Men of Pol how would you make the economy better for me?

>>140018199
How does another HR department roasty help anyone? Do you provide a survice people actually need? Are you somehow above shoveling shit? Why would you benifit from a system that you dont make any meaningful contributions towards?

Ask not what your contry can do for you, cunt.

>>140018732
If you do something for your country it should do something for you back.

Women make a lot of the purchases in this country and keep the economy going.

>>140018199
Fuck you

Women shouldn't be in the workforce. You cut wages in half and make it harder for your husband to support a family. And if you actually don't want a family you are basically a brainwashed jew.

Either way get the fuck off /pol/ roastie

>>140018895
>women buy shit

wow thanks capitalism. you are buying shit with your husband's money. there are more important things than keeping the economy going. like being a mother and raising kids responsibly for the betterment of the republic

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>>140018199
>Men of Pol

>>140018943
You're proving that Millennial MALES are going to ruin the economy for Millennial females. I don't have a husband. My parents wages were never cut in half because they were smart enough to go union. Sucks to be you with your debt

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>>140018199
You want equal rights in the work place but refuse father's rights.

>80% sole custody to women
>66% divorce initated by women
>greater 50% divorce rate

Men love their children and deserve equal rights

>>140019487
Males are the economy faggot. You are an unwed ugly roastie. Women in the workforce obviously drive wages down. Its a 1950s experiment thats failing right before your eyes.

>smart enough to go union

So your parents are basically lazy shits?

>debt

Yes my monthly car payment is crushing me

>going to ruin the economy for millennial females

Literally how? By existing? Are you fucking retarded sweetie

>>140019487
>I don't have a husband.
get one then. there's no civilization without couples

>>140019951
Lazy because they didn't see their wages falling LOL?

It's not failing. I'm going into a high paying field while you angry sexist men are in minimum wage jobs. If people negotiated more for their wages they'd be paid higher.

WOMEN'S wages went up. So did female opportunities. Women outside of the workplace don't have as much autonomy over spending money or leaving an abusive asshole.

>>140019971
Men being "red pilled" especially my own generation shows a career is necessary. I'm going to laugh at the women who become Stepford wives for them.

>>140020529
Union workers are notoriously lazy in both public and private sectors. You basically have mob protection.

>going into a high paying field

Good. Enjoy your cats. Have fun LARPing as a man.

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>>140020694
>Im going to laugh while women my age get married and have children, while I waste away the most important part of my life chasing a paycheck and letting my ovaries dry up so the Jews can destroy Western Civilization

GIRL POWER

>>140020730
Union workers didn't have their wages fall while your parents worked themselves to death for peanuts. It's so funny seeing your parents so exhausted whereas mine got to go on more vacations. And that's why you became a woman hating POS.

I was able to live an economic lifestyle people say no longer existed after the 70s because my parents were smart like that. Does that piss you off?

>>140020964
While they never have any autonomy over their lives despite being adults. Whereas I can travel to other countries and have fun whenever I want.

Flag related.

>>140021003
No it doesn't because my dad worked on wallstreet and my mom stayed at home.

I dont hate women I have a fiancee. I just feel bad for you because you are brainwashed. Have fun ruining your own life. Maybe you can get lucky and have a kid at 35 with down syndrome

>>140021141

>going on slutcations

Nice, this is good bait. I see you laid a pretty obvious trap here, lets see if people fall for it

>>140021271
Wall Street is an evil organization and your dad was probably on Coke all the time LMAO.

Why is it OK for you to chase your dreams but not me? Because you have a magical penis?

Your fiance probably will have to beg you to shell out cash for her. Whereas I can get myself cash whenever I want.

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>>140021141
>would rather travel for instagram likes and waste money than be a pillar of civilization and raise a family

Do you honestly think marriage is like slavery?

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>>140018199
Tits or GTFO

>>140021445
I know the reality that you don't have autonomy if you plan on being a SAHM for the rest of your life and not just temporarily. The man can always control you and the man can always decide to not allow purchases even if the wife wants or needs it.

>>140018199

The only way you can make the west prosper is to somehow get back the industry that fled to asia.

This is hard to achieve since if only a single party decides to impose tariffs, it loses competitiveness in face of the remaining, therefore no one dares.

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>>140018199
That's some really weak bait, you retarded faggot.

>>140021433
>wallstreet is evil

Yes helping people get more money for retirement is evil lol. 401ks are the devil.

Kill yourself bernie

Anything my fiancee wants I will try to provide for her because she will be the mother to my children and i love her. She's my future wife and I will do anything I can to support her because we are a team.

>>140021639
Nah I'm just angry at the sexists. If the economy improves I want a part of the good economy otherwise they are wrecking MY personal economy for me.

>>140021613
Women should be controlled because thats what the Bible says faggot. Its better for you in the long run. Uncontrolled women cause the destruction of society as we see today.

Just know that you are the reason why the West is failing. You have taken Jewish propaganda hook line and sinker. You are so demoralized you associate marriage with slavery and wage cucking as liberation.

>>140021741
Feminism is cancer. Go suck Tyrone's nigger dick one more time and maybe he'll creampie your fat rolls next time.

>>140021666
http://www.bastabalkana.com/2013/07/wall-street-and-the-rise-of-hitler-the-history-of-banks-who-funded-nazis/

Your dad worked for an organization that was responsible for many deaths and financial collapses. That makes him working for evil IMO.

>>140018199
>Women destroying civilization
>Women going back into the kitchen
I'll stick with the second option while we figure out how to give you another chance for the 24th chance to have fun and be independent without ruining it for everyone else.

>>140021741
There is nothing in the modern world stopping you from being successful. Companies bend over backward to suck your dick.

No modern politician is going to take anything away from you, you fucking idiot. What makes you think anyone is going to stop you from becoming a CEO of a fortune 500 and running it into the ground?

>>140021993
> all men are ebil D:<

>>140021844
LOL nah. I know from EXPERIENCE idiot. I didn't grow up in the same divorced households of falling wages you did. I know if you don't make the money you have no say over anything.

You think you're liberating me? How is being CONTROLLED being liberated?

>>140018199
How about you get off of your cute little butt and contribute to making things better, instead of waiting for us to do things, then complaining about them until you can come up with another shit-test?

Why do you fags get baited every day by this larping faggot? To the faggot larping as a woman - you will never be one, no matter how often you dilate that abominable wound you call your nu-vagina.

>>140021993
If my dad worked for a bank that supported the Nazis that would make me like him even more you fucking idiot. Hitler fought against the Jews and usury. He fought for the white race.

Do you even understand where you are?

This thread is just retarded because no one is going to stop you from being a career whore.

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>>140022172
You're nothing but a holster for nigger penis

>>140022041
Nah. I'm not waiting for the next generation to have my fun. I know my generation is all pissed at women having freedom but I don't have time to wait. My life is not being ruined on my watch pal.

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>>140021741
Your bait is getting better, but the argument is still retarded. Why would anyone else care about your circumstances? No one giving a shit about you is everyday life for every man.

>>140022197
If I did make things better you would go reeeeeeee woman is taking a MALE JOB she is destroying civilization REEEEE

>>140022356
Too bad you're too irrelevant to do anything about it. Whatever has to happen will happen with or without you.

See you on the next post where you'll LARP about a black man upset about racist `white males.

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>>140018199
You should side with us because those economic benefits millennial women enjoy are unsustainable. Either we land this plane with the wheels out or it lands nose-first into the ground.

If we do this properly we could have a healthy economy again within a few years. If we do it poorly we could expect a global depression that will probably last decades.

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Surfs up dudes

>>140021993
wow, so it's just daddy issues, i'm really shocked and surprised!

>>140022287
Only Hitler murdered millions of innocent people in the name of "society".

Whatever, your dad's probably doing lines of coke right now LMAO

>>140020694
>I'm gunna laugh at women who are happy, raising children while I'll be doing a useless job that no one respects me for but will act like they do so they can pump and dump me

>>140022637

I don't want to marry a sexist Millennial man who wants to control me though. I also want to go ahead and go far in my career. Why should only females make the economic sacrifices? Because if anti discrimination laws are gone it's females who are gonna suffer not males. If the economy is bad for my advancement as a female it's not a good economy to me.

>>140022670
My dad is eating cheese right now and playing chess with my brother

>>140022746
I don't want the job for respect. I want the job for the freedom and the money I can get so I can travel and have fun and live adventurous. Plus it will be VERY fun to piss off the sexist men who think women shouldn't do it. Pissing them off alone makes it all worthwhile.

>Waaaaah I deserve to have lots of money like successful men

there's the fucking thing you selfish piece of shit. just like all stronk independent womyn all you do is look at SUCCESSFUL men and say "I DESERVE THAT TOO REEEEE"

What you cunts always fail to acknowledge is that for every successful business man wallowing in cash, there's downtrodden poor men who spend 50+ years of their lives doing hard labour, physical graft, and bottom-of-the-barrel shit just to keep themselves and their families alive, before retiring with a pained, broken body for a few years before dying of a heart attack at 70 (while women get to linger on another 10+ years)

Which coincidentally, is something women barely ever have to do and certainly do not expect to have to do (because 'equality' is only for the good parts).

Being a man is to have your entire life be a gamble. Sure you could be successful and rich and have everything you ever dreamed of, but equally you could become a fucking nothing with nothing, working in filth, breaking your body to sustain the very fabrics of our modern civilisation (thinks like construction, maintenance, transportation, ie things practically no women do (real fucking useful that you are)).
That's assuming you even live that far, seeing as men are far more likely to be killed, commit suicide, and just die in general than women.

All women have bitched and moaned about is how THEY want the chance to be successful too. Meanwhile they still want all the protections and benefits that stopped them from becoming failed, miserable, poor and/or dead like so many men.

Fuck you.

>>140023059
Sure....sure.

>>140018199
You are going to die alone and unloved.

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>>140022864
KIKE PROPAGANDA IN FULL EFFECT

>>140022981
You don't get my coke reference? That's what the men on wall street used to do all the time. It's in a lot of movies.

>>140022864
make your own bed then. men did that, why do feminists have to cry and whine to white men to hand out shit to them? oh right, because you're weak and all you can do in life is cry on the internet.

>>140022864
If you believe women need anti-discrimination laws and preferential hiring in order to compete with men then you acknowledge that women as a demographic average are incapable of competition with males as a demographic average.

The company that fails to make most efficient use of available resources will be overtaken by a more efficient business.

>>140021741
It will get better for you if you get married, faggot.

Stop replying to this bait...sage.

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>>140023192
Im glad you believe anti-wallstreet propaganda. But my Dad is a pillar of our local church and thinks weed is for niggers like you.

Bernie fags should be gassed for not understanding how the economy works.

>>140023086
LOL you want to take away my rights as a female and think I'm suddenly going to feel guilty?

Get out of here. You want to take away all my chances of advancement. You want women to have NO AUTONOMY over their lives. You want talented women to simply waste away because of the poor menz.

>Men of Pol, how can I be more of a parasite?

>>140023267
If the government and central banks continue to prop up business practices that should fail then all they are doing is delaying the inevitable correction.

It will only be harder for you when it all fails.

Saged and slid.

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>>140023465
>raising children is a waste and has no value

>>140018199
By paying you to suck dick

>>140023267
It's not because women are less talented it's because males are discriminatory against women. Even if a woman was talented all of you idiots would refuse to hire her because of MUH CIVILIZATION

>>140023465
Stop blaming men for your failings as a person.

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>>140023656
Modern women are hired over men all the time to fill diversity quotas. Then they complain when men don't have high paying jobs to support them

Women are

1. Retarded
2. Self destructive

This is why you were never able to vote until recently

>>140023581
I never said raising children is a waste. But having no income or autonomy in the long run is. The man can always decide your spending is frivolous or decide to keep you from buying or having what you want. The man can also trap you in an abusive relationship or be controlling towards you.

>>140023656
Everything you have said in this thread, the one last night as well, has been nothing but hypocrisy and the ramblings of neurotic self hatred.

Two routes. Continue being a insufferable cunt who makes no sense, alone.
Or, shut the fuck up, go be part of society like everyone else and find some nice guy to fuck for the rest of your life.

And remember that you will do either one, because a man told you too.
God knows that any advice from a gf is part of the problem of modern feminist culture.

>>140023594
Nope. NOT A CHANCE.

>>140022483
Making assumptions and thinking they know the opposition's true intentions even though it is clear they cannot. Epitome of female argumentation, gentlemen.

>>140023796
>in the long run

In the long run you are married and your loving husband busts his ass to give you everything, love you and provide for your kids.

You are running with the assumption that the marriage will fail and your husband is going to beat you or some bullshit

PROTIP If you are picking up a guy at a club he is probably a subhuman. Go to a church and find a nice guy you fucking idiot. There are good guys in the world who want to love you and marry you and give you everything you want

Yes he might say no to some stupid bullshit you might want to buy. But whats more important? Buying useless shit or creating a loving family

Families are THE foundation of society. Without good families a society will collapse

Don't be afraid of finding a good man

reddit.com/u/questioningwoman

THIS IS WHO OP IS.

Fuck off you autistic bitch.

>>140023656
I've already explained this. Inefficient business practices are alway overtaken by more efficient ones in a free market. It's not that men are sexist. Nature is the sexist one for making adult woman as a demographic average a lot smaller, a lot weaker and 2-3 iq points less intelligent in addition to a narrower bell curve of intelligence in general.
Some women can compete with men. And affirmative action makes it much harder to find them.

Again. Saged.

>>140024164
If he says no I no longer have autonomy. It's about AUTONOMY more than anything. Having the ability to choose to do whatever I want and whatever I feel.

>>140023465
cunts like you are lucky we keep you are for sex and food (marriage). stay the fuck in the house, clean it, make food, suck dick and fuck when the MAN is home from working. do your fucking job you useless cunt. something my fucking landwhale of a wife doesnt understand or refuses to acknowledge her place. soon ill dump that cunt and finally be with my gf who is MUCH BETTER wife material

>>140023059
>"live licentiously"
fixed that for you

>>140024335
Ah. I think I've found the problem.
You are a person who believes needing to eat to survive is oppressive yes/no?

>>140024482
and this is supposed to make me side with you? Puhleeze.

>>140022864
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but HuffPo isn't a career.

>>140019487
>i don't have a husband
Roastie confirmed. Either way, tits or GTFO dumb roastie

>>140024335
No one really has autonomy. In a family you have to sacrifice what you want for your family, for your kids.

You are being selfish and assuming your husband either hates you or will beat you. All of which can be fixed by YOU choosing a good mate. Which can be found by dating a good wholesome person. You might even have to date an evil white Christian to find this match. Shocking.

So yes you could have perfect autonomy...you could be ALONE. But honestly do you want to be alone when you are 60 when you could have a nice old husband and grandkids to visit

Getting in a relationship or getting married is about sacrifice. You will never have everything you want, you are just chasing a unicorn

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>>140018199

Go back to the kitchen you filthy corporate sluthole

>>140023465
LOL you want to take my rights as a male to have my work objectively judged and think I'm suddenly going to feel guilty?
Get out of here. You want to take away all chances of society's advancements. You want men to have NO AUTONOMY over their lives. You want talented men to simply waste away because of the poor womenz.

>>140024724
When I'm 60 my dream is to travel the world.

>>140024587
Please answer >>140024571

>>140024952
You are no different than a basement dwelling man child.

Totally selfish.

You are unfit for marriage and it would be better at this stage in your life for you to not have kids because you would ruin them.

There is nothing to say that you and your husband couldn't travel the world.

Ill stop posting now but let me say this last thing. You are staring down the barrel of an apartment full of cats with a barren womb and a life of regrets for not having children. Because when you finally wake up and want to have kids it will be

1. too late
2. all the good men will be off the table because you will be old and ugly with a used up vagina

Good luck, hopefully you can rid your brain of the jewish brainwashing.

>>140024952
Are you u/questioningwoman from reddit as the other guy said? I believe i can properly answer many of your questions.

>>140025243
I don't have an issue with marriage. I have an issue with marriage where the man is automatically in charge of everything.

>>140025552
Hey questioningwoman, why are you here? You complain on reddit all the time about how millennial men aren't chivalrous, how we don't want to get married anymore, then you come on /pol/ and shit up the board.
Millennial men are the way they are because nobody wants to be a "real man" for a slut. Now go away.

>>140025552
The only reason he is "automatically" in charge is because in a realistic scenario you actually need him more than he needs you. Naturally authority flows from this. A baby/ child is subservient to the mother unless the government offers to take your breast milk by force and distribute it out to the baby.

Now the baby is dependent on the government because he gets milk regardless of the mother's wishes.

>>140024218
How did you know?

>>140025552
Why don't you just transition, desu?

>>140025932
I don't believe in natural authority. It's socially constructed. Historically if the mother didn't breastfeed the kid died so he needed her to feed it or else he'd have no progeny. If you're saying the male jobs are automatically more important why do you blame feminists for wanting those supposedly male jobs? It's good to work at home or part time when the child is young. But when they're older there's less of a point. I mean you do want to spend lots of time when they're in the baby and small kid phase. But when they're older and in school all day there's less of a point.

>>140026227
Because I believe gender roles are socially constructed.

>>140026351
Your argumentation makes no sense. You make logical leaps and bounds.
>If you're saying the male jobs are automatically more important why do you blame feminists for wanting those supposedly male jobs?
That is exactly why we're getting mad at feminists for wanting those jobs. Women can't do them as well, and will cause production to grind to a halt.

women only think in the short term
By giving you jobs which you are clearly inferior at, you are gradually slowing technological progress and eventually bringing the world into chaos.
The victims of this future chaos will be the weak, which is mostly made up of women.
The right is trying to save women from themselves.
By the time they realise their mistake it will be too late and the glorious future will be forever gone.

>>140026351
Social constructions are natural authority. Humans are natural, and by extension so are the abstractions produced. We understand the world around us by observing and interpreting. It is human nature.

>>140026514
Do you think women are strong enough to be frontline soldiers?

>>140026628
But even when a woman does well at a male dominated position you get pissed. It all seems to stem for the need for men to control women.

>>140026195
I've talked with her before on reddit. We talked about /pol/, she's been here before and she shits up the board every time she does it. She sees this place as proof that men want to take her rights away but she thinks we are being secretive about it.

>>140026641
Technology moved more rapidly in the 20th century and early 21st century than any other time. This is the same time women got far more rights.

>>140026351
Natural authority is a product of needing to eat in order to survive. It is about as socially constructed as ice needing a certain temperature to melt is.

I'm not claiming that "male jobs" are mpre important than "female jobs" because those ideas are social constructs. Male or female dominated jobs arise either out of government intervention (inefficient and artificial) or because the demographic average man or woman is better suited for certain types of work.

Women are 99.9+% of mothers, simply because of biological differences between the average man (benis and no womb) and the average woman (bagina and womb)

There are interesting studies that show that children who spend large periods of time in daycare have similar problems to children who experience maternal abandonment.

>>140018199
i would help bymaking it illegal for women to hold a job after the age of 20 unless she is pregnant or has been pregnant

if you want to be a part of the society that our fathers built, then do your fucking part instead of taking advantage of civilization and ostracizing men for giving you a world where you don't have to worry about bands of maurading barbarians killing your husbands and children and keeping you as war trophies

after motherhood sets your head straight and you actually learn what is at stake for humanity, then you can join the workforce and make your own income because then i trust you to not spend all of your money treating civilization like your degenerate playground


otherwise fuck off, i'm moving to east asia and you can have the niggers and shitskins thjat (((they))) have been begging for

>>140027001
Wew lad. /pol/ doesn't want her rights taken away. They want natural and non-coercive environments that would look like we are taking her rights away only because women live on top of a glass mountain payed for by male tax dollars.
(Women pay a cumulative negative amount of taxes at every stage in their life except 40-50)

>>140027091
You don't need to act in accordance to your gender role in order to survive though. You don't have to be submissive just because you're female. Any consequences from that are from other people not from your body breaking down. In other words, other people would cause the problem not anything intrinsic in the self.

>>140019487
>I don't have a husband.
absolutely degenerate, but i wouldn't expect a "strong independent woman" to understand why having a husband and children is so very much more crucial to your fulfillment than trying to prove that you can contribute to the economy


i know women who bought the lie you've been told and they are all in their 30s without kids, they have given up on having a normal and fulfilling life and have become psychotic feminist cunts that continue to feed young women and girls to this perpetual motherhood-shaming culture because if they ever came clean and condemned it, then the catladies at their post-30s survivors group will vilifiy them and they'll be totally and completely alone with no one to share their eternal box of wine and Thought Catalog thinkpieces with

>>140027397
I don't think women should have the right to vote. As it stands right now they have it so much easier than men in the west yet absolutely everyone still insists they are oppressed victims for the stupidest things.
Democracy is a farce, and feminists and /pol/ and reddit and tumblr and everyone forget that men have suffered far more than women in history. There's no point trying to barter with feminists, to reach out and try dialogue. It doesn't work. They'll never respect you unless you're some cool alpha dudebro.
Everything she's complaining about is just based on her victim mentality that western society has pounded into her brain. She's so spoiled she can't see how easy she has it.

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>>140027033
Yeah that's mostly built on 18th and 19th century technology like trains, iron ships, the internal combustion engine, chemistry, electricity, indoor plumbing and mining.

These were entirely male inventions and most inventions of the 20th and 21st centuries were male. The few female ones were done with much direct and indirect male help.

Without the critical earlier inventions, most people would still be shitting in bucket by candlelight.

>>140027470
Well in this case, somebody who makes smarter choices will eventually overtake the idiot who oppresses women for the sake of it.

Either that or oppressing women is the smartest choice. Which seems unlikely because i know of some brilliant female economists and oppressing them would harm the potential of that field.

>>140027676
>Thought Catalog
That is a disgusting, evil, god-forsaken, degenerate pit of a website. It's as if Satan's demons himself spawned that website out of a portal of hell.

>>140027773
Democracy isn't a farce. It's dysgenics and it's working like it usually does.

Lets see if we can't rationalise reality for her. This might be extremely beneficial to her in the long run.

>>140027200
Do you realize this will trap many women in marriages they can never escape? Many men will also use the fertility of the woman against her in the workplace and be more likely to fire her because she has children. If you want more kids, double the tax breaks per child. Then people will have more of a financial incentive.

>>140022266
>Why do you fags get baited every day by this larping faggot? To the faggot larping as a woman - you will never be one, no matter how often you dilate that abominable wound you call your nu-vagina.


even if it is a larp, and it probably is, it is important for men and women to have these conversations in an honest and non-judgmental space. if you actually drop gender redpills in public you will lose your job, your friends, you will be treated like a social leper because maybe 1/100 people feel strongly enough about critical theory to use every neuron of their borderline personality disorder to convince the rest of the world that unless you believe women can and should fill every role that men do, you are a problem.

>>140028112
I think the redpill about how people who weren't even able to vote at the time have had a $200 trillion bill pushed on them by their grandparents might be a big awakening to the absolute shitshow thats going to engulf America during the next recession.

>>140028112
>Lets choose between one disappointment over the other
No thanks, m8.
And don't you see where your ideas lead here? Women never deserved to be in the same league as men, yet in the west they have it easier than men now. For most of human history women were second class to men, only recently has that changed and been completely reversed.
/pol/ talks about "BEING TRADITIONAL" yet they don't really know what that means. Your approach here, if we reset everything, would lead us back to this same position eventually.

>>140027470
Listen, if you really want to be a progressive woman please do this: question your parents, question your teachers, question everything that the system has indoctrinated you with. If you dont, then you are just another dumb fucking cunt who was handed everything you have ever gotten. Every man you work with can see through this. They know the women who earned through skill and which ones came a long for the ride.

>>140027863
If more females were allowed to be in the sciences I'm sure there would be far more female inventions. Many women also used the names of their husbands or other males in the family for their own inventions. We can have the contributions of both. There's no limit to the amount of scientists we can have.

Dont even bother responding to this self serving bitch. Not the first time she's come here.

Sage

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Marriage is a holy sacrament that cannot be broken by earthly ties.

If you are so worried about getting "trapped" in a bad marriage you suck at dating or picking good partners. Probably because you are a degenerate retard and your instincts are terrible

Sort yourself out

>>140018199

Sort yourself out, then get married.

>>140028229
Why are corporations that can only survive if you choose to pay them bad, while the government that will take your money regardless of consent is good?

You seem to be suggesting that sexism is hardwired into men so that we will prefer other men. Men aren't the reason women have wombs and are thus riskier employees. That's evolution's fault.

Is science sexist?

>>140018199
"feminista"

SAGE

>>140028397
>allowed to be
If this isnt a larp, OP must be a 16year old girl, or a dillusional 50 year old hippy. Anyone who has been to college in the last 30 years knows this meme doesnt work anymore. Also sage

>Again, how does that benefit me and not just males?
If it benefits men, it benefits you. You're supposed to be with a man, anything that benefits him will benefit you too.
Woman up and find a husband.

>>140028354
You seem to be suggesting that a society that truly values objective reality over all else will somehow revert back into an ati-male hell?

Do you believe men need force of law in order to be superior? Are you that uncertain that men are naturally better in most fields?

>>140018199
anti-discrimination laws are discriminatory

>>140028685
Is objective mathematics sexist ?

>>140028856
I'm speaking of direct benefit. Direct benefit I have personal control over.

>>140028851
Historically women weren't allowed in most of the universities. This is a historical fact regardless of how angry you are at women's rights.

>>140029210
>women
>having control
That's a bad idea.

>>140029294
I don't understand the women here. How would it personally benefit them to have no control over their lives? It just doesn't make sense.

>>140029374
In a business/political sense, women shouldn't have control, as very very few women have done genuinely well in proportion to the population in either field. 2 wonderful examples is Yahoo! and Angela Merkel's Germany. In Germany, rape is becoming more common, same w/ violent crime at the hands of violent migrants, its so bad they cover it up. Also In France too men cannot do paternity tests without getting a year in prison. Talk about sexist, right?

>>140028892
>You seem to be suggesting that a society that truly values objective reality over all else will somehow revert back into an ati-male hell?
The west does not value objective reality. Hence the idea that women are equal to men, the LGBTQTUJKEFRWE stuff, trannies, race mixing, on and on.
>Do you believe men need force of law in order to be superior? Are you that uncertain that men are naturally better in most fields?
Men for most of human history were the dominant ones, giving women rights was not really considered. You're trying to use the "haha men are superior anyway" argument, I see what you're doing, but that's exactly why men should rule society and women shouldn't have access to all the rights and privileges men have. They never earned it. Humanity has mostly operated this way for it's existence.

>>140029287
So? We aren't arguing that women MUST not go to university. We are arguing in a natural environment free of artificial institutional interference that men would make up the majority of college students.

This is because college is about as capable of increasing your intelligence as putting a short person in the nba will make him tall. He can get better at basketball for sure, but so can an untrained tall person. Ultimately the gap stats the same.

Men have a wider bell curve of intelligence than women. So they are naturally more represented at the top and bottom of the hierarchy.

>>140029727
Never claimed the west values objective reality. Clearly we dont.

>>140018199
Unbelievable cunt. How about we let you live?

>>140018199
It doesn't, darling.

In a couple of decades the only things we need you for---sex and reproduction---will be automated. Then the men you leeched off will be only too happy to give you and your sisters a free train ride and shower before tossing your ashes into Darwin's dustbin.

Men are ready to conquer the galaxy. You can keep the earth---as a mass grave for you, your sisters and your nigger bulls.

>>140028229
i've been around long enough to see women escape far worse. what is more likely to happen is that more women will take dating more seriously and stop looking at their 20s as a time to "experience things". i know women who lived that way. i do not know a single woman who lived that way, got married, had kids, and stayed married. they had kids, decided "hey i lived this much of my life without a committed relationship, why don't i try that again?" and then it's custody battles, "dating" when childrearing is off the table (which means dudes using them for sex and then ditching them for potential mothers), and complete emotional isolation

the closer you get to 30, the less opportunity you have to grow with someone else. experience is not good for romance. it ruins your ability to trust other people. having "experiences" and "adventures" is something you can and should absolutely do with a committed partner, it is absolutely not something you should do to fill the emotional and psychological void that comes naturally from a lack of childbirth.

my daughter will understand that the most important thing she can do in her life is create life. my son will understand that the most important thing he can do is nurture life. they will understand that parental love is unconditional, but that they are not the center of the universe, the kids they have some day are, and that will hopefully keep them safe when they have to make their own decisions.

>>140018199
In the US people get paid by the hour regardless of sex. So you make less, youre probably not working hard enough.

/bread
https://youtu.be/yAWfK5LEGIg

>>140029703
If I buy a business or start one I have a right to run it. I buy it? Then it's mine regardless of what society says.

>>140018199
better?? and here I thought women wanted equality oh my bad that's egalitarianism.
>imblying all the shit that just spewed outta yer head is what will actually happen no sweetie we're all royally fucked in this economy

>>140030257
Lmao that was a funny one.
Really highlights how women just take male tax dollars for granted.

>>140020529

what field. I is engineer. I build shit and get paid more than most women who are not engineers. The womenses that are engineers aren't in the field as much as the men (kids and shit). That is why they don't get promoted as quickly.

there is your redpill

>>140029910
pretty much this

>>140018199
Get a husband, degenerate bitch. Women aren't individuals, it has nothing to do with YOU.

>>140021630
underrated post

>>140030374
If you buy it and succeed congrats you are a minority among women. Usually however you will fail statistically speaking. I like how you evaded my point about Germany or sexism in France towards men

>>140029799
>>140030459
No offense, but you sound like a MGTOW or MRA tier thinker. Pretty much everything they say is right, it's just that humans will always value women over men. Men of the past knew how things work and took steps to block it. We relinquished those things and look where we are now.
People are viscerally offended if you truly treat women equally. Equality, egalitarianism, it's all a lie. Men have an out group bias and women have an in group bias, so that's why "muh poor oppressed women" narrative never goes away. When men weakened, everything weakened.

>>140030582
It might have nothing to do with me personally but it will still affect me in personal ways. Thus it is personal.

>>140021613
how many times on pol did we hear women arguing this:
>muh financial autonomy.
>gotta work till mid 30's to achieve this
>WHY DON'T MEN WANT ME ANYMORE.

Yeah, we all know how women love money around here. enjoy your 7 cats.

>>140030374
Absolutely true. If paying for something equals owning it, then men have a right to influence abortion laws. Because on average they are the only demographic that pays a positive amount of tax dollars.

In addition, any attempt to terminate a potentially fertilized egg could be considered attempted murder at minimum. Because you deliberately have taken actions to end a potential human life in much the same way putting a death trap triggered by your doorbell is attempted murder. You don't get the right to end an unknown person's life because they might annoy you if they press the doorbell at 2 in the morning.

>>140018199
a career in what, "talent acquisition" or HR? fuck off. nothing ever truly stopped women from succeeding in a capitalistic society, but we've only tipped the favor towards women getting technical and creative jobs which leaves less men with a job that he should have to provide for a family.

you cant fucking have the best of both worlds you fucking cunt. you can't have the chad with an extremely high paying job, your own career and a family. it does not fucking work like that.

>>140030750
Yeah i know :(
Women have far more intrinsic asset value then men do. It's why i choose mgtow as more of a temporary boycotting action rather than a permanent lifestyle.

>>140030887
Does this apply to raped women? Does a rapist have rights to the offspring?

>>140030995
going off what i said: if two people have highly successful careers, who is supposed to look after the children??????? a fucking immigrant maid? god i hate modern women. you make me so fucking angry. you just want to have the entire cake for yourself and fuck everyone else. if anything, white women have the most privilege in the world than anyone else.

>>140023656
Why would that make any logical sense? A company that hires only men and rejects competent women would be overtaken by companies that take the best person for the job. The only way that would work if every company on Earth agreed. Then lies the question of why women can't just make their own companies to compete with these corporations.

>>140030374

YOu talk alot about business and working rights.

WTF do you actually do. Do you have a fucking science degree??? if you do you will make money. Thats how the shit works now.

If you aren't a doctor or engineer you are a whiny larper.

>>140031150
there have been many experiments of choosing candidates "anonymously" for jobs and/or academic talks (see github). whenever this happens, an overwhelmingly majotiy of white males and asian males take all the spots.

>>140031111
Now we get to the interesting questions. A rapist violated a woman's right to a voluntary sexual action. So the exchange was coercive in nature.

In most rape scenarios it can be argued that the woman is actually morally obliged to seek abortion. If only to mitigate the damages from a coercive exchange. Certainly it is her right to do so.

>>140030374
if you can't make the decisions necessary for having a child, why would anyone trust you with a business? you must realize that if you have a business and are 20-something, man or woman, you are going to be viewed skeptically by anyone looking for whatever it is.

also realize that most business owners, partners, etc, have children and families and people trust them specifically because of that. it means that they are the kind of people who go to work so that they can go home and kiss their children goodnight. familyhood is a bonding characteristic that earns you automatic trust

if you're a woman who doesn't have children or doesn't want children, then you will be viewed as a liability because most women do end up having kids. the older you get, the more people (both men and women) will look at you and say "hmmm, any day now she's going to be on mat leave" or "what is wrong with this woman? doesn't she realize what she's throwing away?"

you're looking at business as some kind of male-dominated hierarchy that you can just learn and will yourself into, but it's got nothing to do with sex, it has to do with milestones. a reasonable, mature man will view a woman as a liability in the context of a business. those same men will view a mother with admiration in the context of a business. it is apples and oranges. it is also something not taught in any Womens Studies course because according to feminism, only women know why half of CEOs aren't women, and men are constantly conspiring to sleep with women because that's supposed to be what every man thinks about when he's busy working on something important (if you want to see a culture where this is actually the case, look no further than inner city blacks)

>>140031146
People can work at home these days. It's called technology even when there is a baby around. Also children aren't small forever. They go to school. It gives the child more funding for education and more stability.

>>140031321
Whenever they include only random names in these tests, female names have an advantage over male ones suggesting biased hiring practices that discriminate against men under feminist theory (institutional oppression)

>>140031461

are you a whiny femnazi who is screaming "give me money" ..when you don't actually have any skills of worth???

what do you do, that you bitch so much about "muh pay isn't like penis pay" ???

>>140026514
AHAHAHAHAHA
>>>/t/umblr
>still no tits
Gtfo dumb roastie. Saged.

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>>140020529
>It's not failing. I'm going into a high paying field while you angry sexist men are in minimum wage jobs. If people negotiated more for their wages they'd be paid higher.
and the only reason you got that job is because your a women and they have to meet certain quotas, you stole a job from a male who quite possibly has better work ethic and need the job more.

>>140028260
But you see, the intelligent ones have figured out that little girls are different from little boys when they were 5. They already know that men and women are different and that equality doesn't exist in nature. The crerins who think men and women are equal and a woman can do everything a man can and vice versa are too far gone. No matter how many redpills you drop - you are not going to make them smarter. They are a lost cause, irredeemable. And this faggot OP larps here every night. Arguing with this tranny gargoyle is pointless and a waste time of time.

>>140032020

still hasn't said what job is. I say she is a coffee monger.

>>140031461
Assuming all women would work from home, or have children when they're building a career that they'll regret 15 years down the road once they've hit the wall and can't find a man that matches their ridiculous standards because they're too stupid to realize that men don't value women for their socio-economic status, and they're already too old to be appealing to anybody who remotely approaches their ridiculous standards and end uo hanging themselves at 40 or bacome a screeching misandrist harpy who poisons the minds if young women out of her own spite and bitterness.

>>140022670
but Hitler didn't murder millions of people....

>>140031461
This. Even before the Prussian model of state propogandising children was first popularized people still went to school and there was in fact a higher overall high literacy rate.

Computer technology could allow a female programmer or accountant to simultaneously work from home while also caring for her child. This would probably lower her efficiency slightly, but it's certainly doable and is an example I often use about how technology creates increased efficiency and potential options.

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>>140022670
>Only Hitler murdered millions of innocent people in the name of "society".

(((JEW)))

Tits or GTFO

>>140018199
>If you fix the economy

Woah, slow down there, Sally. First, you have to recognize whats wrong with it and come up with a plan for fixing it.

You can argue what-ifs all day, but you're fucking retarded if your trying to argue about what comes after the real problems get sorted.

>>140032469

assumes the female went to engineering school to become a programmer.

Go to your nearest college and ask where the engineering classes are held. Go to one, peer inside, and count the females present. (asian bitches don't count)

>>140032469
>women
>coding or doing math

>>140032320
This guy knows what's up

>>140032686
Bugger off leaf we already know its a girl from the reddit account (u/questioningwoman) take a look at the post history and tell me it's not either a woman or a very dedicated troll.

>>140032793
toppest kek

>>140032859
"Tits or gtfo" isn't for the sole intention confirming anon's sex, summerfag

>>140018199
Tits or GTFO!

>>140032793
A saw a woman counting her fingernails the other day, does that count? >>140032840

>>140018199
Fuck the economy. I plan on spectating and wiring for the Chinese to take it over.

>>140018199
>women wanting gibs and not wanting to work for anything
typical

>>140033055
You know the traffic doesn't actually go up much in summer right?
Given her post history we probably don't want to see her tits anyway.

>>140031061
The only solution to this is to take away their right to vote, since you can't change biology but you can change phony western constructs.
I legitimately don't see what good voting does anyway, but I know many others disagree.

>>140033291
when john lennon wrote that "women are the niggers of the world" he wasn't lamenting that fact, he was warning the rest of us and everyone just figured he was on a lot of heroin

>>140033347
>implying anybody actually wants to see her tits
You obviously don't undertstand the intent behind the meme.
You have to go back.

>>140033625
The intent is to inform her that her being female grants her no social advantages in a rational anonymous debate.

If she shows her tits then she acknowledges that women have an advantage simply through sexual currency and that she just prostituted herself in an attempt to win an argument.

I do know. I'm just warning you that we probably don't want this one trying.

>>140018199
Anytime I see one of these threads, I just remember that in both of my jobs my manager was a woman, and in both cases both admitted that they prefer to hire men because men actually work, while women tend to fuck around and waste time on the job. It's life experience like that that lets me know that you have no idea about what you are talking about and that everyone who sees this thread should slide it on down and out.

>>140034030
Self hating women also exist. They also need to be stopped because these same women are the ones who bully other females.

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>>140034241
Both shouldn't be in the workplace because they are a waste of resources. At least one is helping indirectly to solve the problem of reduntant women in the workplace.

>>140034463
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>>140034241
What do you think of charts like this from daying sites. It seems to be a recurring trend regardless of the sample size that suggests women rate 80% of men as "below average", while men rate roughly even numbers of women as below or above average with somewhat of a skew towards above average.

Does it suggest that women (demographic average) hold unrealistic standards when it comes to judging male attractiveness? Especially given that this is observed across all dating sites and sample sizes.

>>140034241
>A feminist complaining about people being bullies
The only reason you're playing the victim card in your replies (besides you playing the victim card in general) is because you're outnumbered here and nobody is going to take your shit. Feminists are the most vile, cruel "people" I've encountered online in all my years of using the internet. Kill yourself, bitch.

Why is this girl so obsessed over "control"? Is freedom more important to you than purpose? Would you rather live a life of hedonism than a life of contribution? Are you afraid to trust others because your daddy hurt you as a child? Are you really prepared for the responsibilities of total autonomy?

>>140035332
Post bob and vegene first tho

>>140035616
There is no purpose without freedom. Without freedom you are nothing more than a slave.

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>>140018199

>>140035987
I don't want questioningwoman to post anything relating to her body here. I get the feeling seeing something like that would scar me for life.

Let you stay at home and rear children

>>140035616
If you make your own decisions and fail you can fix it. If someone else continually makes decisions and things go wrong, you can't do a thing about it. and you're completely helpless. You don't trust women not to divorce you but you expect women to trust men to rule their entire lives.

>>140026893
Not true. This nebulous "you" that occurs comes from your own prejudices and messed up internal worldview. And in any case, I rarely see a woman do a legitimately good job at a job that men should be doing. It's called the bell-curve; likelihood is not absolute, but I think it's still safe to keep women from those areas. Anywhere this seal is broken, corruption, mediocrity, and stupidity abounds.

>>140018199
Shitty thread.
Not worth it.
>arguing with a roastie
>having a good time
pick one
there are more important threads up

>200 posts
why even bother

>>140036809
If you were an intelligent female who could do well, how would you feel if you were held back? Would you simply accept it because of what you consider "logic" or would you be angry that others are blocking you? Is it fair to potentially put such a woman in lifelong poverty or a life where she fails to live up to her potential simply because she has a vagina?

>>140036438
Me too anon. Would probably look like Clementine Ford.

>>140018199
Explain? How do we want to block you?

>>140021993
OK going by death toll, what's worse? Fascism or socialism? If you are an honest non deluded person this should be an easy answer.

>>140037188
I think we're done for today. We seem to have already answered all of the points you bring up.
At least one fully rational, non troll answer exists in this thread for every question you've asked. Now you appear to be attacking shitposters to affirm your ideology rather than adapting to the new information. Most people do this so it's nothing to be ashamed of.

>>140037282
Because many people feel very strongly against women in specific career positions. It's not a stretch that they'd use those feelings to block women.

>>140036111
If you are so free as you call it, what is your purpose?
>>140036740
Marriage is a contract between a man and a woman, not slavery. Both the man and the woman have duties and responsibilities. If you do not wish to bare the responsibilities, that is your desire. Do you want children one day?

>>140037188
Yes. Think of society. Typical female response
>my feelings are more important than the wellbeing of everyone else
And it isn't because 'vagina', roastie. If you'd been paying attention (which I greatly expect is difficult for your minuscule female brain) I said that women clearly are not good for certain jobs. Scientific evidence points to fundamental differences between the male and female brain. It is also clear, based off the moral degeneracy of companies like Google after being held in the hands of women and the continuing degrade of society after women are given power, that these differences makes one superior than the other. If you had any common sense (which, again, I have demonstrated an impossibility) you would think of the societal and moral importance to women leaving the workforce and political arena.

>>140037554
Socialism by far and away. Conservative estimate of 90 million lives lost. Most of starvation.

>>140037737
My own well being is important as an individual. If my life is made far worse because of what you call "logic" there is no logic in accepting that sense of morality. It's illogical to accept a sense of morality that creates your own personal detriment. I exist as a human being not as a human sacrifice to the altar of society.

>>140037720
Well find someone who isnt an idiot and prove you are valuable through your results. Asking the government to force people to do things smacks of insecurity in one's own abilities and this goes for everyone in this thread who thinks wen should be actively prevented from roles. The free market will naturally reward men more because they can do more work at a higher quality in most fields.

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>>140018199
What are you attacking? You say people are gonna fix things and then it's going to ruin you without making an argument about how people are going to fix things.

>>140037965
Then you are an immoral abomination, and no one has an obligation to help you.

>>140037720
>Because many people feel very strongly against women in specific career positions. It's not a stretch that they'd use those feelings to block women.
you are literally mentally ill. you are fabricating all of these scary scenarios in your mind. companies want to hire the best for as cheaply a possible. companies love qualified women. no one is going to block you because companies run the world. businesses are bitching and paying lobbyists to stop bans on illegal immigration and slowing down growth of foreign work visas because it hurts their bottom lines. whatever it is you imagine men want to do to fuck you over, understand it will be difficult as fuck because business profits and wall street rule everything or at least try hard to. stop being hysterical and provide specifics that can be addressed.

>>140037965
>it's illogical to accept a sense of morality that created your own personal detriment
So you admit you hold no concept of sacrifice? Do you not realize that society supports you? And that if you are to rely on it you must respect its wishes

>>140037965
This is true. But freedom isn't a right. You need to work in order to preserve it. Just like we must work to preserve the environment or else our genetic legacy may struggle.

Traditional values were functional but based on artificial reasoning (god says so kind of stuff) so when we decided god didn't exisy, we also decided that the patterns which maintained a successful culture for thousands of years must also be wrong.

Cultures work like an organism that spreads by allowing it's constituents to have many children and raise them well in the same culture.
Our progressive culture will be eradicated because vile cultures are havinf 7-8 children per woman while we only have 1-2. So the cultures that oppress women will eventually overtake and replace your ideology.

Under my administration you'll have all the proscribed jew property you can carry.

>>140018199
If you were alive when only men had to work to support a whole family youd be able to do what you wanted all day. All youd have to do is raise kids and other than that youd not have to work in your life

>>140020529
>WOMEN'S wages went up.
all i see the feminazis doing is complaining their wages didnt go up

stop LARPing

>>140037965
>My own well being is important as an individual. If my life is made far worse because of what you call "logic" there is no logic in accepting that sense of morality. It's illogical to accept a sense of morality that creates your own personal detriment. I exist as a human being not as a human sacrifice to the altar of society.
his point is that what you are doing is selfish and short-sighted. you are going to behoisted by your own petard. when our civilization crumbles because of feminist policies being put into place, there won't be any nice society to support your career. everything will be fucked. islamic nations and their people are laughing their asses off and waiting in anticipation to strike against a society of pansies. and women will welcome them, as they have always and are still today. feminists will beg for islamic rule over them. hilarious and also quite sad.

>>140022670
>jews
>innocent
>people

>>140038589
don't bother with her. most women would happily take a provider over independence, but eternal roastie can't find a provider and is chasing her own tail trying to be a boy

u/questioningwoman,
Fundamentally the primary issue we have is that society is unsustainable.

Promises the government has made to voters total to at least 200 trillion extra dollars that must be extracted from an already overtaxed population. Most of this is welfare and social security for retiring baby boomers.

Cutting all of the military budget might buy you another 3-4 years at most. Eventually the retirement benefits will swamp america into a global deflationary spiral that can only be solved by hyperinflation.

During either event, the purchasing power of ordinary Americans will fall through the floor and real economics will reign again. Not this idiotic keynesian delusion we pretend is capitalism.

During this depression you will be faced with several options.
1) vote to print money that will be payed by future generations who never got a say in the matter. This is a big gamble because it depends on an exponential economy which will create massive pollution.
2) re-evaluate yourself according to market conditions. Be prepared to drastically lower ypur standards of what kind of man you would settle with because the alternative is either
3) pull your socks up and compete with men in a free market or
4) starve.