Is water a human right?

Depends what your neighbors think

What is man?

>>139989763
Only if you think like a communist.

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Is air a human right?

>>139989763
good luck privatizing rain clouds

>>139991829
You do know that's why it's illegal in many places in the US to collect rain water.

>>139989763
I would say if human rights exist access to drinking water is on the very top of the list.

Even death row prisoners won't be denied a drink of water.

>>139991906
>americans arent dumb

>>139989763
water is a human construct.

>>139991712
No, that should be privatized as well.

>>139992029
The US resisted the League of Nations for a reason. Alas it forgot that reason. Here's a mind-bender for you:

Gorbachev says the UN owns all the water. But somehow now instead of accusing it of being Russian Hacking we're expected to go along with it.

>>139989763
There is no such thing as a human right

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>>139989763
No sex changes are.

no, if commies want to drink water so much we should drop them in the ocean from a helicopter. The free market will decide how to allocate resources best, especially after the vital infrastructure for is sold off to a single entity who happens to have ties to the current corrupt government in power.

>>139989763
It should be a white people right.

>>139989763
Sounds like a great way to get yourself lynched

>>139991906
That's not why you retard
And very few places it's illegal and it's more to do with eco systems

>>139992449
No, it's because of global control over water. The green stuff, while it is true in some cases, is the cover story to make you want to go along with the program.

>>139989763
Human rights = Human obligations
Human rights are, by definition, authoritarian. No one is forced to supply you or anyone with anything, if you want something go buy it from your own work you communist shit

>>139989763
if you have it to sell, it isnt.
if you need it to drink, it is.

when you charge for things that keep people alive, the fee you yourself inevitably pay will invariably be blood.

>>139989763
Of course. It is freely and widely available to humans in a natural state, it's government and business activities that erode the quality and accessibility of it. For people saying it should be privatized, you're setting up your grandkids for a Hell of a future....and for what, what did you get out of it?

>>139992262

k thx

>>139992515
It's GOVERNMENT control over water.

So the exact opposite of what you claim.

>>139989763
No. But the human right is to be able to pay for and acquire said water.

>>139992721
In the Jew World Order, corprations are the government. You can call it fascism or communism or whatever else you want to call it.

>>139989763
Nothing is a human right. You aren't guaranteed anything just for being a human. You are entitled to nothing.

>>139989763

Capitalism works to a certain degree, but it needs regular hard resets. The richest individuals and corporations need to be dismantled so that balance can be restored. Rinse and repeat.

>>139989763
Declaring water to be a human right transforms the Sahara from the world's largest desert to the world's largest human rights violator.

>water gets privatized
>receive water amount caps and get overage charges if I take more than 3 showers a week

Sounds like fun

>>139989763
nothing is a human right

>>139993022
thats why you pay more and get the unlimited plan you fucking pleb.

>>139992859
>>139993070
simplistic way of looking at it after we've built civilizations and established governments don't you think?

>>139993022
Well, during periods of low water output, people get fined for "wasting" water.

>>139989763
can you sue for forcibly being dehydrated?

Non-profit, municipal water utilities are the way to go.
t: City water plant operator

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If you would have told somebody 30 years ago that you'd get rich selling water at $2 a bottle they'd have laughed in your face.

>>139993191
In japan you have coin operated showers.
Its shit.
Everyone knows its shit.
There is no way that that shit being privatized helps anyone other than an elite select few. Protip: this will NEVER be you.

Is living a human right? I.e. does every human have an obligation to every other human within the social group to keep them alive?

Probably, so long as the social group is reasonable in size and connectedness.

However, in the current weird globalist state capitalist system, there may be a good argument to privatize water somewhat.

I think the recent history of electricity markets could provide a good path forward. Deregulate the production and sale of the commodity itself. Leave a heavily regulated utility that is a slave to a given PSC-like body (the more local, the better) to handle infrastructure maintenance and distribution of the water.

Cutting free water as a commodity would certainly enforce better stewardship. Look at what agricultural water subsidies do to encourage the growth of something water intensive like alfalfa in drought-ridden California. This would be drastically reduced if markets set water pricing.

The biggest problem is guaranteeing availability for those in poverty. You probably cannot avoid a price ceiling or some sort of subsidy or other BS on the residential side of the market.

I don't know what the implications of that would be, but I feel trading current industrial and agricultural inefficiencies for more residential inefficiencies is a good local optimum for now.

>>139993563
Do you know how to make tap ?
https://youtu.be/JQIyYN0ZsSs

>>139989763
I pay for my water. Everyone should pay for the water.

>>139993563
Oh yeah that's great. Because if you go to the city council and ask why they're putting poison in the water they'll have you arrested.

OK /pol/; you know what to do. Short of him being in a shipping container somewhere in the middle of the Serengeti, make digital spaghetti of his everything, butt make sure his water bill is the last. THEN, it's time for lawsuits.

>>139993746
You don't pay for water. You pay for the utility. Dig a well and you don't pay shit.

>>139993923
Just go after Warren Buffet using his freight rail to store fracking wastewater.

No such thing as human rights, "Human rights" are a UN meme to make US invasions of countries with no central bank sound legitimate all the while covertly advocating for socialism.

Globalist bullshit at its finest.

Also, water should be provided fully privately, none of that government-managed private monopoly crap.

If you disagree you deserve the fluoride and estrogens Z.O.G. Water Ltd. is serving you.

>>139991477
A miserable pile of secrets?

>>139994084
Mankind ill needs a savior such as you!

There's no way that he's a Jew. Well, /pol/?

>>139993633
That's because there's been a successful campaign that labels public water and the water you get in sinks as filled with pollutants. The right says it's filled with fluoride, chemicals, and hormones made to pacify you and make you a feminine beta and the left says it's filled with shit, waste, garbage, and chemicals from government and big business made to poison you.

The truth is that public water and the water you get in your sink is largely safe and healthy to drink.

>>139994235
Shabbos Goy.

>>139991477
Man is a god in ruins.

>>139989763
No, poor people and low IQ retards living outside of cities shouldn't be allowed to live.

>>139994240
>Drink the water, goy

>>139989763
it's not even a right, it's a necessity

>>139989763
Isn't there something about in Haiti water was privatized, and now a days worth of water costs more than a normal Haitian's daily wages. Which is part of the reason they drink bad stuff and get sick.

>>139989763
Water is a right. Clean water is a privilege.

>>139989763
you should be privatized pleb.

>>139991712
Does air need to be filtered, bottled and delivered to you?

>>139993660
>In japan you have coin operated showers.
In the US, we have not only the technology, but the ability to make entire self-cleaning restrooms. Butt, judging from some of the videos/webm's, there are still those who will choose to be a phantom street-shitter as opposed to paying a nickel per flush. We're gonna be a 3rd world anyway, we might as well be a Lemony-Fresh smelling 3rd world shit hole; amiright?

Meanwhile, some places here in the US where 3rd world street-shitters are being imported becuz the victims of 'Cultural Enrichment' have dun loss dey fuggin mines and do be screet-shittas who shit where eva dey pleez

>>139994357
that doesnt make it a right

>>139991712
No one has a right over anything, but greed has destroyed that notion...

It is time we all look in the mirror and ask it, who has the right to control me?

turn to Jesus, side with the light.

>>139994047
>Globalist bullshit at its finest.
On balance; the globalists get it right with respect to overpopulation and useless eaters. Which btw is why you see so many striking for master race including our BFF;s in that most magical, most holiest of holy GPS locations in the middle east.

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>>139989763
>water is a human right
let me decrypt that newspeak for you guys

>i have the right to force other people, at gunpoint to pay for my water
there you go

>>139991712
Yes, the blacks are taking up to much of it.

>>139994357
Drink from any body of water you want. When someone takes the time to bottle or pipe it you must pay.

>>139994678
I think I agree with the point you are trying to make but you were pretty incoherent in the delivery.
(((Greed))) has spoiled the idea of freedom for everybody else. Our society used to be a lot more cooperative but now everybody is just looking to screw everybody else over for as much personal gain as possible. So water isn't a right. But sadly because we've turned away from God and become sinners without some big bully-state protecting our drinking water we would basically all be jewed to death.

>>139993840
You need to take off your tin foil hat before attending city council meetings. I assume fluoride is an issue with you. I'm the guy that adds it to the water, lol.

Vote it out if you don't want it. My city voted it in in 1969. They can vote it out any time they want. Personally I hate the shit. It always burns holes through my clothes, and it's not a lot of fun to breath in either. Hire a well driller to drill you a well, or just go drive one in with a sledge hammer in your back yard.

>>139994948
Vote what out? There's no vote. Can I also vote the chloramine out? No.

>>139994409
So what, their fault for being too poor. They need to clean their rooms and slay the dragon, and start their own water company so that the invisible hand fixes it.

Why would honest taxpaying citizens be forced to give lazy worthless scum their water? Are you a commie?

>>139989763
No one owns water sources.

>>139994948
You're going to hell

>>139989763

Okay. Let's privatize fucking everything down to atoms. Who is going to make you money when nobody but the top 1% can afford to exist? What are you going to use that money on when nobdy is alive to create anything? What is the purpose of endless greed?

>>139994469
>bottled
Does water? People got by for thousands of years before bottled water was a thing, now corporations have convinced people like you that it needs to be wrapped in plastic to be drinkable. I already pay a reasonable amount to have my water filtered and delivered to me. Paying some corporation 10x as much for the same product would be of absolutely no benefit to anyone except an elite class that you'll never be a part of. Lolberts are such fucking cucks, always happy to get the boot on their neck as long as it's "privatized". Lmao

Well obvs when you pay for city water, you're paying for the infrastructure and costs to provide so fair enough. When you pay for bottled water, you're paying for the business costs, fair enough. When you live in a climate that has little water, you have to pay for its transport etc.. fair enough. Rain capture limits must be imposed for the sake of agriculture and hoarding nutjobs, fair enough. Otherwise lakes and water sources should not be privatized (unless surrounded by private homeowners in agreement), waterways and their integrity have to be protected by law against pollution. This balance of interests and needs works, people can swim and drink freely or pay parks fees, live outdoor lifestyles etc., farmers are protected and have adequate water processes. Corporations still have the ability to make money with the added plus of a healthy population able to work and buy things. Go too corporate and we're looking at a mad max style future hellhole. Balance is key.

>>139989763

Human rights are a spook.

Does man own the earth? We are part of nature-we are mostly water ourselves.

>>139995174
>someone says all these water sourves are mines!
>people occupy the sources and kill the degenerate faggot, no one has a right to own or sell water sources.
Done

>>139995174
>flag
OY VEY GOYM NOTHING TO SEE HERE

daily reminder that USA citizens can't even store rain water

>>139995218
The 99% are all supposed to die. Overpopulation, you know.

>>139992184
This

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>>139989763
>No. It is not. Me and my fellow billionaire globalist elites are going to privatize it. We've already begun. We can get our right wing retard useful idiot army of conservashits to do anything we command.

>>139995226
Then don't buy bottles water, you prick.

>>139994867
I am super stoned and a little drunk, but you must shed the past as it does not exist, the only thing that exists is this present moment and the future is only determined from what is happening now. Your future is only created from present, past is memories which can be false or even nullified and forgotten, thus your thoughts are you world creation.

The education system is limiting us by design.

Our full potential has been forgotten until recent years we have begun to remember, we're all slaves to the system, the system will be smashed.

>>139989763
No. Water has existed since the beginning of time and just because we happen to need it for survival means nothing you insignificant ant

>>139995477
How can you privatize what doesent belong to you?
Anyone for the right of someone to own a water source is mentally retarded.

>>139992808
Callate narizon.

>>139995482
I don't, fuckwad. Buying bottled water is the ultimate form of cuckoldry. You'd literally be better off buying your own bottles and filters than paying for that shit.

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>>139992326

>>139995378

But the 1% are absolutelly helpless on their own. Most of them are 70+ old pops wearing diapers ffs.

Yes it's a fucking right. We pay water companies for the convenience not the product

>>139995650
>How can you privatize what doesent belong to you?
They teach people that it should be, that is how....

>>139995745
But if they live long enough they might get to be part of the priest class and defeat death. That's why they literally call themselves the "masters of the universe."

>>139995675
>collect rain
>filter sediments
>have tge water rolling a boil.for 5.minutes
>all pathogens killed
Drink.

The only 'right' you have as a human is to die in the street.

>>139995874

Well, good luck with that I guess.

Rain water is legal to collect in all US states. Some states have stipulations on how much (Colorado) or safeguards to make sure you are not cross connecting potable and non potable water.

Colorado limits to non dependent people (aka city folk) 2 barrels. If you want to collect a lifetime supply then you should look into water treatment systems than just funnel+barrel and call it good because that is how you grow some nasty ass bacteria. This is where government laws actually prevent some dumb ass spreading disease to innocent people.

Again human rights are arbitrary agreed on. Reality and mother nature dont fucking care if you live in a scare environment.

Why haven't we privatized the ocean?

>>139995745
The 1% pay servants to oppress others for parasitic leftovers.

>>139994732
this

>>139996013
They're getting closer. Also fun fact they're using foreskins as part of the life extension technology until they can replace reality with a computer simulation.

>>139996059
This. We should continue to award absentee ownership over the planet's finite resources even though new people are being born every day and then use the power of the state to act as armed force against anybody who doesn't agree with the way a small number of families in the previous generation claimed everything in existence for their kin leaving everybody else as a virtual slave class.

What could possibly go wrong? Lol ahaven't you read fountain head. Stupid commies.

>>139996059
>do I want someone to have the right to own water sources
No.

>>139995650
As a government entity water is regulated; and property owners have the rights to their wells. However, once that water passes the jurisdiction of the source, it is still incumbent upon the property owner of the source to make concessions for the greater good - i.e. Lake Michigan and the rights of the WI counties on the shoreline to judiciously permit outlying contiguous counties to access said water.

I would expect that private corporations that have property right access to large sources of water, to be as bound by law as governmental entities to ethically ensure the health and welfare of those within a common-sense vicinity who would otherwise have no access to a source of clean drinking water.

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>>139995885
Even buying a fancy, expensive water filter/pump system and using it to clean dirty river water would be a better investment over time than paying for millions of disposable bottles. I can't imagine how cucked you'd have to be to think you're better off getting your water from corporations

>>139995874
well if they wanted that you would have thought that they would not try to slow technological progress and treated everyone else with actual brains like a piece of shit.

Venezuela made water a human right, they put it in their constitution.

Water being a human right, the government set an artificial price on bottled water.

Then there was no profit on bottled water which turned into shortages.

Before everything turned to shit in Venezuela they had an obesity problem because people bought soft drinks when there was no water.

>>139989763

No source for the quote?

Never change, /pol/.

>>139989763
Someone else's property can never be a human right

>>139996340
You would think that, wouldn't you? But for whatever reason, whether it's the tech giants or the universities, they're all about keeping all the paid slaves blind to the big picture so they can keep working on all the different little pieces of the technology they think they'll need, and even motivated and excited to be effectively digging their own graves.

So I guess to some extent you have to consider that the model is more effective than you might think.

>>139996518
No one owns water sources.

>>139996518
Try to deprive water sources from.the need of a people and that people will lynch you and hang you up in the town square.

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>>139993660
>implying no one could start a competing coin shower business with different options

how about you start implementing solutions instead of bitching about everything? What are you doing to make the solution better, pointing out the flaws? Gee, you're useful. You're probably the type of person who just sits there bitching about life and "muh elite" while not implementing or innovating a single thing.

>>139996701
Except when they do

>>139996380
My city went under a boil water advisory a couple years ago, precautionary,
>trap samples appeared to have been contaminated in the lab and thus tested positive for ecoli, just boil some water folks, you'll be fine.
>Retarded populace swarms the stores, buys up all the bottled water.
>Was at the store with gf to buy some meat to go with dinner, all water, mineral water, etc, sold out. Pass by frantic mother with shopping cart full of 7-up.
>Radio talking about people trying to scalp cases of bottled water on kijiji
>check, it's true.kek
>Get home to make dinner.
>Boil water advisory lifted: lab contamination confirmed.
>Dump out pot of water that we boiled.
People are literal retards and frankly most humans deserve to die. I'm not even being edgy. Why is it that I am able to think rationally and remain calm in a situation that barely qualifies as an emergency and yet large swaths of the population just act like fucking retards?

But then these are the same kinds of retards for which there is even a bottled water industry to begin with. But these people should all fucking die. Because these big industrial water extraction operations are ruining the planet.

>>139996701
There's a tremendous amount of water trapped in rocks and sand that hasn't been exposed to modern pollution. Turns out you can own rocks and sand.

>>139989763
This is why we need national socialism.

Water is just a natural resource, what other natural resources are human rights?

>Cause serious issues for the future of humanity just to make a quick buck
capitalism shouldn't be able to fuck up this hard

>>139989763
In the sense that no one should be allowed to prohibit you from seeking it out? Yes.

In the sense that other people should be forced to purify and pump it to your house free of charge? No.

>>139996932
That's because the slaves will take care of it for the master race, correct?

>>139996900
Because the people arent deprived of water, expect water wars if someone decides to withold or gauge water to a settlement, expect everyone there to liberate the water and the public owns it.

>>139997021
>the gallant white-knight of flagrant jewry has arrived.
WEW.
For starters; most of the resources these companies extract is on public land. They pay almost nothing for it. And yet if you or I were to go and try and get an extraction permit we'd get laughed out of the building.
Corporate welfare is real you fucking retard.

>>139996889
We have implemented a solution: it's called creating a government and paying taxes so that we have access to utilities, retard. Why are you acting like this isn't the norm everywhere and that coin operated showers aren't an aberration that only cucks like you defend?

>>139996929
Irrelevant towards the needs of water to a settlement.

it would be eugenic to privatize water. I cannot disagree with his argument.

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>>139992859
This is what my brother says. He is a white BLM activist. He is also a Bernie "give me dat" Sanders supporter. How ironic.

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Access to water: No
Cleaning the water: Yes, to a degree.

If governments, multinationals or terrorists groups pollute with radioactive waste, then we have to group and collectivize water cleaning since we don't have the technology yet to achieve that privately.

>>139996320
enough people are willing to pay for laziness that you don't have to work that hard to be successful. You should have no problem finding success if you believe yourself to be better than them.

>>139989763
He did a response to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dMA0_cLdeE

>>139997260
Water wars are already on. Examine pretty much any major conflict. You will find control of the water to be one of the spoils.

insert a no natural rights variant here

>>139997438
Well there are no rights. Rights are an abstract idea. People both left and right worship all these man made institutions like they actually mean something and act accordingly. But no such institution stands forever.

>>139997511
I'm already quite well off enough for my liking but thanks for the concern

>>139997351
Tell that to the Saudi government, for instance, which is willing to pay in physical gold for the technology to get the water out of all the sand they have.

>>139989763
No, but the public should own major water sources and everyone has the right to filter and drink rainwater that falls on their property.

>>139994678

rights are the bases of civilization. You don't want rights feel free to go live in the jungle.

Riddle me this AnarchoKikepitalists:
If big companies like Nestle pollute the air and the ground water, should I have to pay to filter their pollution out of water that I have collected for my own use?

>>139994409
> in Haiti
Found the problem

>>139997612
Has nothing to do with access to ready sources of water to pump in tge settlement.

>>139997768

No you should pay for the filth as it's their property

>>139989763
we're made up of water LOL

>>139997564
Syrian conflict was caused by drought and a hike in water tax which led protest and then to certain groups arming rebels in the country.

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>>139998000
>wasting trips on this normie-post.

>>139997768

IF their pollution gets on your property, that is a violation of the NAP and you can murder them in their sleep.

>>139997813
Sure it does. Part of Israel's northern expansion is to get the water there. Meanwhile, they're also scrambling to desalinize salt water.

And Libya? Well we certainly had to stop Gaddafi's irrigation projects. That might have lead to agriculture and development.

Syria? Isn't it strange how the forces seem to line up with the water supply?

>>139989763
Is it a scarce resource that you are not born with?

Then no, it is not a human right.

>>139995345
Meanwhile in Poland:

>Poland considers a draft law, which stipulates a tax for rainwater. Common citizens, who own a house or an apartment, as well as businessmen and traders will have to pay for rain. The amount of the tax will directly depend on the square that they have in their property, Noviye Izvestia reports.

>>139997930
Why do liberkikes exist?
Retarded?
Believe they will be exploiters?
Pure kikery evil that would getnyou lynched by early settlers in the us, no mythical rights only the peoples discussions and interests.

>>139989763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_pb6r8VNWk

A human right is just a sentence on a piece of paper unless you can back it up with force.

>>139989763
water distribution is private already. And to nobody's surprise, it inflated the price artificially, reduced teh quality of the water and added a system of quota so people will pay extra for consuming just like they always did before.

>>139998073
This is completely irrelevant to anything you filthy kike nigger.

Clean and Filtered water is not a human right, you need to do that shit yourself.

>critical thinking hard for libs hurrrrrrrrrrr

>>139998113

We have had this tax for a long time now.

>>139989763

Yes.

>>139994281

Ralph Waldo Emerson!

>>139994357

I completely agree with you.

>>139998155

Okay, I didn't get any of that but good day to you too. I'm gonna go have a nicotine jew.

>>139989763

When people say "is ___ a human right", what they usually mean... do I have a right to get it for free once someone else has produced and distributed it.

In other words... if you ask "is water a human right?".... are you asking if it's a right to grab a bucket of water out of a river, or should you be able to get it out of your home tap for free?

>>139998388
Water belongs to the public no one has a right to own it, it is for the commons and public.

>>139998596
The public built all the water infastructure and roads you nigger.

>>139998155
Lolberts think that they are just temporarily embarrassed billionaires and live vicariously through elites. That's why they're always willing to suffer a decline in their quality of life as long as it entails that private companies have more power and influence over their lives

>>139989763
His ass should be privatized. With a shotgun.

>>139998610
You might want to read up on "the commons"...

>>139998777
>>139998777
nice 7s
checked

>>139989763

there's no such thing as "rights" and you sure as fuck dont get them from the government

but if you dont want to die from contaminated water a good idea would not be let the government near it

>>139998610
>When the plebs build a road, which violates the NAP so you pollute all the ground water and monopolize clean water and transport it on their road for free.

>>139989763
What a dick.

>>139998948
>if you dont want to die from contaminated water a good idea would not be let the government near it
Tap water has less contaminants than bottled water on average. Why are all lolbert arguments so empty and platitudinous?

>>139998711

Apples and oranges. What you're talking about is a public utility or a public service project.

So, the water company operates as a non-profit, and people are charged based on what they use.

That is not the same as saying it should be free. And that's certainly not the same as saying I have a "right" to water coming out of my faucet.

there are no human rights. we only have the rights trump sees fit to grant to us in his wisdom, so that we may overcome the muslims. god save King Donald I, King of America, and may God damn his enemies, and in particular, destroy the muslim and liberal hordes

>>139992326
Idiot.

>>139997290
That's nice leaf but which part of that is about water being a human right

>>139989763
Well it depends on what you mean by "water".
Bottled water, sure, you're paying for their filtering process as well as the container for the water.
Rain water collected and filtered by you, should be free. But it's not, I don't think it's legal to collect rain water.

>>139989763

There are no such thing as human right

>>139999453
see:
>>139997570
People who worship artificial institutions should all be gassed. They are the biggest cancer of all. They are the people that ruin politics with mentally retarded absolutist ideas.

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>not realizing that your creator made you marvelously and that you have access to your own supply of sterile water

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>>139989763
Protip: Nothing is a human right. Human rights are a nice idea, but they're nothing more than that.

hurr durr water purification plants owned by someone else than the government means "water is privatized"

>>139989763
There are no human rights. If you want something, you fucking earn it.

If you don't care to be enslaved or exterminated, figure out how to fight wars and win them.

>>139994181
It was not by my hand that I was once again given flesh.

>>139999720
Jeez anon you're pretty edgy for a canadian. You must be from Toronto

>>139992859
The American founding fathers would say otherwise.

>>139991906
It was illegal in my hometown because the industrial areas polluted the rain clouds.

>>139989763
What's a human right?

>>140000471
They would if they were still alive. Stupid white boys forgot to make being alive forever a human right, IDIOTS

>>139995924
Amen let's burn the constitution brother.
This is why I fucking hate this place.
Ancaps eat shit.

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0>If something isn't given a value, people tend to waste it. Water is our most useful resource, but those using it often don’t even cover the costs of its infrastructure. Fresh water is being massively overused at nature’s expense, but it seems only a global crisis will make us realise the importance of the issue. What is environmentally unsustainable today will become socially unsustainable in the future

he actually makes some good points
>inb4 jew
Think about it

>>139999879

Governemnts can run necessary services without profit. Private businesse's can not.

>>139989763
Yes water is a human right.

If you actually care about western culture and civilization you would be familiar with the charter of the forest, which predates the Magna Carta and laid the foundations of our legal system and property rights.

The basic argument is that allowing anyone to stake private property claims on the sources of what is essentially necessary for human life is antithetical to the foundation of society. This is because no one rational should ever consent to the governing of a king who would allow someone to deprive them of the chance at life that would be available to them outside of that kings rule (scale it down the size of a tribal society, why would anyone stay in a tribe that denies them essential things like water if they would be better off just going off on their own where they could either find water or fight others who claim that water)

Tl;dr water is so essential to life, that allowing people to privatize it would breakdown the reason people are willing to cooperate with each other and end civilized society

>>140000370
Not an argument.

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No of course water is not human what the fuck
Water is a Pokemon type

>>139994335
I drank tap water in China (boild, of course) and I didn't die.

>>140000938
I really only drink distilled water. How about you, semite?

>>140001098
What a crock of shit, king always killed everyone who touched his deer, it's in all the history books, that's why he beheaded Robbin' the Hood.

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>>140001333
one o' these bad boyos

>>139989763
cui bono

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>>139989763
>tfw infinite water with no tax
stay mad hydrationlets

>>139994482
Need more lemon pledge

>>139994732
Doesn't it just mean we want the Govt to take care of providing water much like they provide roads or are you one of those people who think all roads should be privately owned and tolled?

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>>139994240
It's only healthy if you use one of my filters.

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>>139989763
Fuck that guy.

Why the FUCK is Canada selling water so cheap to Nestle? Water is going to be the most important resource in the world and we have the most of it, why sell it away to Nestle and America for so cheap, Trudeau you fucking dickhead...

>>140001098
>If you actually care about western culture and civilization you would be familiar with some fairy pagan communist bullshit
Mmhm, we all see how much more successful communism is than capitalism

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>>139989763
>Is water a human right?

No

>>140002512
How cheap are you selling it?

>>140001098
>charter of the forest laid foundations for our legal system
Kek what is roman law

>>140002512
You guys seriously need to vote him out when that opportunity comes around.

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This is a picture of the Mackenzie River drainage area. The river dumps on average 10,000 cubic meters of fresh water a second into the Arctic Ocean effectively unused by humans. That is enough water to meet the drinking, cooking and cleaning water needs of every human.
Fresh water isn't limited, it's just in places that make it hard to use.

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>mfw the dude literally said that poor people should be provided water but if its free it will lead to waste
>leftists STILL sperg out because they cant listen to a complete fucking sentence before virtue signalling

>>140001737
Charcoal filters are nice, but they're not really up to the task.

>>140002763

>Starting in 2016, corporations will be charged $2.25 for every one million litres of water they extract

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/nestl%C3%A9-b-c-water-deal-too-cheap-says-ndp-1.2964709

http://o.canada.com/news/nestle-bottled-water-cost

http://www.theprovince.com/news/Outrage+boils+over+government+plans+sell+groundwater+million+litres/10865416/story.html


It's like giving away gold just because it's cheap right now. Before 2015 Nestle would take our water for FREE. Now it's barely 2.25$ per MILLION LITERS extracted. The most valuable resources for human survival sold away like it's nothing because we got it en masse and need to make money, while forgetting future generations might need it.

>>140002845
Didn't even vote for the dickhead, he needs to go.

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>>139989763
No, and it wasn't last weekend when you made a "1 post by this ID" thread last weekend.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/6bi88QexWaFsMjjk00P1vg/

Thanks to everyone here who posted ITT to keep it bumped to bump limit like a bunch of fucking retarded niggers.

>>140003254


>http://cbc ca/news/canada/british-columbia/nestl%C3%A9-b-c-water-deal-too-cheap-says-ndp-1.2964709
https://archive.is/3FP12

>>140003254
That's our water, leaf. Not yours.

>>140003254
>$2.25 for every one million litres

Why even charge them at all? That's like fucking nothing.

>>140002165
How does the "Govt" get the funds to pay for these things?

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shitty bot/troll/whatever

>>140003588
Shut the fuck up. Both you and Nestle are bleed this country hard out of it's water supply without even paying the appropriate price.

>>140003816
It's crazy right? Here in my province in the 50's our prime minister Duplessis sold 1000 kilograms of iron to the Americans for only 1 cent per each tonne. Our country has a stupid habit of selling shit too cheap.

>>140000538
That's what you think.

Did you believe them?

>>140004904
Your gold is also often competitively priced. I've been using it for birthday presents for quite some time.

>>140000000

>>139995675
So are you drinking from a natural source or are you drinking from the sink, meaning it has been filtered and bring to your house using public infrastructures ?

>>139989763
Privatize oxygen

The answer is simple: water isn't a human right, affordable access to water is.

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>>139989763
>Human Rights

>>140005420
This. An object can't be a right.

>>139991477
What doth life?

>>139989763
I think it's a natural right to be able to hunt for food and drink the water. That being said this is very different from handouts I'm talking about actually shooting etc your own food skinning and butchering it yourself cooking it yourself drinking from the streams that are still pure enough to drink from. Anyone wants to tread on my natural right to hunt in the wild for my survival they can have a nice chat with my AR-15.

But no it's not anyone's right to have water handed out to them free.

>>140005533
>drinking from the streams that are still pure enough to drink from
Your AR-15 has lot of work to do with your local factory owners and farmers

>>139994678
Ultimately nobody has the right to control me because I am well armed and have the tools and knowledge to be able to be completely self sufficient. You Brits on the other hand are very much controlled. Being disarmed is the first step to being controlled

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>>140002165

I don't know about your country, Kiwi, but in the USA our government doesn't actually "provide" roads. They allocate our tax money in huge increments towards road maintenance and then spend about 10% of that money while pocketing the rest in secret. If any citizen tries to repair their road on their own dollar, they will be fined or even jailed for their actions, because in fixing the road privately they've deprived the people in gov't from pocketing more tax dollars.

It's really depressing. And it shouldn't be allowed to happen with anything else.

>>139989763
human rights is so 2015

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http://www.theprovince.com/2013+nestl%C3%A9+tapping+water+free+company+takes+million+litres+annually/10175100/story.html

>>140005735
>while pocketing the rest in secret
You do understand every public cent can be easily tracked and verified by any citizen, right ?

>>139995477
Considering these are the same people who want to take (steal by force) my guns I have no qualms taking their water by force

>>139992822
>>139992822
I like this back and forth

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http://globalnews.ca/news/2896331/is-nestles-pumping-for-bottled-water-shrinking-aberfoyle-aquifer-activists-company-disagree/

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The fucking boomers need to be stopped. Corp fucking assholes. Death upon them kek

>>139992066
>water is a human construct.
kek
we all know water socially constructed by the patriarchy

>>139989763
>Is water a human right?
Depends on who's making the rules.

>>139996912
Cuckgary right? I remember that shithole going under an advisory or something and I was hoping that island of degeneracy and Muslims would be wiped out

water is not a human right but they can take whole communities water supply for free

>>140005903
Yeah like that time it took a congressional investigation (Church) to get the CIA to destroy their records so we wouldn't know what they were up to but forgot about a few financial forms.

Or that $2T Donald Rumsfeld announced he somehow accidentally lost the day before he sent a missile into the Pentagon to destroy the financial records.

>>140002555
>pagan bullshit
>communist

It was literally the document that served as the philosophical foundation for our system of property rights.

>>140002818
Roman law had influences too, but go read some history on English common law and the charter of the forest. I can't be bothered to type up a summary that you won't read

>>140006310
Not my fault if you tolerate that level of corruption in your country.

>>139998317
Just live somewhere where the water is actually clean enough to drink still AKA fuck the city

>>139989763
it is a human right
but your only a human if you're white

>>140001651
Which is what led to the forming of the charter of the forest. Exactly my point on why you shouldn't privatize water. The peasants have a breaking point and telling them you own the water is always past that point

>>139989763
Not in the 3rd world

>>139999205
Because they are retarded

>>139998948
>there is no such thing as rights
I'd disagree but they're different in my opinion than what normies usually think

>you sure as fuck don't get them from the government
Exactly you get them from being armed and capable of defending those rights especially against the government

once they pump the aquifers dry we'll have to buy it from them

>>140006738
Don't need to pump them dry, although that is in the process of happening. Just have to poison them (also happening) so that people can't drink the water even if they have the freedom to pump it out on their own.

>>139999532
>not legal to collect rainwater
That's a great example of the government trampling on your natural rights (rights to survival) the most common natural right a government tramples on is right to self defence

>>140006897
Fucking leaf. Did the wind blow your post away?

Stay put so you can be raked.

>>140006964
yes

You can't own water, water should be free but you can definitely have to pay for people to provide you with safe and clean water through household taps... tap water from an establishment should always be free for customers

>>139989763
Purified water is not a right. You can go to a lake and drink all you want.

>>140002512
The federal government has taken charge of the goddamn water which used to be a provincial right

Fuck "voting Trudeau out" what we need is fucking independence from Canada let the east rot in its own degenerate Jew filth. In sick of being part of this Union that does nothing but screw me over so the east can profit

>>140005862
All the cost is in distribution. Soda pop also costs about nothing to make, you pay to get it on store shelves.

As soon as you're thinking about things through the lens of "human rights" you've cucked yourself intellectually.

>>139989763
Last I checked, I already pay for 100% of the water I consume, and 100% of the water I piss out.

the capitalist dream of commodifying everything.
cause a water shortage problem then sell everyone water

and our elected puppets sit there and watch it happer

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>>140002995
>unused by humans
Maybe not for drinking but BC built the largest hydroelectric dam on the peace river which ends up flowing there

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Water is everywhere, there's free water for taking everywhere in the world. But processing, sterilizing, bottling, packaging and disturbing water is a business. A bottle of water is a product. How anyone can dispute this is insane.
Free water is all around you. But if you drink it enough, it's likely to fucking you. Typhoid's no joke.

>>140004904
>>140005086
Canada is a second world country LARPing as a first world country because a few areas are first world tier

If you ever get out of the resorty areas of the bigger centres we look more second world than first world

>>140006897
Nah once people start dying of thirst in the first world companies like Nestle are going to get fucked.

>>140007855
I quite like it from the few times I've visited, although that's pretty much for camping and things like that so it's mainly friendly dopey people with a /comfy/ bit of hick mixed in.

>>140005686
These streams are up in the hills where it's too rocky to farm and no factory is being built in this area much less up the side of a hill

>>140006354
>It was literally the document that served as the philosophical foundation for our system of property rights.
Sure it was, anon, sure it was, and A Peoples History of the United States should be a standard history textbook

>>140007876
yeah but that won't refill the aquifers
and the profits will be long gone

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>>140006264
>asking the avarage kekistani fagget to kill their own parents

"""rights""" are a spook
However, we as a society have the capacity to supply our citizens with water for consumption, there isn't a very tangible lack of water
Considering that society and civilisation needs humans to work, and humans need water to work, let them drink water
Also, ancaps, if somebody is dying of thirst, they don't give a fuck if they're stealing your water or violating some spooked out NAP, they will fight your for that water

>>140005862
The thing about regulating groundwater is it's going to be used to fuck over the people who have a well to supply their own house with water. Guaran fucking teed that regulation wouldn't apply only to corporations

Fuck that. I don't want the fucking government stealing MORE of my money. I moved out of the fucking city to escape shit like having to pay for the water I use in my home. And also this is why there's no regulation. Lots of people in BC use well water to have running water in their home

>>140007737
Plenty of clean free water for me both in the ground on my property and in the hills. Just don't live in a shithole and you can actually drink free water

>>139989763
Everyone should be free to collect water but if I went to the effort and expense to clean the aids and ebola out of my water then damn right I'm going to charge you for it.

>>140007991
But what part of Canada were you in? And I'm talking in terms of living we pay out the ass for everything 42% of our income goes to taxes that includes "hidden" taxes via products

>>140008444
Ancaps forget a lot about the "law of the jungle" so to speak. When someone has to survive they'll do whatever nescesary to attempt to survive

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>>139992262

Cool pic

>>140008537
I lived of a farm. the city/province let a local company pump all the water outta the ground and everyones well dried up.
I didn't hear about any regulations. he used as much as he wanted

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>>139991712
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>>139989763
water war when ?

>>139989763
The pipes that carry it to your house are not a human right. If you don't want to be part of the system then go find your own water.

But as all of sane mind know, a right is something that a government may not bar you from, not something a government must provide you with.

the true believers in ideology
when you allow anything for business at the expense of everyone else.

Of course the jews don't want the goyim to drink water at an affordable price. They need profits these hooked nosed demons that americans love. Every day you are not working to get the jews into the oven, you are passively allowing for these things to happen to your future kids and future grand kids.

>>140009857
You should definitely google what a "social contract" actually is.

>>139989763
yes it is
If nigger ''gov'' can't provide water to their citizen its their fucking problem
ITALIA AGLI ITALIANI

>>140009360
Thing about government regulation in Canada is they never actually go after the damn corporations just slap them on the wrist and then screw over the average family with them

>>139989763
Better to keep it it i in the hands of citizens than big government. Enjoy your flouride, xeno estrogens, and astrazine run off cucks.

>>140009857
Except the government bars us from more and more things each day even stuff we were supposed to have the right to

>>139994084
lmfao

>>139989763

Is nestle CEO jewish ? If he is your opinions are invalid and his will be done.

>>140009908

I sense hostility.
Mr. "Do you know how many rapes we get".

>>139991906
>it's illegal in many places in the US to collect rain water.
I don't wanna think all of you are idiots, so why the fuck is illegal to collect something free like rain water?

>>140012673
Part of the UN plan to own the water. The UN also claims to own all "navigable waterways" in the US, which they define to include things like muddy puddles after a rainfall.

>>139989763
Natural resources should never be privatized

>>140012673
BTW, if you want to take it up a notch, part of Obamacare was the shift toward globalized medical records wherein you have a "water footprint" just like you have a "carbon footprint" that goes in to the cost analysis that determines what kind of medical care you get or if you're not worth keeping alive at all anymore.

Look up the "virtual man" project from France some years ago, which aimed to better model the water allocation that a human should be alloted.

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>>140012788
Ok, that's about the water on the ground, but even this would be illegal?

>>140013505
In some jursidictions, yes. Crazy, right? You'd think people would be up in arms about stuff like that but actually most people really are goyim (cattle slaves).

>>140012673
Because in the US, local governments sell purified water back to you. So if you're collecting rainwater in rain barrels and using that to irrigate your garden/yard, then you're stealing from the local government by not buying their water.

>>140013505
>>140013584
It's fucking crazy. Luckily, most of these backwards laws come from local governments, and it's fairly easy to get elected and change local law.

>>140014050
The UN will typically have at least one operative on any city council worth a damn. They get really pissed off if you go down to one of their meeting and point out who it is in public.

>>139989763
Water is a matter of national security therfore in libertarian country should bemonitored and protected by the army.

>>140012673
probably a state where water was privatized.

if you didn't collect the water it would have flowed into a stream where the rightful owner at the treatment plant could have collected it and sold it to you

>>140014050
That's the same system they used to take over education, which similarly is allegedly meant to be controlled by a local school board.

You'd also want to find out where your local public-private cooperative is that's running your city's planning. These are also UN operations.

>>140014320
It's why it's a good idea to be active in local politics. Shitposting on /pol/ all day will get you nowhere, whereas your average anon can rabblerouse enough to get shit done locally.

>>139992029
>>139991906
>>139992449
>>140012673
>>140013971
All wrong.

It's illegal because farmers in the US buy up "water rights" to groundwater in the area, groundwater that's directly connected to rivers and streams, which themselves are replenished by runoff and infiltration from rain.

There are actually high-profile legal battles going on between states right now because farmers in some states use so much groundwater that the water level in streams and rivers drops, leaving less water for states downstream.

t. civil engineer

>>140014476
And there are even a handful of amazing people out there who know what they're doing and want to help other individuals out with how to do what works. That's there really is a danger of being arrested when you try to rabble-rouse effectively.

>>139998113
They did this in the US state of Maryland. It's why this otherwise reliably Democrat state has a Republican governor.

>>140015455
meanwhile republicans sold that part of the sky that the rain fall from

>>140015947
You're always such a sensible person up until you start triggering out.

>>139994678
kys christcuck