Is science the ultimate redpill

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>>140127685
>evolved ape

>>140127935
we weren't apes in the way people normally believe

In the sense that we didn't look like any of the living monkeys/apes

It's just a name for us. But it's the equivelent of calling a shark a fish

>>140127685
Physics is god. calculus' it's prophet

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""science"" is not one distinct thing, and plenty of scientists grapple with the profound existential implications of discoveries made about nature. we're evolved apes who were able to discover that electromagnetism and the weak nuclear force were once united, as well as to struggle with the gargantuan problems of transcendence and meaning.

>>140127685
Science is what stupid people perceive as smart.

Pleb-tier woke.

>>140127685
Um, no sweetie. Scientific racism is the ultimate redpill.
Also, why this thread? I hope you're not one those subhumans who think science and religion are polar opposites.

modern science is a fucking joke. Seriously, go to any physics website and take off your blinders and you will see it reads more like the screeds of 7th century witchdoctors than it does mechanical, physical science. Seriously, I have to wonder whether anyone is even awake anymore that people can take modern physics seriously. Quantum entanglement? Teleportation? Black holes? Really? This is the best physics has to offer? And to think, Stephen Hawking had the balls to proclaim that we are a decade away from understanding everything in the physical realm, and he said this 15 years ago! What the fuck, people. Wake up.

>>140130096
yeah actually let's listen to this guy

>>140127685
Science gives me the method to find God if it's there.

Who took the picture, OP?

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>>140127685

Science is only a tool to understand the material universe, the one in which we can normally perceive and measure. However, questions that address a more immaterial issue - "What is my purpose?" "Why do I exist?" "What is the origin of life and the universe?" "What do I want to eat for dinner?" - can only be addressed through the mythological imagination. Science is useless in this regard.

because muh god created this all in 6 days and didn't do shit with the rest of eternity.

>>140127935
Science says humans came from apes, read a fucking book,

>>140128358
>implying Physics explains Metaphysics
https://youtu.be/_20yiBQAIlk

>>140133922
Humans ARE apes you fucking sperg. Read a fucking book.

>>140134231
Humans are part of the primate family. Read a book idiot.

>>140127685
Its not a red pill it is the black pill of existential nihilism, the final realization that nothing truly matters at all. That everything we are, we think, we do is utterly pointless and meaningless, every single achievement we as humans have done is completely insignificant, that in a million years no one would even realize we existed, every value or morality we have is no more than a value of what an ant would have in its life, that we as whole mean far far less to the universe than a single bacteria means to us.

>>140127685
Looking at galaxies it's quite clear we are a holographic projection from within central galactic black holes.

>>140127685
>it reduces humanity to an evolved ape
>what are humans with o neg blood
>what are humans that are rhesus neg
Ya blew it OP

>>140135016
no matter how many idiotic theories I encounter on this website I can always be sure there will be something more asinine than I ever could have imagined

>>140127685
sage

>>140135590
You hold no power here, wizard

>>140134537
Google the word Ape holy shit.
This is why /pol/ hates science, cause you retards think "ape" is a type of fucking monkey or some shit.
Humans. Are. Inarguably. Apes.

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>>140135733
checked
also
jesus christ is lord

>>140135935
24 vs 23 pairs of chromosomes

Nope.

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>>140130096
The reason for this is that we have a good understanding of most of the observable factors of the universe, and have rules to explain things. The issue is that these rules break down at the extremes of the scale, meaning that we are currently trying to rectify this breakdown with how our rules usually work. As for wierd advanced shit, China literally just managed to teleport a photo from the Gobi Desert into space, so it isn't as if this shit is confirmed to be impossible. My point is that it sounds like we're taking shots in the dark because we are. We have to explore this new facet of the universe without clearly understanding why anything does anything, just like early scientists did.

Science continues to claim that we live on a sphere, so science is completely subverted by the globalists

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Mayor Who Called Michelle Obama "Ape In Heels" Resigns

Michelle Obama is not an ape

Michelle is a man.

>>140136185
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

>>140136204
>a good understanding
lol what? Implying cosmologists aren't just making shit up at this point.

>>140136185
humans are classified as apes tho.

>>140136524
23 vs 24

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Building a better microscope doesn't mean you've seen everything.

>Acknowledges we are basically chimps.

>Thinks we understand the universe/creation.

>>140136613
*mis*classified
See >>140136185

>>140130096
Quantum mechanics can be demonstrated though. You just don't understand what you're reading.
Explain how quantum computers work if quantum physics is bullshit.

>>140136663
what kind of logic is this? down syndrome potatos have 47 chromosomes

>>140136534
Whatever they guess about is usually backed up by our current understanding of physics. Black holes could actually be secret Illuminati wizard cultists using the power of hentai and calculus to project invisibility fields, but it's just more likely to be incredibly dense matter. The point is that we do the best we can with the information available to us

>>140136765
>implying quantum computers work

>>140127685
But you don't know beyond atoms what is consciousness hydrogen doesn't follow quantization and NASA uses chi for half of it.

>>140136663
Rhesus monkeys have 21 pairs, capuchin monkeys have 27, that doesn't mean they aren't fucking apes holy shit.

>>140136765
we really should draw the line between (((naturalism))) and science tho, most (((scientists))) have become zealots and it is seriously hindering our progress

>>140137027
lol this, quantum mechanics is mostly memes with just a few things that actually work

>>140127685
Humans are apes the same way that computers are just made of melted sand.

>>140136912
I can argue with someone who doesn't understand the fundamental differences between two things that are supposedly the same.
>>140136963
Untestable theory is untestable. Try to keep up.

>>140127685
Reality is the exact sum of probability determined by external unknowns.

itt a bunch of bluepilled jesus cucks.

>>140127685

(((Science))) is a tool to spread mass disinfo and to easily brainwash people.

>>140137116
>monkey
>ape
So many Brainlets ITT

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do some trumps

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D1jR5NCI21I

>>140127685
That's the Andromeda Galaxy pictured.

>>140137534
Holy shit now monkeys aren't apes either?
There's no way this isn't b8.. Right?

>>140137365
you are free to argue the misclassification of humans (i.e evolution/common ancestry)

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>>140137474
>>140127685

>22:27:27 No.140137474

Now is all there is.

>>140137658
monkeys, apes, and humans are primates

>>140137807
lrn2biology
Just because we're primates doesn't mean we aren't apes. We're mammals too, by the way. Guess that means we can't be primates?

>>140137658
Ape=/=Primate

Abo education everyone

>>140137660
Tell me about that species jump from 24 to 23 pairs of chromosome, the first human mated with what?

>>140127685

It's the ultimate bluepill, you newfag reddit cuck.

Read Guenon and Evola before you say any more dumb shit.

>>140135368
Wat. That's literally the current scientific consensus.

>>140137807
based on the history and the scientific model used to explain the origins of the universe and the theory of evolution. All of which are being challenged now because many people are realizing the truth, we will approach the technological singularity when people like your self no longer exist...

A new reality will emerge as a fork from this one, only the versions of people that are compatible with it will emerge on it, this place will go out in a blue light...

>>140137939
all apes are monkeys, but not all monkeys are apes. Just as all humans are apes, but not all apes are human.

>>140138046

oy vey goy we (((evolved)))

>>140138046
Primate is the order we belong to, there are two subfamilies of apes within that order, Gibbons (lesser apes) and Hominids (great apes)

We fit under Hominids, which makes us inarguably apes, despite being primates.

Fuck yanks are dumb.

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>>140138458

>>140138479
While I'm glad your Abo brain finally pieced together that humans are hominids,but humans are not great apes. Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes which is clear distinction from the definition and group.

>>140139609
Aight well played. There's now no chance this is a serious conversation on your part. 7/10 took me too long to notice I took the b8.

>>140138754
Are you saying that I am wrong? If so I 'd interesting in why you think that?

I've shifted many times...

>>140137365
I'm merely stating that we assume less by holding to this theory than any other

>>140139920
Isnt it odd that this Abo has yet to address the 23 vs 24 chromosome pair "problem' - while trying to group humans with Apes? It's like he skips that part every time.

>>140127685
No, as more scientists begin to understand the complexities and perfection of the natural world, physics etc the more they believe there was a design. The idea of all it happening by chance or accident is incredibly slim really. It would be more probable that it was not an accident would it not?

>>140127685
Science is difficult for people to grasp because it's been reduced to "Did you know" factoids in msm.

Also, science exists outside of culture and worldview, so it's difficult to see physical truths without the hindrance of social implications and context. It's then another challenge to relay those truths using language, which is a tool of cultural shorthand.

The scientific method and Popperian Hypothetico Deductivism is also not something that just came about naturally, it had to be thought about to solve philosophical problems of truth and trustworthiness. The method itself is difficult to comprehensively explain.

We then face the further challenge of not knowing whether the cognitive upper limits of humans are adequate for understanding the mechanisms of reality. We can't explain phones to apes, so why assume the universe can be explained to homo sapiens?

>>140127685
Science is just a method. Butthurt nihilists have hijacked it as a vehicle for their barely concealed despair, and now write the things you do, i.e "humans are le aminals with chamikals in brain and we is just spaiz doost". It has nothing to do with science, it's not technically incorrect, but it is an obviously biased way of describing things, you can go the opposite route and come up with a fantastical description of human beings that is still entirely accurate. In my opinion, the fact that life's constituent matter is forged in the core of a star and then subsequently during one of the most violent processes in the entire universe, supernovae, is incredible and makes me feel elated, not brought down because I am "just a le irrelevant spaiz doost", especially since "relevance" and "meaning" are entirely human concepts. Also science is a means of discovering red pills, and can be ignored by faggots when it is not convenient, as we see in the case of anything to do with racial study or trans study that isn't politically correct but is in fact scientifically rigorous.

>>140140240
I'm not against theories, but these published articles with pure speculation, where every other word is maybe/we think/it could be etc, is paraded out as some empirically derived or directly observed discovery, and its not. Its another untestable theory some "Black Science Man" wannabe vomitted up after ODing on federally funded (((grants))).

>>140140550
Is that true? I read a rundown of Tool's Forty Six and 2 that referred to Aboriginal people having fewer chromosomes (and how that relates to worldview) but never followed it up.

>>140140947
Exactly hence reality is the sum of all

>>140140550
See
>>140137116

It's not even up for debate. Literally 100% of biologists agree we're apes you literal retard. Chromosomes are not a fucking indicator of what family a species is a part of.

Kingdom > Phylum > Class > Order > Family > Genus > Species.

How have you never been taught how that system works? Mammal is the Class, Primate is the Order, Hominid is a subfamily of apes. We are all of those things. Fuck me, cunt, not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?

>>140140550
These guys have 23 pairs of chromosomes just like humans. I guess we aren't apes after all, we're crustacean..

>>140144310
Forgot link
These guys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parhyale_hawaiensis

>>140142999
>Kingdom > Phylum > Class > Order > Family > Genus > Species.

thank you for proving this a simulation and that its creator is know as GOD.

>>140127685
It doesn't reduce humanity to anything. You do, by rigidly labeling yourself as nothing more than a complex chemical reaction living on a speck of dust. You can live your whole life without really paying attention to science's big ideas. But if those big ideas are all you can really think about, you aren't thinking about your life. On a metaphorical level you might as well be dead if you're so impeded by your cosmic terror.

>>140142999
>>140144310
>>140144376
Listen here m8, i'll help you.
Apes are hominids
Humans are hominids
Apes are not human
Humans are not Apes

You must be King of your Abo tribe or something. Unequalled among your kinsman, but damn if you under stand basic concepts.

your brain is made to run more than one operating system.

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>>140145122

Lemme break it to you, burgermongrel : humans are not only ''apes'', but monkeys, you fucking mongrel.

If you don't know anything about taxonomy, and more specifically, our family's phylogenetic nomenclature, just don't try to classify humans. It takes 30 mins to learn it so yeah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmWbgKzpew4

Humans shall never stop being cercopithecidae nor catarrhines.

>>140146576
one of those things is not like the other, i see one with 23 pairs of chromosomes, while the others have 24. Care to guess which?

>>140146576
I was never born a monkey, how could I have evolved from something that I am not?

I find it strange that so few people are interested in the special theory of relativity and how things actually works in the wider scope of the universe.

>>140147687
>implying anybody really has definitive proof

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>>140148307

itt people larping as non-monkeys even though they are catarrhinis and simiiformes

And imblying imbgligations that we don't have definite proof of relativity even though we factor it in many consumer products and have detected gravitational waves, lensing and black holes

the level of scientific retardation on pol is unacceptable. the collective zeitgeist has modern politics mostly right, but is utterly disinterested and ignorant of the natural world

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>>140127685

The problem with 3-dimensional space is, no matter how FAR you go out, you'll never really 'get' anywhere.

In order to go 'out', we need to move dimensionaly.

>>140137658
You must be a brainley Aussie because monkeys aren't apea, they are a different family pf primates. Apes are gibbons, chimps, gorillas, humans, etc.
It seems we are very confused about the classification of primates in this thread.

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>>140127685
See, the milky way is flat. That picture taken by a camera from outside the galaxy proves it. Earth is also flat as are all the planets. The sun would also be flat if it wasn't burning

>>140149092
>he fell for the gravitonal wave meme
HAHAHAHA, holy shit. Brainlets abound in this thread.

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>>140127685

Looks like McDonald's has clued in how cucked Canada is. Don't forget to thumb this fucking thing down!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f0ZrpiQ4RKo

Idiot, science is simply a tool to understand and manipulate the universe around us.

Special Relativity is actually pretty simple. It's merely a transform for data in a different set of coordinates, it's nothing about time-travel or the fucking garbage that most modern physicists claim it to be. It has nothing to do with black hole wells or warp-speed travel, it's just a transform between two coordinate systems for things traveling near c. You can see the current state of physics by seeing how few scientists even understand special relativity. Special relativity does not mean time travel, it does not mean paradoxical twins, it doesn't mean dead cats are alive and multiverse garbage. It's just a way to calculate the difference between local time and non-local time.

>>140149816
What are you talking about?
Are you just fishing for (you)s? Or do you have anything to say about the discovery of gravitational waves?

oh and there's no proof for gravity waves, faggots. the fact that you buy into that means you're so lacking in your fundamental understanding of physics that you should quit trying.

Read this, dumbass. http://milesmathis.com/guth.pdf
Miles Mathis inextricably proves that the gravity wave theory is nothing but a mathematical fudge.

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>>140149434

MONKEYS ARE APES you retarded fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmWbgKzpew4#t=3m37s

two separates sets of monkeys could not have come from an ancestor that WASNT A MONKEY itself, and we found many of those ancestors, and they were all basal anthropoidae (clearly monkeys), ancestors to BOTH catarrhini (us) and platyrrhini (new world monkeys).


It's only in the reteraded Merriam Webster/Oxford dictionary that monkeys and apes are separate. Not in French, not in Russian, not in my language. In Spanish only recently.

It's only a non-scientific, non-taxonomic semantic manipulation by dictionary editors and the media that has nothing to do with the proper, empirically supported classification of anthropoidae. Which are all monkeys.


Furthermore, saying ''all of them are the same except for us'' is a Freudian admission that we already know we are one of them.

>>140150045
>it does not mean paradoxical twins, it doesn't mean dead cats are alive

No, because that's quantum mechanics

>>140150510

apes are monkeys, damn*

>>140150442
>Miles Mathis

Never heard of him before

>>140150442
>The majority of his papers are an exercise in trying to justify a haphazard Unified Field, in which anything goes, including a mathematical proof of pi equaling 4.[2][11] He states that he can say and do anything he wants because he has to answer to nobody.

I'm not gonna reply to you anymore

>>140150846
>Miles Mathis
some pseudoscience, cospiracy theorist moron
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Miles_Mathis

>>140127685
Fuck, we are in Andromeda.

>>140133922
Its not that we came from apes, its that we share a common ancestor. We evolved to be smart. They evolved to fling poo. Educate yourself retard.

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>>140127685
Yes.

Space is the final redpill.

An endless playground for humanity. Lefties can have their multicultural utopia on one planet, rightists can have their white utopia on another planet. And libertarians can establish their communities on other planets and asteroids.

There is enough space for everyone in space. The earth is too small to contain us anymore.

>>140149725
I can't take you seriously

>>140151638
/thread

>>140127685
Yes, absolutely.

>>140127685
Science is the blackpill.

Wow, you googled his name and then pasted the first black wash on him you could find, instead of actually reading his works. Really impressive criticism, I almost thought I was sparring with Popper himself. Faggot.

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>>140127685
>It reduces humanity as being an evolved ape and states we are nothing more than complex chemical reactions and it reduces earth as a speck of dust in a potentially ever expanding universe

Learn to tell the difference beween a red-pill and a black-pill.

You want the REAL red-pill that most people flat-out reject?
Science is bullshit, it's just another temple and it doesn't matter. In fact the technological "progress" you point to as testament to the value of science is just a parasitic egregore that has hijacked human evolution to further it's own development. It will suck humanity dry, and our dying act as a species just before we slip into extinction will be to launch it into space, ostensibly so that humanity apocalypse can "survive" by launching gene samples into space, but in actuality just so it's robotic spores can spread to other worlds.

You basically just admitted in 10 words or less that you have absolutely no desire to do any thinking for yourself, the quintessential modern normie who just turns on the tube at night for his daily dose of indoctrination. You are pathetic. What a disgrace you are to the humans who came before you.

If the next Newton came along fuckers like you would shit on him for not being accepted by the current priestly class of Jewish physicsts, and would ignore him because he didn't pass the bullshit peer review process that basically is the process ejecting any science that goes against the standard model. God I fucking hate people like you.

>>140153979
>n fact the technological "progress" you point to as testament to the value of science is just a parasitic egregore that has hijacked human evolution to further it's own development. It will suck humanity dry, and our dying act as a species just before we slip into extinction will be to launch it into space, ostensibly so that humanity apocalypse can "survive" by launching gene samples into space, but in actuality just so it's robotic spores can s
fuck, this is tad pessimistic dont you think m8

>>140136204
>China literally just managed to teleport a photo from the Gobi Desert into space,

No they didn't, they simply demonstrated "spooky action at a distance" (as has been done many times before) and the pop-sci press spun it as "teleportation" for more clicks and to spread pro-China propaganda.

>In this case, teleportation means to make a one photon take on all of the information of it’s linked twin. The receiving photon, in effect, becomes the same object as the first, just somewhere else.
http://www.inquisitr.com/4359751/china-has-now-successfully-demonstrated-teleportation-to-space-for-the-first-time/

>>140127935
Wait, you can read?

Let's get some /sci/ boiz in this shizzle

Reality is all about relativism. If science is a red pill, the effect would be to act without inhibition.

Nothing you do matters relative to the universe, so why not go on a mass murdering rampage? Because the world outside your own is not relevant and you enjoy boy pussie too much to end your life.