No nukes, No allies, Who wins?

We wouldn't stand a chance. Why is this even a thread?

>>140205760
Whats the red flag. Turkey?

Britain because they have the best opium

>>140205760
What year?

>>140206281
It's 1839-1860 all over again, Chang

Britain

China has 0 force projection outside of the South China Sea

China's infrastructure is so shit you literally need to carpet bomb some dams and you kill millions of people automatically

>>140206360
There will be revenge one day. Just you wait !!!

>>140205760
The only scenario where Britain could possibly win is if they were on the defensive and China was trying to invade Britain itself, but even then, a "victory" would be like Vietnam's victory over the USA, simply making it too costly for the enemy to continue the war.

>>140205760
The UK could deploy a preemptive strike or trying to blitzkrieg thanks to the superior equipment, but in the long run China has the upper hand by far.
Brits don't have the resources to overwhelm China.

>>140205809
China's military is a joke.

>>140205809
China
>lots of money
>lots of people, tanks and aircraft
>little force projection
>inexperienced armed forces
>much more nationalist populace
UK
>regarded as one of best trained and experienced army/navy
>small forces
>weaker economy
>lots of bases around the world
>meh navy
>army built like an expeditionary force, has won wars far from home before

>>140206240
China

>>140206531
So are yours, m8. This ain't the glory days of the Empire anymore.

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>>140206628
We have the strongest navy in the world, we literally rule the waves. Don't delude yourself

>>140206628
Recalls when Nazi Germany got BTFO during the Battle of Britain by this little amazing technology called RADAR

>>140205760

It's a dumb comparison, because the UK would not get in such a situation. They'd call upon all their allies and Shekelmasters (NWO, UN, World Bank). China has no real friends.

>>140206425

Nah China-man, it will be thousands of more years of humiliation and the disintegration of your communist empire.

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>>140205760
>lend lease

>>140206425
I look forward to it my friend

>>140206841
Thats all well and good senpai but we have less carriers than fucking ITALY

>>140205760
Pakistan is a Chinese ally

>>140206841
You do realize panjeet btfod your navy in the 70 and we were Hella poor back then

>>140207488
so one more generation and Britanistan and China are allies

>>140207553
didnt UK own you for a hundred years

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LET'S FUCKING GO I WANNA SPEAR ME SOME CHINK SHIT! TIME TO REBOOT THE EMPIRE!

Well Britain can't invade China. I mean whatever small army they sent over would be crushed.

China initially could not land a sufficiently large force but they have a huge industrial capacity like the US in WW2 so they could build enough ships pretty quick. Also in the UK mudslimes and niggers would start to riot when they stop getting gibs because of war spending.

So China wins.

>>140207910
You destroyed the summer palace so china will destroy westminster and the queen will be raped.

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>>140208031

>>140207553
Your navy is a joke

http://www.paluba.info/smf/index.php?topic=17897.0;wap2

>>140206382
fucking lol
>one sas soldier kills 6 gorillian changs by putting a biscuit it some device inside the dam

>>140206841
> British frigate fleet to lack anti-ship missiles until ‘around 2030’

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/british-frigate-fleet-lack-anti-ship-missiles-around-2030/

The Navy is a joke. The airforce is tiny. The army is even smaller.

>>140205760
We would be steamrolled within a week.

>>140207944
Pajeets would help Britain. India is China's enemy

>>140206531
Aside from your Special forces and Spies you guys wouldn't be likely to win toe to toe with any comparable power.
Your gears to old and about 5 countries have overtaken you.
Shit I don't even like your odds 1v1 with Argentina.

>>140210046
The parameters are "no allies".

>>140205760
Britain

>>140210223
You clearly haven't been in Britain

hard to say, it depends on of the brits manage to stop the chinese to leave china or not

>>140205760
China has no force projection. They can't invade the UK by land or sea.

The UK has force projection but not enough to overwhelm China.

Our subs would clear the south China sea of the plan. We might get a few tomahawks into dams, power stations and airfields but that's it.

China would be too powerful to overcome in a full invasion.

Again China could not invade the UK.

Shit thread really.

>>140211286
So the UK wins.

Clear the south china sea, blockade it and watch as their oil starved economy grinds to a halt. Then retake Hong Kong.

The hundreds of thousands of German workers after the end of their work tend their gardens. And, generally, we see today that millions of people cannot imagine living without some sort of occupation.
When I said that this process represents a slow but perhaps also the greatest of all revolutions in human history, then one must assume that also this revolution had to have a cause, and this cause was the greatest Goddess of this Earth, the one who is able to whip men to the uttermost – the Goddess of Hardship.
We can see this hardship in early prehistory, above all in the northern part of the world, in those enormous ice deserts where only the meagrest existence was possible. Here, men were forced to fight for their existence, for things which were, in the smiling South, available without work, and in abundance. In those times man made perhaps his first groundbreaking discovery: In those cold stretches man was forced to find a substitute for the only gift of Heaven which makes life possible – the Sun. And the man who produced the first artificial sparks later appeared to Humanity as a god – Prometheus, the fire-bringer. The North forced men to further activity – production of clothes, building of abodes. First, it was simple caves, later huts and houses. In short, he created a principle, the principle of work. Life would not have been possible without it.
Although work was still simple, it had already to be planned beforehand and each individual knew that if he has not done his part, he will die of hunger in the coming winter. At the same time another development followed – the terrible hardship became a means for breeding of a race. Whoever was weak or sickly could not survive the terrible winter period and died prematurely. What remained was a race of strong and healthy giants.

>>140210849
The Royal Navy are pretty much useless at this point. It has

> 19 frigates (with zero anti-ship missiles)
> 10 submarines (4 nuclear)
> 3 amphibious/helicopter platforms
> 1 destroyer (lol)
> 0 (active) carriers
> 0 air capability
> various dinghies

PLAN has

> 66 amphibious/helicopter platforms
> 51 frigates (with actual functioning weapons)
> 36 destroyers
> 35 corvettes
> 2 active! carriers
> 10 submarines (5 nuclear)
> others

China would slap our shit.

>>140205760
we went from on tiny island to invading 90% of the planet, size means nothing, its all about heart and giving your life to a greater cause, the Chinese will never have the pride we have, 10 to 1 and we will still prevail for Britannia's glory

>>140212187
> heart
> implying the cuckolds who inhabit this place have any heart left

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>>140212365
>mfw i just realised our country men are either fat builders, chavs or 3rd worlders who hate the country more than any foreign state could
>mfw these are our"nations pride" now

>>140208966
This is amazing to read! Thanks bong

>>140213127

These 3rd worlders also outcompete the native born in your schools.

My, my, how the British have fallen. It almost makes me feel contempt for them, they were once the indisputably best civilisation on the planet. What incompetence is required for you to so greatly fuck up your nation? Now what is left of you?

A collection of NEETs, degenerate youth, cucked middle class, and foreigners.

Is there any hope?

>>140213877
*native Brits in your schools.

>>140213877
Nothing short a violent revolution will cleanse Britain now. The rot is too deep.

>>140206425
>>140206360
Hey just for a little bit can we be considered part of the "United Kingdoms?"

>>140213877
>What incompetence is required for you to so greatly fuck up your nation?
It took (((intent))) m8.

>>140213877
it's just proof that the bigger you are the harder you fall. on that account, watch your back, yanks

>>140205760
>Number of wars China has won = 0

All we have to do is destroy PLA's navy and blockade country. Easy victory.

>>140205760
Britain wins the battle(s)
China wins the war (1.4 billion bodies)

>>140213877
>These 3rd worlders also outcompete the native born in your schools.

This was by design. You have to live here to understand how downtrodden the white working class is, particularly males. Demonized at every opportunity and viewed with contempt by every section of society, especially the middle class.

The middle class, which now comprises a great deal of non-whites, absolutely detests the white working class, and views any shortcomings as self-inflicted. Even when all of the opportunities are being handed over to minority groups, they still view the minorities as victims and campaign relentlessly for them to be given more benefits, more opportunites, more advantages.

If you want a window into the mind of the vast majority of the middle class in England, go read the guardian. Seriously, they need to be purged.

>>140205760
China will win
https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=china&country2=united-kingdom&Submit=COMPARE

>>140215483
Stats mean nothing when you have no previous experience in combat. Also I wouldn't trust those figures as the PLA is known to exaggerate military capability.

>>140215279

It is quite something. According to the sources I've read, the top three achievers be ethnicity at age 5 are:

Chinese
White/Asian
White

However, as time goes on whites get progressively worse. By mid-teens, they're at double-digit positions.

This may imply that the system is keeping them down, however this pattern is also somewhat true for US blacks.

I'm honestly unsure of how you can redeem your nation. In previous times, civilisations fell, but rarely were they genocided as a result of such.

If we take the modern Japanese as such, their numbers will fall, but safely contained within their borders this will not result in a downwards trend as minorities make it continually harder for them to reproduce as the leach the Middle Class's earnings via welfare. Absolute numbers of Japanese will go down, but Japan will still be ~100% Japanese.

*by ethnicity
*they leach

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>>140205760
Let's look at the form:

Opium War 1: British win
Opium War 2: British win
Battle of the Bogue: British win
Battle of Taku Forts: British win
Battle of Ningpo: British win
Battle of Chinhai: British win
Burma Campaign: British win
Battle of Chinkiang: British win
Battle of Chuenpi 1: British win
Battle of Chuenpi 2: British win
Battle of the Hook: British win
Capture of Chusan: British win
Battle of Canton: British win
Battle of Woosung: British win
Battle of Tzeki: British win
Battle of Whampoa: British win
Battle of First Bar: British win

So Britain is 18 for 0 in dust ups with the Chinese.

Depends on the terms of victory. If we're fighting for conquest, we're fucked. If we're fighting in some small island in the Pacific, maybe we have a chance.

The UK's strategy for war is to hold out on their tiny island until America comes to save them. Same thing with yurop.

>>140205760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw1jHWHDXvc

>>140216784
>makes low quality bait posts whilst hiding behind a meme flag

What a pathetic existance. Have a pity (You)

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>>140216784

>>140205760
That war would last sooooooo stupidly long. Look at the distance and logistics involved. Ridiculous. Eventually China might win, after 100 years.

Include the entire british empire, which includes Australia, New Zealand, and Canada and we'd win. Just take a look at our geological advantage and natural resources, on top of our superior white race intellect, and we'll win.

>>140205760
>china threatens to call in US debt
>US mysteriously declares war seperatly on UK with some retarded 200 year old casus belli
Not exactly allies so I think this is okay.

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>>140206281
>>140206425
U want sum opium? We sell, good price!

>>140206841
No, you don't. Stop being a retard.

>>140215279
Displaced
Replaced
Erased

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>>140214807
>implying we haven't fallen just about as hard already
I mean for fuck's sake my hometown is trying to tear down statues of it's founder because he was raayciss, all our women are alcoholic sluts by the time they turn 18, cities are total hellholes overrun by degenerates and communists

>>140212187
Yeah whatevr LMFAO

>>140217312
We'll be fine, we'll just dangle some £10 bag of heroin in front of the Chinese military and they'll chill out and then kill themselves for bringing dishonour on the family.

It's all good! Relax.

>mfw we're all fucked
Hug? No homo hug.

>>140215279
>middle class
No, mate. London middle class and their wannabes in Norwich, Bruminham etc. All of whom were not enough to outvote country middle class.

t. Islingtonian

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>china
>winning in any conventional war

LMAO

>>140205760
>China doesn't do anything for 20 years
>The United Caliphate collapses by itself

>>140217467
>t. Islingtonian
You have my sympathies, u want sum opium? I sell good price!

>>140217586
Only if it's organic, is second one for 1p at Holland & Barrett, and really integrates with the Feng Shui

>>140217467
Caledonian rd is such a shithole now

>inb4 it was always a shithole

>>140217425
no homo hug?, we're about to get our ass kicked by north korea if we don't do something, they keep sharpening their stick and if we don't get them before they get us an american city will be destroyed, but if we attack them, china will go after us which means the U.K. will be in a war against china along with australia

>>140205809
Their logistics are a fucking joke. I remember reading a defence review that effectively concluded that so long as any war didn't take place on mainland China, we'd win.

Chinese are Nationalist-Racialist-Machist in their minds and in their hearts. Yes they have many flaws and can be shallow and materialistic as hell, but when it comes to standing up to their "tribe" they become altruist to the core.

In a war that depended in spirit of soldiers the Chinese would completely destroy UK because UK is Internationalist-Egalitarian-Feminist, weak nihilistic and feminine values.

Same goes for all of Europe.

>>140205760
On the one hand Great Britain is kind of at a historic low point. On the other hand, China has been constantly getting their asses kicked by numerically inferior foes for the last 500 years. Given past performance, gotta give the edge to the Brits.

>>140217920
when does china ever win a war? all of their military equipment is copies of united states equipment except made by knockoff chink companies so they'll more than likely fall apart. hell it was said above you could bomb a dam and kill millions, or you could blockade the china sea and their shitty con-man economy would grind to a stop, then you could hook them on opium again

>>140206451
Vietnam fought off China for a decade in the 1980's. There were a hell of a lot more Chinese troops than U.S. troops and the Vietnamese barely broke a sweat.

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We'd get our arses handed to us but win the last battle.

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silly fuckin gooks never learn

>>140206482
The don't need to overwhelm China. They just have to take out the Politburo and declare them selves rulers. Sam's model Invaders have been using for centuries.