Would you die for "America"?

You could always use the chaos to eliminate the (((politicians))) and set your country straight.

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>>140003927
>that guy on the right muzzling his buddy with his finger on the trigger
triggered

>>140003927
These are the conditions that result in Balkanization. The only thing holding the house of cards together is the fact that minories are united in stealing from whitey. This is one of the main reasons the establishment is pushing leftism so hard.

>>140003927
I'd fight for the kind of America shown in Red Dawn. Not for a kike-controlled, shitskin-filled third world shithole.

>>140005387
80s America was a kike-controlled, shitskin-filled third world shithole, just not as bad as today.

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>>140004947
It's not that America will spontaneously break apart, it's that if attacked (from withing or without) millions of people (like me) won't fight, even a little, to protect it.

I have a simple litmus test that America has failed in EVERY war since 1848:
>If YOU are in YOUR neighborhood and there are soldiers from SOME OTHER PLACE walking down the street. YOU are a freedom fighter for killing them, and they are the "bad guys".

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>>140005661
>...just not as bad as today.

We hadn't reached maximum kikery (yet). They were JUST ramping up the mental indoctrination machine. You could still see shows and movies where EVERYONE was (apparently) white. In many ways, It was a golden age of innocence, just 20 years after the 1965 immigration act, and long before we would see the results of that demographic treason.

No, I'd make the other poor son of a bitch die for America.

>>140003927
Nope.

I wouldn't die for any country.

>>140007641
real shit

>>140003927
Of course I would

Holy shit, has patriotism died with you people, do you think defending your home from a foreign invader is the work of the jews, do you think saving your family's life is kike propaganda?

NO MATTER HOW FUCKED UP THE GOVERNMENT GETS, WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT.

>fat, loudmouth, stupid and obnoxious """""people"""""
>Jewish control
>stupid brainwashed retards everywhere that do what their told and are just a bunch of pathetic slaves
>niggers spics and non whites everywhere and nobody cares
>get cut at birth
>get shot
>live in a culture less shithole
>so degenerate and sick that it makes Sweden look like a god fearing country
>have one of the most embarrassing worst stereotypes ever
>no sense of racial pride and identity
>all forms of nationalism and patriotism are civic or rooting for Jewish wars
>embarsement of countryman that are arrogant and retarded and say shit that the Jews taught them
>easily butt hurt countrymen that can't take a joke about their country or handle bants
>be hated and universally despised around the world
>israels bitch
>retarded religious zealots and christians everywhere
>shit education system
>get into debt for college
>everyone hates us
>laughing stock of the world
>elected bush twice
>elected a nigger twice
>helped destroy Germany twice
>killed millions of innocent people after WWII
>destroyed Sadams Iraq for Jewish overlords
>bought sold and paid for politicians and government
>water is poisoned with flouride
>quality is non existent, just quantity
>consumerist zombies everywhere
>everyone believes this shithole is the best country in the world
>shitty infrastructure
>3rd world tier rail service
>shitty expensive healthcare

Fuck. No.

>>140003927
this movie was such a piece of shit, except for the part when the crazy guy goes ham and gets shot up by the helicopter.

Here yes
In the middle east or europe? Fuck that

>>140003927
Die for what?
This isnt socialism.no one serves another or cares about another.

>>140003927

Please explain "these"

>>140008610
wtf
nuke Leafistan NOW

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>>140008117
>NO MATTER HOW FUCKED UP THE GOVERNMENT GETS, WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT.
Can we?

We elected orange Jesus, who is probably 80% globalists compared to 100%, and the snowflakes and shitskins have been on permanent chimpout for 10 straight months now. They have been using the state to steal from whitey for so long they feel they DESERVE the things they STEAL.

As far as defending MY HOME, the Federal Government is a million times more likely to INVADE my home than Russia or China. If I kill FEDERAL troops (from somewhere else) in MY NEIGHBORHOOD am I still patriotic?

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>>140008725
I.dont give a shit if anyone else dies or else, this is capitalism.loser, tell me whens the lsst time you saw a ceo in infantry.

>>140003927
Die? Its too easy to die for something, anyone can do that.

What's really hard is to kill for something.

>>140009311
Tell me was the last time you saw a banker in the frontlines of their wars of profit.

>>140009311
>tell me whens the lsst time you saw a ceo in infantry.
When I saw Party Leaders in the Infantry.

>>140009486
Same time I saw a Politburo member.

>>140003927

Watch the movie again.

They weren't fighting for America.
They were fighting for the square inch of land they grew up in.
They were fighting because their parents were behind barbed wire in the drive-in a couple of miles away.

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>>140007115
it's kind of sad that alt lite plebs are more popular on /pol/ than Corneliu is

>>140009663
>>140009586
Nice samefag, I havent mentioned soviets or marxist leninsm you retard, the rich do not fight the wars they send slaves to die to enrich themselves.

>>140009289

Patriotism has nothing to do with listening to the government.

If anything, it's the courage to correct it when it is no longer serving its people.

>>140003927
>Would anybody actually fight and die for "America" today?
No. The Jewnited States of Amurrica is anti-White. Fuck it.

>the real question is who will NOT fight?
I will not fight for this cuntry. I'll fight for my race.

>Maybe that was the (((plan))) all along?
The plan has always been to destroy the White race.

>>140009289
>Can we?
No, we can't. Voting solves nothing. The purpose of Democracy is to prevent change.

>>140009742
Honestly this
> would you fight for america
No
> would you fight if you were being invaded
Absolutely

>>140009802
>I want to serve my country
>I want to be a slave of the rich.
Instead of serving jews you could serve the people with labor.

>>140003927
The number of different races, religions or people don't really matter if they all follow the culture and traditions the country was founded on. You know it's the beginning of the end when someone considers themselves black or Muslim or whatever over being American. Over the past few decades the media has been focusing on what makes people different instead of what unites them. There were a few years of real patriotism shared by the vast majority after 9/11 but that was soon forgotten.

>>140010257
>The number of different races, religions or people don't really matter if they all follow the culture and traditions the country was founded on.
"Western Civilization will still be Western Civilization even if all Whites are extinct, just as long as the non-Whites act somewhat like Western People!"

>>140010824
How the fuck did you misinterpret what I said so hard? Are you legit retarded?

>>140008117
Defending your home and family is one thing. But, America? Let it collapse. The mongrels and darkies aren't my people. (((They))) aren't my people. The mentally Judaized whites aren't my people. The bible thumpers aren't my people. Silicon Valley numales aren't my people. America is already gone, friend.

I would die to bring America down.

I loved seeing this, it's fucking awesome that these people are active in the US:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ech9BYFE4k4

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>>140010257
I felt "The beginning of the end" was in 2008. MILLIONS of people were underwater on their homes (Underwater = owe 500k mortgage on house now worth 300K). In the past, people would have felt it was dishonorable, or dishonest to just abandon the house. You take a credit hit for a few years but offload the "loss" onto the bank, and move on with our life.

Banks and corporations have been fucking people this way since LONG before the great depression (1930's). The one phrase I heard the most was, "It's not personal. It's just business." That's when I felt like the empire was crumbling for real. Since then (((they))) have come up with a lot of accounting tricks to cover up this change in citizens behavior. They wont evict you in the hopes that you will stay in the house (rent free) hoping the price will "recover". Most people just lived rent free, and abandoned the house anyway.

That's a society that HAS reached "peak kikery".

>>140003927
I saw it the other day too.

Aside from the black history teacher, everyone was white.

>>140013176

In the 80s, movies didn't feel they had to include
>tough ass black guy
>martial arts asian
in every movie like today, to avoid being seen as racist lol.

>>140003927

no black, hispanic, asian or muslim in the picture.

racist af.

>>140003927
You don't win a war by dying for your country, you win a war by making the other sorry bastard die for his.

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>>140014012
Somebody feels left out...

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>>140003927
I would not die for the United States until it drastically changes.

>>140006245
What if America attacks you?

>>140014561
Same. Not risking my life for boomers and christcucks. Let them clean up their mess. I'll be comfy in my mountain cabin.

>>140014012
Wrong roach

Hispanic kid on top

>>140003927
Yeah I would
I would die with a freedom boner and AK in my hand.
I'd fight for what this country stands for but not for what it's become

>>140015021

white hispanic doesn't count.

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I just want to die, in general.

If it meant I could hang out with Charlie Sheen I'd do anything

>>140009311
In Israel the most successful politicians have been in many wars themselves.

I'm now in reserves and some of the older people in my platoon have extremely good managerial jobs in civilian life and make over $100k annually. Yet they have been in all the wars in the past 20 years.

>>140016428
And it's infantry

>>140003927
No and this is one of the real litmus tests of a nation.

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>>140003927
>It was typical 80's melodramatic schlock
You...understand nothing about the Cold War or the generation that grew up with imminent nuclear threat.

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>>140003927
No. I would die to protect the country that protects my rights, but it's obvious that America is not that. In fact, the government continually tramples on my rights. Where in the Constitution does it say that I am to pay 30% of my income to junkie losers and subhumans? Where does it say that I'm obligated to pay for humanitarian projects? Where does it say that I deserve less for offering more to society? Why would I give my life for something that does nothing but take away?

I would die for the America that the Founding Fathers had envisioned. I would not die for whatever this is.

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>>140009936

This.

>"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

-Thomas Jefferson.

It sucks but we have to face the reality. We were born into that part of an endless cycle where society is on the downturn. Where the future holds either upheaval or extinction.

And it is up to us to choose. We don't want this choice. We wish we could have been born in better times. Even a generation ago as our parents enjoyed the peak of civilization.

But we did not. We were born here, now.

As men it is our purpose to face down the challenges of our time. To do right by our hallowed ancestors. To carry the torch of Civilization one generation further. To pass it along with hard earned wisdom, to the next generation.

Noone asked for this. But here we are. There's a lot of work to do.

We should get started.

>Then out spake brave Horatius,
>The Captain of the Gate:
>"To every man upon this earth
>Death cometh soon or late.
>And how can man die better
>Than facing fearful odds,
>For the ashes of his fathers,
>And the temples of his Gods."

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>>140003927
>Would you die for "America"?
No, not for this America.

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>>140016428
>>140016500
>ONE race, ONE people, ONE culture, ONE religion. ONE folk. A government that represents the people and a people willing fight and die for that government.
Almonds activated...

Of course there's that pesky 18% arab-muslim CITIZENS of Israel who are breeding like niggers on crack cocaine and fertility drugs. The BDS people never seem to mention them. SOME of them are smart enough to know that being a second class citizen in Israel is better than being a first class citizen in almost ANY arab country. But a LOT of them are traitorous fucks just waiting to stab Israel in the back.

Just pointing out some similarities and differences.

Maybe in the past if I couldn't see the future but there is no way i would die for this shithole now

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nope fuck that let it burn to the ground

>>140016824
>grew up with manufactured imminent nuclear threat
ftfy

>>140003927
>Would you die for "America"?
A better question is...Would you kill for America?
>I don't think America (or any multiculti empire) can survive like this.
"Diverse" Empires and Countries do not survive long.
Homogeneous Empires and Countries survive longer.
And ALL Empires end, and usually end in an ugly manner.

Pure fantasy but, let "them" have the big cities, let them "take care of" our enemies domestic and then kick their ass out. Result, 1790 America. Glorious. Unfortunately no one will do us the favor.

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>>140003927
>Would you die for America?

No, but I'd do a WHOLE LOTTA KILLING!
I can't wait to start tossing homemade satchel charges through the front doors of all those synagogues, and mosques in NYC!
YEEHAW!

>>140017882
No one hires them here except for minimum wage jobs, And no one rents them houses in Jewish areas because your neighbors will turn on you if you dare rent to an arab. Also, they aren't allowed in the military. Except for a tiny minority who proved their allegiance. But even that minority is not allowed into important roles like fighter pilots or intelligence.

The difference here is that the population is woke, unlike the cucks in Europe. Also, Jewish birthrate is higher than arab as of 2016. And 100 years ago over 90% of the population was sandnigger. On top of that, Muslims aren't allowed to immigrate into Israel and you get Israeli citizenship on the spot if you are Jewish.

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>>140016824
In GRADE SCHOOL we did a drill where we climbed under a tangle of chairs while the lights were out. There were search lights and people making machine gun sounds. At the end of the drill they said, "This is what it's like to live in East Germany and try to escape to freedom."

If you tried that shit now you'd be arrested for some sort of mental torture on children. So fuck off, I know exactly what the cold war was like.

>>140018286
>you get Israeli citizenship on the spot if you are Jewish.
well, after three months of staying there, but still.

>>140016824
I was born in 72. And I agree with that other fella. Red Dawn was melodramatic schlock, and that's if you're speaking generously. The only bearable bit was the retardedly amusing AVENGE ME scene.

Out of curiosity, I tried watching the remake, decades later. Lasted about 90 seconds.

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>>140003927
I would strap bombs to my chest for a free Confederacy

>>140003927
We're currently in the Red Dawn scenario right now, the only difference is the commies invaded through the schools, not by air dropping in.

>>140003927
Wolverines weren't fighting for America.
They were fighting for each other, and their homes.
Don't try to co-opt a conservative meme for your agenda.

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>>140018084
>>140018400

>>140016898
this

>>140003927

I don't give a flying fuck (((who))) is in control over the country to be honest with you. No matter what happens my life will remain largely unaffected. No sense dying over Chicago or LA, everyone is going to keep needing beef and I'll keep providing it.

>>140003927
Yes i am currently a sailor in the american navy

>>140003927
Awful trigger discipline

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>>140018786
Yea, but remember in the 1984 version, the United States was fighting back and the people eventually felt like there would be a "Restored American Republic".

IRL, now, most people would fight for their home and family but would never trust any "Restored American Anything." A lot of people might even side with foreign invaders over any Federal forces.

>>140011798
Not the first time...
>Shay's Rebellion
>The rural farming population was generally unable to meet the demands being made of them by merchants or the civil authorities, and individuals began to lose their land and other possessions when they were unable to fulfill their debt and tax obligations. This led to strong resentments against tax collectors and the courts, where creditors obtained and enforced judgments against debtors, and where tax collectors obtained judgments authorizing property seizures.[7]

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays%27_Rebellion

>>140017634
This is true.
We lived a good life.
Time to prepare.

>>140016824
>You...understand nothing about the Cold War or the generation that grew up with imminent nuclear threat.

Totally agree.
I grew up in a US city where nukes were assembled and stored,
and when it came to a nuclear attack,
the question was always "when" not "if".
It's easy to look back now and think that was silly,
but living through it was a different story.

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>>140019489
Montana grass fed, or shitty Texas grain fed? This would probably be my actual criteria for if I side with you.

I love beef, but the long lead time would be terrible in a war or crisis. The worse things get the quicker the need for protein. First cows, then sheep, lamb and goat. Then pigs, and finally chickens. If things are so bad you can't even grow a chicken then people will be eating maggots and bark.

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>>140003927

>>140003927
Nah. I'm a FUCKING WHITE MALE after all.

>>140008546
/Thread

>>140008546
Damn that's dark

>>140020521

Indiana grass fed grain finished.

And I have no problem with people starving, it just makes my beef worth more. I'll live off eggs and fish while people give me their right arm for a pound of beef.

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>>140019625
>Yes i am currently a sailor in the american navy
My niece was in the navy. She said it was filled with FOREIGN retards who could barely speak English and who wouldn't take orders from a woman. This was on a NUCLEAR aircraft carrier. I can only imagine how much worse it was on less important (sensitive) vessels. A LOT of people in the service are very patriotic, but a LOT just see it as a paycheck and nothing else.

That's another hallmark of an empire. The troops (mercenaries) are in it strictly for the gibs. When the gibs dry up they desert in mass.

>>140003927
>Final note: I'm starting to see the idealistic appeal of Nationalism

Good!
As long as you have the nation's back, the nation has yours.

America was built on patriotism and nationalism, its only during the last 30 years that it has been replaced by literally nothing. No point in fighting for a cause that doesn't exist or "the world", who gives a fuck about the world.

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>>140021321
>grass fed
>grain finished
Well aren't you mister fancy pants.

>Indiana
You're forgetting another valuable war time commodity: Corn cobs for wiping your ass.

t. descendant of Connersville folk

>>140003927
>Would you die for "America"?
no, but i would die for my own country or maybe even humanity.

>>140022493
>Humanity
>Dying for a bunch of niggers who would raid your dead corpse after you died for them
Please don't. Helsinki is a lie.

>>140021473
The Philippinos are ok they make it a family tradition to serve and are proud of it. But the women and niggers are the ones who want the most gibs. The hall mark of the modern navy is the fact that they are actively trying to kill its culture they dont let us drink or fight or any of the fun shit we could have done 15 years ago now its a great service and im proud of and will continue it but they need to stop all the PC bullshit

>>140013894
Those are stereotypes man.

Where are the skinny nerdy black men and the well-endowed asian men?

>>140022783
yeah i dont think of africa as the height of "humanity" which is why i put in the maybe.

>>140017634

This exactly. We are the thrown-away generation, the men born of winter. No white man born after 1990 or so, a full generation after Hart-Celler, was (((intended))) to exist.

So we will fight; that decision was made for us long before we were born.

>>140008546
>god those sheep are so retarded
>their shepherds are so awful, they've ruined the sheep
>im a good shepherd, don't need those sheep anyways
>i'll just take care of myself

you're actually what is wrong with the country.

you have disdain for the less intelligent just like the (((people))) you hate, and yet don't have the balls or skills to actually lead them to something better.

pathetic.

>>140003927
Its not about dying for your country, its about making others die for theirs.

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>>140008546
>people risk all to get here
>"everyone is out to get me"
You're a fucking disgusting loser, KYS

>>140022352

Nothing fancy about it. Beef without corn tastes like shit, this is the cheapest way get them market conditioning that I'm aware of.

Fayette county has good people.

Obama / Bush / Clinton America? No way, that was just a pile of shit. Not worth fighting for, unless it could be turned around ...

Trump America? Probably not, because I can be of more use to it alive. But it's worth fighting for.

Another war for Israel or another Korean war at the behest of TPTB? Nah.

Only if the homeland is directly threatened would I take up arms and risk life and limb.

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>>140024994
Wrong. No Europeans are risking everything to get here. Only shitskins do that because this country is great for shitskins but terrible for white people.

>>140003927
If a foreign army occupies my area like in red dawn, yes.

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It is everywhere and always the same.

Would I fight for the corrupt (((government)))? Never.
Would I sell all my shit, cross the sea and fight for the white separatist/antizionist movement anywhere in the world? Always.

If anything, this is one of the greatest things about the nationalism of the 21st century or national socialism; your race is your uniform, and to it you are loyal - anywhere in the world. Not to some fucking politician, to some government or even any movement.

War is coming anyways, we are way beyond the point of no return.

This time, we need to finish the job once and for all, anons.

No, the USSR is preferable to liberal Western democracy

t. Yockey

>>140026220
I said people, not europeans

>>140003927
>Would you die for "America"?
I'd kill for it.

>>140027331
Which is misleading because it is only a handful of specific people groups.

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>>140003927
>I'm a southerner.

We have died in the revolution for our values and many fought for those same values in the civil war from the south, our homes looted and burned by the union.

But the answer is yes, I'd be willing to save this country for its original values.

>>140026575

>Antizionist anywhere in the world

So why haven't you joined the kebabs yet? I mean they're literally all anti-(((zionists)))

>>140027461
bump for truth

>>140027461
It's the common self-defeatist shilling o this board lol subliminal psychological warfare.

America will fall and it will be a fight for survival. There is no inventive to fight other than that. The hordes are coming here to plunder, not the other way around. Taking the joys of rape and pillaging out of warfare has demoralizing effects. Fight for what? Sluts? Indoctrinated zogbots? Maybe give me an 8 year old and I'd have something to fight for. Since America is top cucked for such a proposition, it is in a losing stance and really is a filthy whore with it's legs spread emanating a foul odor. There really is no positive incentive except the glee of reverse genocide and the purging of antisocial pathological elements for some hope of rebuilding, but even that seems like too much work.

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> 2017
>asking on 4chan expecting a serious response

>>140018286
You fucking kikes are beyond the pale, the reason Europeans are "cucks" is because your kike cousins in the media would have a fucking heart attack and kvetch non-stop if Europeans acted 1% as racist and nationalist as you Israel fucks act, and get away with, because it is no meme that Jews control the media.

>>140028763

>We're cucks because you forced us to be!

Whatever you say, cuck.

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>>140028309
Heybo, I must live in a different America than you. Sucks to be you!

>>140028309
Or was that second paragraph supposed to be green text? Lurk moar?

America == White people in America, so yes.

>>140029394
Nah mayne I live deep in redneck country and all I see are disharmonious unhealthy "kin" with only their gmo chicken fed daughters (under 12) being not entirely rehensible. They all eat shit food and have toxic bodies to match their diseased minds. False pride often falls short.

WW3 and natural disasters due to spiritual elements (Earth is mad) forecast 50% or greater world pop reduction so there is hope. Only from the ashes shall a new fire be born. There isn't any thing you cucks can do to avert this karmic reprisal and Kalki will make his appearence. America is merely a meme. Blut und boden is all that matters and the soil could use some volcanic minerals.

>>140029927
Get fucked lololol you scared

>>140003927
The movie is fairly realistic. The majority would value their life over country and just accept what's happening, and the minority would fight.

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>>140030001
Like I said, (From the Deep South), sucks to be you!

>>140023006
I can attest to this statement, niggers don't give a rat's ass about the country only care about gibs>>140023165

>>140030538
Ooga booga nigger better stop with that personality disorder trash communication style

My harmony is too great for this board, lest any divine judgement, but woe be upon the ignorant.