Antifa and Fascism

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>>140013188
>reasoning with communists

>>140013296
Communists, in my eyes, are far closer to Nazis than capitalists or any mainstream party individuals. They have similar common ideas to us, and if we had more chance to talk things out they might even begin to agree on many things.

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>>140013470
Only good commie is a dead one

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>>140013694
Alright kike shill, time to get out. You can try all you like, but eventually Antifa and NatSocs will name the Jew together.

>>140013839
>implying I'm the kike shill
You seem to know little of history.

>>140014124
I know that communism is Jewish subversion, but the proponents of it often have good intentions that lie near those of National Socialists. If you want to keep Antifa and Communists in the dark and away from companionship then you are just as good as a stinking Jew.

Bump by the way, I would like to get some leftists in here to know what they think of this.

One more bump

>>140015698
>trying to bump your own thread

>>140016177
I SAID BEGONE KIKE

>>140013470

Capitalists will bend the knee under fascism. All you'll get after fighting the state with commies is another battle. Communists will kill liberals and other commies anyway, they did it during the Spanish Civil War and the French "Resistance" killed each other more than Nazis.

>>140016213
faggot

>>140016244
You don't think it would be possible to exchange ideas and convince some of them that fascism has many merits? I don't relish the idea, mind you, but antifa has a fighting spirit that would be fantastic for our cause. Not to mention if we could get the support of BLM...

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>>140013188
I'm okay with a truce until the (((liberals))) get purged, but you're still getting the bullet at the end /pol/. Just extending an olive branch of our own and giving you time to reexamine your class consciousness while we remove the centrists. It's only fair.

>>140013188
gtfo kike shill faggot. u deserve to be beaten to death while all female relative r raped in front of your broken and dying body
worthless kike. gtfo or face the ovens

>>140013188
Antifa and antifa sympathizers like OP will be among the first to hang on the day of the rope

>>140013188
>I propose an alliance between fascists and, ironically, anti-fascists.

Don't word it that way.

It should be Fascists + ANARCHISTS (not antifascists) allied against liberal democratic postmodernism.

>>140013470
What part of 'better dead than red' do you not understand?

>>140013188
Antifa are little more than usefully idiots whose only purpose was to shut down conservative rallies and make rightwingers afraid to go out in public

They have succeeded in this but are now getting out of hand. Antifa has outlived it's usefullness and now (((they))) are shutting them down

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>>140013188
we understood it a long time ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfysxliBF3o&t=190s

>>140016627
kill yourself you ugly autistic commie, bolshevism is a jewish invention

>>140013188
>implying antifa thinks logically

No dude, they don't care at all about their so-called "cause". They don't care about fascists, they don't care about any of that shit. They just want an excuse to party and beat the crap out of random people, that's their only purpose.

>>140013470
Finally a Nazi who realizes that his ideology is closer to Marxist Socialism than capitalism.

>>140017348
The Nazis have a red flag, they are included in it too.

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>>140017060
You've got the right idea; working together against the greater evil. Capitalism is the most Jewish economic system in the world.
>>140017666
Some of them have ideologies to back up their actions, believe it or not.

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>>140013188
Antifa are our enemies we have almost nothing in common with them

>>140018691
We have in common our hatred of capitalism and the Jews, which is enough for a temporary truce until the ultimate evil has been eliminated.

>>140018653
You sound like a commie faggot larping as a nazi

>>140018866
And you sound like a libertarian, capitalism-supporting Jew lover.

trevor noah is, like all liberals, is a bitch. he would denounce even black BLM who riot, a snitch and a bitch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2xv4fba65U&t=315s

>>140018653
lol man, forget the jew bullshit and its all good. and when blacks chimpout dont be mad, take example

>>140018962
Some individuals in the heart of BLM (namely some black nationalists) fight for a noble cause. I think that if capitalism, elites, corruption, and Jewish control were eliminated we could easily compromise and set up individual states that we want in our new land. I support the creation of a black ethnostate just as much as I support the creation of European ones.

>hates communism
>supports dictatorship of the proletariat
>says communism has never worked
>reasons with communists because of "shared values"

Looks like centrists really have to band together

>>140019275
>Some individuals in the heart of BLM (namely some black nationalists) fight for a noble cause

That's not noble if white nationalists aren't considered noble either. You can't have it both ways. BLM isn't noble, it's just another excuse niggers made up to commit crimes

>>140018866
ding-o
I think this is a practice thread to train for bigger things. Total cartoon like larp. The last antifa meeting I was at, some weeb agreed to learn about the 'enemy' so it is a common tactic. saged

>>140019649
I think white nationalists are noble, though.

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please fucking hang yourself OP

there's a lot of stupid shit on this board, but this has to be the dumbest shit i've read in ages here.

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>>140019275
commie larping confirmed.

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>>140013188
>hmm, these complete shitheads seem to just want to beat people up for fun...
>just the people we need in our movement!

that's how you know you're the bad guy too

>>140019275
nuh man, we would never get along. but the 2 state solution is under way, Berkeley and charlottesville are pretty much our turf, we do need to get rid of all those mayor and judges cucks who let you in in the first place in the name of "free speech" but you rock on wherever you are, whatever that means for you, probably linching blacks, and hating jews, couse you love cops and wont rebel agains the real people who run shit

>>140019761
Doesn't matter, it's not a noble cause

>>140013470
>Communists, in my eyes, are far closer to Nazis than capitalists or any mainstream party individuals.

Yes and no. Some of their techniques and ideologies are similar in nature, but Communism's complete lack of humanity is what keeps it from succeeding. They force unnatural ways of life upon their local populous. I'll put it to you this way, there has never been, throughout all of history, a significant amount of people that have tried to immigrate to a Communist society (or every attempt of a Communist society.)

The reason for this (as stated above) is because they deny natural ways of life:

> Nationalism
> Culture
> Religion
> Racial homogeneity

If they were to adopt this type of ideology along with a "few" NatSoc ideological traits, there'd probably be a unification between both of the groups. They more than likely won't though because of all the false propaganda they've been indoctrinated with that demonize National Socialism. Just like Yuri Bezmenov said:

>"The facts tell nothing to him, even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures. ...he will refuse to believe it.... That's the tragedy of the situation of demoralization."

If they could ever just look at this unbiased-ly, there literally would be a "Revolution" over night.

>>140020307
I agree with you entirely, although my main point is that even if we can't see exactly eye to eye we can at least unify for the time being until the primary threat is eliminated.
>>140020056
I don't know how you got lynching blacks from me saying that I support a black ethnostate but okay.

>>140020056

> Linching blacks
Topkek

> hating jews
Shlomo is our greatest ally.

> cause you love cops
Cops protect you all the time
That being said somoeone should send a message to antifa for cooperation and peace over plebbit.

>>140020631
not all blacks are separatists, so what you gonna do with those? and what about non rich jews?

>>140021052
I'm not necessarily suggesting a two-state solution; it is possible for a multi-state setup, wherein one state has a communist regime, another a natsoc regime, and the third an anarchic regime. This is where the non-separatist blacks would go. As for the Jews, you can have them. National Socialists don't want to exterminate all Jewish individuals, we just don't want them in our country, plain and simple.

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>>140020751
cop are nothing but a gang of robbers and killers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP88_mNK3-U

>>140013188
>Leftist elite support Antifa
>Realize normies aren't into it and try to pull a 180 through the popular media.

It's all so tiresome.

>>140020631
>I agree with you entirely, although my main point is that even if we can't see exactly eye to eye we can at least unify for the time being until the primary threat is eliminated.

And what exactly is the "prime threat", capitalism, Jews, individual liberty, what? How would this be "dealt" with? The only way to "deal" with this adequately would be to educate these people, but as stated within my reply previously, they are unable to do this.

>>140021316
I know this is bait, but this is widely believed bait

Civil forfeiture is a civil action meant to target narcotics traffickers. Carrying large amounts of cash without an armored truck is shady as fuck

Please end your own life. I mean it.

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>>140014366
We are perfectly aware of jewish overrepresentation among our opponents, we just don't care. Identity politics is cancer.

>let's work with the commies
sounds like a shitty fucking plan

>>140013188
You just went FULL RETARD
The (((Allies))) "allied" with the Communists in WWII, and look where that got us.

>>140021316

> ignores the peace message i suggested

Why ?

>>140021261
its all mixed by now, you honestly think people will just move away voluntarily from their homes to satisfy your xenophobia?

>>140021484
watch the video

>>140021479
The prime threat, I would argue, is capitalism. Once the globalists no longer have control over the world, it would be far easier to set up states where the people benefit as opposed to mega corporations and Zionists.

>>140013188
>tfw they waited a week after Trump demonized them just so they wouldn't have to admit Trump was right
>tfw Lemon STILL claims Trump never disowned white supremacy

Weird week for you Yanks

>>140021521
No peace with nationalists.

>>140013188
You can't reason with the unreasonable. People who treat their feelings as a substitute for having a brain.

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>>140021733
>The prime threat, I would argue, is capitalism.
>wears flag of capitalist dicksucking which saw the wages of the people drop and the wealth of 1% rise
Do you even know what "capitalism" is?

>>140021521
you assume some kind of equivalence between up, but you guys are a reaction to the occupy movement and the BLM, you are the establishment, the hegemony. your role, like that of trump and bannon is to direct popular anger from the 1 precent, regardless of their ethnicity to other minoretis

>>140021579
I think people will move away from their homes if the state uses force. I'm not saying I think it is likely that the US can be saved at this point, I'm saying that if we wanted to do so this would be the way to do it.

>>140013188
Wew lad I know a lot of faggots like to shitpost LARPing as shills on /pol/, but you truly are a next level faggot for ACTUALLY, UNIRONICALLY SHILLING ON FUCKING /pol/

seriously consider suicide

>>140021823
I hear you, comrade. Those fascists are worthless.

>>140013188
antifa aren't anti fascists. they're just people who think its cool to dress in black and beat people up.

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>>140013188
No. Fuck commies, fuck antifa, and fuck you

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>DHS formally classifies activities of Antifa as “domestic terrorist violence”.

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/904119791253848064

What’s the end game here. Ryan and Pelosi dug their heels in only a week ago standing by them as did many in the media then an about face quickly.

>>140021733
>The prime threat, I would argue, is capitalism

Ok, well begin leading revolutions within Russia, Europe, China, and India then. We can demolish it in America last.

>>140013188
Antifa doesn't even know what fascism is.
Hell, most "fascists" don't even know what fascism is.

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>>140022245
>/pol/ loves the corporate owned neolib/neocon government now

>>140022061
you can threaten people, kill them, make ethnic cleansing like that. who you think the police, the state, likes more. us the anarchist, the "commies" the black ghetto scum? or you - law abiding, god fearing, tax paying patriots?

*CIA shilling intensifies

Ugh. Don't want tranny pedo scum involved mate. Maybe the real useful idiot street soldier types. They just want something to fight for. Something to believe in.

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>>140022338
End game for who? Liberals and corporate Dems? The bullet.

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>>140022442
I'd take those concerns a lot more seriously if anti-fa didn't attack those who simply want to self segregate. Voluntary disassociation is not fascism.

>>140022410
Fine by me, the US is the most fucked of all.
>>140022442
Why the fuck do you insinuate that National Socialists are in any way similar to conservative christian trumptards? The US establishment is garbage, and just because in an ideal society I would abide by laws and pay taxes doesn't mean that I support all countries that employ such.

>commies and Nazifags work together
>triumph
>Nazifags kill the commies because commies are against gun ownership like the leftists they are

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>>140022676
you wanna "self segregate"? great. buy some land and set your shit up, or move to some all white place. dont come to a mixed place and tell us how you all superior and shit and fuck other races

>>140022750
The US establishment is already similar to Nazi establishment, just without the rhetoric.

>capitalist
>corporate owned
>corrupt
>warmongering
>police state
>legalized slavery

>>140022520
For anyone really. I’m just puzzled that there’s been such a quick turn around about them. I mean it’s only been a week and suddenly media and politicians have suddenly gone from muh resistance dats raycis to stop the antifaggots

>>140022949
Mah nigga

>>140022750
look man, our end game is to kill capitalism, the wage system, the cops that keep safe the have-all from the have-not. racism is just a tool to divide the working class. our victory will spell out the end of race as a social category.

>>140013188
They are panty wearing faggots.
They are useless.
They are not welcome.

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>>140023191
The establishment is overwhelmingly liberal. And one thing liberals pride themselves on is non-violence. At first, they tried to use Heather's death for political gain, like not mentioning that she was a socialist, and to co-opt the antifa movement. But Antifa got violent, and thus became indefensible in the eyes of liberals.

Good thing, too. Because uprooting the liberal deep state is next on the menu, not getting the Dems reelected. If antifa can hang Obama and flay Hillary, too, that would be choice.

>>140021670
Vice is worse than infowars.

I am serious, I know you have depression. Listen to the voice in your head that tells you how worthless you are.

>>140020307
natural isn't an argument, friend.

>>140023351
Then why are so many members of Antifa against racism?
Wouldn't LGBT pride be another tool to divide the working class?

What encourages technological growth if there's no means of personal growth?
Are people expected to invent for the good of the community and expect nothing in return?

What's to stop people from deliberately underperforming at their jobs since there would not be any chance for growth?

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FUCK TRUMP!!!

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>>140023507
bootlicker ... how can i get depressed after our victory in Berkeley?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks&t=244s

>>140013470
Fuck off Antifa

>>140013188

>Be me
>Be Far Right
>Hanging out with Euro-Far Right bro's on a rented property
>Doing acid and a plethora of other drugs
>Invite a few Antifa guys
>Everyone had a good time
>Antifa are surprisingly open to racist "jokes"
>Not much political arguing
>Much self introspection and understanding gained as to how my biology and personality shape my political beliefs

Good times.

>>140024202
Fuck off kike

>>140013470
The horse shoe theory is bullshit

>>140024504
I agree, because the horse shoe theory, applied to this scenario, would imply that National Socialism is far right, which it is not.

>>140018843
Antifa works for the Jews

>>140024684
Are you a Strasserist?

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>>140023952
when you wash you dishes do you expat something in return? you dont get payed for it and you probably do your family members dishes too... when you give your girlfriend head you dont to it for money, you do so for her sake.. Antifa is against racism because fallowing the cracks in that system as exemplified by the occupy movement and BLM and standing rock the system and its conformists feel threatened so they attack and we attack back. fags are cool also, nobody puts a gun to your head in antifa and makes you suck a dick

>>140024767
I don't believe I am.

>>140024856
What about industry in a communist society?
Do factories shut down? Who will construct buildings?
I'm sure entertainment will vanish since there's no incentive to produce anything if there's no compensation for their work

Does any kind of recreation exist in "true" communism?
What is the daily life of the average person living in a true communist society?

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>>140025022
Then you're right-wing. Now go privatize everything and make the rich richer.

>>140013188
What are you allying up to? You vote once every four years, that's all.

>>140013188

They have always claimed that the media is 'right wing'. They will continue to do so.

>>140025475
Didn't say I wasn't right-wing, said NatSoc wasn't FAR right. There is a difference.

>>140013188
>We are both groups demonized by the Jewish economy that is capitalism. We are both aware of the real threat: corporations and politicians, and it is time for us to stop fighting our brothers and band together.

Antifa cannot coexist with a group that believes race and biology exists anymore than National Socialists can coexist alongside people that don't.

Stop shitposting idiot.

>>140025585
Not to the bullets.

>>140025798
So much for trying to reason with commies, it seems!

>>140013188
I never, ever, ever want to be in the same boat as liberal shitheads with zero thinking skill. These guys ended up as antifa because their only method of debate and discussion is to scream "Nazi!" and use violence.

Never.

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>>140025341
sure factories exist, workers run them. there are cooperatives in the US even today. who constructs buildings now? the people that do. trump building wont be named Trump Building it would be named whatever the commune decides. entertainment? sure musicians make music regardless of profit. even when we lived in caves music existed, and it wasn't canned inside a individual iphone, it was a communal celebration. the average life is just freedom, being an active member of a real community and not a spectator of big businesses and big power. you cant even grow you vegtables in your front lawn in this society, in capitalism you are a tourist all your life even in your homeland

>>140025929
Your movement were useful idiots to capitalists in the first place. Your condemnation of capitalism is lip service, at best.

You're not useful anymore.

>>140013188
We're not so different, you and I...
HAH! GAY
We ride Antifa to power off them radicalizing normie reactionaries.

>>140013188

>has nazi flag

You're not fooling anyone

>>140021508
The Soviet Union was just as much a part of the Allies as Britain was, them being Co belligerents is just a meme

>>140013188
>it is time for us to stop fighting our brothers and band together.
b8.
I say let Moloch kick Anti-fa noses into Soros last fart.

>>140013188
>extend an olive branch
You're retarded.

>>140014289
Dont worry dude, people with an iq over 75 know what you mean. communist agitators abuse the problems of the society to instill in the masses a misguided anger and use them to destroy what is good. Most of them can be convinced if they are allowed to reason for themselves and not see everything through the agitators propaganda.

hitler didnt hate russians because they were russians, but because of the ideology that took over the monarchy of Russia. the jews. He would have given Russia back to more self-determined future if not the yankee-jews came in to save them and destroy Germany again.

>>140013188
how fucking high are you?

It's an interesting idea, but there is just way too much bad blood between the two, only a handful of either party would consider it, and even less actually go through with it

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>>140016598
Hahahahaaha OP wants the support of BLM


You do also realise antifa promote race mixing?


Get out Rabbi. Your flag isn't fooling anyone .

>>140026447
You're probably right. It just seems like a hopeless battle for either side in this case unless we garner more support.
>>140026372
This. Sure, many antifa members are foolish grunts, but I have personally met individuals who believe in antifa and are also able to reason and debate opposing ideas.

>>140026079
What about modern forms of entertainment like movies, television and video games?
Would actors, musicians, ect. coincide with the idea of true equality and give up all their wealth?
We aren't talking about building a society up from nothing, this is an established society full of greedy people
Everyone has wants and desires

What is the incentive for people to do the best job they can in industry other than "doing it for the good of the community"?
Human beings aren't angels

>>140013188
Haha no. I'd rather partner with democrats than Antifa.

>>140013470
And this is why both of your ideologies are fucking garbage. Also, capitalism isn't a fucking ideology, it's an economic system. The ideology is liberalism.

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>>140022949
You have no power here commie cuck

>>140017060
anarchists and bolsheviks. especially national bolsheviks where you have almost all the old-school commies. It is just now in the future that the muslim loving no-borders no-nation faggots have appeared.
>inb4 muh socialists worldwide 1920s bla bla soviet union
>union of different oblasts/states/republics whatever the fuck ya like

>>140026700
you see? "doing it for the good of the community" this is a stupid cliche in capitalist society, there is no community so you put it in parentheses. i think even rich people are sad today, imagene walling yourself in inside gated communities surrounded with private security firms, "public" police and security cameras while all around you poor angry people. if some people dont have a glass of water to drink they shouldnt be swimming in swimming pools. a film is a collective thing, many people do it, and think how stupid today films are, a reproduction of a reproduction of a reproduction..... this shit kills our imaginasion. and for what? another blockbuster?

>>140013188
JOINED LEFT AND RIGHT; GAS THE JEWS

>>140027593
So you don't have an answer?
>parentheses
I used quotation marks

>>140013188
Fuck off kike
sage

>>140027843
of course you need to go to war for communism, its already going down, i know many people a afraid. fuck them.

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>>140027843
https://illwilleditions.noblogs.org/files/2017/04/First-Revolutionary-Measures-READ-revised-4-5.2017.pdf

>>140028015
What happened to the /Antifa General/ and /Communism General/ since the media turned their back on your ilk?
Almost like the majority of them were being paid to shitpost and since they aren't getting paid anymore they stopped showing up

You're losing the culture war because normies aren't into your message and aren't willing to fight
All they want to do is virtue signal on social media and call it a day

>>140013188
It already is kind of is an alliance. Together we enact a kabuki theater that terrorizes the establishment, making them fail harder and faster.

When the center has collapsed, the true war can begin.

>>140013470
Commies and Nazis both get the helicopter, stormfag.

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>>140013188
>being cordial with communists
Hitler would be ashamed you wasted his digits.

>>140028389
>What happened

lol nothing happened, Berkeley "free speech week" got anceled thats what happened. they know the if alt right cucks come in mass there will be a war zone.

shit post? our movement exist in real life, its not made of pretty youtube girls, gladiator e-celebs looking for funding, atomized troll snitchs and china made MAGA hats. this shit is a spectacle not a political movement. at the end of the day nobody turned out to fight us. the media hated Trump too but he won didn't he?

>>140028951
What happened to the heavy presence of Antifa and communists on /pol/?
The generals are gone, where have they gone?

>>140028951
Trump is controlled OP, and so are the Alt-Right.

>>140028739
This. Romantics are a cancer and deserve being dumped into the Great Lakes.

>>140013188
Antifa are a group comprised of entitled neet sjw's who can't even stay on message as to whether they want communism or anarchy. All they seem to agree on is that they love the gays, love brown people, and love that sweet sweet Muhammad cock and if you don't love those things you're literally Hitler.

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>>140029083
oh, shit, i dont know. probably they saw that its all a big nothing and since they wont come to rallies they can have this place. let the nazis be on /pol/ the streets are ours

>>140013188
>stormfags allies with gommies
FUCKING FINALLY
>>/leftypol/

Modern fascism was borne out of risining communism evil.

To ally with commies go against everything fascism stands for.

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Am i the only one concerned that there's a Chinky heading up a left-wing terror squad in the USA? Am i the only one concerned at the heavy latin American involvement in these groups? Didn't Cuba make inroads in South America assisting far-left groups and movements? Would it be fair to say that, as presently constituted, the Democrats are a bulwark against US intervention in Communist states around the world? Would it be fair to say that opposition to groups that would induce anti communist sentiment in the US administration would be in the interest of these States?

>>140013188
I'd rather work with a deluded libtard than commie scum. The only good commie is a dead commie.

>>140017752
>Finally a Nazi who realizes that his ideology is closer to Marxist Socialism than capitalism

National Socialism is close to Marxist Socialism?

Who could have guessed that?