced that money down their throats, they asked for it, and now when they're told to pay it back they chimp out like niggers.

Don't listen to Polish propaganda who're trying to swerve it to seem like the innocent victims, because Greece, Bulgaria and Romania are doing excellently when it comes to refugees and no one is saying anything (nor can say anything)

Hitlery Clingon is that you...?

>>140239544
>could
But are not. That's the difference.

>>140240072
We have invaded countries. iraq, afganistan. And we've destroyed countries like libya, syria and ukraine through proxies. What are you talking about?

>>140232187
>MUH RUSSIANS
kek

>>140239295
>Germany is a totalitarian state that is killing it's own citizens and wants all of us to follow, but they are still not invading foreign territories,
Their actions with the refugees are undermining national sovereignty and integrity across Europe. It is overwhelmingly to their benefit and suicidal delusions. You draw a line because they're not using their own military forces to invade people. Instead, they're just using masses of third worlders (for now.)

>Germany is bad, but Russia is wose on the geopolitical scale.
Germany's actions threaten Europe with economic and social collapse. They are providing incomparable opportunity for terrorism to grow and thrive and spread across the globe. We have seen crime, violence, terrorism and cultural disruption that never existed until the refugee crisis. It shows no signs of abating.

And we've seen through all this a massive rise in the popularity of nationalist parties and right-wing politics. This is to some degree due to Russian influence for sure; but more than anything, I think it's a natural reaction to sociopathic elites undermining the very fabric of your nation by letting in swarms of incompatible foreigners and quashing and silencing dissent.

>You westerners really need to stay out of things you don't understand. All you get is translated and controlled info, not the real deal.
Right, like the kind that treats Russia as some incomparable apex threat, Putin as some boogeyman mastermind who wants to resurrect the USSR/the Old Russian Empire and is behind right-wing movements across the globe- all the while treating Merkel. Germany and the EU as forces for good and not a delusional, self-hating psychopath (with the EU being full of people just like her) leading Germany into another maniacal quest for power, fundamentally no different from what we saw out of them throughout the last century.

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>>140240911
Read this post. Not everything is as one sided as you want it to be: >>140239637
>wants to resurrect the USSR
Hee himself stated so in an older interview, it was something along the lines of "restore the glory of the USSR"
>is behind right-wing movements across the globe
This is false. A lie originated from the very same people wo say that Russia hacked your elections.
Russia is very anti-nationalist. Such movements are banned in Russia even. It's just that they don't talk about foreign politics openly unlike the west.

>>140232381
Because shekelberg western banks* refuses them. At least true for the Front National, and the local media here are losing their shit that Le Pen got loans from Russia. While Macron got his campaign money from shady "private donators" and nobody bats an eye.

>>140239637

Most of your post, I find believable, and interesting if true. Nonetheless, it does not undermine the fact what the EU is doing with refugees is abject insanity, and no country should be forced to go along with that, which would amount to undermining their sovereignty and endangering their citizens.

But on the other hand,

>Families are fleeing the war in Syria and seeking safe refuge in your lands.
Do you actually believe this shit? The majority of Syrian refugees into Europe have been single men. There are likewise swarms of refugees from places far beyond Syria and are from countries that aren't in any state of war. The refugee crisis exists only as it does because nobody pressured Saudi Arabia to take them in.

>Don't listen to Polish propaganda who're trying to swerve it to seem like the innocent victims,
Instead, I should probably listen to EU/German propaganda that paints themselves as defenders of freedom, democracy and human rights.

>because Greece, Bulgaria and Romania are doing excellently when it comes to refugees and no one is saying anything (nor can say anything)
What do you mean? Bulgaria and Romania have barely take in any. Greece has plenty and their economy is still pretty shit. They've suffered massive strain from the huge numbers of refugees washing up on their islands, scaring off tourists etc. They've only really not suffered comparatively that much because so many of their refugees end up getting diverted elsewhere.

>>140241931
The image was made from a rop-EU point of view, it is his actual post that matters.

>>140241610
>Read this post. Not everything is as one sided as you want it to be:
I did, and I'm not trying to uphold that narrative. Fun fact: I'm not a fan of Russia, I recognize they're very corrupt. Putin is not a good man and I recognize Russia's ambitions are ultimately beneficial to themselves.

>Hee himself stated so in an older interview, it was something along the lines of "restore the glory of the USSR"
I was being hyperbolic, but that is what many Russian hysterics have echoed or outright said.

>This is false. A lie originated from the very same people wo say that Russia hacked your elections.
That idea is absolutely pervasive in modern narratives about Russia. It's tied up in a breathtaking amount of hubris on the part of neolibs that amounts to "the only reason anyone wouldn't like mass immigration, amnesty, letting in huge numbers of refugees etc. is Russian meddling." It is likewise done with virtually no critical examination of the motives of the EU and Germany. It is a breathtaking on-sided propaganda campaign that treats Russia as the ultimate, sole aggressor while taken the idea Germany and the EU are forces for good at face value.

In my country, Trump has long gotten immeasurable amounts of flak for anything remotely positive said about Putin. Hillary, on the other hand, has openly stated she admires Merkel more than any other world leader and wants to emulate her. Nobody bats an eye at this.

Likewise your posts and those of others are peculiarly dismissive of Germany.

>>140242419
pro*

And Russia is faring no better. Putin is welcomeing tons of Muslims from the Caucasus region into Russia, and ethnic Russian birthrates are even worse than western European ones. So your rapefugees/ migrants point is not the monolitic difference in all of this.

>>140242614

> Hillary, on the other hand, has openly stated she admires Merkel more than any other world leader and wants to emulate her. Nobody bats an eye at this.

If you want a source on this: http://time.com/4166539/hillary-clinton-woman-governing-campaigning/

>Any particular foreign leader whose executive stewardship you admire and might want to emulate as president?

>Well, I have to say that I highly admire Angela Merkel. I’ve known Angela since the 1990s, she and I actually appeared on a German TV show together. I have spent personal time with her. She is, I think, a really effective strong leader and really right now the major leader in Europe, not just in Germany. I admire her political skills and her principles, her strong work ethic. I just find her to be an incredibly important person in the world today and I look to her to see how she’s managed it.

But Trump? Anything slightly positive or favorable towards Putin has been met with endless hysteria. Nothing he has ever said about Putin has been this adamant.

>>140242996
Let's archive it
https://unvis.it/time.com/4166539/hillary-clinton-woman-governing-campaigning

>>140242614
There. So you wnderstand that geopolitics is a very real thing. Russia is the lesser evil in your case, while Germany and cronies are that for us.

>>140237500

Your retarded cuckistan known as Bulgaria exists solely because of Russia mate. They literally did more to build your country than even Ukraine.

>>140242801

I've heard of this, but I don't think it's quite the same. Germany and the EU have been letting in swarms of completely unvetted people into their countries and letting them run freely throughout Europe. It has gone above and beyond primarily Syrians and instead people from across the entire middle east and sub-saharan africa. They are letting in basically anyone who can come.

Would be curious for more information on Russia's approach though.

>>140243366

Trusting perpetually buttblasted sprats for accurate take on Russia is pointless. Putin has taken great pains to restore Russian birth rates and solidified the Orthodox church as pillar. He also encourages Muslims to organize openly because that makes it easier to track them when eventually the time comes to smack them down as they've done before. All of these mosques are honeypots, even Boston bombers were tracked and known about in Russia due to going there.

>>140230917
The Ukraine is rightful Russian clay, always has been. The Galician Uniat fantasy called "Ukraine" does not exist.

>>140230917
ukraine is like nazi russia, therefore superior. also, they probably sold it to them because they figured the norks would just get shit on before they could really use it anyways. make some money, terrorist despot gets buttfucked by the usa, no one loses.

>>140243306
Yeah, sure. Russia built all ex-Soviet nations, all of us were living in mud huts before that. >>140243894
>restore Russian birth rates
And has succeded my importing tons of muslims. And the post-2014 boom is not Russian births rising, but just Crimeans being added to the count.
>solidified the Orthodox church as pillar
A pillar of control. That is the state controlled church. Everything there is Kremlin regulated.
>>140243366
I don't have the pop. by ethnicities chart right now, I might look them up later.

>>140243071
>Russia is the lesser evil in your case, while Germany and cronies are that for us.

I don't get much of your dismission of Germany though. You think Germany isn't as bad as Russia in large part because they're not "literally" invading people, but again- that's just going by the literal definition. The refugees reflect their own ambitions, interests and delusions and in a fundamental sense constitute an invasion. They threaten the very fabric of Europe and threaten international security.

Likewise, it's perfectly rational and sensible for any European country to not want any refugees. They have every reason to see them as a threat. When I look at the Russian narrative, I honestly can't help but feel a considerable amount of their actions are in response to the EU's psychotic refugee and migration policies. It could be argued that the EU opening their doors was a response to Russian actions in the Ukraine and such, a show of force to show Russia that the EU's commitment to neoliberalism is the way of the future and sustainable. And for doing something that fucking insane, can you really blame Russia for some of it's actions? Especially many eastern european countries wishing to align with them?

But in the eyes of the pro-EU narratives that dominate, Russia's actions are purely their own selfish, imperialist efforts and Poland, the Czechs etc. pulling away is the work of Russian psy-ops or something. Only that could explain not wanting to flood your country with terrorists, criminals, etc.

>>140244482
>I don't have the pop. by ethnicities chart right now, I might look them up later.

I was referring to how the immigration from muslim countries is carried out. Where are these people headed? How is Russia handling them? How does it compare to the EU?

>>140230917
Dats rite

We wuz roket scintst N shiet

>>140230917
Ukraine is a fake country full of subhumans. This has nothing to do with Russia, this is common sense.

>>140232980
Yea, we're just doing it for shits and giggles

>>140235142
The perfect false flag!

>>140239205
That's not completely true, we're pretty efficient at destroying ourselves

>>140244710

>Only that could explain not wanting to flood your country with terrorists, criminals, etc.

Which, of course, is all Russian propaganda too. Or- if Russians at all play a role in disseminating the narrative, and especially if it's slightly exaggerated in some way (even if the terrorist act, crime etc. is still mostly true, or there's plenty of other similar acts)- then the whole idea of refugees being an issue can be dismissed out of hand. Russian outlets played a role in disseminating some of the more extreme reports of the Cologne attacks (IE treating all reports as sexual assaults, all the attackers as recent refugees), and this invalidated the narrative for many.

Also, look up "The Alliance for Securing Democracy" and "Hamilton 68", a think take filled with Bush neocons and Clinton campaign staff that's big on tracking Russian propaganda efforts. Their latest is that the idea that antifa being a threat is in some capacity (if not entirely) a russian propaganda effort, because Russian Times tweets about them.

These sentiments are what I've seen time and time again with Russia's relation to the refugees and right-wing populism. It's fucking insane.

>>140239222
Ok, I understand. Whoever made the graphic chose a random photo of the Ribbon, which happened to have this badge on it. But Spencer's wife is just wearing the ribbon.

>>140244978
>Croatia
>calling anyone subhuman

Weren't you under Muslim occupation for like 500 years or something?

>>140244710
Migrants are not coming here, so that is not a problem for us, but Russian tanks and troops stationed at our borders and staring at our border posts are.
And the only eastern European nation that is tipping more to the Russian side is Belarus, and even they are weary of the Russian intentions.
Anti-Russian does not qeual pro-EU. Not by a long shot. Germany is merely the lesser evil here.
>>140244872
Russia is still in an economic crisis right now. They are importing kavkaz muslims as a means of cheap labour and population boon.
They are moving to Moscow and St.Petersburg in droves. The largest mosque in Europe is located in Moscow. It was built to due to the muslim demand.
The only reason why Russia is not like western Europe right now is that the law enforcement is still doing its duty there,
and they are known for being nutoriously brutal. Muslims fear and respect that, so they don't act up.

>>140244710

And you dismiss me as a "westerner who doesn't understand", but I'm sorry if you haven't made a good case for why Russia is the bigger threat. It's funny how you say "All you get is translated and controlled info, not the real deal.", when that is essentially what we get here. You recognize Germany as bad, but unless they're explicitly conservative outlets, that isn't what's communicated or reported on at all, and much of the Republican party is sympathetic to the Russian narrative. McCain himself has heavily praised Merkel. It is absolutely one-sided with Russia treated as an apex threat and Germany and the EU seen as a genuine force for good. The Russian narrative has been so disseminated and broadcast at all levels of this country- and it all really started over Trump's joke about Russia finding her emails, when you get down to it. I'm sure you've seen the Project Veritras videos of CNN staff admitting they think it's "mostly bullshit", atleast with regards to Trump colluding with them.

And nobody touches at all on the role of Saudi Arabia. There's basically a blackout on them. Never seen any footage of Syrian refugee camps there, or refugees at their northern border.

>>140246344
Kraut and Moskal are never your friends. Either you dump both or perish, your choice.

>>140232187

Let me get this straight mountainnazi it is okay when the saudis:

>finance FEMEN
>finance antifa
>finance all the pro-muslim media
>finance building mosques in yurop
>finance refugee "rescue" boats to take them to yurop
>finance ISIS and other such groups

But if russia dares to give pocket chance to mostly center-right parties that's super-duper bad?

>>140246545
Agreed.

>>140230917
under the OPS flag lays a hohol !

>>140246344
>Migrants are not coming here, so that is not a problem for us, but Russian tanks and troops stationed at our borders and staring at our border posts are.

Right, but given how the refugees are disseminated throughout Europe and threaten economic and social collapse of it's most powerful nations, they are still a problem for you, just not as immediate.

You also do know that Germany is an actual EU army right?

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/22/germany-is-quietly-building-a-european-army-under-its-command/

>And the only eastern European nation that is tipping more to the Russian side is Belarus, and even they are weary of the Russian intentions.

Curious what you're defining as "tipping more to the Russian side", because those countries are all in some way moving away from the EU (and might leave altogether in the future). What are they going to be left with if they aren't aligning with Russia in some way?

>The only reason why Russia is not like western Europe right now is that the law enforcement is still doing its duty there,
and they are known for being nutoriously brutal. Muslims fear and respect that, so they don't act up.
Yeah, that would explain things. But I still question whether it's that comparable to the EU. You say they're importing them to counter the population decline, but are they really intending for them to become the next-generation of Russians like in the case of Europe? Wolfgang Schauble has openly said that if Europe does not take in refugees, they'll destroy themselves through inbreeding. There is every intent of making the refugees a permanent part of Europe and the next generation of Europeans. They have no issue with replacing themselves with arabs, africans etc. I kind of doubt it is quite like this in Russia.

>>140247374

>You also do know that Germany is an actual EU army right?

Meant to say "is fronting the effort to build an actual EU army", don't know how that got cut off.

>>140232187
Russia supporting NPD, jesus fucking Christ. These "infographics" really triggering me lately. Atleast pick the AfD.

>>140247374

>importing them to counter the population decline

Why not import german expats then? north of murrica is full of them, same with the south of brazil

Is what japan does, they bring in their diaspora and it works

> they'll destroy themselves through inbreeding

That makes zero sense, there are way too many germans (for now) for that to happen

I think the minimum to about inbreeding is 500 people

And in any case the german gov could pay native germans to have kids, or lower the taxes or something, give an incentive since having a kid is so fucking expensive

>>140232187
How convenient for the political opponents of these parties; There's not way someone made this image to subvert people into supporting them

>>140246847
Russia has ties to both left-wing and right-wing parties, I don't know why liberals ignore that

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>>140232187
>UKIP
>far right

>>140248075

Because free money

They still demonize the russkies tho

>>140248130

It is for your cucked country ahmed

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>>140232187
he's a Duginist

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>>140230917
ITT: people pretend Russia has any actual power

>>140248028

>Why not import german expats then?
Why didn't they import Greek foreign workers? Could have really helped their economy, giving them work like that. Why didn't they import people from other poorer European countries?

Why do the people they let in have to be permanent parts of the country?

>That makes zero sense, there are way too many germans (for now) for that to happen
It makes zero sense because the people who run Germany are fucking insane. I would not put it past them to drug people to embrace refugees, as was the focus of this ghastly study: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4779454/The-drug-cure-xenophobia.html

>And in any case the german gov could pay native germans to have kids, or lower the taxes or something, give an incentive since having a kid is so fucking expensive
Of course they could. But in the eyes of mass immigration fanatics, neoliberals etc., there is literally no other way to reverse population decline than through immigration (and it doesn't matter where it comes from.)

>>140247543
This EU army thing was a failiure even at it's inception. The moment Germany would order them to attack any of their own nations the whole thing would fall apart.
An EU army cannot be, as it would lack an intergral part to it: loyalty. The only way for it to function would be to go full Soviet dictatorship, but they can't. Revolts would be imminent.

>>140230917
Based Spancer, you should really support him guys.

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>>140248206
The BNP are our far right party you spastic, UKIP are even more civic than the jew loving trumps

>>140248339
Another retard

>>140248339

I don't know, one of his biggest mentors was the paleocon jew Paul Gottfried.

Also apparently Richard Hoste, the author of the long-dead HBDbooks, but nobody remembers that.

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/016271.html

>I just want you to know that Richard Hoste was a graduate student at Yale when Richard Spencer was an undergrad there. Spencer was simply a conservative before Hoste started to influence him. It was he who introduced Spencer to Kevin MacDonald, and now the two Richards are ideologically very close. Hoste wanted to do his Master’s on Jewish group behavior and had a falling out with his department. This must have influenced Spencer. Hoste has also been able to impress Peter Brimelow. Vdare donors called Brimelow threatening to cut off funding if he didn’t get rid of Hoste but Brimelow refused, seeing Hoste’s position on Israel as something he must defend on principle.

>>140248206
>They still demonize the russkies tho
Actually not, but it depends on what fraction of leftists we're talking about
Russia's strongest support unironically comes from the socialist left aka. the GUE-NGL

>>140248339
>his girlfriend is from Russia that means he is a Russian spy xdddd

>>140248475

What, you mean this?

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-06-07/the-eu-isn-t-raising-an-army-yet

The article isn't that clear, but regardless, the intent and efforts to create an EU army, or something similar, exist. There is no reason to believe Germany wouldn't attempt and try to uphold something like this.

This is a more recent article that indicates it's a more serious proposal: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/820418/european-union-army-defence-fund-emmanuel-macron-angela-merkel-juncker-military

The viability of that isn't the point; it is nonetheless a testament to Germany's militaristic ambitions, and there's no reason to believe they wouldn't seriously try heading another European military alliance of some kind and gin up support against their enemies. They are absolutely the most powerful nation in the EU at this point.

>>140232187
>NPD
>right wing
You are a fucking mongoloid retard
They are literal socialists
They are even more economically left than the linke
Filtered your id retard

>>140248475

still would like if you could answer more of

>>140244710
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>>140236817
Imagine being this fucking crazy

>>140243071
It's hilarious watching Russian shills argue with other Russian shills to trick /pol/tards into loving Russia.

>>140249608
Germany sure as hell will try to form it, but it will fail. And German ambitions mean nothing, as it will implode sooner or later.
I have a feeling that Germany itself will be a warzone before it ever could muster the force to attack anyone, especially Russia.
>>140249787
In short: Russia has always been a threat to us due to it's proximity, and especially now it is an imminent threat, while Germany is not.
That is not me saying that Germany and her EU cronies are good, but in the case of those of us bordering Russia, Germany is not our primary threat.
I'm too tired to stay up all night and frantically bash my keyboard. Crashing soon.
>>140250607
(You)

>>140250607

I haven't argued with any other "Russian shills", unless you somehow think the Latvian is one.

>>140250964
Yeah, your flag shows who you are and it can never be wrong. Kek.

>>140250827
>Germany sure as hell will try to form it, but it will fail. And German ambitions mean nothing, as it will implode sooner or later.
Usually, not without a tremendous amount of bloodshed and violence.

>I have a feeling that Germany itself will be a warzone before it ever could muster the force to attack anyone, especially Russia.
I've wondered that myself. I think that it could get to the point where the refugees lead to massive civil unrest or some kind of civil war in Germany. And the chaos could threaten nearby nations and even prompt military action from eastern european countries, including Russia.

And would they be wrong for intervening? If they did, I imagine the same Russia hysterics would think this is Russia doing what they've been planning on all along and isn't a rational response to the outcome of Germany doing something fucking insane. It goes back to the refugee crisis being a show of force against Russia over Ukraine.

>That is not me saying that Germany and her EU cronies are good, but in the case of those of us bordering Russia, Germany is not our primary threat.
That's not the impression I got from you; you've been seemingly argue Russia is the bigger threat to Europe as a whole. I can believe Russia is a bigger threat to countries like yours, but I honestly believe Germany/the EU are a bigger threat to European stability as a whole, and by extension your country in the long run.

If you've just been arguing the threat posed to countries like yours this whole time, then we've been misunderstanding each other. But I'm guessing you still think that for all of Europe, Russia is the biggest threat.

>>140230917
His estranged wife is literally a Russian state propagandist

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>>140230917
>North Korea

>>140251657

I wanted to mention this but she really looks like one of those nasty, tranny-looking hardcore porn stars, it's just further proof Richard Spencer is a faggot.

Hoste, his older mentor, also despised gays.

>>140251571
>we've been misunderstanding each other
Pretty much. I don't care about western Europe at all. It is beyond saving anyway.

>>140232187
Lel, I bet they updated the picture to include Poland too now since they have good party in power

>>140252130

Ok, atleast we got that clarified. Later.

>>140252122
I just think it's really hard to get a normal looking woman when you're a public nazi

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The Russian shilling and bias is blatant on this board and has been since the election cycle, intensified in September. The problem becomes is that Russians in general carry themselves with this unfounded arrogance. The men in charge of Russia, Putin and "da boys" are all former KGB agents. They robbed the country of its natural resources, bet big on the market for those resources to continually rise and came up bust when the US and Saudis decided to undermine the market by having total control of the petrodollar. What Putin and the rest of the KGB Oligarchs failed to realize and only now understand is that military presence abroad goes hand in hand with economic influence. They lost valuable time with Yeltsin at the helm, again another one of (((them))) ruined their country. Putin and his high school buddies are not intellectually capable of fighting multiple wars on different fronts in various sectors. After the Chechen wars Putin began to outsource his military operations. Using mercenaries from former Asian soviet block countries. He couldn't control in absolute capacity the likes of Ukraine, Belarus, and Poland who began to branch out independently. Now he must make up for lost time and over decade of independent growth to curtail their expansion and self sufficiency. Russian believe they're masters as the main stay country of the Soviet Union, while everyone else was merely along for the ride. In reality Russia exploited the countries within its union both economically and militarily. Not to mention socially with an emphasis on religious practice. While Muslims were free to practice and hold their core values tied into their beliefs, Christians were persecuted. The reason is because (((they))) and I do mean Jews, the majority of the communist party were and still are masisive kikes, used the Muslims as attack dogs in the outsourcing of military matters. Until the Chechens wanted out and control of their own military and resources, oil. Fuck (((Russians))).

>>140252122
>Hoste, his older mentor, also despised gays.

like any reasonable human being

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Russia has always and shall always remain the high school jock who can't completely and totally bring it all together, put all the pieces of the puzzle in order and complete. They're either intelligent and physically weak or physically powerful yet emotionally and mentally deranged. They're failed products of years and years of interbreeding of all Asian and Eastern European rejected genes. Combine that with the utmost of inferiority complexes based on the fact they had all this land and population yet did fuck all dick with it. Can't live with the reality of their social and economic failures so decide to funnel that anger into their military and still come up short. Their tactics are remedial and their ability overestimated.

>>140254059
This board has STRONG Russian and Chink influence. It also isn't hidden that both these untermensch countries has a shit ton of state sponsored online presence and has thousands of filthy faggots shilling for them.

>>140237500
>old Soviet Empire
Correction. Pre-Soviet Empire.

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>>140235104
Well, they can supply NK it seems. Money is money. Your own army doesn't have money, neither it can be used to make money.
Nice filename, btw, gave me keks.

>>140230917
Because he's a closet homosexual and they have photos of him and Cenk cuddling.

>>140232187
Jobbik and Golden Dawn are pro-Putin?
I thought Svoboda were their natsoc buddies.

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>>140233890
Hi Mike Enoch! How's the weight loss going bud?

No, he's not the real deal. He's an idiot, but that's because he's a Limey, and they're dumb as bricks.

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Russians aren't and never were "protectors" of the white race. They were in fact the opposite. Sending intelligent and physically superior men and women to the gulags from the block countries from in what is now considered Western Europe such as Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. Look at the Soviet sports teams, count how many were born and ethnic Russians compared to the rest of the team. The fact that the (((Bolsheviks))) decided it would be in their best interest to murder and entire royal family in cold blood, children among them, speaks to their subhuman nature. The fact that the majority of Russians went along with it as if it would turn out well speaks to the Russian intelligence levels amongst it public. Additionally the (((civil war))) and (((revolution))) in Ukraine is only possible from the previous genocide manufactured by those very same (((Bolsheviks))) in the early 1930's. The regions effected the most were found in Eatsern Ukraine, where now there is a "Russian speaking" majority. Funny how genocide coupled with population replacement comes back to help the geopolitical posturing of the new Russian reasoning. Almost as if it were planned long before. Until the likes of the National Corps and Azov take back their country, Ukraine has a Jewish population of less than 2% yet 65% of the seats held in parliament are held by Jews makes you wonder who this revolution and civil war benefits, there will be no peace and no growth both socially and economically. That doesn't mean join the EU or NATO, it means a Ukraine for Ukrainians, by Ukrainians. Proper and truthful representation. The same can be said in the US and any other country where Jews are a minority yet act as the majority on all matters and decisions socially or economically. People have to realize they're free and should strive for more than merely a slice of bread and cup of water at the end of grueling work day. Understand that they are owed something more than the scraps from the table of tyrants.

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>>140252122
>it's just further proof Richard Spencer is a faggot.

Everyone knows this is the truth. Why doesn't he just come out already? I mean, it's (((current year)))

>>140241753
If french and western banks don't lend money to FN is because they have great difficulties to pay back those loans, unlike other french parties.

1st reason : FN supporters are among the poorest segment of the population, so donors usually don't give much. Also the social stigma of supporting FN discourrages donors.

2nd reason : the cordon sanitaire against FN and the 2 rounds non-proportional system. It limits the numbers of elected officials to a ridiculously small number, and so for decades FN received public fundings inferior to the ones the communists got while their party is proportionally 4 times larger.

3rd reason: while their fundings are limited due to the reasons mentioned above, their spendings are still the ones of a large party.

So yes I can believe banks don't make any effort to help them because it's the FN and because forcing them to lend money is russia is easy anti-Fn propaganda. But there are still deeper reasons.

>>140254059
>>140254936
>>140257476
>>140255477

hello louise mensch

>>140254061

Oh I agree, it's just funny in face of that. I'm sure Paul Gottfried did too. I wonder if they knew they were influencing such a flamer.

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>>140232187
>MUH RUSSIAN BOOGEYMAN
retarded Mountain Kraut. Why would Putin finance the enemy of his favorite Prime Minister in the EU?
http://www.intellinews.com/putin-meets-orban-for-the-eighth-time-in-seven-years-127933/

>>140241022
I miss Red Panels so much...

if you knew what the kikes in ukraine are doing to it's own people and it's brothers you would be a russian shill to

that is brutal honesty btw, if you had any clue the level of terrorism ukraine employs you would hate that nation above all other nations. it bombs the civilian homes of places that legally and democratically voted for things that go against their narrative.

imagine washington laying out florida or texas for voting trump. that is what ukraine does routinely and none of it ever gets talked about. ever. I live here in donbass and see it every day, they murder our children in cold blood to make sure we never rise up again. why don't any of you care or help? is the soviet levels of propaganda in your countries deluded you this badly? fuck man

>>140230917
The Ukraine literally means "Borderland". It's the fertile breadbasket of Russia and has been for many centuries.
The Ukraine isn't a nation. It's a false state set up in 1991.
>>140232187
Lmao this shit again.

>>140259754
>Mountain Kraut
Alps apes.