HOLY FUCK IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING

China knows better.

They'd get Saddam'ed if they actually followed through

china is going to give us gold for oil? nice

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>>140114465
>not fake news
theres been a steady march the last few years
china and russia are almost free of all western banking systems

>>140114792
bullshit, we cant do fuck all about it

>>140114864
>us, like the USA
fat chance, more like iran

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Here we go

Yeah, this would start WW3.

smells like Libya

>>140115143
>>140114792
Wrong

We are over a trillion dollars in debt to China. Wouldn't sinking the US dollar have a huge impact on their economy?

>>140114465
whats the source OP?
big if true.
We all know what happens when a rogue nation tries to break out of the petrodollar system...

>>140114465
Thanks, Boomers. All you had to do was keep building shit in America. But no, you had to enrich a dirtpoor communist nation by moving all your factories to Chinkland to save a few dollars in cost to increase profits while drastically increasing dependence on oil to ship this shit all over the world, leading us to have to militarily intervene in the worst hell holes on earth to keep paying for your economic freedom.
And now all your dumb factories are going to get nationalized by China when war with North Korea starts.
Hopefully you'll learn your lesson when you lose everything and wreck America's economy AGAIN, but no, you self-entitled boomers will keep chasing your profits all over the world until you're all dead and buried.

yasss chink slay (the Fed)

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>>140115622
This.
They also flooded the out country with cheap labor because they were too lazy to mow their own lawns. Literally the worst generation of Americans to ever exist.

>>140114792
>whites actually think they still run shit

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>>140114465
oh shit, ww3 when? NK will be used to SINK THE CHINKS

>>140115434
It would be small price to pay to become the pre-eminent world superpower.

>>140115066
Worked great for the Euro

>>140115622
Boomers will take the whole nation down into the abyss with them so they can preserve their old age entitlements. I hope if we collapse it is like Russia and the old have to eat cat food from cans to survive.

>>140114792
China is far bigger then Iraq has been since the Persian Empire. We are all fucked.

>>140116086
America will never pay that money back anyway

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This + https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/904377075049656322

= happenings

>>140115434

No, they'll just call in our debts to be paid with gold and leases.

The moment China self sustains is the moment they dump us and call in their shit. We fail to do so and we end up in the toilet.

The chinese already own our ports, and massive tracks of farming land. The 2030s are going to be bad times in America.

>>140115240
smells like youre in the wrong kitchen, the col. didnt have nukes and, quite by accident, showed the best koreans that they NEED nukes now more than ever

>9/11
>Libya give up weapons programs and opens up to inspections
>shits cool for a minute
>gaddafi "hey, my african brothers... wanna use gold as money?"
>USA says 'oh hell no'
>hildog lets the french off the chain to show the world they still have toys
>the good col. get buttfucked with a knife
>for reals
>the supreme nork leaders upmost desire is not butt rape with sharp objects

>>140116295
were just gonna give them a shitload of more devalued dollars, if we do

>>140116782
>the col. didnt have nukes
Excuse me bud, but where the fuck did I say they did?

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>>140114792
Holy fuck you can actually hear the crack in this Shart's voice

>>140116664
>wrecking the world's greatest economy and consumer base

yeah, they're definitely going to crash their economy and their labor force just to 1 up us.

>>140114465
Trump is about to Debt reset the world. Just watch.

>>140114465
He's going to take down the Rothschilds.

>Gringoyim

>>140114792
The great jew tries to flex its corroded muscles.

Kill yourselves you jewish pets. You and every other nation in their grasp.

>>140116664
>No, they'll just call in our debts to be paid with gold and leases.

Not how it works. It is US debt, payable back in US dollars. Payable in the future with cheaper dollars if the US currency crashes.

>>140114792
America is fucked either way. End of days approaches burger.

>>140114792
they have nukes, the kikes can't do a thing
Xi would nuke Israel in an instant

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>>140117058

>>140115622

Found the butt blasted millenial. Even the entrepreneurs of your generation are having shit built in China. You don't see millenials opening up factories in America, or even cottage industries. You see them using china to build their kickstarter crap. Which always lead to production problems because chinks don't care about quality.

Throw your blame at Nixon for opening up China, the factory heads, and CEO's for raiding American industry for their own personal profit, and Gen x and yourself for being to goddamn stupid to take the initiative learn some useful skills, and make something.

>>140116926
you fucking leafs and your reading comprehension
its a historical reference and fact. the Libyan's gave up trying to get nuclear weapons and look at where they are now

the russians and chinese have nukes pointed at us and we just deal with it

>>140115434
The US can just say they owe us at least that much in stolen IP, and we won't pay shit.

Based chinks bringing back actual capitalism instead of this debt based fiat currency bullshit.

>>140117401
And think about it

Once China actually starts building wealth, we won't be able to make things in China for cheap, therefore all those manufacturing jobs will come back to the US and we will be a dominant power again.

Either way, China fucks themselves in this ordeal.

>>140114465
Looks like China is overdue for a regime change.

>>140117521
>they were just pretending to be communist this entire time to deceive the jews
fucken based

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>>140114792

The thing is that Bush knew Saddam didn't have nukes.

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>>140114465
soon

>>140114465
This will start a world war.

>>140114465
Where do Jews fit into all this? what's their plan or are they shitting themselves right now?

>>140114792
USA is weak as fuck lmao you're gonna get steamrolled

>>140117515
This has nothing to do with nuclear weapons so I really don't know why you're bringing it up. The United States is more worried about keeping their stranglehold on being THE world's reserve currency. You could actually give a fuck if any fuck off country gets nuclear weapons or even attempts to, but any word on potential possibility of being downgraded as a world currency and all bets are off.

>>140114792
Can't saddam the madman.

>>140117401
Found the degenerate boomer

>>140115560
http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-Readies-Yuan-Priced-Crude-Oil-Benchmark-Backed-By-Gold.html

>>140116664
We will just go full Ron Paul and say fuck off and default on it all

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>>140114792

The day of the grill approaches, fellow burger.

>>140114465

Golly gee willickers, surely this will just happen and no major catastrophe and sudden removal of heads will befall those responsi-- oh North Korea blew up you say?

>>140115883
>America
>white

What's with you chink betas projecting race into everything? Worst than blacks and whites about it.

>>140114792

Infantry
Navy
Airforce
AAA/SAM

The US has not defeated a country that had all of the above since WW2.

>>140117890
The jews has allways been chinease puppets.

>>140115066
Let's get rid of jews.

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>MFW BURGERS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>140114792
Can't bow the Mao

Now would be a good time to stock up on yuan and get rid of your dollars. Make some money from this

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>>140116086
A super power of soulless manlets that torture animals and hates dogs.

>>140114465
>tsvetana paraskova

>>140114792
looks like China didn't learn from their first taste of the Rods of God, shall we drop a few more?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpb7dZG2Xmo

i welcome our new chinese overlords!

>>140119002
hmm?

>>140118959

uma delicia

Thread theme: https://youtu.be/x530q4hlv9c

>>140115066
where are tulips on this graph?

>>140117401
Can confirm. Old Millennial here. Econ degree worthless. Personality type clash with boomers at every corporate job I did. Made startup making shit in China. Best cooperation. Have to know how to work with them. First times rough, get it right and the money just flows.
Didn't vote for trump because I'm an internationalist.
Din't vote for HRC because she's a goblin who worked to price fix HIV drugs in the US to $2500 a month (limited access increases the rate it spreads), while letting HIV drugs be purchased through her NP for $50/mo for 'muh africans'.
Been planning US production switchover since Nov. 9th.
So much money saved, in cash, gold and BTC i could give two shits if we stop production with china.
>"Muh us import economy will crash"
>https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/no-records-set-august-number-employed-americans-drops-participation-rate
Americans are permanently out of work. Barring imports will be a boom in jobs, no matter what the Kensyians tells you.

>>140114792
I really hope you're baiting

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>>140114465
Uh oh

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>>140117521
>chinks bringing back actual capitalism
with out their state gov in it? not likely

>>140117597
>manufacturing jobs will come back to the US
you meant to say robots

>>140117937
>says the rape victim

>>140117968
alright retard, how the fuck do you even remember how to breathe? you gotta be more dense than Os for fucks sake. i know im wasting my time pointing out how stupid you are but i do it for all the other anons who can read english.

you're retarded for thinking the dollar is still the king
youre retarded for thinking "we", the USA, will libya CHYNA. because the rest of the world knows canada aint shit and cant do anything about it
you're retared for not knowing the USA gov was already downgraded the year before
youre retarded for not knowing about the AIIB

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>>140119251

>>140119251
That lasted for 6 months. Wouldn't even be a pixel wide.

LOOKS LIKE CHINESE IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

>>140116664
The dollar used to be backed with gold. Now it's backed with aircraft carriers.

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>>140114465
>China willingly surrendering control of the Yuan to foreign markets, removing their ability to manipulate it's value artificially
>any year

Never happen. The instant they trade other easily valued commodities for the Yuan on the global market is the instant rampant inflation begins burning their entire economy to the damn ground. They'd never be stupid enough to willingly enter a self inflicted death spiral with no forseeable beneficial effects.

>>140118150
Just gave me a 404 style page.

>>140117067
Implying they need you as a consumer. Chinks can just go back to communism in inner economy policy and do nothing, while you will enjoy full-scale trade embargo.

You need them more than they need you.

>>140116664
Just give them everyone else's gold from Fort Knox. Ow shit you already did...

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>>140119632
https://archive.fo/fXn5c

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>>140114792

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>>140119324
Fuck dude, you're just full of wrong presuppositions.

You're retarded for thinking the US dollar isn't currently currency king. This is indisputable.
You're retarded for thinking I'm thinking the US will Libya China.
You're retarded for again, presupposing my position is the US government is "downgraded" because I'm not talking about the government being downgraded.
You're retarded for again, presupposing I don't know what the AIIB is.

A whole lot of "YOU'RE RETARDED LEAF CHYNA GAY FAG!" without any real substance. You're extremely confused.

it not gonna happen today, tomorrow or never...china just turn oil into gold, and is using NK to threaten the US into suck their tiny dicks.
US is powerless to do anything

>>140117401
>the boomer recoils as he strikes you

>>140114465
looks like China will be going the way of Saddam. people are failing to realize that it's certain (((people))) who controls the banking system and they don't like it when people fuck with (((their))) money.

>>140120134
This is why US and Russia united would've been good
Working together, two of the top 3 versus 1, would've absolutely fucked China
Instead it's all "COMMUNISTS RUSSIA ENEMIES PUTIN TRUMP GAY HURR DURR WE CANT UNITE WITH ANOTHER SUPER POWER"
Now we are fucked

>>140114465
So many Marts were sharted ITT

>>140119973
>You're retarded for thinking I'm thinking the US will Libya China.

>>140115240
>smells like Libya

game.set.match
now get the fuck out

>>140114465
H-HUH!!??? OIL SOLD IN GOLD BACKED YUANS?!

>>140120513
H-HUH? DICK BEING SUCKED BY (((your))) MOUTH???

>>140120499
Because something smells fishy does that mean there's fish?

>game.set.match
That's pretty gay dude.

>>140120499
Checked

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>>140114465
Hello you naughty bois, lets fool the world again

Post as many tweets and tumblr posts under fake accounts with this picture and #sexistcyrus with it, lets beat those big bois up in their mansions they'll never expect us

Shadilay comrades! May Kek bring us great forotune

>>140115066

>1921
>Dollar dominance in commerce

More like 1951.

>>140114465
Can someone explain why this is of any significance?

>>140117401
>Found the butt blasted millenial. Even the entrepreneurs of your generation are having shit built in China. You don't see millenials opening up factories in America, or even cottage industries. You see them using china to build their kickstarter crap.

>startup capital appears out of thin air!

>>140114792
That's one country you can't Saddam.

>>140119620
>bother yourself with (((global market))) shit while your country is the biggest factory on the planet.

This is not how monopoly works, you dumb burger.

>>140120761
imagine being this guy
just fucking imagine
i'd rather be put down like a dog than ever be like this guy

Good for China
Won't affect USA at all

>>140119251
well they're Dutch so the tulips are probably wrapped around a refugees cock

Has China actually stockpiled anywhere near enough Gold to pull this off yet

>>140114465
Sadly the average burger will have no idea of the significance of this shit until it's too late.

>>140116664
>No, they'll just call in our debts to be paid with gold and leases.

You can't call in a bond, you literal nigger.

>>140119102
>Are we dangerous here?
>Yeah we're dangerous
gets me everytime

>>140121256
You could do this with any amount of gold. All that matters is what you price it at.

China do have quite a lot of gold at this point though.

>>140120667
just quit saying stupid shit if youre butthurt about being called on it. you should really be more concerned about your own currency thats flopping like a dead fish

>>140121279
you are correct pasta slinger

>>140115560

>We all know what happens when a rogue nation tries to break out of the petrodollar system

It's China though. Not an adversary to be taken lightly.

>>140121279
Sadly? No. They are just proving the American Education meme right here.

>>140120953
Oof my feelings

>>140119273
do you sell via amazon or ebay?

>>140121256
>What is king leaf selling all CA reserves of gold?

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>>140114465
Time to destroy my KUNG POO folder.

>>140121381
Why don't you try saying things that make sense and not rely on ad hominems?

>>140121489
Neither. Distribution Chains and direct to retailers.

I knew this was going to happen when China saw the relative ease with which the US blocked Iran from international trade. Dumb move desu.

>>140120960
Uh....? Any advantages gained by china is a netloss for america

>>140120933
cia trained uyghur islamists dropping a dirty bombs in several chinese cities is a possibility. uranium will be linked to pakistan.

(((they))) are capable of that level of fuckery

>>140115066
BITCOIN WHEN?

>>140114792
>Implying fatties that couldn't even defeat bunch of goat-herders living in medieval times can do anything to china.
kek, those levels of delusion are actually sad.

>>140121419
we really have more in common than you think, like the heroin epidemic. our AIDS problem isnt as bad, yet

>>140121549
because you already got buttfucked with facts

>>140121729
>i wish a nigga would

>>140121729
>implying the chinese government will give a shit.

The thing with manufacturing going to developing world isn't just dirt cheap costs in there but also dirt cheap costs of shipping too. But shipping uses extremely dirty fuel and is hilariously noisy which damages sea life. If we managed to enforce heightened standards for international shipping alone it would melt the profitability of 3rd world manufacturing as everything is shipped across the world over the production chain many times.

>>140121935
I was slightly grazed by ad hominem attacks with absolutely zero substance.

last (You), dumbo

>>140120596
Clever you low IQ knuckle dragger. Libya tried this and now they are a failed state.

>>140118959
Are good food, dogs and cats tastes good

>>140119284
usa and china will go to war, its only a question of when. the sooner the better chance of a us victory

>>140121966
That also damages exports genius. And flat out reduces the standards of living 1st worlders have due to less access to cheap goods.

Everyone is worse off here.

>>140114465
If this is true, then I've never been convinced by WW3 until now.

All the bullshit about WW3 before, this is what would really start it.

Can't we just default on everything we owe and take all the china wealth in america. We can put the slants in concentration camps or just deport them.

>>140114465
Is this a good reason to go full green energy?

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And who is going to buy into a manipulated currency?
Follow the money.

>>140117067

The current level of American consumption isnt sustainable. If the devoloping countries all elevated to our level the world would run out of resources within 30 years. Therefor something has to change. That change is that Americans have to drop down a few levels. They arent going to give up 'much conveinence products' voluntarily, ultimately it will require a war with a big player such as China.

China really doesn't 'need' the US trading partnership, it has its finger in every pie in the world on top of a an already massive domestic consumer base. China like the power they have in the current arrangment but make no mistake, they'll change their tune a the drop of a hat if America decides it doesnt want to play nice anymore.

>>140120881
china numbah yuan

>>140117104
>>140117122

Keeping dreaming fellas. Trump is in bed with the Juden elites.

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>>140114465
is this why we went to war with china in call of duty black ops 2?

>>140119583
Aircraft carriers are shit and obsolete, like the battleship before them
Countries only build them to dickwave. One of the most important rules of war is you dont build something you can't afford to lose.
The loss of a single aircraft carrier would be a multi billion dollar disaster and cost thousands of lives, and all it would take is one lucky shot from a cheap, expendable Chinese/Russian missile boat, which is why both countries put so much effort into building ever more advanced and hard to shoot down hypersonic water skimming missiles.

>>140115767
seems a little unfair to blame the last generation before decline set in. or became noticeable, anyway. these things move in cycles. it's somebody else's turn now.

>>140119583
this, the US has two major assets, one is the US-petrodollar, the other one is the US military, they use both of these assets to project their power on foreign nations

>>140120945
Can you elaborate a bit? Wouldn't a "big factory" that can't sell their products to the global market be in trouble? Not sure China alone can consume what they're able to produce

>>140122498
Almost all Chinese wealth is real estate, which technically the US only owns. They are just speculative tools the chinese are using. Once we start that, Chinese investors will pull out (Toronto) and the RE market would crash.

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>>140114465

Cool, my cyberpunk intention manifestation is happening.

>>140115434
Yes it would

>>140116664
USA debt to China is USD denominated debt

>>140114465
>>140122571
This fucking over the petrodollar is china's way of fucking over the north korean superdollar.

>>140123146
Yeah, the Russian is wrong, he thinks that having Soviet Factories to turn out an endless supply of tanks to mothball is a healthy economy. China has a growing middle class, they still don't buy consumer goods, most are buying homes. Think of the way the Greatest Gen spent their money. Not much in the way of consumer goods, mostly real estate.

>>140114465

The world is preparing for the fall of the USA.

>>140120953

He's just doing a job.

>>140120415

>american rooting for jewish bankers

Ihope they annihilate you so the rest of the planet can go back to normalcy.

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>>140114465
Were going back to a real war boys!

GET YOUR GAME FACES ON!

>>140114465
How does this effect the north korea situation?

>>140122444
wasted trips

step back from the tree to see the forest
>most gold is priced in fiat dollar/currencies
>metal prices have been suppressed by the western banks for a while
>china and russia have been buying gold at a discount
>china sets up own gold exchange
>now china can buy oil from countries blacklisted from using dollars

china is going to force a more honest price for gold making their holdings worth even more and then use that to acquire what it needs on the world market

>>140115005
clued in anon speaks truth, trust steve

>>140123429
It harms the superdollar made there.

>>140121256

Yes. Keep track of all the western politicians who had been selling their nation's gold reserves in recent years. These are the ones that will be executed on live tv

>>140123425
real war is obsolete. all the relevant countries have the nuclear triad. and all the irrelevant ones are in pursuit of it.

Does anyone have the post screenshot of an anon who gives an interesting perspective on how the US and China might fight a sort od Quasi-war that would allow them to destroy the Rothschild fiat currency?

>>140119324

>manufacturing jobs will come back to the US
>you meant to say robots

This retarded meme needs to die. This is what (((they))) want you to believe.

Fact is doing production at a factory job sucks. No one wants to stand in one spot all day doing some repetive task thousands of times. They would rather have robots do that shit. The truth is though bringing the factories back to the US will create a plethora of supporting jobs. Warehousing, inventory management, clerical/office, transport, maintenace, etc. Not to mention the local economy boost from having the factory built (ie consturction/trades people)

>>140121899
Never. If you have bitcoin, sell them and buy gold.

>>140115434
Maybe at first. They've been propping us up for their exports, but other countries will fill the void left by the US.

>>140122921
If aircraft carriers are obsolete why is China building them?

>>140115434
No. China have planned perfectly for this.

If the dollar crashes their gold reserves will soar in value. They'll end up no worse off.

>>140124535

Anon cannot into force projection.

>>140114465
you took my thread away, but ill bump you anyway

>>140124114
you post a lot of truth
im just of the opinion that not enough physical laborers will be needed on the production floor. american workers are some of the most productive in the world, thats why i think there will be less employed

>>140116664
>Call In
Full retard confirmed

Why cant people understand the chinese dont own loan shark debt on us that they can "call in" at anytime. They own long-term government bonds and deposits, they cant force us to pay any faster than the bonds mature, which isnt that fast and it sure as hell ain't on demand

>>140123168

You haven't been paying attention.

They have land, water, and mineral rights all over the world.

>>140124647
Kek bless

>>140119273
The is the dumbest RP I've ever read. Honestly, just try if you're gonna lie through your fucking teeth.

>>140123354
>>140123146
Yeah they are quite dependant on hipsters here buying iPhones, there is no way they could sell enough of that kind of thing internally to keep their economy running at the rate it is

This thread is full of smart people and the absolute biggest retards who are complete economic brainlets

>>140119632
>https://asia.nikkei.com/Markets/Commodities/China-sees-new-world-order-with-oil-benchmark-backed-by-gold

>>140120415

China's banks are all government owned and afaik not run by jews. Can anyone confirm or deny?

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/11/chinese-banking-system.asp

>>140117597
>implying anyone will want to work in the factories we make besides maybe 10-15 percent of the population

also how are you going to force blacks and trailer trash, into factories they have 10 kids to raise on welfare draining us more. Along with millennials who are rioting about transgender rights an sheitttt we are a fucked nation and theres nothign we can do about it. I hope israel gets fucked by china and japan rises to the plate bombing fucking china.

>>140124535
They're not building the fucking massive billion dollar ones that the US does.

>>140124629
Good for projecting against shitty desert nations with no navy or air force or long range missiles. Absolutely fucking worthless against any actual foe like China or Russia, who could cause a bigger disaster than Pearl Harbour with a single lucky missile boat.

>>140124817
If they try to collapse the US those "rights" that are in the US are useless and they are pretty much dependant on Iran and Africa at that point.

None of this matters because they simply do not have a consumption market that would sustain their growth without the USA, even if they had infinite oil rights

And none of this is discussing what happens if this escalates into a war? Look what just happened with India, China is a paper dragon, even the poo in loos don't fear their saber-rattling ffs

welp, looks like it's time to nuke china

>>140125240
You are correct that the government owns almost all if not all banks in China

>people are actually scared of chinas paper tiger economy

>>140125635
$3T in foreign exchange reserves

>>140125493
I mean, they'd still eminently necessary for an invasion, you dolt. If you invade somewhere you have to have Air Support and where the fuck you think it comes from?

>>140125703
fuck off if you dont know what it means retard

>>140123766
>Keep track of all the western politicians who had been selling their nation's gold reserves in recent years.
They unfortunately will all be dead resting their corpses in ornamented graves and coffins to suffer the consequences of their acts. Only gathering up their descendants with their inheritance before they escape our countries.

>>140117597
china is is made up of two casts, the dirt poor slaves who work in the factory's and the rich.
the rich will only get richer because of this while the poor ones will still work for the same paycheck they have right now.

>>140125793
Elaborate

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>>140114465

And this is why the norks are nothing but a distraction that China has allowed to fester.

It's also why cutting trade with China is now on the table. If the petrodollar recycling system is going to face this big of a threat the USA has no choice but to rebuild its infrastructure and become truly self sufficient rather than using an oil backed standard for it's currency.

Get ready for the third world war boys.

>>140115066
Bitcoin coming up next

>>140121931
top kek. So true anon.

>>140125635
>1.3 billion people country with super high employment participation and high education standards is paper tiger, not the 0.3 billion people country thats only 56% white and has historically low labor force participation

>>140117937
Actual autism

>>140118431
The USA hasn't won any major war against an equal or greater opponent in all of it's history. Look at how poorly the USA did against Japan during island hoping. It took nukes to avoid a humiliation of ground invasion on their homeland

>>140125516
>do not have a consumption market that would sustain their growth

How can china be harmed? They have large population, much access to resources, abilities of production.

'consumption market that would sustain their growth', what is this fear, that if america all the sudden stops buying 99 cent plastic toys a few million Chinese will be out of work and they wont be able to come up with any new job for these people?

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>>140115252
Really?
Explain how it is wrong.

>>140125767
OK let me revise my original point
Aircraft carriers as a whole are not obsolete
Fucking massive billion dollar floating air strips which you absolutely cannot afford to lose are obsolete (in fact they were never even a good idea to start with)

They are fantastic against nations with zero defense against them which is why the US was so gung ho about building so many when they were just napalming gooks or glassing deserts but even top generals now have a huge headache when making contingency plans for wars with China or Russia because they have these massive assets which break the golden rule of war - don't make anything that you cannot quickly replace and cannot afford to lose.

>>140121931
>>140126036
To be fair though our Desert Wars have been Vietnam-style jokes with too-strict ROE. Reminder that once upon a time we fucking nuked Japan, twice. If THAT America comes back, people would shit their pants. No guarantee it would though.

>>140126212
Because the USA won't do anything to China

Reminder that the US economy and the strength of the US dollar relies on the petrodollar system creating artificial demand for US currency. Creating an alternative system where oil can be sold on different currencies and backed with gold threatens the fundamentals of the US economy.

>>140126159
Yes, nobody else in the world buy enough stupid shit in an impulsive way which is necessary to sustain that except Americans. Our endless need for junk fuels their entire economy, as others have said, the chinese themselves spend like the Silent Generation

America has some of the largest gold reserves in the world. If push comes to shove we can create a gold backed currency exchange unit used just for the sale and exchange of petroleum.

Also, no one in this thread seems to know how the petro dollar works. Countries merely exchange their money for for equal amounts of American currency. There is no profit involved. America is not making money on this deal. The money simply passes through our banks. Russia and China just want to keep your money in their banks. And who could be more "trustworthy" than... LOL... Russian and China. Surely I'd want them to .... *snicker*... hold my money bwahahahahaha!!!

Sorry, I couldn't make it all the way to the end without laughing.

Cause you know Russia and China are both such stable countries with such... "bright futures."

>>140125966
Yeah I'm not dying for the Rothschilds. No thanks. But a return to ethnonationalist isolationism sounds nice.

Who's fighting alongside me at the battle of Anchorage?

>>140125333
>besides maybe 10-15 percent of the population
For some reason, one in eight isn't significant to you

>>140126417
This is a straight up myth

>>140126417

>Creating an alternative system where oil can be sold on different currencies and backed with gold threatens the fundamentals of the US economy.

Not quite. It threatens the fundamentals of the elites getting to put their money anywhere on the planet in the pursuit of higher returns. The end of the petrodollar (or reserve currency status, in more polite terms) would be really good for the domestic US market.

>>140126283
I mean, it really doesnt matter because if a war went that hot, it'd just go nuclear and they'd all be fucked and us with them t b h

That said, we wouldnt be rushing in with our aircraft carriers, we'd probably do non-stop heavy bombing raids from nearby airfields and then use the carriers to keep certain waterways policed, mostly in the Gulf, too far from Chinese and Russia force projection to be in serious danger

>>140126364
The USA is a Empire based on warfare.
Why is China exempt from tradition?

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>>140121256
yes, China has been mining the earth for gold and all kinds of other shit at a fever pace non-stop for decades, unlike the do-nothing fat fucks in goymerica

>>140126750
Jamal, Tyreese, Jethro and Estevez

>>140126610
>Countries merely exchange their money for for equal amounts of American currency. There is no profit involved.

>equal amounts of American currency

Which on both sides, fluctuates, so there is room to make profit there. And other countries requiring american dollars increases the demand of american dollars, therefore their value? Their circulation?

>>140126324
This is correct. Cameras should not be on the battlefield if you want to win. We feared the press more than the enemy when i was deployed.

>>140126875
This is because the entire Chinese civilization is always one minute away from total collapse and chaos.

Their nation and their economy is unsustainable. Their lands are over farmed and very soon they won't even be able to feed their own people. Their natural resources are dimkinished. Their entire economy is dependent upon the west.

>>140115434
>owe over a trillion dollars

Pretty sure it's more than 15 trillion now actually

>>140126610
This too, for the US to lose its status as reserve it would take more than China using the Yuan, it would take every country in the world decided that economically, China and Russia would be more trustworthy and stable than the US.

Just typing that made laff, the idea is just absurd, nobody trusts Chinese or Russians

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inb4 gaddafi'd

>>140115005
>theres been a steady march the last few years
>china and russia are almost free of all western banking systems

did you ever wonder why the (((bankers))) didn't crash the economy right after Trump took office?

I pray that the collapse happens because I believe Trump will end the FED and return the U.S.A. to the constitutional method of using the U.S. treasury as the source of our money

>>140123168

The Chinese own huge swaths of land all over South East Asia, Australia/NZ, and Africa as well the US/Canada. They also own/control much of the resources (rubber tree plantations in SEA, precious metal mines in Africa etc). Meanwhile the US owns little, is full of white collar middlemen, and keeps its control and power through military posturing alone.

If we get on the wrong side of China we are fucked. The west is fucked.

>replacing our organ harvesting crazy pedophile overlords with yellow organ harvesting crazy pedophile overlords

At least the jews spoke the language

>>140126924
Wrong. It's always an even exchange even with the fluctuation in currency value. Oil prices also fluctuate which gives purchasers a chance to get a better deal for their money.

>>140127160
Not if they gain new trade partners

>>140127065
Yup, a "mishap" is probably easily forgiven by commanders...unless a reporter was there to document it.

>>140126283
>massive assets which break the golden rule of war - don't make anything that you cannot quickly replace and cannot afford to lose.
Why build big ships then when a bunch of sloops can do fine?
Why build battleships then when a bunch of corvettes can do fine?

>>140122921
It's just a turn of phrase, obviously I mean backed by overwhelming military force, of which carriers are the symbol. The autism on this board.

>>140127291
Show me a trade partner(s) in the world who buys as much and buys as impulsively as Americans. Oh and they have to buy in the size and volume of America.

I'll wait

>>140114465
>hey I heard they have WMDs fellow goy-

>>140127291
Not to mention they already trade with everyone likely, theres no magic trade partners with American purchasing levels just hiding out there in the world and China doesnt know about them lol

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>>140127190
>The west is fucked.
Oh god please let it be true
I cant bear this decline anymore

Well, I for one dont mind buying my shit for peanuts on US amazon/ebay, too bad eur goes hand in hand with the dollar, oh well back to our currencies and fuck your deutschmark and immigrants

>>140114465
>HOLY FUCK IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING
Indeed this is quite serious. The Petro dollar is something the kikes will definitely push us into war to maintain.

>>140127489
>>140127603
if you had gold to the equation then the trade partner becomes selective.
All you have to do is contact the countries who don't like the U.S. and make them make a decision to have U.S. as their trade overlord or China.

>>140127386
>Why build big ships then when a bunch of sloops can do fine?
Ships of the Line offered a good trade off in terms of power and affordability so they were not a waste. But even they had an upper limit, and even Britain and Spain relied on sloops and 3rd and 4th Rates a lot, they weren't shitting out First Rates, which were normally reserved for an Admiral's flagship.
And they didn't build them too large. Only one massive 4 deck was built by Spain, the Santisima Trinidad and after they lost it at Trafalgar they and everyone else realised how shitty an idea it had been.

>Why build battleships then when a bunch of corvettes can do fine?
Battleships became obsolete exactly because smaller, faster, cheaper ships were a much better option.

>>140126364
>the USA won't do anything to China
You're a fool if you think that. They are dependent on us, not vice-versa. We are the consumer. They need us. Conquering them would pay off our debt to them. They have a larger air force, but their planes are shit compared to ours. And they sure as fuck wouldn't risk nuking us.

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>>140117344
1. You can't nuke Israel
2. Each of our nukes hitting China will kill 10 million EASY. Probably way more.

>>140117273
>what is inflation

There would be no need for ground invasion of China. Naval embargo and China collapses in months. They know this, which is why they try that silk road revival.

>>140128463
>And they sure as fuck wouldn't risk nuking us.
You don't understand Fu Manchu...

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>>140115622

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>>140114465
Meh, murica is gonna pussy out and let this slide. Theres no way they can justify doing something about this. After a couple of years of this, the US of A will go bankrupt and lose superpower status and gain third world status like they should have

>>140126610
>Countries merely exchange their money for for equal amounts of American currency. There is no profit involved.

Lol, not true at all. Banks typically charge a 'hidden' fee of 2.5 to 3% in the exchange rate. They are litterally making billions of dollars a year from the petrodollar.

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>>140118431
>USA
>actually did anything in WW2

>>140129120
What did Denmark do?

>>140119251
Netherlands

>>140127160
>it would take more than China using the Yuan
Thats the point retard. This is exactly whats happening.

>the idea is just absurd, nobody trusts Chinese or Russians
Are you some kind of delusional Poo in the Loo or butthurt gook?

The market share of currencies is reported constantly by the settlement insititutes and banks and the gains and rising popularity of the Yuan an undisputed fact. There are literally only the currenies of the seven top notch 1st world countries left in its way.

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>>140129120

>>140120442
We're not united because the USA is a threat to global stability and has been for quite some time. Russia will not ally with us because it's not in their interest to do so. There is a reason areas of the world know us as "The great Satan"

>>140114465
How do I make money off of this and avoid the collapse of my country?

>>140124049
Bump for this

>>140114465
BRICS BRICSing.

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GOOD LUCK CHINA

It's about time for the petrodollar to fuck off

>>140114465
This is literally the biggest happening since WW2. This is bigger than the collapse of the Soviets. This is economic war.

>>140115767
Wow wtf is with that video? What did she catch?

>>140127120
>Their nation and their economy is unsustainable.
> Their entire economy is dependent upon the west.

China. Established in 1700BC litterally the oldest civilization still existing to this day on the planet. But yeah, totally reliant on the west adn on the brink of collapse.

>hurr durr what burgers actually believe

>>140116664
>call in their debts
in which we don't pay
dumb fuck, China needs us far more than we need them

>>140119679
>go back to Mao communism
>million starve again
>y-you need them
laughing at you heartily Ivan

>>140128825
Actually, everywhere that isn't China will become more of a shithole. Since China is already 90% shithole, they won't notice any difference.

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>>140129697
A baseball.

>>140129705
current economy U.S. is needed more

>>140114792
how is the average yank this deluded? You'd be vaporised within minutes you dumb, mixed race retard.

>>140129745
This. We're just not going to pay them back. But I also think China is on to the fact that we've been duping them out of their raw materials for decades now which is why they're taking measures like in OP's post (if true).

>>140129472
China hasn't won a war in 400 years. Tell Russia stop Ukraine in return for China land, but they need to help us a bit. Nuke china and invade, ignoring international community. Then we have global peace with our old Ally.

>>140121524
They sold it to us numbnuts

>>140127183
>did you ever wonder why the (((bankers))) didn't crash the economy right after Trump took office?

I was wondering this. I figured they were just waiting for the right moment like when Trump announced something big. The threat of foreign banks swooping in to take command when we crash makes sense.

>>140130044
And the US has never won a war in it's history without outside help, what makes you think the US could conquer China so easily?

with all the cryptos running around
pol thinks the petrodollar is sustainable
>literally normie

>>140130193
We have our meat shield Russians like in WW2.

>>140130044
I don't mean war. I just want to make money off the financial chaos that Yuan/Gold-backed oil would cause.

>>140130021
China can't even produce enough food to feed their own people, only the US, Vietnam, Netherlands and like half a dozen other countries in the WORLD are self sufficient when it comes to food
food > money
you can't eat gold or paper money and live.

>>140114465
>by Tsvetana Paraskova
Literally fake news.

>>140129395
i dont speak baguette

>>140130306
Aren't Russia and China much closer than they are to the US

>>140115767
Boomers are literal shit

>>140114465
i'm digging a bunker.

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>>140129705
>he thinks china has had a continuous government or civilization from 1700BC
literally kys

>>140128473
This
Nuking Israel will literally spell the end for the PLANET
Why did we let these heebs go through with their Sampson Option?

>>140127120
>Their entire economy is dependent upon the west.
For what?

>>140114792

>thinking the USA would actually go to war against a nation that can fight back

>>140115066
>Gulden

This is why we need to have labor camps for the Dutch solely for creating RPGs.

The Dutch will institute a 1000 years Reich of PC gaming.

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>>140115066

>>140116086
>Namefag
Is fag

>>140129705
They lack food to such an extent they are accepting RICE IMPORTS form the USA
eat shit you fucking memeflag

>>140114792
You really think Trump would try to destroy China over this?

He's not a total shill you know. But it would fuck up the US economy big time if nothing is done. buy some bitcoin cause that will go way up from institutional investors and normal people both

>>140114465
does this mean it's a good time to invest in the yuan?

"Benchmark Backed By Gold"
The Yuan isn't pegged to anything other than the commy parties word. It is artificially inflated in value so badly that no one is allowed to trade it outside of China. Trump wants to call them currency manipulators because the Yuan would sky rocket in value if they were to trade it fairly. This would wreck their economy overnight and manufacturing would swing back to the west. Think of it like a see-saw, with it tipped up on the American side and down towards China. China artificially deflated the value of the Yuan means that labor is cheaper than it should be, thus driving down manufacturing costs and ensuring that manufacturing slides down the see-saw towards China and out of the US. US. dollars and wealth slide down the see-saw as well and accumulate in China. America gets poorer and loses jobs, while China gets richer and gains jobs. Forcing the Chinese to value the Yuan realistically and forcing them to trade the Yuan openly on currency exchanges would rape that country of its new found wealth overnight, swing the see-saw the other way and bring massive, massive amounts of manufacturing jobs back to the US. If the Chinese wish to trade oil for Yuan, then they MUST begin to trade the Yuan openly on currency exchanges. This will destroy the Chinese economy much faster than their hopes of replacing even part of the petro-dollar cycle. They know that the opening of the Yuan on the exchanges is coming, and that there is nothing that they can do about it. They are hoping that creating a petro-yuan will save them, but it won't. Their economy is going to implode as fast as a submarine hitting crush depth, because that is what it is. It will be swift and violent and there is going to be massive revolution in China.

>>140114792
Saddam didn't have a nuclear arsenal and a conventional army that could actually battle the US into attrition. Most American force-projection estimates are made by bullshit US military exercises like MC2002.

>>140130193
we have alien fucking technology and other super weapons thanks to the nazis, look up the tr-3b aurora project. They shoot lasers at rapid speeds it should be easy.

>>140127376
>>140127065
My mentors tell me with stars in their eyes of the things they uncovered. A lot of the time they weren't even personally invested but man.

Everyone loves a good moral outrage.

>>140130749
>It is artificially inflated in value so badly
***deflated

>>140130620
Why is that shocking? I'd be shocked if the didn't import *some* amount of rice. At the very least there'd be luxury brand foreign rice.

It may also be some kind of trade thing. Give yuan to american banks. Makes Chinese goods cheaper for burgers to buy.

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>>140130306
This would have worked, if Obama hadnt pissed off the Russians so much by meddling in their backyard.
Plus the sanctions he waved around only drove Russia and China closer together.

>>140114465

Not surprising. All it took was a country not allied to the US benchmarking it's own version of petrocurrency to begin the process of breaking the dominance of the dollar.

Economics is warfare by other means than the gun, and the Chinese are willing to play the long game.

Besides, it's pretty damn obvious that America's economy is hollowing out as the middle class withers and the process to make more middle-class families is burnt to the ground. An economic serfdom of service employees has weak buying power and the Chinese are quite happily developing Africa into a self-sustaining economic colony in it's place.

Long story short, we've depended on the world thinking us indispensable for so long that folks are developing alternatives and gradually cutting our debt-laden masses out of the circuit.

>>140128463
>We are the consumer. They need us.
think about your logic carefully.

>>140124180
>he doesn't remember cyprus

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>>140114465
lol I hope the dollar falls. Fuck you dumb lazy obese americans.

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>>140130681
Good we need economic pressure to get the civil war started.

>>140128262
>implying the countries that truly "don't like" america are buying that much
>implying that arent already buying from china
>implying this has any impact on them losing US purchases which would still be devastating to companies like Foxconn

>>140128463
If China or USA go down it will be a disaster for the entire world(both countries included)

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>>140131129
this

Thread theme:
https://youtu.be/t5q4cL9qZQI

>>140129348
So youre saying theyre above 2nd world currency now? Wow what an accomplishment, maybe in the next 20 years they'll figure out infrastructure. The dollar will not be dethroned because its reliable, its as simple as that. The US is far more stable, and no sane person would trust their life with a communist government, reformed or not. China has made alot of money off of slave labor tier jobs, produced some billionaires and has done well for itself, but if you think the politicians and capitalists of china are on the same page, you have no clue what youre talking about.

>>140130391
>>140129395
>In your opinion, which country contributed most to the defeat of the Axis in 1945?

>>140131048
>indispensable
We are, just maybe not economically.

>>140129262
Denmark paid transexuals for sex work, same as now.

>>140130391
It's a poll question that asks "Who contributed to defeating the Germans the most in 1945?"
Notice the dates of the polls and the answers.

>>140117597

Chinese-owned and operated African industry will end up taking up the slack, and unlike the USA, they will have no worries making the locals into subhuman work peons as "muh equality" is laughed at with the Chinese regarding anything black crawling out of the jungle. Not to mention the actual Chinese, of course.

Meanwhile, Americans will be busily shooting at yet another useless patch of ground instead of properly obliterating the native population and simply taking what they want, leaving it a burnt heap of ashes. It's almost as if we've mastered making war as costly and useless as possible for national purposes.

>>140114465
usa is finished.

>>140117890
Jews don't control China.

>>140131129
What the fuck. They don't even have gardens on meaningful sizes, let alone green areas and parks nearby. No wonder americans and their kids are fat disgusting fucks. Imagine trying to raise a kid there.

>Go play outside son
>On the road with all the traffic and shit?
>Lol, good point. Just keep playing video games for another 4 hours.

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>>140130749
Woah your id
>HmWEWF A M

>>140115622
Indeed. The boomers are problematic, comrade.

>>140131492
Israel can't be nuked.
what's so hard to understand about that simple fact?

>>140114465
>manipulates currency
>culture rife with corruption
>tries to establish petro-yuan
yeah I'm sure everyone's buying in on that

>>140114465

american golden age is going to be over.

no country in the world is afraid or cares american orders.

>>140128347
Are americans today the spanish armada that will get challenged by some force in the future like what happened with the spaniards?

>>140127120

LOL, no. Why do you think they've been so busy buying shit and getting their dick wet in Africa?

China wants a new Red Empire, one sustained by conquest (economic or otherwise) sending treasure back to the mother country and bringing them wealth.

>>140126118

Yeah, and back then they didint have trannies in the command structure or a billion angry lefties at home. Imagine the shitshow it would be today if america entered a proper war with someone who could fight back.

>>140130749
“When you talk about currency manipulation, when you talk about devaluations,” the Chinese “are world champions,” Mr. Trump told The Financial Times, ahead of the state visit of the Chinese leader, Xi Jinping, to the United States last week.

>>140114792
This statement is hilarious. Iraq, Libya, Iran, and Syria are all 3rd world countries with old military technology. China on the other hand is the 2nd largest economy, has the largest population, and has a lot of advanced tech (they stole from us and others).

So no, we aren't going to do shit against China, anymore than we did against the Soviets for 50 years. China will have won if they can pull this off and get other nations to buy into the Yuan. This is how they intent to crush the US economy, by circumventing the petrodollar. They having been winning the economic war for 30 years, this is the nuclear option to finish us off.

>>140130391

Which country, in your own opinion, contributed the most to Germany's defeat in 1945?

>>140132151
Germany.
Why did you idiots let Hitler make the military strategy?

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>>140117890

Hastily adjusting their positions to for maximum short term benefit with absolutely no thought given to the long game or bigger picture.

>>140127190
I was saying this in response to "wouldn't we just nationalize their holdings", which are mostly real estate, and the elastic/speculative values of it are mostly being propped up by Chinese outflows of money. So if we took the property (i'm saying the US owns anyways, since it's in our border, and we have a defacto monopoly on force in our border), the values will only fall, because the US to turn the RE into usable currency would have to sell them to a gold investor, or a different foreigner for their gold, to turn into bullets. Saying that we are entering a CHICOM/GOLD vs US/FIAT(forced to gold) war.

>>140132142
The idea the developed world and all the financial institutions of the west are gonna get bailed on for something backed by an undemocratic, communist regime is HILARIOUS

>>140126118
It wouldn't be humiliation, it is just the nature of war in general. We would have to kill millions of soldiers to overtake Japan and spend vast resources shipping people over the worlds largest ocean.

However it's common knowledge that Japan wanted to surrender before we nuked them. We just nuked them for shits and giggles.

Also we should have invaded Russia with nazi German forces after we took over Berlin. Probably would've changed what countries have nuclear weapons radically.

>>140129395
well if there ever was definite proof for the western propaganda against the russians there it is.

>>140131707
t. Schlomo

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>>140132054
Under rated post.