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Putin & Xi agree to ‘appropriately deal’ with N. Korea

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What did they mean by this?
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>>140094784
King Jon Oon and his top 5 generals are gonna wake up with an unfortunate case of 3 gunshots to the back of the head
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probably the opposite of what the us has done the last 100 years
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>>140094784
Help him make more nukes.
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It means they won't do anything. But by pretending that they will, it causes the rest of the world back off from North Korea until the Norks are a real threat to the West.
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>>140094784
Continue to let them develop nukes and then shield them from out "unfair" sanctions and pressure. Just put a military blockade on them and start this shit
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They will send a strongly worded letter.
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>>140094784
They'll set up a deal and give the norks 10 more H bombs.
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They cock blocked the US
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>>140094980
This. More stalling.
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help him out
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>>140094875
Something along these lines. You have to think China has people close to him just in case.
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>>140094784
Join the Happening HQ discord
discord/HwPHjv7
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>>140094784
it means they are either cucks to the West and will disown Kim, or stand up and support their greatest ally
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Friendship with trump is over
China is my new friend now
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>>140095197
I guess Kim Doesn't know about this huh
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>>140094784
Help him make more nukes?
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I don't know, something along the lines of not shaking your fists and sending out tweets and actually acting like competent, stable statesmen.
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It means the world watches in shock as China invades and kills every nork. The star will gorge itself on clay.
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>>140095401
Hahahahaha
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>>140094784
Putin has already criticized the US for escalating the conflict. Russia wants diplomacy, that has been pretty clear from the get go. For China and Russia, North Korea is a nice buffer zone between them and US backed South Korea.
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>>140094875
Not gonna happen. Kim purged all potential allies of outside forces. The China clique around Jang Song-Thaek and Kim Jong-nam are gone.
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topjej

But seriously i hope the norks let lose before they fall, dead chinks is a good thing all round
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>>140095586
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>>140095447
Will the world come to see the true form of the Tsar Bomba this time?
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>>140094784
What did I miss? Why is everyone at Best Korea's throat agian?
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>>140094980
>until the Norks are a real threat to the West.
You're a mouth breather who has been spending too much time in happening threads. Kim will never ever attack another country. Ever. I know your brain damage makes that hard to comprehend, but read it a few times an eventually it'll sink in.
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>>140095780
Successful H-bomb test
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>>140095727
Those soft fucks in Seoul should be nuked.
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it means they will do nothing, Trump will do nothing, and NK will probably figure out how to load nukes onto ICBMs within 5 years and their missiles will have enough range to hit LA, Chicago, NYC by then, and nobody knows how many they will build or whether they can be shot down since Japan didn't do shit except spook their own people with that J-Alert alarm bullshit when a missile flew right overhead.

It's a shitty situation and Trump really shouldn't have escalated the war of words. The time to take care of NK was before 2004, when they detonated their first nuke. Good luck landing a ground army now against someone who has nukes. Airstrikes = Seoul gets wiped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT5jo7aZzTw

I guess they will try to stop trading (inc. China and Russia), starve them out, induce a civil war or chaos, try a decapitating strike against the leadership.
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>>140094784
Probably a whole lot of nothing on an international scale followed by blocking any kind of meaningful effort to shut the best koreans up
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>>140096047
Would have read if you didn't have a meme flag, sorry bud
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We do not care
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This is an elite unit
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>>140094784
Honestly would anyone be mad if China just annexed NK?

Better them than a nutjob with a fuckton of methed up workers and triggerhappy brainwashed soldiers that have never seen a tablet and still don't know the Berlin wall fell
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>>140095903
Launching a missile over Japan.
A few days later test nuke

You know what if my neighbor came outside with a gun and started shooting it right past me and then I found out he had explosives and he was threatening to use them against me.
I really wouldn't care if one of his buddies said he would never do anything and I was the one that was stupid for thinking otherwise.
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>>140095780
they tested an H-bomb (10x more powerful than their last test) which registered 6.3 on the earthquake scale which everyone in the world with earthquake instruments picked up on.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41140621

alternatively you could just read the fucking front page on any MSM site
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xiping when he saw putinforceone heading his way
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>>140096047
>Airstrikes = Seoul gets wiped
Not if we fuck up their launch sites before they can do shit.
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>>140094784
I don't know, but Trump better fucking react quick. I took a bet that there would be US boots on the ground before the 12th of september.

Hurry up Trump, or you how me 500€.
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>>140095011
The have hundreds of thousands of troops amassed on the northern boarder of NK. There will be an invasion.
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>>140096259
>you owe me 500€

Don't let that typo fool you, you still owe me.
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>>140096178
>Honestly would anyone be mad if China just annexed NK?

South korea might get uppity, but who cares about them
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>>140095495
How will the same conduct over the last 50 years change anything?
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>>140095780
1 MT blast this morning
they Big League now
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>>140096235
Name one thing - one single fucking thing - that Kim will benefit from by nuking/bombing another country. Take your time, I'm highly considerate of slow people.
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>>140095586
Putin wants diplomacy where its convinient for them. Nobody really cares whats convinient for russia since its a banana republic.
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I can't help but imagine what would have happened if Truman let Macarthur have his way.
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>>140096253

Don't you realize they have some artillery pieces that are in range of Seoul?
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>>140096523
What would that neighbor have to gain from it? I don't know, some people just want to watch the world burn.
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>>140096381
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>>140095586
diplomacy is not going to fucking work with the norks, everyone knows this
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I wonder how soon after NK gets their shit pushed in that a (((central bank))) is established
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>>140096523
Guy is nuts. He doesn't need a logical reason to do it.
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>>140096523
He's building detterance for NK. When he will have his arsenal of nukes, no one in the world will able to do anything to him. The end goal is the reunification of Koreas. Russia and China are totally okay with that.
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>>140096499
It was 120 KT
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>>140096499
fat man was an a-bomb with 25mt, you are misinformed
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>>140094784
It means we continue to pretend that china is not giving them nukes
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>>140096523
The primary benefit of having nuclear weapons is deterrence.
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>>140095516
>the star will gorge itself in clay

The Stars and Stripes. America will be given permission to totally destroy the Norks and will overdose on the amount of weaponry needed.
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>>140094784
Cut down food aid by 25% for the next three months
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>>140096774
On the money.
>norks have nuclear deterrant pointed to US
>USA can't do shit without them getting nuked
>norks take over south korea
>then threaten japan
>US looks like a laughing stock after
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>>140095974
>>140096240
>>140096499
Alright, thanks, senpaitachi.
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>>140094784
Spetsnaz in 30 minutes
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>>140094784
send them nukes so they will stop building em.
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>>140096729
This is why your country and Russia don't get along. Different interests, different kinds of diplomacy.
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They're going to hit North Korea so hard it's going to turn South Korea into an island.
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>>140096523
The fact that during one of his fly over tests, like the recent Japan flyover, something malfunctions and it goes tumbling into a city and the wreckage kills some people. The intercept system is not %100 reliable either, which is why this recent launch wasn't targeted, as a miss would create a fiasco.
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>>140096253
>radar is a new invention that the dprk definitely doesn't have
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You're all dumb as fuck if you think NK is nothing but a puppet of the PRC

Its not Kim, its Xi. Thats why the Yanks are pussy as fuck like the South Koreans who let the north and Chain put arty on their border and let them develop nukes

SK, Japan deserve to be invaded, they are cowards, if they have any balls they would BEG the USA for war

Absolute cucks, China now wins
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>>140094784

Redpill yourselves

https://youtu.be/oocfKco3CxI
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>>140094784
>Xinhua news
>rt.com
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>>140096928
Spetznaz. I dint get the chance to use this nearly as often as I'd like.
Pic related.
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>>140097115
Hello kimIDF
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>>140096862
Kek, this.
Russia and China don't want to deal with the refugee fallout from a deleted country.
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>>140097161
Hello James
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>>140094784

Anon5 was right
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>>140096741
kim is a wily little sob, but he ain't nuts
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>>140097115
>let the north and Chain put arty on their border and let them develop nukes
all countries should have this right.
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>>140097035
We also don't get along because Russia indoctrinated 3 generations of children with communist propaganda
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Two commie cunts to deal with another commie cunt

LOL, Trump, the USA, the Japs and SK are total cowards, Im going to root for Russia, China and North Korea now becuase you fuckers appear to be useless even in the face of your own destruction.
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>>140097358
Don't pretend you didn't try to do the same.
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>>140097090
Your idea of NK is 20 years out of date.
Also
> but hurt they've developed a newk.
> says they are too backward to have radar
See the contradiction here?
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>>140096882
No chance of that. The moment they cross they DMZ they get nuked
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>>140097291
Then expect war.
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>>140096928
Un has ex-KGB bodyguards.
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>>140097432
Implying those three get along

You're days are numbered kim, just deal with it
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>>140097229
Fuck off Frank, no one cares.
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>>140097229
You're not wrong.
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>>140097117
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>>140097513
every antagonizing superpower in the last 70 years has had nukes. they're the only thing keeping the world from turning into a giant blood bath, because no one wants to attack a person with a nuke. theres no reason smaller countries can't have the same protection without becoming indentured servants to the nuke holding superpowers
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>>140097532
Ex KGB? I wouldn't worry about 50 yr old fat alcoholic commies
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I just want nucular warfare
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you either invade now and MAYBE china and russia will keep their act or you die later. your choice usa, in the meantime i'll vote for more civil gun right movements.

commies are the cancer of this world and they cannot prosper without your destruction.
choose one.
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>>140094784
Give me one good reason to not assassinate Kim Jong-Un and replace him with Kim Han-Sol
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>>140097532
Putin is ex-KGB.
Do you really think Spetsnaz don't know all the KGB tactics by now?
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>>140094784
>mfw NK is just doing what America and the USSR did when they got nukes
>mfw the world stage is getting butthurt that its NK and not Iran like the rabbi want
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North Korea. It's booming

http://theduran.com/truth-north-korea-booming/

If North Korea really is achieving per capita annual GDP growth rates of 9% as claimed by the Hyundai Research Institute, and if salaries really have grown 250-1,200% over the last 10 years, then North Korea has the fastest growing economy in the industrialised world, and its people are seeing the fastest growth in real incomes in the world.

That no doubt explains the growing self-confidence of the North Korean leadership and the genuine popularity (as opposed to personality cult) of Kim Jong-un, which even some Western observers are reluctantly admitting.

One of the great problems of the West is that it always seem to struggle to recognise or adjust to a change of reality in any particular given situation.

Just as the West imposed economic sanctions on Russia in 2014 in the completely mistaken belief that Russia’s economy is a house of cards – which is what it was in the 1990s – so the West still believes that North Korea is a basket case one step away from total collapse, as it also was in the 1990s.

The result in both cases is a fruitless search for sanctions in order to tip things over, and anger and bafflement when they fail to work.

In the case of North Korea, what the West believes is the ‘magic bullet’ – Chinese sanctions – will never happen on anything like the scale the West wants or which would make a significant difference. Given that this is so the thing to do is what the West has always and consistently refused to do and which the Chinese and the Russians are urging the West to do: open direct talks with Kim Jong-un.
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>>140096523

Pushing the status quo enough that he can get economic benefits from NOT attacking his neighbors.

Literally China's playbook.
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>>140094784
"appropriately deal" with N. Korea aka do nothing or at the most sanctions.
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>>140098184
>dude diplomacy is the answer
we've been trying this for years
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>>140097733
NUCULAR WARFARE CONFIRMED
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>>140095586
>North Korea is a nice buffer zone between them and US backed South Korea
That is such a rubbish strategy.
The only reason (besides the legacy of containing Japan post WW2) the U.S. is in South Korea is because of the Kim family's machinations of the past 60+ years. U.S military activity would scale back dramatically without China's pet constantly snarling.
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>>140097457
>fucking whoosh
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>>140094980

4th post best post.
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reminder that China is the only power that can deal with NK.
reminder that Russia has to back China
reminder that China, Russia, and the US are allies.
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>>140095586

Putin and Xi are scared children who can't be bothered. Sad!
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>>140098184
>Just talk with them
WE'VE BEEN TRYING FOR YEARS YOU FAGGOT HE DOESN'T PICK UP THE PHONE
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IM FUCKING DONE WITH THIS, just wake me up if anything happens fucking world, fucking pussy leaders.
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Reminder: US is still at war with North Korea.

Nucular warfare please.
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>>140098604
>reminder that China, Russia, and the US are allies..
Nope. The US is engaged in all but a hot "kinetic" war with the RF right now...
Do you know the US shuttered tow Russian embassies two days ago?
It contravenes international law.. Escalates tension with RF and achieves basically nothing useful.
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>>140098834
This is true. For the past 70 years the US has refused to negotiate a peace treaty with NK.
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>>140098748
Maybe he watched The Greatest Story Never Told and thought "I should try some of that"
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>>140096047
Trumps words were the last shot at peace. Even the Russians and Chinese are waking up to the inevitability of conflict and thus their pet is becoming a liability. Either the US invades NK by themselves and dictates all land holdings and military bases there or the Chinese and Russians help and have some say in the matter. What is unfortunate is that millions of SKs will probably die though.
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>>140098370
>>140098748

I think you birdbrains don't know how diplomacy works. The US has a list of demands for NK prior to any major diplomacy taking place, why the fuck would they ever accept anything?
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>>140095516
holy shit youre right
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>>140098748
If we talk all we will hear is gibs so what is the point?
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>>140094784
Bio attack pls
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>tfw work in military intelligence targeting SE Asia and know exactly what is about happen
>fingers are itching to tell /pol/
>but can't because I like having a job and a security clearance

I miss Middle East habbedings, so I can participate in discussions again.
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Don't say you weren't warned - NK in 2015:
3 YEARS AGO:
North Korea says it sees no need to negotiate with 'gangster' US

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea said it sees no need to negotiate with the US, accusing Washington of plotting to “bring down” its regime, and threatened to strike back using all its military resources.

NK routinely seeks to raise tensions ahead of annual joint military drills by US and South Korean forces that usually begin in March.
>This year, Pyongyang has offered to suspend nuclear testing if Washington calls off the exercises.

North Korea’s National Defence Commission said the US was inching close to “igniting a war of aggression” and the Obama administration was working to trigger its demise.

“Since the gangster-like U.S. imperialists are blaring that they will ”bring down“ the DPRK ... the army and people of the DPRK cannot but officially notify the Obama administration of the USA that the DPRK has neither need nor willingness to sit at the negotiating table with the U.S. any longer,” it said.

Using the North’s official name of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK), it said Pyongyang had decided “to write the last page of ... US history”.

“(Smaller), precision and diversified nuclear striking means and ground, naval, underwater, air and cyber warfare means will be used,” the commission said.

President Barack Obama said in an interview... “Over time you will see a regime like this collapse,”..

The angry response by North Korea’s defense commission came after its foreign ministry said Washington had rejected its invitation for top US nuclear envoy handling North Korea to visit for talks.

Sung Kim, the US special representative for North Korea policy, said in Beijing he was open for talks with the North Koreans. However, the State Department denied there was any plan for talks or change in its position that Pyongyang must first show it was serious about ending its nuclear ambitions.
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>>140096737
who do you think is selling them these bombs? lol


you have to give to receive :)
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>>140095903
Are there actual Communists in Australia?
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>>140100353
yes, melbourne is full of them
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>tfw u realize NK exists because it makes the US look less impactful and china and russia look like valiant protectors
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>>140100353
Not going to be many left soon
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>>140099819
Soon
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>>140099020
Because they are false puppet
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>>140100051
>Larping this hard
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>>140098804
Flip is not human
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>>140100259
Have you seen this ?

The US does so much sneaky shit that Burgers have no clue about.
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>>140094875

See how much more efficient dealing with rogue nations can be when assassination is on the table?
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>>140094784
>What did they mean by this?
It means that Trump is stumped
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These fuckers
1) split the country
2) brought communism
3) made Korean war possible
4) kept up the division when the war was nearing the end
5) propped the Nork economy for decades
6) continue to trade with them, thus keeping up the regime

It would only be high time they would do something. But they will not
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>>140094784
well damn, if fatass was all a part of Russia seeking greater influence and can be contained by talking to Putin then I'm impressed.
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>>140096178
Wouldn't that be like giving eastern Germany to Russia?
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>>140100051
Even your dog reckons your shitposting (badly)
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>>140096342
Let it happen. I'm willing to bet Kim hits Beijing with a nuke and has his flaccid empire crushed
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>>140100945
Nice western Kool aid version of history.
The fact NK. Is a "thing" in 2017 is because what you just regurgitated is not even close to how NK, China, Russia, Japan and even SK understand what happened in the "Korean" war.
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>>140094875
It was a suicide.
>locked his own door
>tied himself up
>shot himself twice in the back of the head.
So many people commiting sodoku this way recently, is it new fashion?
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>>140096587
Nothing good for anyone
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>>140094784
US attitude towards north Korea nukes
>Oh my God they have nukes!

Russian
>go ahead north Korea and fire one at Russia and see what happens

China
>we probably could use one to control shrink our population, but we make more money now from South Korean trade so you aren't worth it anymore
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"Central banking has truly taken over the entire planet.
At this point, the only major nation on the globe that does not have a central bank is North Korea.
"There are some small island countries such as the Federated States of Micronesia that do not have a central bank, but even if you count them, more than 99.9% of the population of the world still lives in a country that has a central bank.

"So how has this happened? How have we gotten the entire planet to agree that central banking is the best system?
Did the people of the world willingly choose this? Of course not.
"To my knowledge, there has never been a single vote where the people of a nation have willingly chosen to establish a central bank. Instead, what has happened is that central banks have been imposed on all of us.

"All over the world, people have been told that monetary issues are “too important” to be subject to politics, and that the only solution is to have a group of unelected, unaccountable bankers control those things for us.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-10/guess-how-many-nations-world-do-not-have-central-bank
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>>140096322
>help police a madman is trying to take my last 50€
>you'll be hearing from my lawyer about that $5 you owe me
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Why Do North Koreans Hate Us? One Reason — They Remember the Korean War.
https://theintercept.com/2017/05/03/why-do-north-koreans-hate-us-one-reason-they-remember-the-korean-war/

For the record, it was the North Koreans, and not the Americans or their South Korean allies, who started the war in June 1950, when they crossed the 38th Parallel and invaded the south. Nevertheless, “What hardly any Americans know or remember,” University of Chicago historian Bruce Cumings writes in his book “The Korean War: A History,” “is that we carpet-bombed the north for three years with next to no concern for civilian casualties.”

How many Americans, for example, are aware of the fact that U.S. planes dropped on the Korean peninsula more bombs — 635,000 tons — and napalm — 32,557 tons — than during the entire Pacific campaign against the Japanese during World War II?

How many Americans know that “over a period of three years or so,” to quote Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay, head of the Strategic Air Command during the Korean War, “we killed off … 20 percent of the population”?

Twenty. Percent. For a point of comparison, the Nazis exterminated 20 percent of Poland’s pre-World War II population. According to LeMay, “We went over there and fought the war and eventually burned down every town in North Korea.”

Every. Town. More than 3 million civilians are believed to have been killed in the fighting, the vast majority of them in the north.
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>>140094784
>Xinhua
>RT
It's the Double Trouble of fucking State Run Propaganda. Although Xinhua is FAR worse. At least RT actually gets shit done and gets Video and Pictures and shit.
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>>140094784
just looks like putin and xi want to die too kek
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>>140101811
German
>we need a more United Europe to deal with these threats with Germany ready to lead you!

UK
>This is interpreting tea time.

France
>no honestly we really don't care
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>>140102337
Can you please explain this burger obsession with "state run" RT?
Why not the same concern for the BBC?
Canadian Broadcaster
Australian ABC?
I did search a while back - most countries have a state broadcaster - why this fixation on RT?
Genuinely curious
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>>140096260
source or fake
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What's actually preventing North Korea to tell the UN to fuck off and leave the origanisation?
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>>140103403
Pretty much nothing
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>>140102859

Double standards, biases, lack of intellectual honesty.
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>>140095691
Everyone in North Korea is a potential ally of outside forces.
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>>140094875
they have dirt on hillary?
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>>140103546
So, pretty much identical to US media?
Which is CIA controlled - according to the CIA.
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So -it's ok for the US to fire rockets at NK, gets butt hurt when NK does same?

US and South Korea launch missiles in defiance of Russia and China
July 2017
http://theduran.com/us-and-south-korea-launch-missiles-in-defiance-of-russia-and-china/

Hours after Russia and China both stated that it is the objective of both countries to freeze the North Korean nuclear programme and also to freeze joint military drills between SK and the US, the United States and South Korea did the complete opposite of the wishes of two of the three world super-powers and the only countries which neighbour the Korean peninsula.

The US and SK have just launched several surface-to-air missiles from South Korean territory which landed in international waters.

US force in Korea issued the following statement about the launches:

“Eighth US Army and Republic of Korea (ROK) military personnel conducted a combined event exercising assets countering North Korea’s destabilising and unlawful actions on July 4.

This exercise utilised the Army Tactical Missile System and the Republic of Korea Hyunmoo Missile II, which fired missiles into territorial waters of South Korea along the East Coast”.

While the show of force by the US and South Korea ultimately will not change the political dynamic on the Korean Peninsula, it does demonstrate a grave insult to both Russia and China.
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>>140102859
>Posting a Noam Chomsky quote
Because different countries have different levels of freedom for the press. Using the phrase State Run usually signifies the idea that Putin himself is giving the direction for news.

You are right when you are saying that our press is also shit and connected to our government, but censorship and direction of the news are usually much more associated with Russia than the US.
>INB4 American money is controlling the direction of the news just as much.
Our adversity system in politics keeps things checked and balanced. CNN is a state run news but it hates Trump.
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>>140104034
Underrated
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>>140094784
>>140103400
>>140104279
1. Call Japan and South Korea.
2. Gather and analyze intelligence of every priority target inside NK.
3. Organize the largest simultaneous missile strike in world history.
4. All at once, at 3:45 a.m., send thousands of missiles into NK and erase their military capability from the Earth.
5. Move in and dominate.
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>>140101781
>he committed suicide inside of a padlocked bag
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>>140094931
>probably the opposite of what the us has done the last 100 years

What do you mean by that?
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>>140104135
Did a quick search on this: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207647
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>>140105153
Meaning something might actually get done
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>>140096531
what is the single resource that props up their economy?
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>>140094784
It means that whatever their decision might be, one will back the other.
>jewsrael had illegal nuke program killing and jailing dissidents
>silence, no sanctions, gets billions in "help"
>best korea tries to not become another Libya
>sanctions, threats, embargo
>fuck off
>WTF STOP DOING THAT OR WE WILL DESTROY YOU
Westerners are funny.
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>>140094784
Haha, it's a fucking race. Who gets to install a new Nork government first.

The USA or Russia/China. Russia and China don't like the idea of a US puppet bordering their countries. The US want exactly that.

It will get exciting. And if we're lucky it could escalate into a global thermonuclear war, lads!
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>>140100551
Certainly looks that way. It's either Russia and China ganging up on their neighbor and withdrawing their proxy monkey, or, something more amazing: a US/Russia joint operation against the norks
>>
America status:cucked
I wonder what the western media narrative will be when Russia and China have delivered peace and not war.

I'm guessing the jews ie Trump will force ww3 on us to save face.
>>
Would be curious to know if this is the old Russian style thermonukes (layered hydrides and uranium/plutonium) or is this something like a more modern nuke (FOGBANK radiation channeler material with hydride + gas booster). If the latter, we've got big fucking problems. Someone is helping them (China); it took us a long time really to make the jump from 2 stage boosted to a true thermonuclear weapon.
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>>140106028
>a US/Russia joint operation against the norks
After Trump threw Putin under the bus? Keep dreaming.
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>>140097874
underated post
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>>140104826
Were you in the Huma Abedin threads?
The emails proving the control and collusion with the US media?
How many journos have been killed in the US as they investigate too close to vested interests?
"Arcancide" is a meme... But there's a reason for that...
Of course RT has a "world view".... But so too does the BBC....and Aussie ABC..
Murdoch has controlled media here, in the UK and via News Corp in the US.
Fortunately there are blogs, !/pol/! And other ways to find information and balance / evaluate ...
I like RT sassy adverts
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>>140096809
no, it was kt
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>>140106125
You guys need to access better global media.
There's a BRICS meeting underway.
Russia, China and India have discussed NK.
The US is irrelevant. Sorry.,
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>>140103757
No. North Korea's system is based on military families to dominate civilians.
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>>140095401
Wow, that's some real news. Since when aren't they allied?
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>>140096047
>bomb their positions to shit
>put hundreds of phalanx in seoul so the norks can't retaliate with artillery.

best plan ever
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>>140094784
Oh shit, this time Ivan AND Zhang will be wagging their finger and talking in a stern manner.
NK better be ready.
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>>140106666
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>>140106666
>>140106856
i don't get it, plz explain
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>>140106999
>>140106666
quads and trips holy shit
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>>140095401
We could have had it all, Ivan.
Our bourbon with your vodka powers combined.
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>>140106220
what an excellent, patient, and informative response. I am not sure someone who would be so dense as to endorse something like "Our adversity system in politics keeps things checked and balanced CNN is a state run news but it hates Trump" can even perceive what you're saying but I applaud your efforts and hope the message was not lost after all.

>You guys need to access better global media.
You couldn't be more right. Standard tv services rarely if ever include an international news provider, and our news networks are not quite on the level of international coverage as say... BBC, or even CBC for that matter. Our media is state run and the proof is in how the talking points are disseminated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw2BVI9OhC4
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>>140100945
So only governments may exist that are approved by the US?
Well Russia and China care to differ. There will not be a one world government, not without total war that will end humanity.
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>>140106220
>Were you in the Huma Abedin threads?
>The emails proving the control and collusion with the US media?

It showed how connected Hillary was to CNN. It also showed how comedians and fundraisers are all connected in a circle that plans and talks about what they want to present information as. But for all of those connections, Hillary couldn't control Fox News articles about her or other investigative reporting about the Clinton Family dealings.

What I am trying to get at here is that there are checks and balances in place for News when there are competing main sources of news. They are connected to different interests so they all oppose each other and give some actual news that goes against the other side. RT's interest is pretty clear, but I guess I can't comment on the rest of Russias reporting outlets because I don't know enough about it.
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>>140094784
They will give them more free shit and promise to veto all UNSC resolutions against them if they promise to cut down on the ballistic and nuclear tests..
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I guess at the end of the day they would prefer to keep that region under non NATO control - but it would be a costly endeavor to invade military I think. Suppose they could support a friendly entity within the North Korean government who would be a better lap dog.
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>>140107561
There can be only one legitimate government... on the Korean peninsula.

Russia and China are afraid of the short term consequences of an explosing/implosing North Korea. There is no need for an unified Korea to pivot towards USA
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>>140107915
Nice, this goes perfectly with Trump's "we will stop trading with countries that trade with NK".

It won't happen. Nothing will happen. Again. And again. And again.
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>>140107385
>>140107385
Did you not see the part in my initial response where I said that our media was shit and connected to the government? I'm just comparing RT to our news.
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>>140107385
Thank you.
I know the Soviet system meant tight controls on media. But the RF media, in my estimation, matches that of the US.
Burgers think Russia is still the old, Cold USSR... But that is long gone.
None of us have a totally "free" media - and we are all seeing the tightening of control over internet such as gulag,, faecesbook, twittertwats and the like.
But, despite all the control and collusion, information is still seeping through.
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>>140108104
>There can be only one legitimate government... on the Korean peninsula.
And who says which one is legitimate? As I see it NK gov is not one that I like but what they are doing is building a deterrent to stop the US from invading.
No one has the right from the outside to dictate how their gov is going to look like.
Russia and China are right in supporting them in principle. Anything else would mean that the US can dictate everything down to who is allowed to rule a country.
This is unacceptable. As long as NK do not attack their neighbours the US should simply fuck off.
But maybe the US needs to have a nuclear war to learn that lesson.
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>>140094784
These sanctions are retarded. If someone's preparing to box your head off, you're supposed to put up your dukes, not make them angrier.
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>>140108357
There are no "checks and balances" in mainstream media. There are only agendas - sometimes they overtly line up, and sometimes they don't.
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>>140094784
The Russian way to deal with "the Korean crisis":

>In 1950 keep egging on Kim Il-Sung to expand South and re-unify the peninsula, in order to relieve U.S. pressure on the USSR in Europe, especially Berlin
<Up to the collapse to the USSR urge them to provoke the U.S. without starting another war
>After '91 allow former Soviet nuclear scientists to migrate to North Korea, knowing full well that they are developing a full-fledged nuclear program and can't do it alone
<After Putin gets into power, one of the first visits is to North Korea to reaffirm diplomatic ties and co-operation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJCTq8X5Sd8
>Since NK has been testing Nukes, only condemn them in exchange for concessions from South Korea, recently mostly allowing exports of advanced technology that the U.S. has under sanctions after what happened in Ukraine
<Now keep calling the U.S. to unilaterally surrender in the standoff and withdraw all it's forces and bases from SK to reach peace on the peninsula and avoid nuclear war.

Oh wow such responsibility, much appreciated Based Russia!
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>>140094784
>What did they mean by this?

A strongly worded letter.
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>>140095169
It's been nice guys, good luck in the fallout.
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>>140108736
I would agree that there are adgenda's both share, but when democrats and republicans hate each other their outlets give good information. It doesn't work perfectly, but because they have competition we can get good stuff.

As long as you can acknowledge their agendas any source of information is good. The competition against each other produces lots of information and more competing sources.
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>>140094980
This guy gets it
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>>140108470
I'm not saying which, but for the sake of argument let's say the one government that does not commit crimes against humanity such as enforced disappearance, extermination, murder, enslavement, torture, rape, persecution and forcible transfers.

>No one has the right from the outside to dictate how their gov is going to look like.
And in the case of North Korea, not from the inside either
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>>140106666
quads confirm best plan
we bombing the norks now
but what the fuck are phalanx
>>
>>140097117
varg is a retard and so are you
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>>140109931
Phalanx CIWS
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>>140095586
Obama ignored them for the most part, yet still they ranted about nuking ebil USA. Being nice doesn't work, ignoring them doesn't work either.
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>>140109890
I don't care what they do internally. As far as I'm concerned they can put babies into ovens, don't give a damn.
It's their business what they do in their country. I deny the existence of human rights and international law in its entirety.
If the US invades and is nuked then the US gov deserved it as far as I'm concerned.
If the US provokes a total war that ends humanity then humanity deserves it and god will greet the righteous among us who defended the right of a people to defend itself as friends.
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>>140096260
>be Best Korea
>see imperialist American pigdogs and their Worst Korean lapdogs as the big enemy
>prepare accordingly
>make your southern border impenetrable
>start building missiles and nukes because you're extra paranoid about America
>turns out you were right to be paranoid when King Nigger tries to topple Assad and just sows chaos instead
>start legit preparing for an American invasion

>only to get raped from behind by Russia and China and run over in 2 hours
>tfw
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>>140105153
the opposite of nothing is something
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>>140109252
>much appreciated Based Russia!
you're welcome, comrade
now go push Russia around some more
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>>140110174
Obama threatened them with "regime change".
And continued to arm SK and conduct drills and missile testing close to NK.
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>>140096882
Dumb murricano, did you mouthbreathe while typing your KFC-essay?
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>>140110198
This is btw why religious people will always win, always. You faggot Nihilists and liberals will tremble at the prospect of dying in a war.
People like me literally do not care. If the degenerates cannot leave us living according to our own rules in peace then we will gladly end the world and do gods work, purging all degeneracy from this earth.
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>>140098748
>American "diplomacy"
>you will do everything we want you to do, and if you don't we'll put in sanctions that will cripple your economy and starve millions of your people in the hope they revolt against you and let us introduce (((democracy))), with a proper (((central bank))) of course
The real butthurt about North Korea isn't that diplomacy doesn't work - it's that they revealed to the world that one can, in fact, defy American """diplocamy""" and get away with it.
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>>140094784
It means "Based Russia" and chinkistan will be eating popcorn on the sidelines as their bastard child nukes innocent people.
>hur durr america causes so much world problems
>never take any responsibility for post wwii puppet states and failed post soviet shitholes.
>>
>>140096523
>What is an irrational actor
>>
>>140111409
Trump?
>>
>>140111409
No, it's you homosexual liberals who are irrational.
You can't fucking conceive the possibility that someone sticks to principles so strictly that it makes them willing to do absolutely anything.
The EU will soon either be ruled by either fundamentalist Christian right wingers or Muslims.
In either case people like you will be fucked, for you don't reproduce. You are a dying breed.
I as a Christian would rather gang up with Muslims on degenerates like you than support the filthy, degenerate world you try to create.
>>
>>140110682
Has that cat got Dmitry peskovs eyes?
OT I know, but ..
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>>140111409
Kim isn't irrational. He wants NK to be a full-blown nuclear power and have a seat at the big kids table, and he needs to keep the nation at a constant state of near war in order to hold onto power.
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>>140109890
>...commit crimes against humanity such as enforced disappearance, extermination, murder, enslavement, torture, rape, persecution and forcible transfers.

^This "job description" fits the US extremely well.
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>>140112467
Thank G-d Republic of Korea is a sovereign state
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>>140106508
India? So, are China and India bros now? Wtf was that border shit about?

I've got a good feeling about this... I reckon whatever was discussed at BRICS meeting was relayed back to Mattis and Kelly and they're briefing Trump.

If China and Russia take care of the situation in much more effective way then it would be best option IMHO. If America launches a strike, it's thermonuclear war.
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>>140112312
He also wants to develop the 6-10 trillion of mineral and other resources. He wants sanctions gone and the capacity to trade.
The US, of course, wants to control and profit from NK development.
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>>140094784
Give him South Korea
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>>140105820
I don't fucking get it. We have Japan and South Korea and Guam. Isn't that enough? North Korea is too dangerous... they should just accept Kimmy as one of the big boys now and make the best of it. We can still always turn them into glass if need be but maybe right now we are better off trying to buddy buddy them and then trojan horse their asses at a later time.
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>>140112723
Visit .... theduran.com
Lots of excellent articles on what's been achieved at the BRICS meeting so far.
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>>140096102
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>>140111409
>building a deterrent as fast as he can
>irrational
>"I don't need to think because CNN told me that fatso is nuts"
Are you retarded? Do you even strategy?
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>>140094784
It's means they agree to jointly laugh their asses off at Trump
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>>140094784
The beginning of Russia and China making billions off arms sales to North Korea
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>>140094784
that Kim Jong Un will have committed suicide via 3 gun shots to the back of the head in a locked room, blindfolded with his hands tied behind his back
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>>140095586
What if Russia and China actually want to unite North and South Korea under Kim to eliminate the current USA vassal state?
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>>140112723
From The Duran blog:
Trump in bizarre threat to nations who trade with North Korea

Donald Trump’s Tweets have been dominated by North Korea ever since Pyongyang successfully tested what the government claims was a domestically produced hydrogen bomb.

Apart from the par for the course insults to China and threats of military action, the most strange Tweet was the one in which the US President threatened to cease trading with any country doing business with North Korea.

While North Korea conducts little business with the outside world by contemporary standards, a great number of nations do in fact conduct legal business with the DPRK on a frequent basis. This includes many US allies.

NKs most sizeable export partners include:

1. China 2. India 3. Pakistan 4. Burkina Faso

Other countries with business relations with North Korea include but are not limited to: Egypt, Sweden, France, Peru, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Ukraine, Syria, South Africa, Ecuador, Germany, Malaysia, Singapore, Poland, the EU as a whole (including Britain) and many others.

As things stand, were the United States to stop trading with the aforementioned countries, the US would be ceasing trade with some of the most prominent economies in the world.

Clearly, the idea is for America to effectively bully other nations into ceasing their business dealings with North Korea in order to preserve their import and export relations with the US government and US business.

Such a tactic is not only unwise but it is patently aggressive and largely unrealistic. Russia and China have both come out in opposition to further US unilateral sanctions.

Attempting to starve NK into submission is an American plan that Russia would never endorse. The same applies to China.

...... The great economies of the world aren’t a cement company from New York…some of them even have nuclear weapons, including the countries that do the highest levels of business with NK
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>>140094784
It means they wont do anything.
They'll congratulate him.
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>>140109361
> Russia: it was not us, it was u
> Warren: No u. U do all things in bad way

Even U.S. generals are acting like liberals
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>>140094784
What did they mean by the split infinitive, on the BBC no less?
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>>140111910
Look's more like Steve Buscemi to me, but i dunno.
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>>140114926
Shooting a missile over Japan is pretty irrational behavior.
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>>140094931
>probably the opposite of what the us has done the last 100 years
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>>140096235
>muh missile launch
>muh nuclear test
Let me know when those cunts do something out of the ordinary.
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>>140094784
Kim will commit quadripple suicide by hanging him self while shooting him self in the back while smashing his own head against a radiator in a nosedive and then the poison will kick in...


But no, China and Russia are preparing military options.
They will ready them selves to split NK between them selves because a unified Korea will suit them even less than the rogue state of NK that is threatening with nukes.
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>>140119348
>"We're going to attack Guam!"
>patriot missiles are moved south, because the US is that retarded
>shoots a missile over northern Japan, calling out on everyone's incompetence since it wasn't intercepted
>not a single declaration of war
It was a fucking genius move and the US got played like a bitch. If he's irrational, then americans are drooling retards for letting this shit happen.
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