Kiwi/pol/ General - Debate Night

>>140192442
y'all have a maori party?

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>>140195100
Yeah, but they're basically non-existent.

>>140195100
we have maori only seats so take a guess

Can anyone give me a brief synopsis on the major parties in NZ? Also I always NZ was gay until you kept your flag , good job

>>140195424
>>140195424
>Can anyone give me a brief synopsis on the major parties in NZ
National = Liberal
Labour = Labour
Green = Green
NZ First = Pauline/Katter Hybrid
TOP = Rich Wanker with who thinks he knows how to run the country
Maori = give more money for maori language in all schools and give more money tor tribes
ACT= Moderate ANCAPS
United Future= centrist independent MP trying to be relevant by creating a party

>tfw no 5'1 manic pixie maori gf who wears bucket hats and coats and plays the guitar and has purple hair

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Looks like I was wrong. Based Winnie really is /ourguy/.

>>140192442
tfw kim is about to unleash GOAT tier nukes and NZ is well out of range :3

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>>140196332
Woops wrong one

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>>140196466
feels comfy man

Debate should be interesting. Although looking forward to the next one with the minor parties included

20 or so minutes until Debate.

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>>140192442
>>Election Date
>Saturday, 23 September 2017
>23.09.17

Deeply homosexual audience, I aint watching this shit

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Gower going savage on both, this debate looks set to be spicier than the last one

>>140196804
I thought the prophecy was on US time

>>140196804
Oy vey

>>140196510

who cares about this culture war shit, just put the brakes on immigration ffs

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Might just chuck national my vote just to deny labour

>>140198509
Nope they had to find a timezone where the goyim sleep and israel wakes. See you in sept anon. We know all about hillsong. Have a (you). Im the (((one))).

the gender grap-
jap-
gap

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>>140198796
>Chang, rev up that portfolio!

Jacinda is fumbling pretty hard here,

>>140199177
> ali, run over those infidels

Fuck Poopeelanders

>>140198981
Is this kek's way of sparing us from an Ardern government?

Bill seems to be on top so far. National/NZF could be a winner

These Jacinda ads during the break that back up her points uncontested feel like borderline cheating.

1 in 7 of us live in poverty. Who here's a povo cunt?

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>>140199624
If Gower would stop incessantly interrupting him he'd be doing even better

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>>140199678
It's spelt taxinda

Do I vote for Jacinda for personal gain with the uni plan and crash the economy with no survivors?
The question for youth

>>140199697
>1 in 7 of us live in poverty
what is the threshold

>>140199980
Yes, if first year uni is free everyone will take it without giving a fuck, it will be one big party and you'll get laid like crazy

>>140200030
no idea desu

>>140199776
>It's spelt taxinda
>Not talking about tax Bill
did you not know that taxing workers and not the jews is good goy?

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Paddy is best political commentator

>>140199726
no surprise - paddie has shown his true colours this election. Have you seen those cringy reports of his on "muh jacindamania" a couple of weeks back?

>>140199678
I take that back now that it's even

>>140200928
It's spelt Birr Engrish

>>140200932
Since I posted that he's been remarkably fair, calling out taxinda on her vague policies and lack of numbers
As someone who hates them both it's entertaining as fuck

>>140201060
It is more entertaining than the hosking one. Based patty

>>140192442
I thought Labour was up in the polls just recently? Or did it change. Would be shit house is bill lost and that two hole got in.

>>140201225
Labour was leading by a few points on TV one, National are still leading by a few points on TV three's poll

The only poverty is this country is mental. You can get three hundred bucks a week doing nothing. Fucking crackheads

>>140201183
It's great. Never seen Engrish this rattled

>>140201448
I can barely trust polls anymore, they always conflict.
Gambling sites seem pretty reliable tbqh, on sportsbet Nationals are paying 1.33 and Labor paying 3.10.

>>140201915
the dollar fell when labour got ahead in the polls meaning the markets know something

>If Australia locks us out of tertiary education, we'll lock them out here

uh okay...

>>140200989
>not Bill Chinese

>>140202062
m8 you should prob end the free movement

>>140202102
Better him than Jewcinda

Who the fuck are these "political analysts"? I've never seen any of those jacindashilling cunts they just showed before.

>>140202142
Oy vey. Reported to the Sir John Key Trust for Victims of Anti-Semetism.

>>140202318
Hooton has been around for ages though

>>140202318
Hooton is the only one on the right. Pretty sure the others are lefties. There all hacks though

>>140202467
Hooton is a full neo liberal though in every sense

>>140202318
I know the stuff one and the fat guy.
Shills that no one should listen to

>>140200030
Can't afford a 6-pack with every meal.

>>140202142
>>140202360
Gut = busted

>>140202467
He zinged them in his last comment, the look on the brown bitch's face was priceless

Plus one for hanging up on any war call so we don't risk it all for putting in our two boats.

>>140202610
Yea he can be pretty savage
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/matthew-hooton-remaining-4-supporting-greens-mainly-hippies-and-drug-addicts/

Had to be out earlier.

Thank fuck Labour are below National again. I have no way NZF will swing. Surely Winnie sees Jacinda as a Trudeau type cuck, but Winston will also dislike National for the recent scandal.

How's the debate gone so far?

>>140199776
Whaleoil considering picking up your meme, nice work

>>140202735
Jacindashits shilling for horseface, as per usual.

>>140202820
The only redeeming feature about her is she was apparently on the rock day saying she liked metal, lmao.

Don't see it in a type like her at all.

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>>140202733
>"This remaining four percent I would expect are mainly hippies and drug addicts in the West Coast and Coromandel, and they are exactly the sort of people who are unlikely to show up," Hooton said.
BASED
>>140202761
Fuck I knew I should have copyrighted it

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>>140202675
NZ to the rescue!

>>140203013
Hey that's my dinghy ya thieving blighter

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The Hui lady is starting to scare me.

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>>140192442
Does this compass makes sense? I was curious about their alignment, and something tells me this is bullshit. Is it?

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>>140203154
>Greens
>Libertarian

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>>140203154
>ACT
>Authoritarian
??????????????

>>140203154
No Compass makes sense, because half the questions on the quiz are loaded.

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>>140203154
Shift everyone two squares to the left.
Also >tfw no TOP

>>140203154
>ACT
>Authoritarian
yet
Pro incest
Pro Euthanasia
Pro Abortion
Pro Asian

>>140203154
All of these are generally bullshit. Miss the ideological element.

Here's a more clear view

National: UK Tories.
Labour: Trudeau Tier leftism.
NZ First: Civic nationalism but way less heavy than Trumps. It's "Left Wing" economically, but less so than Labour. Mostly just anti-immigration, anti-chink buying our housing etc stuff.

ACT = reagonomics party, UF is dead, Greens are Greens, Maori and Mana are Maori identitarian parties, left wing gibsme shit.

Way it works is either National or Labour get in, and will have to form a coalition with minor parties, usually on the same part of the spectrum as them. If that's not enough, they have to add NZ First in, at which point /ourguy winnie/ gets quite a lot of power.

>>140203355
>Pro incest

What's the story?

>>140203270
>>140203272
>>140203320
>>140203351
>>140203355
Figured that much, https://www.politicalcompass.org is left wing propaganda after all.

What would be the most right wing libertarian candidate? National or NZF?

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Who /voting4winnie/ here

>>140203351
>Also >tfw no TOP
Just like parliament

>>140203433
ACT is the fedora party. David Seymour is definitely on the spectrum

National are neoliberals, NZF are civic nats.

>>140203431
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11210373

>>140203433
how the hell could NZF ever be libertarian

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>>140192442

>>140195815
>>140195815
>national = liberal

Yeah, nah

more like

National = Rich wankers working for other rich wankers
Labor =Nanny state communists
Greens = Pot addicted hippies who use flase stats to push their regressive left agenda
NZ First = Libertarian
TOP = Progressive rich wanker with a lisp
Maori = Awww chuur more dole for tins nd codys ghee
ACT = Out of touch ANCAPs
United Future = Hi I'm peter dunne, a corrupt failure of an MP

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>>140203547
> incestuous relationships between consenting adults should not be illegal and says it would be "intellectually corrupt" of him not to be honest when asked such questions.

>>140203428
>Mostly just anti-immigration, anti-chink buying our housing etc stuff.
Shit, sign me up

>>140203675
>>national = liberal
m8 the nats are the same as the australian liberal party

>>140203571

Damn that is good

>>140192442
NZ is an Australian territory

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>>140203675
>Awww chuur more dole for tins nd codys ghee
oi cunt you better not generalize me maori mates otherwise ill get this rough cunt here to give you a hiding ow g

After the first debate a majority of the media claimed Jacinda won but now the same people say she has improved a lot from a weak first debate. Really oodles my noodle.

>>140203675
>NZF
>Libertarian

LEL

Also, you're an idiot. His synopsis is pretty decent

All I want in a political party is:
>Cuts immigration and refugee numbers significantly
>Respects freedom of speech
>Tries to squeeze landlords out of the market slowly

>>140203812
n z f

>>140203802
Jacinda lost the first debate, this one was pretty even.

>>140203812
That is literally labour retard, those are some low expectations

>>140203889
Yeah I will be voting NZF but winnie is more talk than action. Still the best option though.

When do we start our White Identity party lads?

>>140203927
>labour
>respects freedom of speech
Get fucked.

>>140204023
P A K E H A
A
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>>140203956

>>140204108
New Zealand actually has pretty decent free speech laws, and labour has made no claims they will change them
Don't be stupid

>>140204122
Despite the nifty alliteration, the people it might appeal to are also the very people who wouldn't like being called 'pakeha'.

>>140204199
>labour has made no claims they will change
they have fucked up on others
https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/05/yet-another-reason-not-vote-labour-want-treated-guilty-proved-innocent-accused-rape/

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FUCK YOU MURCA

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where are all the thumbnails

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>tfw no matter who is voted in they won't change shit and the nation will keep spiralling down and one day my daughters will be choosing between chang, pajeet and muhammad

>>140204207
>not reclaiming the word pakeha to mean white and better than browns

>>140204207
>pointless unrelated argument with whaleoil as a source
Retard

>>140192442
Is a Jew still your PM?

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>>140203355
>And a nip nong ching chong to you too ACT.

>>140203886
when's this dated from?

>>140204325
>>140204207
Meant for
>>140204269

>>140201915
I checked out the nz leddit. Big mistake.

>>140204335
No. Is a Jew lover still your President?

>>140204335
No, he jumped ship halfway through his term and we now have a slack jawed yokel instead.

>>140204335
He's very Christian (6 kids)

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Who did this though?

Well for the start of that debate, Bill dominated, then it went downhill for him in the second half.

>>140204303
classic bongcuck
>inb4 nuh uh i am a proud new zealander!!!!

LOL you're a bongcuck

>>140204517
me

>>140204705
>45% white

>>140204705
If Jews have big noses what ethnicity is someone with giant teeth?

>>140203465
Every kiwi is*

*chinks(nats) and maoris(labour) are not kiwis

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>>140204852
Equine.

>>140204876
truth except that there for traitor rats who only care about money who will vote nat and stupid cunts who only care about muh refugees and other sjw shit who will vote labour

anyone that doesn't want nz to be a larger version of auckland votes nz first

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Our elections are basically bullshit. Voting NZ First is best but in reality we need to be preparing for
>Financial collapse (housing or finance, most likely coming from international problem)
> more natural disasters. Government has been too slow to react. Imagine if its Jacinda.. will she be able to make hard decisions? ...
>further soft-colonisation by foreigners erroding our culture and sense of national identity making the apathy problem worse

but people will continue to talk on and on about the pre-made talking points on the TV news.

We need a movement we can call our own. No LARPING just without the ((((tricks))) of usury and media manipulation.

>>140204916
Which act mp fucked her mum?

>>140204993
Actually I remember it was Ross Ardern. The corrupt cop who was her dad. Guess he was a bronie as well
>friendship is magic!

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>>140204339

None of you are actually voting NZF right? As much as we'd love Winnie as our pm, it isn't happening and we all know it.

Vote National or you're supporting Labour (which is obviously much worse).

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I tried so hard

Fuck the debate.

Just got here. Winniecucks still about?

>>140205703
voting NZF is much better than voting national. NZ First is never going to outright win so having them as a coalition actually helps them. They can force through 1 piece of legislation in return for playing ball to get a majority.
in b4
> muh family voted [one of the two cuck parties] for geeneerrattionsss

>>140205703
kys chink jew

>>140205734
Based

Any new grafitti shots of billboards? I saw one in the north island for national which had the slogan delivering for new zealand changed to delivering for china. Also the usual hitler mustache ones.

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Reminder

>>140205734
>>140205908
t r u t h

It essentially boils down to this. Are you happy with the way the country is and has been going for the last 9 years. If yes then National, if no then Labour.
If no but some of Labours policies you don't like. then NZF.
If you are voting National, then you are accepting to be a slave of Mohammad, Pajeet, and Chang in 10 years time if not sooner, because this is probably the last chance.

>>140204916
I'd fuck Jacindas horse face

imagine those teeth, just gently brushing past the head of your pulsating cock

>>140206102
Well said.

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First four top tweets under the #Decision17 hashtag. Slayyyyyyyyyyyyy queen!

>Uncommitted audience
>Unironically using the word "mansplain"
Nice try Three or Phree or Trois or whatever the fuck you're calling yourself this week

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when your 'social investment policy' breaks the crowd into laughter

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>>140206301

>>140203684
>>140203684
Also anti Maori-only seats in parliament.
Winnie has always been ourguy and we say that in every single NZ thread.
>>140203812
Literally NZF

Winnie is the guy who coined the phrase
"Two wongs don't make a white"

>>140206102
word my nigga

>>140206223
Ardern is getting poll gains solely because she's a womyn. Kate sheppard fucked it up for everybody. All those retarded election results around the world are our fault because we opened the floodgates by letting womyn vote.

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>>140206380

>>140206480
That saying was coined before Winnie was born

>>140206588
Do you have the clip of him doing the sign of the cross?

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>>140206704
debate was a meme goldmine does this shit not make people cringe? elephants in the room they dont mention any of the shit real people are worried about. muh houses. cool story.

>>140206616
Yeah but how many politicians actually fucking used it?

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>>140205731

>>140204916
I'd fuck her desu. I'd need to put a ball gag in her mouth first though.

>>140206964
really common in aus

Alright NZF supporters, sell me on why the current amount of migrants coming into New Zealand is too high, and how Winnie is going to severely restrict immigration without majorly impacting on our economic growth and construction of new housing.

>>140206964
That's how I know you're not a kiwi, literally everyone in every pub ever

>>140207712
idk man the first I heard of it was my dad laughing about winnie being such a redpilled god

>>140207769
My grandad thought he came up with it too. Maybe it's an older generation thing

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>>140205731
>>140207370

>>140207678
Treasury already said we could massively cut down immigration numbers without harming the economy by like 2020. The issue is that our economic growth is built off that immigration. Instead we should actually look around and go "who do we actually need we cannot train ourselves".

The construction issue can be solved with bringing in people especially for building as well as train our own people.

We don't need bigger or smaller government, we need smarter government.

>>140208000
I'm going to have to check those digits

>>140207678
Mate, go check out Auckland for yourself. That is the future that awaits the other cities if we don't shut the gates pronto. If you don't see the problem before your eyes, you don't want the same NZ that we want. Its a fucking foreign city.

Nobody really gives a fuck about the effect upon the economy although less chinks buying up property and rich foreign students driving up rents might help. Also less Filipinos driving down low skill agriculture jobs can't hurt. Having an economy built around foreign investment and immigration isn't sustainable anyway.

tl;dr kys retard

>>140208151

It's gotten to the point where we're better off just giving the slopes The North Island and keeping the pure South Island for the whites.

>>140207678
>sell me on why the current amount of migrants coming into New Zealand is too high
It's 90,000 a year.
>without majorly impacting on our economic growth
Creating a artificial housing scarcity by flooding Auckland with immigrants isn't sustainable growth retard.
> construction of new housing.
The new housing required for all the immigrants I presume? The same houses bought by Chinese millionaires, which no kiwi will ever own, or if they do live in them will be charged absurd rent prices.

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>>140208254

>>140207370
>>140208000
Long lost brother?

>>140207712
Like I said it's the fact he's a politician, not some guy in a pub ya dumbass

>>140208547

You would be an improvement on my lefty sjw apologist of a brother.

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Everyone wonders about immigration first hand, let me give you guys an article from today.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/96468360/new-zealander-takes-out-top-prize-in-world-gaming-competition-in-japan
>new zealander

>>140208254
seems a bit defeatist at this point but if i had it in writing that the south would stay pure I'd sign the north island off in a fucking heartbeat

>>140208254
The south and definitely the west of the north island are good too.

Give the north to the chinks and the centre and east to the Maoris

>>140205703
that's not how it works

>>140207678
I don't give a fuck if we hamstring economic growth if our country becomes Greater China.

Despite that, our incoming migrant rate is already ridiculously high, at 90,000 per year. Comparing it to other western nations, it's absurdly high.

>>140209281

Probably make the cut off point here?

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>>140209833
>>140209281

Forgot file

>>140195100
I can't wait for you guys to get your first Abbo prime minister.
Comedy gold.

Jacinda + comrade into you tube

Totally "not" communist or having socialist leanings.

>>140209928
>your first Abbo prime minister.
You mean a 1/48th Abo that got his tuition free and a fast track through politics thanks to his race card?

>>140209858
>letting the chinks have the cormandel and taupo region

>>140200922
these ausfags have problems holy shit guys

>>140210260
whoops I meant

>>140208168

>>140200088
>>140199980
I'm going to uni next year
I don't want a whole lot of losers being obnoxious and noisy taking a free year long party and holiday

>>140210097
>caring about that over the beautiful bay of plenty

>>140210016
I want her to call me comrade while she grinds her pussy onto my face

>>140210444
>implying the te urewera moaris will let chang take it

>>140210755
don't know that they can stop them without us letting them

>>140210293
That already happens even without the first year free.

>>140210293
they already get interest free loans meaning there is just fucking drongos everywhere

>>140203355
fucking hell act are degenerate

>>140203428
winnie should screw their balls for their instant "no" to giving up prime minister

Euthanasia is a good thing for families so they don't have to watch their loved ones die in slow pain

The rest of act can fuck off

Remember to give your two ticks to Labour boys. #Let'sDoThis

>>140204023
if you want to be successful you will need to include maori

just make it about acknowledging we are different cultures and have a plan to clean up both our races.

>>140213128
I'm going to vote for Sauron. Things were better when he was in charge.

>>140204916
why doesnt she get her teeth fixed?

just pull out her wisdoms and use braces to push them back into the maxilla

>>140206839
theres no way this dude didnt suck down a whole spliff and 10 cans of double brown before he went on

eyes red as fuck and sweating like a rapist

>>140209858
we must defend palmerston north at all costs

surely the whitest part of the north island

>>140210755
is tame iti /ourseparatist/?

>>140207678
>We need to bring in more immigrants to build houses for the immigrants we've already brought in

>>140215327
It's more of a supply issue than anything else, and the fact is we need immigrants to help build new houses and infrastructure. It would be great if we could get kiwis to do it, and the government is doing the right thing by encouraging more young people to get into trades, but for the time being we need people to fill the jobs. I'm not actually opposed to the idea that we should lower our cap on immigration by the way, but pretending like that is the biggest strain on housing right now is false. There would still be a housing crisis if we reduced immigration down to zero.

>>140217940
>reduce what's causing a housing crisis (foreign investment and pop. growth caused by immigration) wont reduce demand on housing
Then where's this housing crisis coming from?

>>140218124
Of course that will reduce demand, I'm saying that supply is the main issue here. The lack of new houses being built is the major cause of the housing crisis. Population is only growing about 2% annually, there's no excuse why we shouldn't be able to provide the houses.

>>140218650
Are you retarded. Nearly all of that two percent live in Auckland and a major city was largely destroyed not all that long ago

>>140218650
>only 2%
House prices are skyrocketing in Australia and Canada too, the problem is immigration not muh social housing or muh not enough free market.

>>140218868
>Nearly all of that two percent live in Auckland
Even still. There is more than enough land to develop on surrounding Auckland that would solve this problem, it just hasn't been done because of excessive regulation.

>>140218905
We were able to build enough houses when population growth was 3-4%

>>140219919
No one wants to live 2 hours drive from work. Auckland is already fuck huge

>>140217940
How on earth is it a supply issue? Aucklands boundaries get redefined all the time because of how much the city if exploding with new immigrants.

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>>140192442
no
Greens - 6.1
NZ First - 6.6
???
at least we let our smaller parties on the stage wtf is this shit