Why is academia so left leaning?

We technically lost the cold war because communism infiltrated our school systems and now we have marxist sjws

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>salon is considered moderate by these people

>>140050587

STEM fields tend to be more right leaning.

Well, leftists are typically more educated than right wingers so it makes sense.

>>140050587

Like most things, it's because of the Germans.

>>140050587
because of the Christians

Because radical left kids of 60's occupied the leading positions in 70's. Unlike right, left doesnt care about credentials but goodthink, hence they only allowed other liberals in leading positions unlike those before them.

Notice how rapidly academy shifted left in 90's when everyone from silent generation had retired and boomers had all the power.

Read up on some reactosphere research on this. Socialmatter.net and Xenosystems are good start points

>>140051235
>more right leaning
i hate hearing this. stem is tied to the same administration as the rest of the departments and any professor who wanted to speak out would be fired immediately. anything in a university takes a left of center approach.

>>140050587
Kind of hard to be right wing and justify getting paid with other people's money to say there are 32 genders for a living. I think most people are apolitical and are only left leaning because it sounds nice and won't get them in trouble.

>>140050587
Because kids are stupid and believe whatever you put in their unformed brains.

>>140051241
that's not how you spell indoctrinated, anon.

>>140050587
jews infiltrated American and European academia in the mid 20th century on largely false qualifications. They then went on to mold their departments to reflect their own ideological bent.

it's like they take moderate to mean "commie rags that aren't your local antifa pamphlet"

>>140050587
>forcing leftist values
You've already answered your own question.

>>140050587
idealism among intellectual "elite". commonplace in the humanities for god knows what reason. probably belief in superiority of opinion because of academic degrees in fields of study unrelated to their beliefs (english major or degree holder thinking that keynes had the right idea).
plus there are more humanities majors so it's more noticeable. no doubt many STEM profs consider socialism a novel idea

>>140050587

because marxists always try to recruit and sway people's mindset's to support their cause.

they love to brainwash, and make people believe what they think.

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>>140050587
2+2=

It's always the answer.

>>140050587
Because it's an environment where stupid ideas can be entertained and explored without having to face the judgement of real-world testing.

>>140050587
i love how there are people writing that shit down. Not coming to this website will make you a braindead zombie. I don't know how you wouldnt have the mainstream mindset if you don't come here at all. Every other media outlet is the same exact bullshit spewing nonsense.

>>140050587

The answer is most likely something like this:

There is something about the type of person who wants to get a Ph.D. and teach in a university that also makes them inclined to be a leftist. Liberalism (a mental disorder) is not a consequence of the Ph.D, but a consequence of the type of person.

The type of person above is not the same type of person who wants to play sports or join the military or work in finance.

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>>140050587
on closer inspection, I found this

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>>140053957
Every time.

>>140050587
Because academics rarely did anything outside of academia; Most of the professors that I've had in my old ChE courses and my current accounting courses have a lot of on-hands experience, those were the ones that really didn't spout much shit about the run of the mill sjw narratives due to how impractical it is to care in practice. Those who don't have any, or limited, experience outside of teaching spout the most shit because they live in a bubble that is the university, raking in thousands of essentially free federal funding through FAFSA that the school has no liability to return on. It's easy to tell what professors already made their lot in life is and teach to spread the knowledge and those who have done nothing but teach

>>140050587
Academia is institutionalized group-think. Independent, i.e. right-wing, thought is thus by definition marginalized.

Of course academia likes to tell itself it's open-minded, but that's its own definition, not a true acceptance of alternative ideas.

We'll know academia has truly become open-minded when instead of saying "only We are the keepers of Truth" they tell people "Go think for yourselves."

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>>140050587

Read this like I'm telling you:

"They. Are. Teaching. People...
That. Is. does. not. Work."

Repeat it a few times, it's like a rhythm. Use 4/4 time. Speed it up or slow it down if you have to.

>>140051828
Wait, wait, wait. You're saying Jews…lie?

Conservatism is all about respecting tradition. Progress (in the technical and progressive sense) is all about breaking tradition to reach a more correct truth. There's no way a conservative institution can last in the long term because it would adhere to traditional dogma too much.

>>140050828

universities are the equivalent of containment boards. there are no commies with any actual influence in business or politics (no, bernie sanders does not fucking count as having "influence," look at congressional committee leaderships)

>>140050828
This also the Jews in the west funded the rise of the Soviet Union and actively worked with the Soviet institutions and KGB that infiltrated the West.

>>140053957
the "slash hate" in the top left doesnt exactly scream moderate either

>>140050587
No white guilt, but wrong deeds did happen.
European imperialism of Africa, Asia, Middle East, and North and South America.

Slavery
genocide of native-indigenous people
stealing their land and polluting it

but thats all good because someone had to do it anyways.

Just dont deny it like they did nothing wrong shit.

Lastly FUCK LIBERALS.

NO ANTIFA

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>>140050587
The real world never hit them in their crybaby face so they never woke up.

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>>140050587
>american education
Are you fucking kidding me?

>>140050587
Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

Academia is where bad ideas go to never die because there's no selective pressure.

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>>140055924
>a more correct truth
Fancy talk for marxist dogma.

Because people in schools, y'know, learn things.

The more dumb you are, the more "conservative" you are. Pretty simple.

College draft deferments made uni the original safe space during Vietnam. The Marxist cowards never left.

>>140050587
Unglue left wing economics from identity politics and it will stop

because right wingers arent smart enough to teach

because people who are right wing tend to actually do things, not just talk about them. I'd imagine that privately, many professors are right-leaning, they just don't feel the need to talk about it, because there are plenty of more important things to talk about (such as the subject they teach).

"academia" is basically the educational equivalent of cuckolding.

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Looks like its almost time to kill c*mmunists.

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>>140056528
>learn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derHRFGZ4NU

How was the communism and leftism formed? By a bunch of Jews in academia in Germany. They're just following their routes of brainwashing people behind closed doors.

That's why leftists always see themselves as the teachers who need to guide the ignorant masses. The reason they hate trump is because he proved then wrong and hurt their credibility. The biggest thing to hurt a teacher is when his own students start questioning if he is actually teaching the right thing.

Because (((they))) fund our schools

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>>140051315
factual information

There have been studies that show the more educated or exposed to global issues / the outside world you are, the less likely you are to hold conservative or intolerant beliefs.

Why is this even a thread?

>>140050587
I went to a small private college in Oklahoma. Most of the professors were typical communists or left-leaning. But I had two professors who were hilariously right-wing one of whom spent at least one class a week ranting about the jews.

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The schools push left wings ideals. At my High school we have to go to mandatory meetings and they talk about how we should be implementing "new teaching methods."

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>>140050587
1. TEACHERS UNIONS. 2. UNIONS ARE COMMUNIST.

>>140056786

Fake.

…As is everything that uses the term "antifa"

They wouldn't call themselves anti-fascist, and then use quotes from a fascist.

Goddam people are so fucking gullible these days.

I thought people on 4chan were all about "the red pill" and not letting themselves be brainwashed.

Gramsci is to blame for this. The left read his ideas and actively tried to take over institutions like that from within.

>>140055705

What did he mean by this?

>>140056961
Nice kikespeak you got there, college boi. conservative OR intolerant...because they are one and the same, right?

also care to post those ((((studies)))?

>>140056528
Part of it is the hardcore anti-science faction in the right-wing community. Climate deniers, etc.

But the social aspect of it really seems two-fold to me. There's a definite SJW part to it, fueled in part by some of the right's unwavering ability to want to be able to insult blacks and gays or deny them service -- all in the name of freedom. But the SJW movement also has its extremists and uses a small minority of people that wants to drive out any and all dissent.

Jonathan Haidt has done some interesting work on mapping this out. I think the first video especially highlights the problems as they exist in school:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqUtgFBWezE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFD5odFv36k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONUM4akzLGE

That's about 5 hours of talking if you can stand to get through it all... Smart man, that, though. Could be worth it if you have the time to kill.

>>140056961
>equating conservative and intolerant

lol

Because people like learning about gender shit, things like that, things at the core of what they and the people around them are, there're threads on it here every day. Not everyone wants to go to college to become an IT computer janitor.

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>>140057156
Are you fucking retarded?

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>>140053957

>>140051550
So all it would take to shift back is the boomers dying off and the younger generations being less cucked?

>>140056855
That's a long dog.

>>140050587
>entire profession relies on getting money from government funding
>surprised when the majority of them are left-leaning

>>140050587
Well all academia is set up to do, at least in America, is put students out in the real world prepared to make corporations more money. And ALL corporations are now super left leaning, because if you can appeal to 'muh feels' you can appeal to their wallets. So now they just teach kids to be lefty robots. They're not interested in the truth anymore. Sad but true

>>140050587
>forcing leftist ideals
>liberal

pick one.

You have to be a productive member of society first to appreciate right wing values. College professors are largely people who couldn't make in the business world.

>>140051235
Not true. Had friends in engineering and they were SUPER left leaning

Now I will grant you that the teachers in stem frields don't teach them to be left leaning, but every engineer faggot spends a ton of his spare time on Reddit and Reddit is stupidly left leaning

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>>140050587
Pic related

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>>140050587
Idk, OP. I'm in electrical engineering, and most of my peers and teachers seem pretty based. Lotta red pilled in engineering students...

>>140051415

>universities are run by atheists/pagan satanists
>Christians fault

>>140050587
If you can't do, do teach.

>>140050587
because skin color/race doesn't guarantee that you can solved problem/answer questions correctly.

>>140050587
The real answer from someone who used to work in research at a university: academia is highly dependent on government funds, and is thus not unlike how people dependent on welfare are more left wing: the desire for money readily corrupts people into supporting what will advantage them.

Note that it is possible to be on welfare and be against lefties, as it is possible to receive grants and be against it as well, but it takes integrity, and thus the situation is corruptible enough to tip the scales.

>>140050587
Right wing = looking after, taking care of, and focusing on yourself

Left wing = looking after, taking care of, and focusing on others.

Left wingers go into education because they want to effect change in the world more than right wingers do.

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>>140057987
Actually left wingers don't do jack shit for others.

>>140055924
This seems like a false dichotomy. You can preserve your society's traditions while actively looking to improve your society within it's existing framework and balance, as opposed to subverting it.

>>140057987
Pro-Tip: If you can't even take care of yourself, you should probably postpone your valiant efforts towards (((taking care of others)))

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>>140051415
wtf i hate christians now

>>140057305

[Robert DeNiro, Men of Honor]
Dammit, cookie!
I'm tryin' ta help people!

>>140058090
Not when your societies traditions are based on false truth like white superiority and belief in an all knowing sky fairy in which you must cut off parts of your penis for when you're a baby

>>140055924
1/3

You're right. But how little it is now understood can be gauged from the procedure of the moral reformer who, after saying that "good" means "what we are conditioned to like" goes on cheerfully to consider whether it might be "better" that we should be conditioned to like something else. What does he mean by better?

He usually has at the back of his mind the notion that if he throws over traditional judgement of value, he will find something else, something more "real" or "solid" on which to base a new scheme of values. He will say, for example, "We must abandon irrational taboos and base our values on the good of the community" - as if the maxim "Thou shalt promote the good of the community' were anything more than a polysyllabic variant of 'Do as you would be done by' which has itself no other basis than the old universal value judgement that he claims to be rejecting. Or he will endeavor to base his values on biology and tell us that we must act thus and thus for the preservation of our species. Apparently he does not anticipate the question, 'Why should the species be preserved?' He takes it for granted that it should, because he is really relying on traditional judgements of value. If he were starting, as he pretends, with a clean slate, he could never reach this principle. Sometimes he tries to do so by falling back on "instinct." "We have an instinct to preserve our species", he may say. But have we? And if we have, who told us that we must obey our instincts? And why should we obey this instinct in the teeth of many others which conflict with the preservation of the species? The reformer knows that some instincts are to be obeyed more than others only because he is judging instincts by a standard, and the standard is, once more, the traditional morality which he claims to be superseding. The instincts themselves obviously cannot furnish us with grounds for grading the instincts in a hierarchy.

>>140058080
The point is that they think they do at the very least.

>>140058136
Not very "Pro", rather obvious in fact. That's the main reason leftist policies fail.

You assholes think Salon and Slate are leftist because you're so far up your alt right ass that you can't even see clearly anymore. They're both moderates

>>140050587
The mode educated you are, the less retarded you become.

Btw im a phoneposter

>>140057488
Basically but these fuckers are going to live to 120 on taxpayer healthcare and STILL be working! We get their jobs when we pry them from their cold dead hands these faggot boomers are in their late 60s and 70s, not actually working at work, and won't give up the jobs.

>>140050587
It used to be right wing in the 50s. But then communist influence corrupted it and by the 60s you saw the first proto SJWs, the SDS.

Liberal in the American sense is almost all social and civil rights, welfare, and challenging the status quo

That's about as undergrad as you can fucking get. Of course they want to change things, they haven't yet invested the years of work in a career and can easily ask for money that isn't theirs

>>140058363
2/3

If you do not bring a knowledge of their comparative respectability to your study of them, you can never derive it from them.

This whole attempt to jettison traditional values as something subjective and to substitute a new scheme of values for them is wrong. It is like trying to lift yourself up by your collar. Let us get two propositions written into our minds:

1)The human mind has no more power of inventing a new value than of planting a new sun in the sky or a new primary colour in the spectrum.

2)Every attempt to do so consists in arbitrarily selecting some one maxim of traditional morality, isolating it from the rest, and erecting it into an unum necessarium.

The second proposition will bear a little illustration. Ordinary morality tells us to honour our parents and cherish our children. By taking the second precept alone you construct a Futurist Ethic in which the claim of "posterity" are the sole criterion. Ordinary morality tells us to keep promises and also to feed the hungry. By taking the second precept alone you get a Communist Ethic in which "production," and distribution of the products to the people, are the sole criteria. Ordinary morality tells us, ceteris paribus, to love our kindred and fellow citizens more than strangers. By isolating this precept you can get either an Aristocratic Ethic with the claims of our class as sole criterion, or a Racialist Ethic where no claims but those of blood are acknowledged. These monomaniac systems are then used as a ground from which to attack traditional morality; but absurdly, since it is from traditional morality alone that they derive such semblance of validity as they possess. Starting from scratch, with no assumptions about value, we could reach none of them. If reverence for parents or promises is a mere subjective by-product of physical nature, so is reverence for race or posterity.

>>140051235
STEM fields just keep quiet to avoid getting fired. They're politically neutralized.

>>140058644
3/3

The trunk to whose root the reformer would lay the axe is the only support of the particular branch he wishes to retain.

Everyone is indignant when he hears the Germans define justice as that which is to the interest of the Third Reich. But it is not always remembered that this indignation is perfectly groundless if we ourselves regard morality as a subjective sentiment to be altered at will. Unless there is some objective standard of good, overarching Germans, Japanese, and ourselves alike whether any of us obey it or no, then of course the Germans are as competent to create their ideology as we are to create ours. If "good" and "better" are terms deriving their sole meaning from the ideology of each people, then of course ideologies themselves cannot be better or worse than one another. Unless the measuring rod is independent of the things measured, we can do no measuring. For the same reason it is useless to compare the moral ideas of one age with those of another: progress and decadence are alike meaningless words.

>>140051550
Exactly this, boomers fucked us

>>140051415
Retardation. Leftists hate Christians. Ironically, I've met more people that were secretly Christian in STEM fields. You get to know someone and have a few beers with them, all of a sudden they tell you how they believe in God and shit. Leftists abhor the idea. They know their degeneracy will lead them into hell, that's why they remove it from their thoughts, it's an discomforting idea when you're a bisexual, tattood up, drugged out faggot, useless piece of trash.

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>>140050587
First off, you have to view academics as basically glorified welfare queens. Many of the people you are talking about are tenured professors. Their jobs and paychecks are well nigh guaranteed until they decide to retire, and their money comes from government grants and from the school's own payroll (which comes from things like taxes, alumni donations, investments, etc.).

The point is, they don't really have to product a product that people want to buy to make money. They barely even have to produce a service, and it doesn't matter if people want it or not. All they really have to do is show up.

Tenure is a powerful thing. It doesn't really matter how bad they are at teaching or how little anyone cares about their research. Outside of the most flagrant violations, they are practically impossible to fire.

On top of that, most of them have no real hireable skills. Either they never had any to begin with, they lost whatever they had after decades of phoning it in post-tenure, or whatever they are good at is an uber-specialized and mostly pointless field that maybe 100 people on the entire planet care anything about.

So you have a group of people for whom a significant subset rely entirely on the government for their livelihood, have no valuable skills, and are mostly isolated from reality. Liberalism isn't just a worldview for these people, it's the only way they can survive.

Go to party and break the ice a little and you notice that everyone has some right wing ideas. Of course I can say this by observing STEM field students (males mostly)

>>140050587
There needs to be a purging of all these wannabe communists/internet communists especially these culturally degenerate regressive self identified autistically idealist SJW LEFT/faux marxists.

They dont realize they would be shot, tortured, and be thrown in gulags/laogai's for the shit they believe in.

Soviet Union and China both practiced strong patriotism, nationalist, strong military, pro military, death penalty, and LGBT-shit = corrupt capitalism and decadent western values.

>>140058437
Good one genius. Did they teach you that in college?

>>140057156
you are braindead

>>140058437
>(((educated)))
>Gender studies degree

>>140050587
>>140050587
>There seems to be a lot of liberals not just teaching but forcing leftist values.

Liberal teachings begin with egalitarianism- think of it as a sort of instrumentality that means to initiate discussions with the basic principle of universally shared autonomy. it's practically humanism.

Conservative teachings are more self-interested, insular, and meaning to find value in pre-established doctrines and belief systems- to promote one's culture and tradition despite its failings. It's ultimate goal is ironically not egalitarianism but instead the highlighting of distinctions between groups and forming hierarchies based on those distinctions. It's a good way to shut down conversation between curious yet different parties interested in new discoveries. That's why it's so antithetical to science and ethics for that matter. Conservatism is less concerned about the solving problems with the human condition and more interested in exploiting it.

Thank god for liberals.

>>140051570
The question was if they are more right-wing, which they are.
Now, can they express their ideas, they cannot indeed but that's another topic.

>>140056528
Depends on your degree. Humanities majors come out dumber.

>>140053957
So what?

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>>140055705
> 9 words
> 11 syllables
> use 4/4 time

>>140050587
>(((((((((berg)))))))))

>>140056230
>those darn non-hating extremists!
>HOW DARE THEY!?

Do you people know how malevolent you seem? Why should anyone care about attempting rational discussions with hateful pieces of shit? It's obvious where the conversation will eventually lead.

>>140058532
tfw you will never be a wasp at an all male ivy league college in New England getting the greatest education in the history of western education and waiting for the upcoming co-ed dance where you will ask your date from the all-girls college to go steady.

>>140057488
>and the younger generations being less cucked?

Good luck on this tho. The younger students are being indoctrinated by the professors and raised to think the exact same things.

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>Why is academia so left leaning?
It lives off of taxdollars and government debt gibs. Not complicated. Anytime "X" is left-leaning, it's because its livelihood depends on sucking off the state.

>>140057770
Im an engineer and I spend an unholy amountof time in this shithole

>>140050587

Communists subversion .

>>140060471
Holy shit, good catch.

Because modern education wants to avoid conflicts
It starts in the kindergarten already where kids are not allowed to argue, fight over a toy or cry, they get their ass pampered all day.
While the right tends to me more logically and based on who is stronger but that is not wanted in modern education

Imo

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>>140059042
>all of a sudden they tell you how they believe in God and shit
>hiding your faith
Not real Christians.

>>140050587
mass education is a "leftist" idea

>>140050587
Because academia is heavily tied with research, or advancing human knowledge. This progressivism and humanism are key values of the left, so it’s no surprise that the corresponding institutions also align with this way of thinking

>>140061558

I blame the dutch

>>140061590
Yes. Progressing. Like how there are no genders, and you have to use proper pronouns. What leaps we are making today. Shit like Heart transplants? BTFO to new age progress. Also, science is sexist and problematic.

the whole 'leftists own colleges' is a total urban myth perpetuated by morons who've never been, or already have jaded preconceived notion of what college is like. i have met plenty of conservatives in college...

most republican politicians have been to college- guess they weren't indoctrinated in the liberal cesspool?

liberal arts departments tend to be more left wing...

everything else is moderate or right wing...

business schools- right wing
law schools- right wing
stem majors- moderate to right wing

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>>140050587

Academia is hierarchical. All it takes is a small number of people at the top to have leftist views for these to trickle down to everyone else. If you want to be a successful graduate student and hired as an associate professor you need to align yourself with the world view of a phd supervisor who will become your mentor and build a network of similar minded people off of this.

Someone told me a story of how he got a 15,000 dollar check for selling his jeep and getting solar power installed during carters days.

>>140061590
You know it's funny. I always hear people talk about how academics are about coming up with better ideas for mankind etc. If that's the case, why do they still promote shit like communism that doesn't work? If they truly wanted to improve mankind, they would find better alternatives instead of relying on the same failed product.

Maybe academia has stagnated and is no better than corporations. That's why we have so many shitty ideas these days coz they all have writer's block.

>>140061795
>muh social change
Yes it is progress because it’s making the world a more inclusive and socially just place.
>Heart transplants
Do you really believe all the researchers in that field quit to pursue gender studies? Medicine never left the spotlight, rather other fields started developing

>>140061956
I've actually been to university, tyvm. In my experience, it's not myth. Stem majors with conservative values tend to just keep to themselves about politics. You're more encouraged to just not talk about politics, and I imagine it's the same for business and law. I know for a fact that the most vocal crowds in most universities are leftists. It's still socially unacceptable to be conservative.

>>140062439
>Medicine never left the spotlight, rather other fields started developing
the other fields are not only getting in the way of real progress, they are causing social regression.

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>>140061956

No one in college is allowed to have socially conservative views or sympathy with traditionalist viewpoints or fascism. The conservatives that are allowed to exist are cosmopolitan neoliberals who believe in creating a global marketplace. Every argument in the social sciences and humanities are made in the context of one liberal position versus another position that is more radically leftwing. Actual rightwing ideologies are treated like scary dragons that we heroically slaughtered sometime in the past.

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>>140050587
>Why isn't academia more right wing? Or at least more center?
Jews. I'm not even joking, this is covered in Culture of Critique

>>140050587
He's right you know.

All of those websites are well within the overton window of liberal respectability. Can you name a single one that challenges capitalism/imperialism in a meaningful way? None of them can be considered actually left-wing.

>>140051235
then explain silicon valley being the sjw hotbed of the 21st century