SKY KING! CRACKING THE CODE EDITION!

Nice pic to use. I was there once. It was kinda funny, the looks I was given.

Also, hopefully people don't get as butthurt in this thread.

To the anon who thinks he can "decode" messages sent over these stations, actually have a go at something that's not literally impossible.

>NGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJL
OHIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJL
PIJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLM
QJLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMN
RLMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQ
SMNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQU
TNQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUV
UQUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVW
VUVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWX
WVWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZ
XWXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZK
YXZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKR
ZZKRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZKRY
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCD

its impossible to decode hence why they still use it.

>>140136082
Bog if true

>>140136450
>>140136531
It's impossible to have a running cipher for them. I'm not arguing that. But individual messages can be decoded given enough time, though by then, the information is obsolete. Seriously, you're that fucking butthurt someone is trying to figure out a puzzle?

>>140136531
Why is it impossible to decode?

>>140136821
I'm not butthurt bro. by all means go for it.

skytendies :(

>>140136872
They change the codes everyday. So unless you have that days ledger you won't know what they mean.

>>140136821
>But individual messages can be decoded
No they can not. Read a book. Learn what 'one time pad' means.

Well Best Korea's radio is gone quite now. Did it happen?

>>140137037
Ah thanks info.

>>140136872
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad#Perfect_secrecy
"Claude Shannon proved, using information theory considerations, that the one-time pad has a property he termed perfect secrecy; that is, the ciphertext C gives absolutely no additional information about the plaintext. This is because, given a truly random key which is used only once, a ciphertext can be translated into any plaintext of the same length, and all are equally likely. Thus, the a priori probability of a plaintext message M is the same as the a posteriori probability of a plaintext message M given the corresponding ciphertext."

I can't ask access to website by phone is there any app that allows me to listen to the radio

Callsigns can sometimes be recognized. we had a message for
>DARK1-3
in the last thread
DARK is the callsign for the 7th Bomber Wing, '1-3' is the callsign for a specific aircraft in that wing

>>140137037
Doesn't mean an old code can't be deciphered. It may take years, and by that point the information is pointless, but it can be done. It was done with Enigma. Everyday new set. Deciphered months later when the data was useless.

Learn to read moron.

>>140137201
Ciphers and cryptography always interested me. Although I barely understand it. Even as a software developer.
Hence I don't try to roll my own cryptos. As one shouldn't.

>>140136082
I don’t hear shit.

>>140137335
source?

>>140137414
Fun fact, you probably won't. Give it like 30mins-6 hours lol

>>140137078
I understand what a one time pad is. However, if you go through the possible permutations removing known, used, or otherwise overly simplistic codes, you're are bound to find it. It just takes time. For example, removing all variants of a Cesar cipher, you've just removed a series of unneeded attempts.

>>140137349
One time pads are not like enigma. There is NO algorithm. There is ZERO relation between characters of the message. There is no way to use a crib.

You. Can. Not. Crack. Them.

>>140137414
There haven't been messages for about 2 hours now. I think this is covers everything:

1.10PM EDT Sep 3rd 2017

Message 1:
Original
For: Dark 1 3
Y U 2 K K V Y 5 7 6 B C G A G 5 F I G E K B D Y 6 7 M U C D

Message 2:
Original
For: customliner cool cress
Y U 4 7 7 J I F 5 Y F F F 2 G F G S C 2 F O X A J M 3 T L X

1:23PM EDT
Message 1:
Original
B A I A Z 4 6 Z F R D W P F B A E P H 2 X 2 Z A 7 S R 7 F W

2:00PM EDT
Message 1:
Original
Y U R E 7 X 4 7 X 6 N P T V J 7 L 7 X K I S 5 6 D D S S P J 2 A A E Z K

2:40PM EDT
Message 1:
Original
For Rental
Y U U V X P U H Z 6 X D J C I U 4 5 4 G I V I I V F S N 7 R

3:20PM EDT
Message 1:
Original
YUJUPMPZIQCM7BWWWFGA2VCWT2VCBJ2TGH5A5MZ2ILN3W4MC2DRIOJG647GLVVIOC3F5A5MZ2I233F4MC2DRW

>>140137078
I don't know who you think you're dealing with but this >>140136821 anon literally decodes Ovaltine ciphers in his sleep and WITHOUT the decoder ring.

>>140137638
It is not a fucking cipher. Jesus Christ shut up. There is no fucking algorithm. It is pure random noise, NOT pseudo-randomly generated. PURE.

Penis water pistol Britbong was asking about a cheaper receiver with SSB in the previous thread. Have a nosey at the Tecsun PL-660. I bought one from anon-co on ebay for around £80 delivered. They're in Hong Kong so it'd take about a week to arrive.

>>140137335
The Forward Deployed Lancers at Andersen AFB, Guam are from the 28th Bomb Wing out of Ellsworth. The 7th Bomb Wing just returned stateside to Dyess AFB in early August after 6 months Forward deployment at Andersen.

>>140136082
reporting in

>>140137793
Explain how it's purely randomly generated?
>>140137773
... Riiight...

>>140137596
Callsign list is in OP >http://www.panix.com/~clay/scanning/Frequencies/Military/mil-callsigns.txt
not up to date as stated but a week ago we had a message to DOOM82 a B-52H bomber DOOM is the callsign for the 2nd Bomber Wing according to that list.

13845.34

wat

>>140138048
thanks thats Good to know

>>140138217
>13845.34
tune it to AM. Christ on the Radio

>>140136821
You're still thinking that a code is the same thing as a cipher. It's not.

Let's have a character strings of
>Xray Zulu 3 Bravo 9 Alpha 4 6 1
>Yankee Zulu 3 Alpha 3 3 6 Charlie Papa
>Papa Uniform 2 Lima Oscar 5 2 3 5

These three messages, under the same encoding, can all mean
>the same thing
>different things
>nothing
>a combination thereof

Add into that, you can change what they mean without changing the encoding scheme at all. During every even hour, maybe you swap the designation of the filing cabinets where 1 is now 3, 3 is two, and 2 is one, during odd hours, it's 1=1, 2=2, 3=3, and on Tuesdays at midnight you swap the contents of the folders. The 6th of every month, you might get entirely new contents for each of the folders...and all of this is ignoring the fact that there could be multiple levels of authentication. Like maybe the first three characters are your authentication, but you add in "if ever there are two consecutive characters the same in a transmission after the authentication block, even if the message is otherwise authenticated, the message is not authentic"...etc. etc. etc.

You can't know the universe of possible messages and without that you can't even begin to figure out what portion of the message is the authentication, what's the actual message, and within the message how many characters are given to a given division of of the possible decoded states. Maybe a filing cabinet gets one character, maybe 8. The folder designation might get 4, or 3, or 2, or 1, and so on. Hell, they have goddamn filing cabinets that open to different compartments based on what key you use.

If you don't know the setup, you can't begin to figure out what's being said. The importance of these stations isn't in figuring out what's being said, it's noticing that something's being said at all.

>>140138217

Some religious junk.. 13845 at a wide 4.16 filter makes it very clear.

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SHould I buy a Baofeng BF-F8HP?
What would I be able to do with this shitty chicom setup?

>>140137732
Another message
NOROM UOY SIHT EDOCED OT GNIYRT POTS

Anyone got any clue?

>>140138217
Shortwave is full of stuff like that.
>>140138317
So you mean to tell me, even browsing though all the possible permutations for the transmitted code there is absolutely no way to decode anything whatsoever? Go on spookmaster, teach this padawan.

>>140137666
Yes. There is an algorithm. IT CALLED LANGUAGE YOU FUCKING MORON. If the message makes actual fucking SENSE, it can be cracked.

The code may be random, and that makes it difficult, but the underlying message is not. That means it can be cracked. Just not in a timely manner.

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A DC10 just showed up over Japan.

>>140138582
>something about yoghurt pots

>>140137732
>customliner cool cress
FOUND THE CYPHER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dasab33h1nQ

I ordered a Tecsun PL880 radio and a Sangean ANT-60 antenna, along with some other prepper gear... Take care of yourselves.

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>>140138567
Unless you have a HAM Tech or greater, you won't be able to transmit with it.

The antennas are terrible. Upgrade to a 771 whip antenna (any brand; Nagoya is the best) or a roof mount for your car.

You'll be able to Simplex chat locally and Duplex chat on repeaters for about 100-150 miles.

Download CHIRP and get pic related data cable to program it. (It's annoying as fuck to program without CHIRP).

You'll be able to chat on 2 meter and 70 cm bands only with it.

SKY KANGZ livestream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0b_s0oVvVI

>>140138831
That's a KC-10.

>>140138648
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information-theoretic_security
literally just google it

>>140138669
The transmitted code has no relation to the plaintext other than its length... there are many 'sensible' permutations of any given length of plaintext. You're also ignoring that the code may not be in plain English to keep the character count down.

>>140138567
What do you want to do with it? That's the question? For example, in Chicago, police are still running an analog system for their radios, you can listen in, even broadcast. I wouldn't suggest the later. You can use them on FRS/GMRS frequencies, now it's compatible with bubble pack radios. You know someone with a MURS radio? Great, now you can talk to them with it. I've used mine to intercept packet data as well. Though a bit poorly, the receive on those is finicky at best.

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>>140138147
have you got an audio of that doom?

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>>140138567
Don't buy the HP.

It will make batteries die fast on high power and you risk an RF burn especially on UHF.

Get yourself a UV-B5, which is a nice little dual bander or the UV-5X3 which is a tri-bander which gives you 220.

>>140138648
>So you mean to tell me, even browsing though all the possible permutations for the transmitted code there is absolutely no way to decode anything whatsoever? Go on spookmaster, teach this padawan.
Yes. Because that's not where the message is. The message is in the paper in the folder. The transmission is just pointing you to the intended folder.

It's like, say I send this message:
>gnilcricerasdrazzubeht
You, in your infinite skill, would quickly notice that it's just "the buzzards are circling" backwards. Ok, and? Wtf does that mean?
Now suppose before I sent that, I talked with the guy I sent it to and said, alright, if I send you this, it means to get me a pizza. You have no way of knowing that. You can watch the receiver at the message is received to see what they do, but you won't be sure that's what I told him because he's going to do a shitton of stuff other than get that pizza...and even that requires figuring out who the receiver is. Imagine I sent that to my entire phone contact list of 300 people. Now you've got to watch them all and try to figure it out.

>>140139155

https://soundcloud.com/rickf-2

>>140138971

Turn off that dumb noise reduction.

>>140138669
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad#Attempt_at_cryptanalysis

"In fact, it is possible to "decrypt" out of the ciphertext any message whatsoever with the same number of characters, simply by using a different key, and there is no information in the ciphertext which will allow Eve to choose among the various possible readings of the ciphertext."

You didn't even read the fucking wikipedia entry, let alone actually do one by hand. You're a fucking moron.

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Anythoughts on this ?

>>140138925
Nagoya is over-rated over-priced.

The Baofeng 6.5 inch dual band antenna is fine. The 220 antenna which is a little closer to 7 inches also is good for listening to FM broadcast.

>>140136082
This shit makes me proud because I was the one that introduced it here.
Now it has turned into Windtalkers irl.

Fucking glorious!

Another one now, didn't record

>>140140048
was just radio check

You know what, I'm not even going to bother talking to the "can't be cracked" fags anymore. It's just the same thing, "It can't be done." I'll just leave you guys to your little pissing contest. I do it for fun, out of boredom. I do it because I'm curious. Hell, if things weren't done because people told them it was impossible, nothing would ever be done.
>>140139226
Sadly, the output of the UV-5X3 is pretty bad on 220. Most of my tests showed barely 1 watt out on three different ones. Unless it was improved over the past 4 months.

>>140140048
Just a radio test.

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>>140139281
Loud&clear, nice, thank you.

Diego Garcia with a rare radio check in.

Recording of the radio check:

https://youtu.be/H0b_s0oVvVI?t=33m25s

Sorry for being a burden guys but can anyone explain what skyking is? I am fully versed on kryptos. I see these threads a lot but always pass them by.

>>140139279
>>140138648
To go a little further, sigint of this kind isn't analyzed in the way you're thinking about analyzing it.

It's analyzed by attempting to create correlations between broadcasts and events. With this flurry of activity, if I were say, Chinese intel, I'd be looking to see what units are doing what, especially trying to find one that's doing something that it doesn't normally do under these circumstances. One or two instances won't tell me much, but, over time, if someone isn't paying attention and a pattern starts forming, I might be able to figure out that this kind of transmission is instructions to say strategic bomber units...or, as the case likely is, they want me to think that these are messages to strategic bomber units.

Recall, the people sending these know literally everyone is listening. They also know what kind of stuff the people listening tend to pay attention to.

That is my original is not out there anywhere else.

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>>140138925
>>140139057
>>140139226
just want to listen mostly, only would broadcast in a situation where the FCC is no longer relevant. Don't know anything about programming or CHIRP but i love listening and I'm sick of utwente. So my question is this? What does it do? What did I just buy?

>>140140345
Look up "numbers stations" for an idea.

>>140140098
Dude, it can't be done, kek get rekt.

>>140140345
US Air Force communications system. Skyking is a priority message. They send less important traffic via "All stations" ("standby while I transmit this message unless you have Skyking or Foxtrot traffic, please.")

We can't crack them, we're just interested in the amount of calls and unusual calls.

>>140140098
Watch that movie about Enigma.. Imitation Game.

You're not *that* bored.

>>140140774
Thanks

>>140140549
Thanks

>>140140821
nope, there you were dealing with ciphers, not codes. Codes are an entirely different ballpark from ciphers.

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>>140140487
It won't pick up what Twente picks up. You need an HF All Band receiver.

You can build an mcHF for under $300, or you can buy a Chinese stolen design for $600. (Recent RS-918SSB) or Get a Shortwave HamBro recommends in these threads.

The BaoFengs are for local HAM stuff, mostly.

>>140140487
Just listening, go cheap. New versions of the Baofeng UV-5R have a working SSI (signal strength indicator), which was a surprise for me to see when I was programming someones radio. CHIRP is a pretty simple programming suite for use on quite a few radios. It works pretty well too. You just need a cable. You can pick them up cheap as well. Also, just about any other antenna beyond the shitty one you get with it. Look up "Radio Reference" online. It's a good site to use. You can look up your county and get frequency lists for just about everything there from police, to city services, to schools, to taxis, etc.

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Idk I like this layout of coded message.

>>140138971
Good time, I caught the aids

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g-guys
>>140139949
>>140140530

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>>140140267
Make the scrolling text comic sans, I see you adjusting it.

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>>140141304
fake and gay

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>>140140774
If this thread somehow managed to (even accidentally) crack a message, would everyone get v&ed?

>south korea launches ballistic missile test
>test count

Yea old Putin is going to send him back to the stone age. 6th nuclear test. They say 7th is the lucky number.

When did this station become so dead?

I remember it transmitting every few minutes in the past.

>>140141665
It's not illegal in most countries to listen to things on the radio.

No one can crack these ciphers or they wouldn't use them. Say, somehow, an Anon leaked a code book and we read a message, only the leaker could get in any real trouble. (But then the cipher is used up and we won't be able to read the next one.)

>>140141665
Sigh...you can't. As in 100% you absolutely cannot decode these messages, especially since most of them there is nothing to decode.

interesting sounds on 8995 just now

https://vocaroo.com/i/s1yVKEkiwOPN

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what the fuck was that sounds just now on 8992?

(I meant 8992 in prev msg) and what did I just miss on 11175?!

>>140142116
>>140142120
ayylmaos

Is "Original" DC?

>>140142120
Interference. 8992 is prone to that from JORN, PLUTO II and localized interference.

Park on 11175 to not pick up unrelated sounds.

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I cracked it. They said it's habbedin

>>140142260
A test message

>>140142116
>>140142120
>>140142271
This is why I don't leave it on 8992. You get shit like this.

>>140140098
Stupid nigger it's mathematically proven to be impossible and even simple logic dictates that any message of same length fits so you can never know the message. You are so fucking dumb, neck yourself jiggaboo

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>>140142282
Andrews (Air Force Base) would be D.C. (Andersen would be Guam, Diego would be Diego Garcia, Puerto Rico would be Puerto Rico, et al).

Original is the callsign of a station today that is suspected of being a mobile command post like a Nightwatch or Mercury.

I am using eatcoldpie to see if I get any encoding hit. hope I don't get cryptosporidium.

>>140140130
bless the anon who drew this

>>140142611
>mobile command
>mercury
>The Boeing E-6 Mercury (formerly E-6 Hermes) is an airborne command post and communications relay based on the Boeing 707-320. The original E-6A manufactured by Boeing's defense division entered service with the United States Navy in July 1989, replacing the EC-130Q. It conveyed instructions from the National Command Authority to fleet ballistic missile submarines (see communication with submarines), a mission known as TACAMO (TAke Charge And Move Out).

jesus christ, our military is sick as fuck dude

i like how south korea is like "LOOK WE CAN LAUNCH SHIT TO THE OCEAN TOO"

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>>140142821
Nightwatch is even more badass. They call it a "Flying Pentagon" for a reason.

>>140138648
Are you fucking retarded?
For a message consisting of less than 100 chars you have permutations on the order of the number of fucking atoms in the observable universe.

OBKRUOX
OGHULBS
OLIFBBW
FLRVQQP
RNGKSSO
TWTQSJQ
SSEKZZW
ATJKLUD
IAWINFB
NYPVTTM
ZFPKWGD
KZXTJCD
IGKUHUA
UEKCAR*

>>140138831

I wonder if thats one of the two converted to provide liquid nitrogen fuel to the SB-3 Ghoul

>>140143684
It was strange, it seemed to be flying out over the Pacific and then just disappeared from the map.

>>140143918
Turned off its transponder when it was out of normal air routes. All our overseas forces seem to do that.

redpill me on squelch

>>140144254

Mutes until a signal is received.

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>>140142491

I'm not hearing anything exciting OP

>>140144254
It's a highpass filter that only lets through signals of the set dB strength or higher. It generally works well because stray noise is usually of a lower strength than actually broadcast signal. Problem though is if you're trying to listen to a pretty weak signal, you'll be cutting it out too.

so much pain delivered just now

Frogs? On my 8992kHz?

wtf was that

>>140145341
a nothing burger in audio format

>decoding xor without OTP