Clearing up what the DACA is and isn't

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>>140221837
Trump wants to deport this
apologize!

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>>140221837
It has to go back.

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>>140221837

>>140221837
anchor babies are next

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>>140222116

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>>140221837
>>140222116
>>140222173

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>>140221837
Commiefornia never disappoints.

>>140222243
>O-our ancestors were here first!
Then stay the fuck in California and taxes

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>>140221837
Undocumented Citizen
>Illegal Alien
Undocumented Citizen
>Illegal Alien
Undocumented Citizen
>Illegal Alien

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Someone needs to check their undocumented privledges

>>140221837
>Clearing up what the DACA is and isn't
DEFERRED ACTION FOR CHILDHOOD ARRIVALS. In other words, it is special privileges for illegal spic invaders just because they happened to be brought in by their law-breaking parents.

THROW OUT ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS. KILL THEM ON SIGHT IF THEY BREAK IN AGAIN. YOU ARE AN ARMY OF GENOCIDAL INVADERS AND YOU MUST BE DRIVEN OUT AND KEPT OUT.

DACA must go away and it WILL go away.

>>140221975
Perfect time to deport.
Who do you think is going to pay for these babies? American babies if born here. Deport and Mexico pays.

>>140221837

>do not qualify for federal aid

Implying you don't have fake IDs and SS numbers just to get around in society?

>pay taxes

Even an illegal cartel worker beheading people for a living "pays taxes" when he buys a coke to refresh after a day of skinning teenagers.

The amount of untaxed work and under the table work of illegals is staggeringly high for reasons that should be obvious. How the fuck can you argue you're illegally in a country but somehow also able to live a normal life and pay taxes "like everyone else"?

It doesn't make any sense.

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>>140222243
Found this on the UC-Berkley site. They are actively helping criminals.

>>140223112
California gives them IDs to qualify for state financial aid too. That's probably where 90% of them are

>>140221837
It stands for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals.
That is CHILDREN
These full grown adults have been living through a legal loophole and haven't bothered to acquire legal residency because they didn't face any consequences.
Now that there might be actual repercussions for breaking the law, its suddenly sooo haard to get a green card.

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>Alvarez

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>>140222243
The states with the most DACAs offer aid.

>>140221975
send them over here, we are not racist like you :3

>>140223744
kys

>>140223744
>ID : fEnpVal
awww, so cute, fempai <3

I feel bad for law abiding DACA people

>>140223255
>UC Berkeley
>Helping criminals
Imagine my motherfucking shock.

>>140224074
>law abiding
>illegal

>>140224228
Wasn't their fault, it was their parents fault

>>140224298
They're adults now and are responsible for their choice to remain in this country illegally.

>>140224298
Struggling Americans should come first. Going back to your own country isn't the worst thing that can happen.

>>140222385
They're also forgetting their ancestors where also Spaniards as well, their entire race is a mixture of the natives and the Spanish

>>140222116
If it's temporary, when are they leaving?

>>140222116
She's full of shit.

You cannot pay taxes or own a home without a green card. If you pay taxes and own a home, you have whats called Permanent Resident status, which is one step below citizenship and basically states you're OK to stay here.

>>140222116
>there is no pathway to citizenship

But, there is...

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>we undocumented residents

Someone calls ICE please ;)

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>>140221837

Repealing DACA will...

Make

Mexico

Great

Again

>>140221837
I'm pretty conservative myself but deporting illegal anchor babies and undocumented children back to a 3rd world country is pretty much signing their death warrant. Not sure how I feel about DACA desu. More DACA or less DACA?

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>>140224842
you are retarded.
half of my ex gf's family was undocumented and they owned homes as well as payed taxes.
is /pol/ this uneducated about this shit or what?

>>140222173
>Ciriac Alvarez
ecks dee ecks dee
Do you pronounce this like Cirôc? or like Celiac's?

The only perk they get is being far enough south of the border to be out of range.

>>140225391
If their parents cared about their kids they'd go back with them. OR PERHAPS NOT PUT THEM IN THIS AWKWARD POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE.

>>140225228
Proof? I'm not aware of any process in which illegal immigrants can apply for citizenship
>>140224842
Green card owners aren't us citizens.

>>140225788
Yeah the parents are stupid, but why should the kids be punished? Are you liable for your parents debts if they pass on before paying it?

>>140225536
SEE rrree ahk

>>140224842
Social Security fraud

>>140225458
you're better than that, anon. it's the principal that matters here.

there has to be rule of law: negative consequences to breaking the law and positive benefits to obeying the law. an undocumented person who owns a home and pays taxes is not a legal citizen of the country no matter what they contribute to society. they aren't exempt from laws they've broken because of things they do right.

>>140221987
fucking gold

>>140225391
MORE DAKKA
WAAAAGH

>>140226127
>Are you liable for your parents debts if they pass on before paying it?
Sometimes.

>why should the kids be punished?
because they're adults now and because they're brown

>>140225458
>half of my ex gf's family was undocumented and they owned homes as well as payed taxes.

Unless you saw an actual pay stub from these people, I don't buy it. Sounds like you are a gullible moron who believes anything people tell you.

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>>140221837
What DACA is: beaners in the US who shouldn't be.

>>140222139
Should be first. Future Anchor babies then past anchor babies

>>140226127

It's not punishment, it's justice. You break the law = you face the consequences.

>>140226497
I can only get so erect, don't tease me.

>>140226149
i'm not defending them, im just surprised how little a lot of you here actually know about daca and the illegals you guys are apparently so redpilled about.

>>140226369
you are genuinely stupid if you believe this my friend.
some illegals qualify to get a social security card and use it for their jobs.
and where do you think some of them have been living here for the past 15 years? they're not gonna be renting all that time.
i know some of them that have even paid off their houses.

>inb4 RINO cuckservative
i'm not defending them. mexico as a whole would be much better off if they were deported, and even they know this. a lot of the times it's the anchor babies that prevent them from just going back on their own accord.

>>140226543
Like I said, the parents deserve a bus trip back to their Homeland, but the kid, assuming they were young in age or born here, couldn't be reasonably held accountable for existing in what they think is a normal situation.

Would compulsory military service be a fitting "punishment" for DREAMers?

>>140221837

Report her to ICE. I already did.

>>140221837
None of you guys actually believe Trump is going to deport these people, right? There's a reason he's deferring 6 months and that's so Congress can pass a law giving the, official status.

If Congress fails, which is likely given their current success rate, Trump can then forget about it and let it go back to the way it was.

The other reason he's deferring is because he doesn't actually want to do this, but he realizes he's losing you guys by the hundreds for failing to deliver on anything. So he's hoping the shiny object will work, and so far so good. You guys are buying it.

>>140226750
>what they think is a normal situation.
THEY KNOW ITS NOT NORMAL

>>140224842
So, you've never worked for a living or gotten a paycheck, huh? The only retard here is you.

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Trump = genius

I saw a lot of illegals at the AntiFag meetings...

>this: (i) In general.-Any immigrant who is or has been a member of or affiliated
with the Communist or any other totalitarian party (or subdivision or affiliate
thereof), domestic or foreign, is inadmissible

Sauce: https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-29/0-0-0-2006.html#0-0-0-202

Mwahahahah absolutely subversive!

>>140226740
Even as a legal citizen you can elect a tax withholding rate of 0. You literally have seen 0 evidence to believe they actually paid any taxes. Same with renting. They told you they pay property tax so you bought it, did you actually see any physical evidence they did it? Considering the attitude you're copping here I'm 100% sure you did not. Someone told you they did and you took their word for it.

You are the idiot here, not me.

>>140226910
Yeah, when they're old enough to be "conscious" but still unable to provide for themselves.

>>140222939
>YOU ARE AN ARMY OF GENOCIDAL INVADERS
>the irony

>>140225458
Why are you lying on the internet about disgusting illegals?

>never had a gf
>they don't pay taxes
>they shouldn't be allowed to own homes as non citizens

Why are you such a sympathizing lying nigger?

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>>140226810
>but he realizes he's losing you guys by the hundreds for failing to deliver on anything
> failing to deliver on anything

oh my sweet television-fed ignorant child

>>140226444
What DACA is: one of Obama's plans to put a million foreigners into our highest institutions so they can forward his anti-"colonial" agenda

>>140225927
Owning a green card for five years is the main way to apply for citizenship.
t. I did it

>>140226750
Sending back is not a punishment for committing a crime.
It's enforcing US Immigration law dipshit

>>140222116
>temporary relief.

Well, time's up.

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>>140221837

Report them all to ICE. I reported her, the group of illegals she is in, her family, and the illegals commenting on her page. They gotta go back.

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>>140221837

*argument invalid* illegals leech off public tax payer funds. Many legal students are low income and might not have access to even some of these funds as it is limited amd taken away by illegals.

My captcha is a sign of the times. Illegals should go back to where the sign points them to.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-immigration-california/california-allows-college-aid-to-illegal-immigrants-idUSTRE7971SK20111008

>>140225458
If they paid taxes without legal work status, then they did it with a stolen Social Security Number and this causes a lot of problems for the honest American they stole it from.

>>140226750
>Would training them in US military weapons and tactics be a fitting "punishment" for DREAMers?
Fuck that, they should all be executed.

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>>140226992
dude...
go into any tax place and ask them...
there's dozens of mexican tax preparation businesses in cali, illinois, and texas, specifically for undocumented people. are you trying to argue that they don't own homes? they do...

>>140227198
listen faggot larper, i've done more to make this country whiter than you or the millions of sperm cells you've wasted fapping to kike propaganda ever could've. why the fuck would i be lying about shit that's as simple as looking up?

>>140227436

wait, you mean there's a way to become a citizen legally so you don't have to grovel and beg like a spoiled millennial?

>>140227584
>Sending a person raised in a developed country back to the 3rd world because some traitorous lawmakers and Gen X/millennials wanted to virtue signal

Sounds like a good idea

>>140226992
You're a dumb faggot anon and I hope you kill yourself.

>>140227436
Yes, this however implies you have been selected through the immigration process. I was talking about those in the DACA program. I have not seen any information presented to illegal immigrants on applying for citizenship. I also do not know if said legal channels are available for said illegal, if anything Obama put this particular category of people in a really complicated position that congress needs to resolve or deportation.

>>140226750
>Would compulsory military service be a fitting "punishment" for DREAMers?

fuck no

last thing the military needs is a bunch of knuckle dragging shit bags who dont want to be there

>>140227650
you guys don't seem to understand that a lot of them actually qualify to get real social security numbers...

>>140227760
>dude...
>go into any tax place and ask them...
>there's dozens of mexican tax preparation businesses in cali, illinois, and texas, specifically for undocumented people. are you trying to argue that they don't own homes? they do...

Not even one argument I made you addressed. Make an effort here, neanderballs.

You never saw physical evidence of them paying taxes, so far you have admitted to this yourself. Yet we're supposed to believe because you "know a girl who knows a guy" who pays taxes, that means that illegals are not a drain on tax revenue.

Your case is literally made of toilet paper and shit.

>>140227436
I hope you get deported.

>>140227925
weird, they also qualify to be deported.

tough choice tho

>>140222116
Why would I want to support them getting scholarships that could have gone to Americans?

>>140223744
Trying to outcuck the Canadians Hans?

>>140221837
>We add to social security
By using stolen numbers

>>140225391
Hyperbole does not add to any reasoned discussion of facts.
>tweets are for hyperbole
Only ACTUAL facts lend to honest discussion
>not fakets you regressive minded use to supplant facts (ironically, you wasted your chance to American education your mind).

>>140227624
lol

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>>140226750
Absolutely not. There's enough fucking retards in the military as is. If anything, the military need to step up the enlistment and commissioning standards. I mean just look at what happened with those two Navy ships crashing into cargo ships, that was a combination of poor working conditions and diversity hires. If necessary, put the spics in the reserves, but absolutely do not put the lives of American soldiers at risk from the sheer incompetence and stupidity most illegal aliens show.

>muh money

fuck off spic

>>140221837
>I "DESERVE" to be here because I worked hard
You broke federal immigration law and were saved by reckless usage of executive orders. You deserve nothing and are prattling off a list of hamfisted benefits arbitrarily applied to illegals. Congraulations, you can own a home or go to college, as an American from birth, what makes these people believe they can simply walk into my country and demand these things of us? If I did this in any other country, I would deported, instantly. Where does this entitlement end?

>>140226127
If your parent robs a bank do you get to keep the money?

>>140227996
since you apparently can't read, i'm gonna have to guess you might be a nigger larping.
i never said they aren't a drain on the economy.
i'm saying that they pay taxes, literally look it up. regardless if you want all of them to be deported, which i get, they still pay taxes...
you want me to fucking call my ex and ask for her dad's tax return???

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>>140225458
>>140221837

ILLEGAL = ILLEGAL

THROW THIS BITCH TO MEXICO

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>>140224298
Dinduu...

>¿How many illegal chilrens and anchor babies is California. Educating currently?

>>140228050
it's not tough, the country is just incompetent.
there's already 1 million deportation orders ongoing, why does ICE not put even a dent on that number?

>>140225458
If they paid taxes then the feds kbew where they lived. So why weren't they deported?

>>140222173
>defineamerican
A country that has laws you fucking spic.

>>140225458
Did they put any effort to become documented? So they have enough money and time for a house...? this smells like bait. Either way it's universal to not give two fucks about someone that doesnt want to help themself so take your libtard shit and shove it up your ass cause all this virtual signalling is all talk. Plus how the fuck do you even know they payed all taxes?? Lol you need to listen to Peterson about lying, it's not good for you desu.

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>>140228552
How many illegals is California currently incarcerating?

>cost of illegal immigration (partial cost, because Healthcare, infrastructure stress, food stamps daycare .....)

>>140222116
>we do not choose to be undocumented
Yes you do, by jumping a fence instead of going through the red tape and paperwork like everyone else.

>white people: "Why should I feel back, I didn't own any slaves! I'm not guilty for what my ancestors did!."
>white people: "They have to go back! Sure they were kids but their parents broke the law and they knew it!."

>>140222173
The whole arguement for DACA seems to be "I benefitted from someone else breaking the law, therefor I should no be punished.

These aren't arguments. They're non-sequitors.

>>140228878
gay and paid

>>140228878
In the second scenario the parents are at fault, not white people.

>>140228635
see here
>>140228573
ICE is incompetent.

>>140228667
some of them do, idk? i didn't care to ask. i'm not baiting anything, i'm just trying to understand why all of you don't know enough about this when you spam about this kind of shit all day. i couldn't care less if they get deported. and i'm sure even they don't either, it's the anchor babies that make them stay here. and where in my posts am i virtue signaling??

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>>140228635
Because 0bama

>>140228421
>i never said they aren't a drain on the economy.

Correct. You said that they can pay taxes, and offered 0 evidence that they actually do so.

>literally look it up.

Complete cop-out. I'm arguing with you numbnuts. If you can't even support your position that means you are holding on no logical basis. Telling me to find an argument for you is literally admitting you have no argument.

Are you sure that's what you want to do?

>regardless if you want all of them to be deported, which i get, they still pay taxes...

Which you have still, even at this juncture, failed to prove in any way whatsoever. Other than you know a person who knows a person who totally pays taxes. Yea, that's not evidence. That's you being full of shit.

>you want me to fucking call my ex and ask for her dad's tax return???

That would be a good start. Why don't you do that?

>>140229031
>make a bold statement that is most likely false
>man idk stop being mean to illegals!
Most illegals get paid in cash, meaning the only tax they ever pay is sales tax. This is a gigantic issue for the country, as it essentially amounts to modern slavery.
Stop being a cuck faggot.

>>140225391
>deporting illegal anchor babies and undocumented children back to a 3rd world country is pretty much signing their death warrant

What? No it isn't. Life is probably a bit shittier there, but it's not like famine-stricken Somalia. The average income in Latin America is like 10k/yr. Factor in cheaper cost of goods and the fact that they're probably way more educated than the average person there and they'll be just fine.

>>140226183
whats even better is that image is pre-election

>>140222116
BYYYYEEE

>>140229084
>>140229593
you people are literally autistic and subverted by t_d.

https://itep.org/wp-content/uploads/ITEP-2017-Undocumented-Immigrants-State-and-Local-Contributions.pdf

do you even know what an ITIN is, retard?
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/general-itin-information

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>>140222173
>currently working
>got a better paying job
Jobs that could have gone to American citizens. How do they even think this is a good argument in their favor? They are literally admitting to taking our jobs.

>>140222173

>defend and extend

REPORT AND DEPORT

>>140224298
If my father robs a bank and gives me the money that doesn't mean I get to keep the money.

>>140225391
Anchor babies will never be deported. No matter how much pol hates them, they're currently american citizens (thus they're calle "anchor" part) and even if Trump manages to end birthright citizenship (unlikely in itself) this wouldn't affect them because the law can't retroactively make something illegal. Art. 1 sec. 9.
>No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed

>>140229831
From your own source:
>Individuals must have a filing requirement and file a valid federal income tax return to receive an ITIN

Both the filing requirement and a "valid federal income tax return" is what I'm disputing. You have still staunchly refused to provide any evidence of such a thing existing, and at this point it's clear you would rather talk about something totally irrelevant than actually make an effort to secure some evidence.

Call your ex already and get some proof or shut the fuck up.

>>140227996
Hi, there. Illegal alien dating white guy here. My girl pays more in taxes than I do. I see all her check stubs, I see her car tax bill and her property tax bill. She is using her fathers dependent identification card for social security number since he came here legally and had to claim dependents. She came here to take care of him because he was dying. The only people that don't pay taxes are people that hang outside of Home Depot waiting to be picked up by contractors and/or contractors themselves who work under the table with little to no advertisement and most of their employers are also Latino. The vast majority are stuck at the same job since they can't seek new employment because of e verify and most employers aren't willing to trade up a hard working beaner for some lazy fuck gringo that whines about how hard the job is, which most Americans do. If it weren't for beaners I'd not have any employees, because most Americans are too fucking soft and pampered. If you work in a private or public company, you pay taxes of some form. I'm not sure why you think most illegals don't pay taxes.

>>140230947
>I'm not sure why you think most illegals don't pay taxes.

It's called having an evidence-based standard. So far I have seen nothing but anecdotes and reductionism to suggest they are actually paying these taxes. And what do you know, you've brought precisely 0 evidence to the table and done nothing but shown you hate actual citizens anyway. I don't give fuck about your opinion, sorry.

>>140230947
Maybe you should pay employees a living wage instead of hiring slave labor beaners.
>she's pays more taxes than me
>I hire people
LARP better faggot.

>>140228552
and we can save 9200.00 * (<number of undoc>) a year by not having them here and watching them go to prison after we educate them to a 9th grade level. Then we save all the money on not sending them to prison because they are not here in the first fucking place.

>>140230947
>I see her car tax bill
Spoken like a 14 year old ... has gf that moved here to take care of dying father.
fishy fucking fishy

>>140222116
>temporary

Well, there it is. Goodbye.

>>140224298
Its in gods plan.

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>>140230947
Allow me to translate :
>I don't hire Americans because of all the legal victories labor has had putting in safeguards for workers like overtime, breaks, workplace safety, and the like. By hiring illegals, I skirt the law and demolish all standards for employees in the workforce.

Kys traitor

>>140221837
How do you pay taxes when you officially don't even exist?

>>140228878
Paid and fake

>>140235263
Good point.
I thought their whole crybaby supporters mantra was
>bring them out of the Shadows. It's humane fampai
Liars every time with their TED Talk double speak bullshit. Their backwards speak.

>>140228878
The kids were also committing a crime by being here illegally and staying illegally

>>140227996
I think you are focusing more on that guy's personal account rather than the bigger picture. The fact that tax preparation services exist for illegal immigrants is evidence that they pay taxes.

>>140227760
>there's dozens of mexican tax preparation businesses in cali, illinois, and texas, specifically for undocumented people. are you trying to argue that they don't own homes? they do...
>>140227760
>there's dozens of mexican tax preparation businesses in cali, illinois, and texas, specifically for undocumented people. are you trying to argue that they don't own homes? they do...

>>140227760
However, I live in the Central Valley in CA and have yet to see a tax preparation service for illegals, so I call bull shit.

>>140237983
>The fact that tax preparation services exist for illegal immigrants is evidence
Anon btfo

>>140222173
Gibs taken from the hands of natural americans

>>140221975

>ywn have a qt illegal Mexican gf to pump a baby into and then call immigration on

>>140222116
>there is no pathway to citizenship
but there is....you'd just have to leave to take it

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Fake news.

>>140238271
Did you not see where I called bullshit?

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>>140221837
Yeah, I don't know why Trump is doing this either. My suspicion is that he's been getting a lot of heat this week over Russia, and needs to keep his BASE happy, so he's feeding the most vulnerable in our society to them to keep them happy and divert attention from Trump-Moscow Tower. It really lessens my opinion of him however, as no respectable man would attack literally the most vulnerable in our society.

>>140239231
If DACA recipients are so highly educated then they're hardly the most vulnerable

Pick one and stick with it

>>140226127
If I sneak into disneyland w/ my kid and they find out, what do you think happens?

>>140239405
>Pick one and stick with it
It's much more complicated than that asshole, and are very much vulnerable because of their legal status and Trump's just being an asshole taking what safety these ppl have so they can build up their skill stack while they are still young and in a place of opportunity

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>>140221837
Why do citizens of other countries feel entitled to the resources/opportunity of the USA?

>>140228878
I don't feel bad because I'm proud of slavery nigger

Let's cut through all the bullshit. If you support the invasion of your country you're a traitor.

>>140227136
we have firsthand knowlege of what happens when a people allows unchecked waves of migration into their lands. we are living proof that it is a bad idea

>>140225391
Mexico is not third world. We call it third world as a meme because the West is the best, but you're fucking joking if you think Mexico is a shithole. It's a little shittier than Turkey, Iran, Cuba, Malaysia, Uruguay and Russia, but it's better than the world average, Colombia, Egypt, Indonesia, Philippines, India, Ukraine, Brazil and China. Would you also be against deporting people to Brazil or China?

>>140239662
You have to go back you taconigger.

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>>140240548
nope. But, i can see your dehumanization mechanism kicking in. We all have it resting within us. Some of us are both much more predisposed and unable to control it at the same time.

>>140222173
100% need to go back

>>140239696
Because they don't believe in borders. They also don't believe there's any difference between the sexes or races. They think the whole world is full of putty people and any country who's better off either got lucky or stole goods from other countries.

Their argument has a grain of truth to it. To them, they did nothing to deserve being born in a mediocre country and nobody in great countries did anything to deserve being born there. The countries were made by people who came before us. Even if you use the logic that there are competent people in the US who employ incompetent people to earn more money, for them, an incompetent Mexican is just as good as an incompetent American, so why shouldn't they have a chance to be employed?

What they fail to realize, because they've been brainwashed, is that we are all very much so different, and Mexico is mediocre because Mexicans are mediocre. If the best thing you can think to do for your country is steal another country's wealth, then maybe you're part of the problem.

>>140221837
Just got to wondering. You think any of these DACA recipients brought here for corporate labor at a young age, being sent back to a country and a life they've "never known", might actually have been victims of trafficking?

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>>140241675
The problem is things like laws, taxes, and even down to being one more jalopy driving in traffic in front of me. Think of a border like a cell. The cellular membrane is a large part of what goes on within the cell, regulating influx and egress, and keeping things "right" within it. What happens when a hole is put in the membrane?

>>140235263
california has so many taxes that they tax people who they can't even keep track of legally

>>140225458

>>140222173

Illegal aliens and their "allies" tried very hard to establish that it's "racist" to enforce and defend a border and spurred people to beat white people for attending political rallies, among other tactics.

If that were THE ONLY REASON to repeal DACA and restrict as much immigration as possible (particularly from Mexico), it would be justified.

>>140223255

Berkeley was a mistake

>>140227911
Also the military has recently had a problem with gangsters and cholos joining the military to learn military tactics then using them on the streets

>>140222116
>Enters America illegally
>Becomes completely fluent in English
>Never tried at all to get citizenship under the Obama years

I fucking hate these people, demanding an entire nation of people who are here properly cater to her needs.

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>>140227639
FORUM CRIT!!
sides orbitall

>>140242834
It's even worse than that. They don't believe in being American, because they surround themselves with liberal shitheads who are themselves brainwashed by the anti-American school system and media. They don't care about this country, at all. They just see it as a place to make money and they can die a Mexican.

What's more, if we look at IQ data, somewhere between 18-21% of them fall below the line of competence, which is a burden we should feel zero obligation to take on, and somewhere between one third to one tenth as many above the gifted line as white people. If there are 10 million illegal immigrants in America (it's likely much higher than that), that's 2 million people who are unfit for anything but welfare, for less than a million people who can actually further the country.

America is also a country that already threatens the Pareto distribution. We have close to 350,000,000 people now and the only two countries with more people are shitholes and part of the reason is they have too many people. People talk about the dangers of "big government" because they think the government is dangerous, but it's actually the "big" part that's the most threatening. Anything that's "big" breeds corruption and forces competent people to carry more and more incompetent people on their back.

>>140224842
Yes you can retard. Everyone has to pay taxes, if you don't have a SSN then you get an ITIN. Regardless the government gets their share from everyone.

>>140245617
>for less than a million people who can actually further the country.
I actually did the math in my head quickly and forgot to divide the percentage by 100, and so I said this, and it's true, but what I should've said was
>for less than 10,000 people who can actually further the country.

>>140227650
Look up ITIN. You don't need an SSN to pay taxes. You get a return with SSN but just for payment all you need is an ITIN.

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>>140221837
>>140222116
>>140222173
>WHY WON"T YOU LET ME REMAIN A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN!

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>>140222243
God a hate liberals. You see where the graphic has the numbers "in thousands", they couldn't just type out the extra 3 zeros and make it obvious that there are 223,000 of these fuckers in California?!?!