Remember when Muslims in Arab countries were peaceful /pol/?

We were in the middle east for awhile, not just recently. It's not our fault they're retarded sand monkeys

>24.9K retweets 57K likes
Oy gevalt! They're woke!

It was objectively better with the Ba'athists in power.

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They were.

>>140198843

I love the Chomsky train of thought that literally ignores all of history. It's glorious. BRB, hanging myself because people actually think like this.

Yeah it was so peaceful before 600ad.

>>140198843
What an ironic analogy, given the current state of affairs in Europe.

No but wasn't Iran/Iraq pretty democratic and progressive until they had another one of their muh quaran chimpouts?

Britain invaded North america and it looks pretty good desu

Yeah, sure did hate all the bombing we did in the Middle East before 9/11. That's what really drove Al-Qaeda and the Taliban to power.

>DEY WERE GOOD COUNTRIES DEY DINDU NUHIN

>>140198843
No

I do remember times when they killed ENTIRE villages though.....silence doesn't imply peace

>>140199283
*cough* civil war *cough* pretty much the same situation *cough*

>>140198843
yes

fuck Blümpf and fuck white eople

When they were under Turk rule?

>>140199405

>DEY WAS GOIN TO CHURCH ERDAY, DEY WAS GONNA B ASTRONORTS N SHIET

>>140199586

DEY WAS WORKING ON DER GDP

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The Jews did this

>>140198843
It's not stealing if there are no survivors.

>>140198843
*bombs your country* Nothin personnel, kiddo

Why do shitlibs think the military stole resources?

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>>140198843
>when was that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Barbary_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

>>140198843
I read this in the same way I read people doing black man memes.

AYYOO HOL UP
*steals a bike*
SO YOU BE SAYIN
*leaves pregnant girlfriend*
THAT WE WUZ
*drinks purple soda*
KANGZ?

>>140198843
Rememberl when they enslaved North Africa, the East coast of Africa and Spain then tried to do the same to Europe for centuries?

A true religion of peace.

>>140198843
Ah yes, now I realize that the Middle East was always a peaceful place. I just had to forget every single thing I had ever read about its recorded history to come to this conclusion. Holy fuck I am smart now, I'm glad that I fit in with all of the clever folks who think just like me.

>>140199817
You're welcome

>>140198843
>steals natural resources
those sand monkeys weren't using them to begin with. It would have taken them another 1000 years to figure out how to extract them from the ground

>>140200193
Almond activation sequence initiated

>>140200000

>>140198843
Yeah, before Israel occupied territory there and started bombing them with USA

>dey were peaceful b4

Does npbody remember the Abu Nidal Organization and PLO aircraft hijackings, bombings, shootings, etc of the 70s and 80s?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Rome_and_Vienna_airport_attacks

>>140198843
I just *blows up pop concert* don't understand why *runs truck through crowd* the west *rapes European children* is so *brings down twin towers* racist

>>140198843
Remember when *massacres caravans* peaceful Mohammed *slaughters christians* invented *slaughters any unbeliever* is*marries a 9 year old*lam?

>>140198843
yes, P in "islam" stands for Peace

>>140200193
>>140200277
Consider my cashews catalyzed

>>140199988
It's a common talking point that the US """stole""" the ME's oil.
>we dindu nuffin
>dey took our sheeit so it's a-okay that we became genocidal terrorists

>>140200193
Remember that all the injun tribes of the americas held hands and had orgies with each other and did nothing wrong to anybody and no one ever died.

>>140200854
So what do they think Trump was talking about during the debates, they should have taken more?

>>140198843
That way of writing...are they adapting...mhmm

>>140198843

There definitely isn't thousands of videos showing how fucking backwards and disgusting these people are.

>>140198843
>Durrr Mudslimes are so violent of course the region is unstable, fucking subhumans
>what is the Ottoman empire
>what is any caliphate that actually maintained a certain stability

The average muslim is smarter than the average /pol/tard

My country was raided, looted and raped daily by muslim animals for 500 years

>>140198843
People really need to bring up the Muslim conquest more. They raped and pillaged Europe even before the crusades

>>140200957
No. The American Indians need to fuck off back to Siberia - the U.S is rightful bison clay.

>>140198843
I legit thought she was referring to Muslims there.

We didnt bomb shit and we together with sweden and the brits were Hit the hardest by islamic terror in europe. What do we have to Do with your feud with the burgers, we even made the grave mistake to open our Doors for you. For all i care y'all could just suffocate under the garbage dump that is your whole Region

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>>140198843
1953 Iranian coup d'état (known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup) was the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh on 19 August 1953, orchestrated by the intelligence agencies of the United Kingdom (under the name 'Operation Boot') and the United States (under the name TPAJAX Project).The coup saw the transition of Mohammad-Rezā Shāh Pahlavi from a constitutional monarch to an authoritarian one who relied heavily on United States government support to hold on to power until his own overthrow in February 1979.

1958 Lebanon crisis. The President of the United States, Eisenhower authorized Operation Blue Bat on July 15, 1958. This was the first application of the Eisenhower Doctrine under which the U.S. announced that it would intervene to protect regimes it considered threatened by international communism. The goal of the operation was to bolster the pro-Western Lebanese government of President Camille Chamoun against internal opposition and threats from Syria and Egypt.

1979-1989 Afghanistan. In what was known as "Operation Cyclone," the U.S. government secretly provided weapons and funding for the Mujahadin Islamic guerillas of Afghanistan fighting to overthrow the Afghan government and the Soviet military forces that supported it. Supplies were channeled through the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) of Pakistan. Although Operation Cyclone officially ended in 1989 with the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan, U.S. government funding for the Mujahadin continued through 1992.

>>140200202
Open your border up schlomo

>>140198843
Is she calling out US Imperialism or mocking """peaceful""" Muslims?

>>140198843

If we assume that that excuse is correct then that only accounts for 1 country, maybe 2. Whats the excuse for all the others?

>>140198843
>Remember when Muslims in Arab countries were peaceful /pol/?- 47 posts and 4 image replies shown.
no human population was ever peaceful
but before the 70s, specifically 1973 muslims had no problem with the west

>>140198843
Nobodies that fucking old.
No they were always cunts but at least with Gaddafi and Hussein they were kept in line.

>>140198843
The Middle East is unstable for the same reason Africa is unstable: borders drawn arbitrarily to put people who hate each other into the same country, rather than putting them in different countries so they can beat each other up at soccer matches.

The West was fucked up until we killed enough of each other that everyone either got put on the correct side of the border or was dead and therefore couldn't complain.

>>140198843

Yea, those Ottoman and Uyymad guys didnu nuffin.

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>>140201922
B-b-b-but I thought diversity made us stronger and wiser!

>>140198843
the middle east has always been an unstable region full of unstable people
i have books from centuries ago written by explorers that visit muslim countries and describe how violent the people are etc

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>>140202451
could you name a few I want to read them.
plzzz anon

>>140202451
what are those books called?
excerpts from them supporting what you claim?

>>140198843
she's talking about the migrants, right?

>>140198843
>what is Pakistan

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>>140200202

>>140198843
If you kill your enemy they win. You need to just stop killing your enemy and maybe things will improve magically.

>>140200719
underrated

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>>140198843
>Remember when Muslims in Arab countries were peaceful
They've been infighting between different ethnic / religious tribes, etc.

This doesn't exist anymore in europe and the west can't fix those problems in the middle east because these problems live inside the minds of those people, it's ingrained in their culture and the only solution is to show them a peaceful future through better quality of life using tech and other modern inventions.

>>140198843
> muslims think the whiteman is actually invading them atm, not some jew-corps with proxy-jew war-profiteer wars
eyyyyyyyy lmao
first thing any proper military would do to these arab pigs, is anthrax the whole region

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How far back exactly are we supposed to go before we decide who started what and what is justified behavior? Do Mongolians owe anyone reparations?

>>140198843
Alexander ruined the Middle East.

>>140198843
before Whites actually subjugated the muzzies they raided european towns and enslaved millions of whites.They blocked traffic of Europe and where for a thousand years our worst enemy.That was finally broken in the early 19th century.That was also the time when slavery was destroyed in these countries.

I just *fucks little boy in the ass* dont understand why *forces women to wear black curtains* the middle east *still lives like 11th century feudal nomads* is so *fucks little boy in the ass again* unstable

>>140205472
These goddamn Macedonians. Someone needs to annex them to teach them a lesson.

Pols understanding of Islam is laughable. This is why you're all unemployed virgins while your women are desiring us.

>>140201726
Are you a muslim apologist?

>>140201726
>but before the 70s, specifically 1973 muslims had no problem with the west
Oh really nigger?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna

>>140199016
How do these fucks get so many likes/reshares?

>>140206606
left-wing neets

>>140206602
Are you really that moronic? These wars had nothing to do with what people thought of each other. It was monarchy vs monarchy. The average person in the middle east didn't know anything Vienna back then. In fact most of the ottoman army fighting this battle were Christian.

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>>140198843
You know I read her post and right until 'steal natural resources' I thought she was talking about muslims doing that shit

>>140206765
>These wars had nothing to do with what people thought of each other. It was monarchy vs monarchy.
Dude, you are just dumb.

>>140206765
>It was monarchy vs monarchy.
Oh wow.

>>140206765
>In fact most of the ottoman army fighting this battle were Christian.

You mean kids taken away from christian families, brainwashed and then raised into ottoman janissaries?

>>140198843

Shifting the blame is a favourite past time of todays society.

It goes as follows.

>Arabs get tricked by Jews

>Arabs gleefully join in the slaughter

>Americans are good goys, fall for propaganda once again

>Media shits out propaganda

>Aims achieved

>Now the West takes the blame

One profits.

There is some truth to that, in relation to Iraq and Libya. The rest of it though...is far more complicated. The problem is our preferential temporal layout.

Muslim areas have always been unstable when there is not a firm centralized authority. Nationalism cannot work, because tribalism is the go to organizational system. Purity tests in the religion also are a major source of conflict.

> The house of Saud fought the Turks for centuries.

If the US government did nut overthrow dictators, it would have happened anyway. There are people that want a renewed Islamic empire. The biggest roadblock to achieving this goal is of course Nation States and dictators over the region.


The Caliphatists cause the majority of then instability, because they obviously desire a calIphate. Since 1928 they've been trying to implement it.

Did Obama fund them in Syria? Sure did. But their ideas are older than Obama. They also exist almost universally in the Islamic world. From Africa to the Philippines, to Indonesia to the Balkans; Islamic regions are becoming increasing unstable due to Caliphatist activity.

Therefore it is not only the US governments fault, although it did spread hell like wildfire.

>>140199069
mohammed created radical islam

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>>140198843
>The Chicago Boys

>>140198843
>shows her face
Disgusting whore.

>>140206911
>>140206995
Yes retards. People were serfs, they lived under rule of Barrons and lords and had no rights or say in the matter. The people of the ottoman empire weren't out to conquer Austria. The ottoman army wasn't even muslim they were mostly Greek Christian Janiserraries, do you think they gave a fuck about Vienna? These wars were purely the work of leaders of the time.

Ottomans also had a 250 year long alliance with France and were supportive of Polish independence, it wasn't because the people wanted it

Read a book you retards, no wonder you're unemployed virgins

>>140198843
This is actually correct.
Blowback is actually a thing.
Not that arabs were ever peaceful.
But, it's definitely a lot worse since CIA fucked around in Iran with all the shah shit. It went downhill from there in the Arab world.

>>140198843
Stealing resources? You mean BUYING oil? Oil is their ONLY source of income. Without us buying their oil, they would all starve.

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>>140198843
>It's the West's fault that different ethnic and religious groups slaughter each other over differences

Makes me wonder who is to blame for the exact same things that happened in Europe.

>>140206299
nobody wants mud people unless they are rich
sorry to burst your bubble aussie

>>140207364
>The ottoman army wasn't even muslim they were mostly Greek Christian Janiserraries
>Christian
>janissaries
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissaries
>They began as an elite corps of slaves made up of kidnapped young Christian boys who were forced to convert to Islam, and became famed for internal cohesion cemented by strict discipline and order.
You really need to stop talking m8, let alone tell anyone to "read a book".

>>140198843
>Remember when Muslims in Arab countries were peaceful /pol/?
no

>>140206113
I'd like to annex bulgaria.

>>140198843
>arabs
>muslims
>peaceful
kek

>>140207560
Holy fuck man learn English before you come on this website. That's exactly the fucking point

>>140207364
>People were serfs, they lived under rule of Barrons and lords and had no rights or say in the matter. The people of the ottoman empire weren't out to conquer Austria. The ottoman army wasn't even muslim they were mostly Greek Christian Janiserraries,
t. muslim diaspora
Also work on improving your English, it's quite shitty

>>140198843
majority of muslims kill other muslims. explain that one away fatima

>>140199035
This. Thread

>>140209239
I already said I'm Muslim.

Also everything I said is true and if you had problems following it then your English is shit

>>140209313
Same reason why majority of people Nazis killed were fellow whites. You moron lmao

>>140206606
Normies dont know anything about islam.

>>140209379
You keep spurting more dumb crap about history you have no knowledge about, dumb kebab. Fuck off to your homecountry.

>>140209158
>you say they weren't muslim
>I say they were forced to convert to Islam
>you sperg out
>"DURRR THAT'S THE POINT!"
You're a retard, you know that?

>>140209554
What did I say which was incorrect? Ivan you're drunk go back to your village

>>140209564
No the point was they were fighting against their will. Holy fuck you are dense

>>140201100
>>what is the Ottoman empire
what happened there?

>>what is any caliphate that actually maintained a certain stability
Seriously though - what is?

>>140209418
she said the west was responsible for the shitshow that is the middle east, but it is in fact the barbarous and primitive violent nature of you shitskin retards which makes it a fucking shit hole

>>140199817
JUDEN UNTERMENSCH

>>140209704
>These wars had nothing to do with what people thought of each other. It was monarchy vs monarchy. The average person in the middle east didn't know anything Vienna back then. In fact most of the ottoman army fighting this battle were Christian.
Janissaries were Christian children taken from their parents, converted and raised as soldiers. The whole reason they become elite corps was because they were outsiders and had no ties and support from anyone but their masters (were common practice for forming bodyguard and elite corps around the world). Thus they were extremely loyal and stubborn in fighting for their cause. Religion was used as excuse for wars all the time as nobody gave a fuck about political correctness. I know you are retarded kebab but I will correct you anyway.

>>140209863
It is partly responsible for what has happened since the 50's yes.

>>140210145
No fucking shit. They were fighting Vienna against their will. That was my point. The war wasn't between people's but between two empires. The ottomans fought fellow Muslim Persians even more than they fought Austria. It is empire vs empire and monarch vs monarch.

>>140199167
You are retarded

>>140210298
>No fucking shit. They were fighting Vienna against their will.
They were converted, my retarded kebab.
>The ottomans fought fellow Muslim Persians even more than they fought Austria. It is empire vs empire and monarch vs monarch.
Nope, it's just Muslims and particularly Ottomans have no qualms against killing each other which history proves to us. Magnificient fuck up which is Middle East and North Africa is result of Muslim actions.

Well yeah. It's more profitable for the United States to destabilize the Middle East. No one is saying they don't understand why. It's pretty obvious what we're doing. But don't pretend the Middle East hasn't been killing each other for thousands of years over Sunni vs Shia bullshit.

>>140198843
Lol, the jews were mass murdered and still managed to regain power and wealth in just a decade.

>>140210221
>the west forces mulsims to pick up guns and murder each other
>the west forces muslims to blow themselves up in the middle of market places
your shitskin retardation is showing abdul

>>140198843

Yeah, me neither.

>>140199069
Nobody had to create these groups, this is just Islams natural state in the absence of a dictator keeping them in line.

>>140210727
But the jews have never been mass murdered.
Expulsed, sure, murdered, never.

I mean, if they were the world wouldn't be on the brink of collapse after all.

>>140210727
>the jews were mass murdered
European Jews were murdered, not American Jews

>>140210507
The soldiers had no qualms against Vienna. They were forced to.

The Muslim world has spent hundreds of years more advanced than Europe. The Abbasid Caliphate spent 400 years superior to Europe and Muslim Iberia was the best part of Europe while Vikings pillaged the coasts and Charlemagne slaughtered pagans.

The fall of the middle east had nothing to do with Islam, it's what happened roughly 600 years after Muhammad. The Mongols depopulated Persia through to Syria in 1200's. Tamerlane came through in the 1400's and did far worse. The middle east started coming back to superpower status briefly in the 1500's but then western Europeans circumvented the silk road with sea trade routes which slowly killed their economies. They were too late to get into colonialism because by then a handful of European countries dominated it. The current mess of the middle east is to do with the power vacuum left by the ottoman collapse and mix into that foreigners meddling like USA and communist USSR.

>>140199035
This. National Socialism works, even in the middle east.

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>>140198843
>Muh moooooslims REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Stop funding them
Stop sucking them
Stop killing them
Stop paying them to kill other Muslims
Stop supplying weapons
Stop interfering in their governance

>>140198943
If it makes you feel any better, before the British and French were divyying it up between themselves the ME was inhabited mainly by disorganized tribes in perpetual conflict with one another. They should have just left them to it in the long run.

>>140210781
No idiot. Look at Iraq. The west created a power vacuum. Conflict is what happens when you create a power vacuum and a dozen factions fight for power there. The west is destablizing the middle east. If you don't understand this then there's no hope for you to ever understand geopolitics. You're too dumb.

>>140210911
>The soldiers had no qualms against Vienna. They were forced to.
>The Muslim world has spent hundreds of years more advanced than Europe. The Abbasid Caliphate spent 400 years superior to Europe and Muslim Iberia was the best part of Europe while Vikings pillaged the coasts and Charlemagne slaughtered pagans.
Lol more kebab idiocity
>The fall of the middle east had nothing to do with Islam, it's what happened roughly 600 years after Muhammad
Middle East fell when Muhammad was still alive and shortly after his death thanks to prolonged war between Byzantine and Persian Empires which exhausted both of them and made them vulnerable targets.

>>140198843
>Remember when Muslims in Arab countries were peaceful /pol/?
Literally never.

>>140198843
Is that why muslims kill other muslims too? Because the other muslims bombed them and killed innocent people and stole resources? Truly a religion of peace.

>>140211064
>the west forces mulsims to pick up guns and murder each other
>the west forces muslims to blow themselves up in the middle of market places
You said nothing disprove his words. Nobody forces muslims to fill power vacuum with violence since Islam is religion of peace.

>/pol/ elite should read "banned" text islamic philosophy.
You guys think highly your "modern" world.

Tl;dr

https://ghayb.com/2016/08/where-is-the-wall-of-yajuj-wa-majuj-gog-magog/

>>140211011
How do I stop doing things I've never done in my entire life?

>>140198843
Em, when were they ever?
Didn't the Muslims invade Europe at least 20 times in the first 500 years (500ad to 1000 AD) of their existence? Even before the Ottomans go involved, and sieged Vienna twice.

>>140211116
Nothing you said is relevant or disagrees with what I said.

>>140211064
>we dont have a dictator what do we do? oh well better blow ourselves up in the market i guess
t. all muslims

>>140211229
No you don't understand, islam is The religion of peace, so obviously any violence happening in muslim countries is due to white people since islam is The religion of peace.

I mean, just look at Europe. We imported muslims, and now their crime and attacks everywhere. Why ? Because Europe is full of white people !
It's just that simple.

>>140211341
>Lol more kebab idiocity
>it's what happened roughly 600 years after Muhammad
>Middle East fell when Muhammad was still alive and shortly after his death
Read again, dumbass

>>140211229
Force? Do we have a draft there too?

>>140206606
Twitter is infested with shitlibs

>>140211404
>Because Europe is full of white people !
Oh, I get it now. White people cause violence. If there were no white people in Europe it would be peaceful land!

>>140211229
Islam can be a political vessel much the same as any ideology. The last 100 years has seen factions fighting each other which are monarchism, democratic, communist, religious, ethnic nationalist etc.

The rise of Muslim factions only really took place 70's onwards after the collapse of ethnic nationalist factions. The middle east used to be far more secular and more ethnic nationalist prior to this hence we have things like the Arab League which predates all the modern Islamic factions. There have been changed in ideologies and political values that you clearly aren't aware of.

>>140198943
because we 100% allowed them to have their own united block through not stirring pre-existing internal conflicts and permanently redesigning their frontiers and removing/fucking over leaders when we didn't like their brand of politics for the last 80 years, yeah

this board is filled with uneducated pieces of shit

god I wish the united memes of america would just evaporate

>>140211423
I already explained that the middle east spent some 400 years as a super power under Muslim rule. The middle east didn't permanently fall after Islam. It returned to super power status under the Abbasid Caliphate. The destruction of the middle east began. 1200's, not 650's.

>>140198843
>I just..
>*detonates*

>>140198843
If only we didn't have bush to start and Obama to perpetuate...

Oh how cute, she actually thinks the people in power don`t know what`s going on

>>140198843

Pretty *establishes civilization the rest of the world wants to join* fucking neat.

>>140211848
>I already explained
You've already showed you stupidity just like with the Ottomans. Don't bother embarrassing yourself any futher.

>>140198843
no

>>140212038
I was discussing Abbasid Empire you faggot. You're drunk

>>140200803
moistens my macadamias

>>140198843
Weird becuase China and Japan were occupied but they are fine now.

>>140212240
I've never drank in my life, kebab

>>140211848
Mate, the Abbasids was barely a superpower, they held no real authority and everyone just paid lip service to them and did their own thing.
As for no one wanting to attack Vienna, that's bullshit. Islam thrives due to the view of the other, the kuffar, as the group you can and should subjugate. While it's true that the Ottomans used slave armies, you'd have to go pretty far to find someone who wasnt pro warring with Christians.

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>>140198843
>muslims fighting almost continuously for the last 1400 years with each other and the rest of the world and is still going on today because of terrorist ulama and fuqaha of islam and because of the main people in the religion and their actions
>the cause is actually the "demonic" and "evil" west

Topkek

>>140198843
i agree with that but the middle east would be pretty shit even without that. also, people are trying to get their governments to stop these wars but nobody is listening

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>>140198843
Liberals will retweet this will praising war criminals like Obama, Hillary and Mc Cain.

>>140198843
the middle east is a shithole because of islamic revivalism

>>140201320
On 24 July, Germany lent €100 million Euros ($144 million USD) to the rebels for "civilian and humanitarian purposes".

>>140206348
no i'm a person with logic

>>140198843
Islam has only existed for a rough 1500 years. Coincidentally before that the middle east was pretty calm, diverse and peaceful. Now it's full of angry brown arabs.

Añl the retards in this thread saying how the middle east was always in war are fucking retarded, that's not the issue you idiots.

Bush, Obama, Hillary, McCain and all the neocons are to blame for the genocide of millions of people in the middle east.
It's objectively your fault for letting those people be in charge of your country, it's your fault for believing mainstream media lies.

But it's also retarded to let the friends and familiars of the people killed for your stupidity in your country too.

Just stop voting for war.

Vote for Tulsi Gabbard in 2020.

>>140212373
Then you're a better Muslim than me. Good boy.

>>140212606
Kek Abbasid were the wealthiest empire in the world at this point except possibly the two Chinese empires existing at that time.

You're also projecting modern Islamic extremism onto mediaeval times. The Ottomans were not hung up on religion so much. They had a 250 year alliance with France. They were foremost concerned about dominating trade routes

>>140198843
before the west starting bombing? 100 years ago? no

>>140212700
And yet the Europeans had a far more violent history since 650AD and now you think because you've enjoyed 300 years of dominance this is permanent? Kek China and India will soon overtake the west possibly in our generation.

Ok cumskins I'm off. Enjoy seeing your societies slowly convert and get dominated by wahhabis while you can do nothing but screech online

>>140213471
Unlikely, Africans didn't invent wheel in 200 000 years. Chinese didn't invent cars, trains and computers in 100 000 years. And then came the superior White man 10 000 years ago and swept the floor with everybody. From mapping the whole planet to inventing automobiles and aeroplanes. From theory of general relativity to going to space and landing on the Moon. The White man has and always will reign supreme.

Who is this semen demon?

>>140200120

I assumed it was someone mocking Muslims since they are invading western countries and blowing shit up as they kill innocents and take gibs.

>>140213233
You call people retards but you can't seem to grasp that the people don't have any power over the decissions made in their country.

No president will say "When I'm elected I will invade this country and take its resources for our country!". Even if they did, and you voted for a different candidate, the elite would follow as planned regardless of who's in charge.

In Spain, the absolute majority of the population voted against going to Afghanistan and we still sent our soldiers there. Yet it's the families of the people that are against those things and are also under the iron fist of our Goverments that have to see their relatives die in the terrorist attacks.

Not a single politician has suffered for any of this. Their families are untouched. Trying to justify terrorism like "Hey, you're responsible for this" is moronic, to put it lightly.

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>>140211847
Look at this assblasted Ahmed top lel

>>140213342
I'm well aware of the Ottoman system, and of Suleimans laws and the segregation of people in order the keep people from butchering each other, it's probably why their empire lasted so long. It doesnt mean that they werent out to conquer land, and it sure doesnt mean they were pro-christians either, pretty sure the Jizya was still around.

>>140213721
Kek europe was normally backward in technology and science. Very much behind on a civilizational standard. the middle east was more advanced than Europe from 5000bc up until about 100AD then it was pretty equal up until 600AD. The middle east surpassed Europe again in 800AD all the way to 1200AD. Europe only truly surpassed the rest of the world 1600's onwards thanks to dominating trade over sea plus discovering market economies first but now Asia has this too so it's quickly catching up

One day Muslims just showed up in Finland and started wreaking havoc, and I'm supposed to think these criminal murderers and welfare abusers are the good guys?

>>140213981
Jizya was an income earner. They actually didn't like converts into Islam because it reduced taxes. The middle east remained 20% Christian until the end of ww1. They had jizya and some certain laws which made them second class citizens within the empire but for the most part their communities were largely autonomous and ran themselves without too much interference from the central government.

>>140198843
Implying they ever been

>>140198843
>were peaceful
pull the other one.

>>140199313
Afghanistan used to be a Hindu country.

Hasn't been peaceful since the silk road was founded.

>>140213791
Sounds like we dindu nuffin.

Half of USA's population voted for Hillary, even after what happened in Lybia.

>>140199988
We buy the oil fair and square which is why Saudis and other gulf monarchies are such rich degenerates. It is how they afford these bitch's designer clothes and luxury cars. It is how they afford to fund CAIR to pretend Islam is a religion of peace.

I think we SHOULD just steal them and bomb the locals back to the stone age.

>>140198843
Remember kids

LEFTISTS
CAN'T
MEME

>all they can do is steal /pol/ ones and repurpose them to fit their hysterical, degenerate and deeply ignorant agendas

>>140200719
/win

The more I learn about history the more I realize the name on the map often doesn't say enough.

As in, whenever there has been a European expedition into the X Caliphate, it turns out all these guys fucking hate each other and always have. It's only very technically one unified empire.

But the Muslims are masters of deceit and they know Westerners don't know jack shit about Middle Eastern history, so they will push the false narrative that everything was cool under the Abbasids or Ottomans.

And its true that Western intervention heavily influenced the current climate. However, it was Cold War related and not religious in nature. The Middle Easterners were trying their best to elect gibsmedat commies who promised the peasants the Westerners oil.

Where does the onus lie now? Can the Muslims just jihad everyone while yelling, "You made me this way. I learned it from you dad!" The fact is that Muslims don't really care, this is just a convenient excuse for what is their ultimate religious and societal purpose.

>>140198843
Lmao this is "13 year old that thinks he's woke" tier.

>>140201100
Oh you mean the empire that raided Christian settlements and stole children to be used as janissaries?

>>140213791
Thanks for articulating this, it's something I've thought about a lot. Normie shitlibs just go, oh we wronged these people, gotta let them come in and maybe probably kill us. People are fucking sheep.

But I don't think brown people are too stupid to understand that slaying random civilians in the street is taking revenge against the same people who are responsible for military campaigns in the Mideast. No, they are just going for the softest targets they can find.

The government fucks them, then helps them fuck us.

>>140198843

nope

The sand people tribes were peaceful at some point?

>>140198843
aparently the middle east isnt responsible for anything that happens in the middle east

>>140216221
yeah they should have put the oil somewhere else

>>140200071
So in roughly 400 yrs we gonna push back hard