Gay Marriage where do you stand? Yes or No So far there aren't

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Nay!

>>140146955
I don't give a fuck. Doesn't bother me or obstruct my rights.

>>140146955
I really don't care one way or the other but I'd vote against it just to see the meltdown from leftist fuckwads.

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>>140147196
>Dublin

>>140146955
>Everyone in my house blasting me for being against it
>non-religious
>They don't agree with homosexuality
>However believes everyone is entitled to there rights
>They don't care cause it doesn't effect them so they will happily support it if they were forced to

Am I wrong for not agreeing that it doesn't have an effect on society.

>>140146955
Don't give a fuck.

Just don't go parading with your dick out for everyone to see demanding the government recognizes gender number 626222781 on your passport.

>>140146955
No.

>>140147196
makes my blood boil

>>140147568
why tho if it doesn't effect you like everyone else here?

I'm anti-gay marriage here's why fellas:

Homo's can already marry. It's called a civil partnership. They can even have it look like a proper wedding etc... But nope, they want to be married like a CHRISTIAN. Gay marriage is merely another way for the kike to defile and degrade our religion. Think about it, they're literally FORCING priests to marry them, even though our religion forbids it. It's incredibly twisted. Can you see them forcing gay marriage on Muslim Imams anytime soon?

>>140147404
just another blow to the institutions that our western civilization is based upon. Fucking stupid australian sheep will vote overwhelmingly in favor of this. This country is going to hell. I will soon begi the process of obtaining my duel au/eu citizenship

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>>140147639
b-but marriage is over!
>writers name

>>140147639
but a civil partnership is apparently not recognized by the government as officially as a marriage is?

No one is forcing a priest to marry them, they don't have to do it out of anything other then choice. The ceremony can be done so without a priest.

IMO I'm against it as a civil right because to me it is by law wanting to change the definition of which a marriage is and therefore is them enforcing a way of life I do not want in or within my community. They can still date, still do all the shit they want to even get a civil union... but targeting marriage and trying to shape society to meet there agenda is by long a political movement more then it is anything.

>>140146955
reminder polgb admin is a gay jew

>>140147765
yeah but couldn't you argue that our western civilization is based upon freedom and rights for ALL people.

>>140147803
Only thing different between civil partnerships and marriage is how the ceremony looks and some minor legal things in the event of a split. It's essentially the same thing, but homos want to dance on the tomb of Christ.

http://metro.co.uk/2017/02/21/what-is-a-civil-partnership-the-difference-between-marriage-and-a-civil-partnership-6463101/

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>>140146955
Yes, because one sin doesn't excuse another one.

>>140147791
>(((berg)))

>>140146955
I'm against anything that promotes faggotry as normal or acceptable.

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>>140147791

>>140146955
Don't care one way or the other. I'm honestly for it just so they will shut the fuck about it and stop pretending to be oppressed.

But, I do think homosexuality is nothing more than a perversion.

>>140147791
Author is a baby boomer... they'll all be dead soon enough and we can start rebuilding

>>140146955
Marriage is a Christian/ Catholic sacrament between a man and a woman.

Gay marriage is obviously ridiculous.

If they gays want to get "National Unions" or something, sure. They can never be married, though, not truly.

>>140146955
No, state is too involved with marriage. Why should we pay for fags.

>>140148327
I second this

>>140148254
you missed recent discoveries allowing people not to get old ever

>>140147958
our democratic systems have been cooped by dishonest media and this is only further evidence that of this. The stability of society itself is being undermined to cater to the feelings of some whining faggots. This is just another attack on the church and by extension the family unit itself which is the driving force behind society.

>>140148522
I agree with you

but the burden of proof lies in actually proving that it is a detriment to the instability of society, how does it effect that? Does it if not anything enhance it but bringing more benefits into society like economically wise and so forth?

>>140148414
Salute, based burger bro.

Gay marriage is actually one of the issues that I self red pilled myself on. Was always brainwashed in Canada and by kind about how importsnt it is and how intolerant people are to be against it.

But it's obvious a small lobby group treks to fundamentally alter the lives if millions more because they're literally salty. And the negative impact of the gay acceptance slippery slope is evident.

Gays don't need to be persecuted or beat up, but they should keep it to themselves. Really everyone should keep their sex lives to themselves. But they're so selfish and conceited they can't see past their skis.

>>140146955
No
> it is outside of the church
It is not and you know it

>>140146955
No. Marriage is a state given document that says that you and a member of the opposite sex are living together and (very likely) share assets like cars, bank accounts, living spaces, etc. When people got married it was also a given that they would then begin a family and have children.

Because of the reasons above, getting married meant you could file for taxes jointly and get tax breaks as a couple, and depending on how many 'dependents' (ie future tax payers) you have made, you get even more tax breaks, because ultimately to the system, your dependents will become independents and will pay their own taxes and make up for the tax breaks you and your spouse briefly saw.

Gay people don't fit into this equation at all -- they can NOT create future tax payers and therefore should not receive any state benefits of marriage.

Keep it out of society and childrens eyes.

Only to unleash on feral negroids in the prison complex.

If you don't target whites I'll let it slide.
Bonus if you have a std.

>>140146955
Nah

>>140148804
wheres the evidence? I need it. I need a source. I need to redpill my family.

>>140147606
Dirty toilets give you boners. Rainbows are the sign of the covenant dipshit. https://unvis.it/abc.net.au/news/2017-08-23/same-sex-marriage-what-bible-has-to-say-robyn-whitaker/8831826
There's way more to this but i wont do your homework. For an asshole

>>140148924
I like this, this a very good point. It is not there right to change that very definition to meet there degeneracy as a societal norm.

>>140146955
NO.

There is no need for the term "marriage" when civil unions / de facto relationships exist
If there are areas where there are inequality
Fix them
But the term marriage is a cultural and faith based word and in this age of tolerance and peace, you must respect the culture and faith of others, especially if the gay community at max is 5% of the population

Its purely a move motivated by spite
And its transparent

>>140146955
Don't give a shit. Sure, why not. Just leave me alone.

>>140148924
but they can adopt, they can use a surrogate and so forth. So the whole tax benefits can supply, I mean not every married couple has kids it is a choice.

>>140148144
Gli ebrei e gli omosessuali hanno niente da contrare insieme. Gli ebrei organizzano sotto dalle donna. Hanno construito l'isis, un culto della fertilità. Tagliono dei piselli. E non sapevi che Hadrian era frocio ma ha distrutto gli ebrei dall'Inghliterra?

>>140147791
>((Berg))
Every fucking time

>>140147639
In total agreement. What is marriage without religion?
>change your last name (optional now)
>change your tax payment (also optional)
>devote yourself to one person & vice versa (apparently optional now with le cuck & polygamous memes)
So the only significance with marriage is through religion, and the major world religions are against homosexuality, so they should fuck off already or stop being gay/lesbian (which is becoming an option with the tranny mindset being pushed)

>>140149543
*tagliano
>>140149703
Lol i just blew out this narrative in Italian. Translate it for some truths. Frocio means fag not lie. And the fixed tagliano means they cut dicks. Not they are peas. Peas and dicks are the same word

>>140146955
"Marriage" is a holy bond between a man and a women, it is the basis that families and thus civilisation is founded upon. The purpose of the marriage is to ensure that when people are going to have kids, they have adequate resources and personnel (not a random bimbo of the street) to look after these children.
As sodomites cannot have kids, there is no purpose for marriage, any financial benefits to being married can come from a civil partnership (which already exists) the act of legalising sodomite marriage is simply another way of these faggots to further degenerate and mock our once great christian societies.

>>140149792
I meant *polyamorous but same thing

>>140149358
>they can adopt
>they can use a surrogate
true, however that opens up another argument; should gays be allowed to raise children? And my opinion on that is no.

>not every married couple has kids, it is a choice
true, true, also some married couples are unable to have children and do adopt / use a surrogate, however NAXALT. These couples are not the majority, so it's not fair to use them to represent the majority.

>>140146955
fuck no
this tranny bullshit is all from them

>>140146955
No, "homosexuality" is a series of fetishes. One can choose them as much as one chooses to be attracted to feet; that is to say they can't.

So the act shouldn't be illegal, but allowing them marriage is a farce

>>140149890
Theyre not sodomites. Grab them is. And no it isnt. You know nothing. Serpent. Seed. Thats all you ever need to know. Serpent. Seed. She was his help meet before he cucked himself through her. THEN she became his wife. Why don't born eunuchs apply to the marriage parable? Why doesnt any of this exist in Heaven? Why didnt Christ get born like us or didnt have sex? The 144K being undefiledby only vaginas? King david was bi. Nobody is a levitical priest anymore nor laying men in female beds. Centurion. Ruth and naomi. Ethiopian. Ronaldo. Truvada. Makes pussy cheaper for you. Why have them fornicate if they can have the covenants i just mentioned? READ THE BOOK YOU SPOUT OFF ABOUT, YOU HALF A FAGGOT CAPED CRUSADER

>>140147404
they seem like good libertarians

>>140147765
>stupid australian sheep will vote overwhelmingly in favor of this

the wogs might save us afterall

Abso-fuckin-lutely NO!!!
Marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman in order to have children. Since 2 ladies or 2 gentelman cannot make kids they should never be allowed to have a normal marriage. From a biological point of view there is no difference between having sex with a hole in a fence and having same gender sex. It is called masturbation, which does not lead to creating new life.

>>140150152
Only you think your pornos make you gay. I hate all these fucken theories. Image and likeness. Xq28 gene. The "nice" maymay. Where is your gene? Who raped you? Pence is probably a pedo and has 52 cats
>>140149982
The barren. The widowed. Same groups. Youre an asshole. Go raise your nokids. Golden rule! You think you dont sin? Youre the original sinning and sexual degenerates

>>140150281
One kike after another. You just repeated word for word what i replied to the crusader faggot. Everybody is at least bi. This is all freudian crap and not biblical

>>140150281
What about the childless heterosexual couples?

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>>140146955
I'm fine with it. Quite literally a non issue unless you drank too much bible koolaid or a dune coon

>>140148714
Perhaps for the first generation.. But what happens when all of these same sex couples want to raise children? Will they grow up to be stable productive and contributing members of society? What values will be instilled within them.. Traditions exist for a reason it is foolish to think we can just throw them out without any negative consequences. This does not even take into account the fact that most child abusers are homosexual. Most of them are not stable people and at the very least have a deep victim complex which will then be passed down to the unfortunate children they raise. This is just the next virtue signalling feel good cause. Another step into hell.. Whats next? Tranny children? normalizing of pedos?...

>>140146955
i stand against the idea of a marriage license all together.
its none of the government god dammed business who the church marries. Gay, straight, it should be up to the church

>>140150677
All deaths and all sins were created by adam and eve and their species mixing genitals. Thats it. Plenty of fucken closeted latent 61% divorce "heteros" and/or scat loving gay porn watching dykey jewess pedos

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>>140147363
oh
this

>>140150858
Nice France win. Nice 30% approval and pop vote loss

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>>140150324
>>youre an asshole

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Yes, marry in the legal sense and live your life happy.
As long as you're a Gay MAN and not a FAGGOT, then we will be ok.
Pic related are a homosexual men, they do not need to "prove it" by going all the time to degenerate pride demonstrations.
I may not agree with their views, but you can not deny that they are 1000 times more sane than faggots.

Let them do what they want

>>140150913
>Nice France win. Nice 30% approval and pop vote loss

um, wut?

>>140150942
>entire thread and 6000 years of doing exactly that; in fact saying only women assholes are ok; and i "can't" even call you one
K. Ive said much, in here. Logs and splinters. Let's say this is a splinter of mine. Bfd. Answer me on your own sins and bullshit. Wew raddies you "won"! Here's my dick you can suck on

>>140146955
No.

>>140150729
100% if anyone disagrees with your kys

>>140151031
You lost in france. You will lose with this. Jewmpf has a 30% approval. And he lost the votes of the people. Only 300 men in the jewlectoral jewllege made him "win"

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No. Faggot GTFO, Australia is a straight country.

>>140146955
No.

>>140151172
Thats why you run away from birds. From emus to magpies. Is that why youre drunken lazy welfare penal colonists? Yes

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>>140146955

>>140147363
nailed it , we had a vote on it here in ireland a few years ago. I voted yes just because I was still blue pilled and media were pushing the yes vote big time which I fell for hook line and sinker. Now I don't really care about the issue at all, but I would probably vote no just see the leftist meltdown

>>140151339
Old and fake and jewish and womany
>a dirty brown spaniard lisping his way through an anti gay stance
Fuck off

>>140146955
Yes

>>140150950

Patrick Stewart is not a homo.

>>140146955
Because marriage should be between two people and their god, not two people and their fucking government
Ban all marriage

>>140151639
Sacred band of thebes were. Beaten by a bisexual

>>140151420
Projecting this hard haha, show us your flag nigger.

>>140146955
>Marriage where do you stand?

Against it. Why should couples be given special treatment? Some of us are born ugly and will never attract a mate. It's not our fault. It's discrimination against ugly people.

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>>140146955
Gay marriage subverts and undermines the fundamental unit of society, the family.

It is also disgusting. It is the definition of degeneracy, it corrupts individuals and corrupts nations. Literally everyone thinks faggotry is disgusting, even if they've been bullied/brainwashed into tolerating it. Like my sister asked me what I would do if my son turned out to be gay. I said I wouldn't disown him, but would feel betrayed, cut him out of my will, and want nothing to do with him. Why should he inherit my legacy, when instead of honouring it and passing it on to future generations, he has decided to make a lifestyle out of putting cocks in his shitter? My sister was horrified and called me a vile person.

Faggotry is disgusting, morally wrong, and a betrayal of our ancestors. That's my natural, instinctive feeling, what my heart tells me. What is also true is that I've had sex with men before. When I explained that I wasn't talking out of ignorance, my sister was all like, EWWWWW, I DON'T WANNA KNOW. Even liberals are instinctively disgusted by faggots. You should bear that in mind when trying to force your degeneracy on society. There is more at stake than abstract rights for some fake identity that jews made up to destroy white nations.

>>140146955
I am an old school conservative

So i don't think the government should be involved in religious shit. Contract shit fine.

>>140151639
I thought he married Patrick in 2015?

>>140150522
>>140150522
Nothing. They can always change their minds. Homo couples cannot. If couples have no children, then after they die everything they worked for will be passed to some other couples with children, but that's their own choice. The meaning of life is to extend the species. Deal with it or extinct like every leftist should do.

>>140146955

It's a non-issue at this point

My biggest problem was that the Feds intervened when they said they wouldn't

Otherwise, I don't give a shit.

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>>140146955
No

Society has no vested interest in keeping gay couples together.

Marriage is a societal expression between a man and woman, that they intend to stay together and have children.

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>>140146955
This isn't the right question. The right question is wether the state should have the right to regulate and control marriage, determining who marries who and what needs to be done in that marriage, who gets the kids, the pet, the money, under what conditions, etc. If you de-regularize marriage in all of its forms the natural revulsion people have for same sex marriage will cause it to go extinct, turning it into nothing more than the fetish it is. Marriage will return to what it once was: a social contract with the explicit objective of having kids and leaving a legacy.
By asking wether gay marriage should be legal or not the Republitards shot themselves (and the US as well) in the foot: people will always, ALWAYS, vote to have more freedom unless there is some "enemy" that you need to be protected from. This enemy can be real (like a foreign country) or abstract (like the idea that gay marriage will destroy your country). The republicans never had a chance to construct a realistic enemy in order to keep gay marriage forbidden. Why is that? Because all the gays had to do was show to people they had lived alongside them all along, that gays have always existed and that never led to the downfall of society. This is a much easier message to give than what republicans tried.

>>140146955
Don't care if they get married as long as it's not in a church. Domestic partnership and marriage aren't equal. They're still sinning, who cares if they want to marry?

>>140146955
No. Don't civil unions have the same legal rights? They just want to take the word because it's a buzz word that's been romanticized throughout history and, people think they're 'edgy' to take the term from a conservative group and use it.

I haven't really looked into the origins of the word and if it's based in religion (which I am assume it is). If the word is religious based, then fuck off, leave their shit alone, get your own word and cultural/religious practice. However, non-religious straight couples get married which fucks the term if it's religion based.

Although it's impractical in legislation advertising and other things, you should probably just have marriage for religious people which has marriage embedded in their religion. Then, have everyone else with their own buzz phrase.

>>140152931
>Don't civil unions have the same legal rights?

Sorry, SCOTUS ruled a long time ago that separate is not equal. We need to shitcan the whole marriage thing. And separate bathrooms too. One shared public bathroom for everyone.

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>>140151165
>t. a faggot leftist melting the fuck down

this is exactly what i voted for
your chimp-out shit-posting is what i love
I dont get nearly as hung up on this political shit like you, i never cared.
I love watching you cry about muh pols, le frog election, and the electoral college B, the populist Hillary Clinton, TFO. As if I give a flying fuck. I love it.

Sodomy = Sin. I don't care if they get married right before they are stoned.

>>140146955
Marriage is subsidized by the state because the state needs nice fat cash cow teets to milk. Gay couples shouldn't get kids, cause they'll ruin them.

don't ban it but don't force it to happen.

>>140146955

Marriage is a religious idea not a govt one. Do all the churches, mosques, synagogues have to abide by it once it becomes law? Did the religious institutions petition for a law change. Why not give the gays civil unions and recognition by the state?

>>140146955

Don't give a fuck. Fags can enjoy shit marriages, too.

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>>140146955

Homosexuality should carry the death penalty.

If they stay closeted and keep it behind closed doors then they don't have anything to fear. But if they are public they should be killed.

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The argument was always fake. Everyone made it sound like a butt pirate was not entitled to find his own church and have a party.

It was about if sodomites needed federal and state marriage benefits along side Traditional marriage.

I have misguided aunt who left her husband for some degenerate 3 way relationship that with weirdos. Its probably would fall under a polygamist relationship which is not recognized.

I dont really give a shit people do, but Traditional marriage is superior. I think it a National state of hypocrisy to consider one kind of frowned upon sex ok, while others are not.

>>140153202
>SCOTUS
I was referring to the Australian legal system not America based on OP's flag and how gay marriage is a hot topic for us right now.

If civil unions don't have the same rights then they probably should. It serves as a legal contract like adoption so you can share wealth, see that person in hospital or whatever.

I don't think it's realistic to dismiss marriage as a concept because it's just a nice way of saying "Contract between two people for 'x' benefits".There needs to be a shift in stereotypes (which people act out because of the stereotype) and how the legal system treats both parties. Maybe a new word because people rally behind buzz words.

Shared bathrooms are a no go. Way too many fucked up cucks who will Chris Hansen some girl because they don't know about porn or being normal. You forget that most of the world are degenerate fucks and uncivilized even in first world.

>>140152243
What if technologies allow homos to have children together?
And they already do, only that's very expensive, afaik.

>>140146955
Against it. It's another push from the left to destroy western society.

>>140147958
They already have equal rights you moron. They can marry a woman if they want to. You're extending them more rights.

I don't really give a shit what gays do, I don't have to be a part of it. What they eat for breakfast matters as much to me as what they do together.

>>140149358
>they can adopt
They should never be allowed to adopt. Two gay men adopting is a bad position for society to be in.

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>>140146955
It encourages anti-biological behavior. Gay men should be put in a special military/work unit away from society where they can fuck each other and benefit society without corrupting it. End of discussion.

>>140150157
tldr abomination kys!

>>140152109
this

>>140159168
It seems to be a pretty common trait that keeps showing up in people. Gay people can still function normally and contribute like a straight person so they shouldn't be excluded. If there's fear of exclusion they will just hide it.

There should be some role models for gay people so they aren't committing suicide all over the place. Although the whole gay pride parade shit is disgusting and over the top.

They shouldn't be allowed to adopt because it just will fuck up the child's mental state because they will lack a female or male role model in that parental figure. Having the opposite sex as a teacher helps but it's not the same.

Needs to be repealed.
Milo shows that even the most sane of them are secretly pedos.

Trump needs to change it. Desu Vultu!

>>140146955
Not real. Marriage is a religious institution, which exempts gay 'marriages'.

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>>140146955
Government should get out of marriage completely. Straight marriage? Gay marriage? I don't give a shit, call your relationship whatever you want. Marriage should not be a government-recognized phenomenon.

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>>140146955
honestly I dont give a fuck as long as they keep their sex in the bedroom like everyone else.

I dont want faggot literally parading down the streets with their leaky dicks flapping about and crabs flying everywhere.

>>140161011
What would be the purpose of marriage then?

>>140161305
>that flag
>asking what the purpose of marriage without government is
kek

>>140147343
this

>>140146955
> How can you be against it?
Because God says so.

>>140146955
Gay marriage is a sham.

The point of marriage is to help maintain a strong bond for the family that should naturally come from sex.

Fags dressing up and having a really expensive party is not the same thing

Yes with no tax benefits

>>140146955
Against it.
It normalizing perversion.
Down the line people will be pushing for inter-species marriage.
Marriage is defined in America as between a man and woman.

>>140146955
no gay marriage and no civil unions. fucking degenerate leeches are lucky they aren't roof chucked as it is.

>>140146955
Married couples have priviliges which are in place to incite having children. Gay's can't have children therefore they should not have those priviliges.

>>140161011
wrong. we need to give tax breaks to hetero white families so we can beat the hoodrat nigger horde.

>>140150523
still falling for the jewish nihilism lolbertarian meme i see. degenerate.

>>140146955
Gay marriage and adoption is fine if they're sane and can afford it psychologically and ethnically. Luckily Lesbians don't fulfill mentioned requirements in the vast majority of cases and even gay men have to try hard and improve to the fullest

>>140168188
ethically*

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>>140146955

No vey you pufta cunts.

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>>140161301
yeah desu I wonder how many gay ppl are legitimately horrified at the gay parades in CA

>>140146955
No. Seeing them eye rape children is enough, now you wanna get them married and adopt those same kids?

>>140150324
>Only you think your pornos make you gay
Wew, never implied that lad though they certainly don't help the normie

>>140146955
Proponents of same-sex marriage ask: Is keeping the definition of marriage as man-woman fair to gays?
Opponents of same-sex marriage ask: Is same-sex marriage good for society?

Is the man-woman definition of marriage fair to gays who wish to marry? No, it isn’t.

But whether a policy is fair to every individual can never be the only question society asks in establishing social policy. Eyesight standards for pilots are unfair to some terrifically capable individuals. A mandatory retirement age is unfair to many people.
Wherever there are standards, there will be unfairness to individuals.

So, the question is whether redefining in the most radical way ever conceived — indeed completely changing its intended meaning — is good for society.

There is a fierce battle taking place to render meaningless the man-woman distinction, the most important distinction regarding human beings’ personal identity.

It will hasten the end of the male-female distinction and of any significance to mothers or fathers as distinctive entities.
It will mean that those who, for religious or other reasons, wish to retain the man-woman definition of marriage will be legally and morally as isolated as racists are today.

No, look at all the bullshit from the yes mob, bullying anyone with a different opinion. The fathers day as is a perfect example, just this morning also they got a doctor or something fired because she was in a no ad.

>>140146955
It shouldn't be an issue of government. If the government is to be involved though, it should recognize same sex marriage.

>>140147463
This